Ripoff Reports

I was at 7 11 on Ontario. Along comes 5'3' petit Ashley, she is a brunette Polish Irish girl 25 yrs old. We drive around the corner and start a date on Ontario then she says we got to move a bs excuse, a ploy to jump out that canniving *** She jacks me off while we look for another spot I asked her if she was comfortable at that spot she said she was. She agreed to 25 minutes on the clock for 30 bucks. I originally only wanted to do $20 for fifteen minutes but she insisted she needed $30. So her being up tight at that first spot we move and parked across the park on Tioga, she then said she had to pee and she jumped. So I got ripped of for most of my money I got about 4 or 5 minutes of a bad hand job fucken *** beware of her.

How dumb do these scammers have to be? Don't they realize most mongers watch a lot of porn also? This chick actually thinks she's Valentina Nappi. LOL!

[URL]https://cherry-hill.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/good-blowjoblet-yourself-be-fu/658730126787[/URL]

[QUOTE=Lance547;5210749]Right now the best bang for your donation is to pick up a SW and head to a motel. I know a SW that offered an overnight for next to nothing just so they could get away and rest up in a safe clean incall. We get along like old friends but I did have a rapport built up already.

The escorts online now are just horrible. Besides the lack of talent online, they're not friendly anymore, too business like, they have too many rules, snooty additudes, and donations have gone up. SW's put online escorts to shame.

As far as overall talent, I still believe NE Philly and S Jersey is where all the talent is, but my issue is that nearly every girl that gets into the game is a drug addict. That's a problem because eventually they will die or get clean and either way you will never see them again. Look at all the guys over here who love Sydney. When clean we don't exist to her, but when she's needs her fix she's available, but if she stays on that road it will eventually kill her.

I got my sights set on Mexico now. Woman over there are 1000 x hotter and work to support their families. Don't know why American girls don't see sex work as a viable option to support themselves other then stripping.[/QUOTE]Where in Mexico is that? Great shoes!

[QUOTE=Merge1;5263306]Where in Mexico is that? Great shoes![/QUOTE]Tijuana. You can walk in from California.

[QUOTE=Lance547;5210749].....Don't know why American girls don't see sex work as a viable option to support themselves other then stripping.[/QUOTE]I think it's because they don't see a clear, safe path to doing it. Especially after Backpage bit the dust. The alternatives are filled with so much skank that many decent, potential providers don't see how these sites would work for them. I suppose there are ways to make some sites work for a newcomer who wants to safely try this business. They could learn a lot on this site, for example, and make some safe contacts for some experimenting to see what works for them. Someone needs to write "Sexwork for Dummies, or something.

[QUOTE=Merge1;5269419]I think it's because they don't see a clear, safe path to doing it. Especially after Backpage bit the dust. The alternatives are filled with so much skank that many decent, potential providers don't see how these sites would work for them. I suppose there are ways to make some sites work for a newcomer who wants to safely try this business. They could learn a lot on this site, for example, and make some safe contacts for some experimenting to see what works for them. Someone needs to write "Sexwork for Dummies, or something.[/QUOTE]There are reddits and social media groups for sex workers where women ask questions and share business / operating practices of their chosen facet of sex work. Although a lot of the posts are also complaining and putting down their clients.

Stole $20 from me after I fronted her for dope she wanted more. We get to spot to start the car date then she says she won't do it without a cig. She had money for 2 loosie so reluctantly and in disbelief that she couldn't wait 15 min for a cigarette, I drive all the way back to k and a and wait for her to get a loosie. She left her stuff in the car I me her do that. Then when she takes too long I pull away. I got 2 iphones that I should have kept because she lured me back after 2 hrs of begging me that her mother was going to be really upset that she lost her phone but she promised to do the date. She never had any intention of doing any date. I gave he the stuff back after she got back in my car then She ran out of the car because she insisted I front her more money. I said we had to do the first that I paid for first she bolted and I should have kept the phones she likely stole both of them. Don't pick up and spread the word she is POS and RIPOFF.

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[QUOTE=Gator145;5314358]Congratulations on graduating from the school of honest hookers. You got yourself a $20.00 education. Shame you needed to learn the hard way. You got exactly what you paid for. You paid for nothing and got nothing. You found where to post your report, just should have read some of the other posts here before wagging your dick all over the Ave. You could have found a dozen reasons why you never pay upfront.

Did you really think once you parted with your cash she was going to give you what you wanted? I mean seriously? Why would she? She got what she wanted and had the balls to ask you for more before she bounced.

I hate being the bearer of bad news but she's laughing and slapping her thigh while hitting the crack pipe on your $20 telling everyone how stupid you are and they are laughing at you too. Believe me, she is telling other girls what an easy mark you are.

I hope you have learned your lesson. Thankfully it didn't cost you a lot more. It could have been worse. We all make mistakes.

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If you decide to pay upfront again be sure to have plenty of lube with you so it doesn't hurt so bad when she shoves it in balls deep. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Gator. A hilarious but unfortunately truthful diatribe. Thanks for preaching!

LD.

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If you decide to pay upfront again be sure to have plenty of lube with you so it doesn't hurt so bad when she shoves it in balls deep. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]I don't know why you are being so HARSH on this Snowflake, he's just doing the "cancel culture" thing as if that would do him some good. LOL! [I]humour intended[/I].

[U]The rest of this is aimed at OP and other lurkers & newbie hobbyists[/U]

What most dudes don't get is that, as Gator pointed out, dudes who do stuff like this now have "sucker" tattooed on their forehead and the next girl is going to try some sh*t with him. Yes, girls talk, yes they share their conquests, yes these girls would rather steal than work. This is about control and if dudes give up that control, then they should expect the worst. Note that one CAN be polite, kind and respectful all while maintaining control. No need to be a jerk. But you gots the money, so you gots the power.

But always amazed at how many dudes refuse "book learning" and instead opt for these bad experiences as ways to learn. Gosh even with all of the book learning the streets are going to teach you a lesson or two. So why take the "School of Hard Knocks" for 10 lessons, rather than just two, when one can learn from others? Yeah, media makes mongering look easy, but consistently safe mongering is a skill and is anything but easy.

BUT WAIT! Oh, I forgot! History is boring! And anything you want to know is available IMMEDIATELY online just for asking. Sigh.

So here is how to learn "how to".

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=MongeringRules[/URL]

There are 3 posts there. Read all 3. Then read the 1st & 3rd post again. Then rinse and repeat. THEN every time you want to go out looking for pussy read them again 3 times. Repeat until you have "the rules" down cold! You have to KNOW this stuff, have it be second nature. The streets are watching. When stuff happens is no time to stop and try to recall 'the rules', by then the streets will have taken you.

Look the point is that the USASG is a great resource of learning & info. If you just want to use it like an instantaneous ASK place you'll be flying blind. You don't know what you don't know. But set aside fears and ego and come here and ask for help on "how to" and many experienced dudes will be glad to help you out. The resources are here. Will you use them? The tools are available. Will you pick them up?

Good luck!

I've met exactly one girl in 20+ years that I could front some money and get "paid back" eventually. Better to assume that they will try to rob you, hide your shit, and know that you were right when they steal all the change and cigarette butts from the ashtray.

I'll give a girl enough to grab a soda or a pack of condoms, but no more. If she decides to bounce, I'm out $5 and prob better off without her.

Hide your wallet and all the cash you aren't prepared to lose. I actually have a biometric safe in the truck from when I used to carry a sidearm. Under the drivers floor mat works well too.

Never ever pay for anything up front. EVER.

Bella is a cute girl with dirty blond hair she is in her late 20's and she is a rip off. I paid her then we start a date and after one car passes she plays the paranoid card and stops doing the date she's a piece of shit.

I picked her up on the corner of Venango and Kensington. She used to be under the bridge by Lehigh an Kensington but I haven't seen her there in some time. So probably better to not deal with her.

[QUOTE=JStokes;5434917]Bella is a cute girl with dirty blond hair she is in her late 20's and she is a rip off. I paid her then we start a date and after one car passes she plays the paranoid card and stops doing the date she's a piece of shit.

I picked her up on the corner of Venango and Kensington. She used to be under the bridge by Lehigh an Kensington but I haven't seen her there in some time. So probably better to not deal with her.[/QUOTE]Sorry about your bad experience! Stuff like that has happened to me before so you are not alone. I fixed it by never paying up front. I'll show the girl I have the money, but never give it to her until she punches out on the time clock. Sometimes I lay it out, but where she can't reach it with wandering hands while doing her employee thing. But those who refuse and demand upfront money get kicked out pronto! Those are the scammers.

But appreciate you posting the warning for others! Not many are brave to do that! Kudos!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5435085]Sorry about your bad experience! Stuff like that has happened to me before so you are not alone. I fixed it by never paying up front. I'll show the girl I have the money, but never give it to her until she punches out on the time clock. Sometimes I lay it out, but where she can't reach it with wandering hands while doing her employee thing. But those who refuse and demand upfront money get kicked out pronto! Those are the scammers.

But appreciate you posting the warning for others! Not many are brave to do that! Kudos![/QUOTE]I've known Izzy for a lot of years. She used to be an employee at Huntingdon back in its heyday. She was high on everyone's list of desirables. People tripped over each other just to get her in their car.

Her BF used to run one of the blocks around Somerset area. She got cleaned up a few years back and moved away. Told me she had gone down South. For a good while she was looking great. Top shelf.

For the last year or so I have noticed her back in the game. Seems to be sliding fast.

I haven't asked but I get the impression they are no longer together. Back when they was she was always spotless. Hair and nails always done. Clothes clean and neat. Now she is showing signs of the streets catching up to her. Back then she would never be seen publicly wasted. Now doesn't seem to matter much to her anymore.

Most recently I have noticed she had moved from Somerset to the Hookah Lounge at Lehigh. That area is slowly coming back to the life it had 2 years ago. Camps are popping up and. Starting to resemble the drug bazaar it has always been.

I'm surprised JStokes found her around Venango. That is way off the beaten path for her. Cause her preferred hideaway is Tusculum area. Likes the ambience of being near Rocky Balboas movie home.

Shampoo offers some good advice when dealing with those that may have different motives than the rest of us. I've also said it before and I bears repeating. Never pay up front. I don't care if she comes with a Vatican recommendation. It doesn't matter how good a girl is or how impeccable the reputation. The drugs take over all their sensibilities.

Izzy has always been very low key. This report just says she went another rung down the ladder.

It's unclear by the JStokes report if something else didn't pan out the way it should. Possibly she was on Meth which can bring with the high a sense of paranoia. Maybe a location change could have fixed that. Hindsight has always been 20/20.

What is very clear is this. She's an addict. Addicts have but one goal. That goal is not to please us. Pleasing us falls just about to the bottom of the list. It hinges upon their pleasure. How much they can get for doing as little as possible. Keep in mind she didn't wake up and say to herself this is a good day to suck Wally's willie and make him happy. She and others like her woke up and said Awww shit I got to get drugs somehow or I'm going to be sick as fuck. Reality.

It may not be a pleasant reality. Never the less it is reality.

There's a lot to be learned from these situations. These girls, no matter what they tell us, do not love or care about any of us. Many probably border on hating us. No matter what they say to our face it's what they say behind our back that really sets the tone. They will tell you to your face what ever you want to hear if it puts them that much closer to the next blue bag. Repeat after me Manipulation.

They don't view any of us as a White Knight that saves them from their next fight with withdrawal. They view us as a necessary evil to a game, they found out to late, they really don't want to be in. Anybody that doesn't understand that is a fool waiting to be had.

Your money is your control. Part with your funds and you place control right where she wants it. In her world. Don't ever be fool enough to think when your funds change hands you still maintain any amount of control. Doesn't work that way.

JStokes, Its a shame you didn't get what you hoped for. A word of unasked for advice.

You know better than any of us what transpired. At some point your guard went down. She pounced on that chance to take advantage of you. Maybe you relaxed or gave her some signal that said to her easy mark. When she got that sign she went for it.

Replay what happened with Izzy. Go over in your head what might have changed the outcome to a more desirable ending. What is done is done. If you learn from a bad experience, it can make it a lot easier to deal with. That way there won't be a next time. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;5436214] I've also said it before and I bears repeating. Never pay up front. [b] I don't care if she comes with a Vatican recommendation.[/b] It doesn't matter how good a girl is or how impeccable the reputation. The drugs take over all their sensibilities.

[/QUOTE]Another classic line from the Gator, to go with wise advice! Take heed Grasshoppers.