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[QUOTE=NdayGuy;1978527]BP continues to be dangerous. Anyone see the ad associated with this sting or have the phone number for our BLACK LIST.

[URL]http://www.whio.com/news/news/local/undercover-cop-busts-man-soliciting-sex/nckJX/[/URL][/QUOTE]The article indicates that when the guy met the undercover detective at the hotel, he was "ambushed by five other officers and placed under arrest." Wow, this guy must have been a really dangerous criminal. Another great job by DPD of wasting resources.

Also would be nice to know what hotel, DPD used for this bust.

[QUOTE=NdayGuy;1978527]BP continues to be dangerous. Anyone see the ad associated with this sting or have the phone number for our BLACK LIST.

[URL]http://www.whio.com/news/news/local/undercover-cop-busts-man-soliciting-sex/nckJX/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hello Brothers. This gentleman has broke every rule of mongering. By know means am I an expert but here are my tips on dealing with a BP provider when contacting them by phone:

1. Are you anyway affiliated with law enforcement.

2. Are you independent or do you have a pimp.

3. What area are you located in.

4. Are you working out of your home or a hotel.

5. Have you been busy today.

The main reason I ask question #5 is because if there is a lot of traffic coming and going you may want to look else where. Whether she tells the truth who knows.

When you arrive at the hotel:

1. Make sure you get there early to check out the scene.

2. Always park in the back.

3. Call the provider and let her know you have arrived.

Some providers will actually come and meet you. If a provider ask you for a pic or what are you driving, this is likely some type of trap, just hang up the damn phone and move forward. You are the one asking the questions. Next time you do a hotel stay keep your hotel room key an put it in your monger bag, this is a decoy for when you are visiting a provider. Hotel management will think you are a staying there.

I hope this helps everyone. If I have missed something please fill free to ad.

Be safe.

Vinny.

Just saw this posted a few minutes ago on DDN site.

[URL]http://www.daytondailynews.com/gallery/news/photos/prostitution-sting-nets-8-arrests/gnGg/[/URL]#1874017.

LEO gone wild so glad we have solved violent crime issues and can focus on people wanting and providing sex. I'll sleep better tonight.

[URL]http://www.daytondailynews.com/gallery/news/photos/12-arrested-in-prostitution-sting/ghsY/[/URL]#1670249.

[QUOTE=Vinny1029;1978613]Hello Brothers. This gentleman has broke every rule of mongering. By know means am I an expert but here are my tips on dealing with a BP provider when contacting them by phone:

1. Are you anyway affiliated with law enforcement.

2. Are you independent or do you have a pimp.

3. What area are you located in.

4. Are you working out of your home or a hotel.

5. Have you been busy today.

The main reason I ask question #5 is because if there is a lot of traffic coming and going you may want to look else where. Whether she tells the truth who knows.

When you arrive at the hotel:

1. Make sure you get there early to check out the scene.

2. Always park in the back.

3. Call the provider and let her know you have arrived.

Some providers will actually come and meet you. If a provider ask you for a pic or what are you driving, this is likely some type of trap, just hang up the damn phone and move forward. You are the one asking the questions. Next time you do a hotel stay keep your hotel room key an put it in your monger bag, this is a decoy for when you are visiting a provider. Hotel management will think you are a staying there.

I hope this helps everyone. If I have missed something please fill free to ad.

Be safe.

Vinny.[/QUOTE]Brother Vinnie does make some valid points, but law enforcement it's in no way, shape or form required to tell you that they are, indeed, law enforcement. They are in fact trained to lie to you in order to get a confession, or a simple collar.

[QUOTE=Sgdddy;1978677]LEO gone wild so glad we have solved violent crime issues and can focus on people wanting and providing sex. I'll sleep better tonight.

[URL]http://www.daytondailynews.com/gallery/news/photos/12-arrested-in-prostitution-sting/ghsY/[/URL]#1670249.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sgdddy;1978670]Just saw this posted a few minutes ago on DDN site.

[URL]http://www.daytondailynews.com/gallery/news/photos/prostitution-sting-nets-8-arrests/gnGg/[/URL]#1874017.[/QUOTE]These mugshot galleries you posted are from years ago. The 12 person sting is from Oct 2011 and the other is from Apr 2009.

[QUOTE=Cartog;1978999]These mugshot galleries you posted are from years ago. The 12 person sting is from Oct 2011 and the other is from Apr 2009.[/QUOTE]Oh crap...sorry about the confusion. Maybe if ADMIN sees my post we can delete this. I got curious about the earlier post I saw and did a search on 'prostitution stings in Dayton'...and these items popped up in the search results. For whatever reason, thought that were from today.

Thanks for the correction. And apologies again!

Re: The guy that was busted offering $80 for sex. I have never mentioned money or sex when dealing with a SP. If the ad mentions how much it is, that is how much I bring. I try try to never give it to them until after.

I never say what I expect, I am usually not disappointed. I know lots of guys like to make sure they are going to get some exact service. But I feel it is better to NEVER discuss services, it just seems safer to me. If there is something I really want, I would bring it up after for next time. Because at this point I KNOW they aren't LE.

This is just my opinion, and I could maybe negotiate a better rate, or weed out someone who is not compatible, but for me I prefer the safer method. I also only go to previously reviewed SP.

[QUOTE=BigDaddyHappy;1978727]Brother Vinnie does make some valid points, but law enforcement it's in no way, shape or form required to tell you that they are, indeed, law enforcement. They are in fact trained to lie to you in order to get a confession, or a simple collar.[/QUOTE]LE may not lie on this question as a rule.

1. Are you anyway affiliated with law enforcement.

It is good idea you ask this question in text before you decide to meet.

G2.

[QUOTE=CBuilder;1979209]Re: The guy that was busted offering $80 for sex. I have never mentioned money or sex when dealing with a SP. If the ad mentions how much it is, that is how much I bring. I try try to never give it to them until after.

I never say what I expect, I am usually not disappointed. I know lots of guys like to make sure they are going to get some exact service. But I feel it is better to NEVER discuss services, it just seems safer to me. If there is something I really want, I would bring it up after for next time. Because at this point I KNOW they aren't LE.

This is just my opinion, and I could maybe negotiate a better rate, or weed out someone who is not compatible, but for me I prefer the safer method. I also only go to previously reviewed SP.[/QUOTE]I do the exact same thing. Why try to save 10 or 20 bucks for a lower rate it only pisses them off and the service becomes substandard. I never bring my wallet or phone with me to the room, only the cash that I plan to spend.

[QUOTE=CBuilder;1979209]Re: The guy that was busted offering $80 for sex. I have never mentioned money or sex when dealing with a SP. If the ad mentions how much it is, that is how much I bring. I try try to never give it to them until after.

I never say what I expect, I am usually not disappointed. I know lots of guys like to make sure they are going to get some exact service. But I feel it is better to NEVER discuss services, it just seems safer to me. If there is something I really want, I would bring it up after for next time. Because at this point I KNOW they aren't LE.

This is just my opinion, and I could maybe negotiate a better rate, or weed out someone who is not compatible, but for me I prefer the safer method. I also only go to previously reviewed SP.[/QUOTE]I have a tip to add have a spare key for your car and hide it in a magnetic box under car or duct tape it anywhere or and have one in the glove box they will grap your keys away from you by snatching your keys out of the ignition if your in a bad part of town and as always stay alert at all time observing your surroundings all the time.

Someone made a good suggestion many months ago. If you are worried about keys being pulled from the ignition, simply zip tie them to the steering column ahead of time and cut them free afterwards, pretty cheap insurance.

[QUOTE=Bdirect;1979521]I have a tip to add have a spare key for your car and hide it in a magnetic box under car or duct tape it anywhere or and have one in the glove box they will grap your keys away from you by snatching your keys out of the ignition if your in a bad part of town and as always stay alert at all time observing your surroundings all the time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie18;1979721]Someone made a good suggestion many months ago. If you are worried about keys being pulled from the ignition, simply zip tie them to the steering column ahead of time and cut them free afterwards, pretty cheap insurance.[/QUOTE]I don't get it. Are you leaving your car with a key hanging from steering? You mean a spare key?

Isn't it inviting a guy who just saw it as he passes by then decide to break your window and steal your car?

G2.

I think this was only suggested if on a car date. If you are parked and she decides to try to take your keys, sets you up for robbery or whatever, she will have a difficult time getting away with your key. As for going in to meet a provider, yes it is a good idea to leave a spare key hidden and quickly accessible on the outside of the vehicle. Leaving your phone, extra keys, wallet and anything else you would not want to be parted with locked inside the vehicle should be common sense.

[QUOTE=Goodson2000;1979750]I don't get it. Are you leaving your car with a key hanging from steering? You mean a spare key?

Isn't it inviting a guy who just saw it as he passes by then decide to break your window and steal your car?

G2.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie18;1980114]I think this was only suggested if on a car date. If you are parked and she decides to try to take your keys, sets you up for robbery or whatever, she will have a difficult time getting away with your key. As for going in to meet a provider, yes it is a good idea to leave a spare key hidden and quickly accessible on the outside of the vehicle. Leaving your phone, extra keys, wallet and anything else you would not want to be parted with locked inside the vehicle should be common sense.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarification but still not sure. Because of possibility of take-key situation by a provider in your passenger seat, zip tie your key ring every time? Is it practical? I also wonder if you see something outside, like somebody is just approaching to your way, you can't start your car quick. If the zip tie is long enough to start engine as it is still tied, yes you can start engine but you can't steer your car, right?

I have been through this hobby but encountered only once a provider tried to do something with my car key. To have a spare key on your left pocket isn't good enough?

G2.