General Reports

[QUOTE=Forth Ryte] On the K you can get anything you want for the price of, well, how do we put this? You can fill their tank for less than it costs to fill your tank these days. In fact, it seems you can about name your own price (within reason).

– Forth Ryte[/QUOTE]I am not familiar with mongering in either NYC or AC. I can tell you the reason things are so cheap in Philly. The price of crack has dropped to around 5 a rock and H is also around 10 a shot. Like you I have been in situations where 10 has gotten me everything I could ask for. As for the dress, the only SW that dress like SW in Philly are usually dudes in drag or naive LE.

Yep, the only place I've come across nowadays that offers the show you used to get in NYC and AC is around the K-street area in DC (admittedly it's been a while..).

When I first saw it it freaked me out because it was like within walking distance of the goddam white house. Everyone knew what was going on it was so public, LE would occasionally half-heartedly flush out a congested street and chase the 'rats' away by turning on their lights and sirens once an hour or so just to disperse everyone but they wouldnt hang about, they would leave and everything would just start back up again.

Those shows were good but they were propper pimp and ho shows, which generally meant rushed and bitchy providers.

The 'K' with it's 'street casual' style makes it tricky to figure out who's working and who's a civilian most time, especially if you are new and dont know any of the girls but that has it's pluses and minuses.

I used to love NYC but it just got to be crazy expensive, and you could only find 'true gratification' by venturing into the 'underground' but that also got expensive (whole lotta fun though) and eventually chased out of town and unreliable. A couple years ago it was easier and cheaper to get a square chick than a working girl. Alas, this game never stays the same.

Philly had a decent underground scene for a short while a few years back but I think that has also petered out...

Man will someone bring back the 'hotel parties', the 'blow and jerk you bars' (who remembers studio5 or paid a visit to the 'red door'?), the 'stinky finger' strip club where you could take your dick out and get a wonderfully grimey couch dance'...alas for the days of yore..

[QUOTE=Forth Ryte]After another visit to “the K”, I want to share my observations.

It was a nice Sunday afternoon. The weather was no longer summery but not cold yet either. I drove up and down the strip for hours from noonish till after dark. Looking, observing. I saw easily two dozen SWs in total. Some I saw only once, many others were out for a long time or were out a few times over the course of the afternoon.

The K is a stroll unlike the others I have visited.

These were all younger white girls. Very few were 30 or older. Mostly they were average looking with just a few skanks here and there. No body piercing was evident and no tattoos either except on one. A few were really cute young things (no kids, mind you, but youthful). There were SWs out at all hours that I was there although there were more after dusk. If you know how to spot an SW, you know what I mean that they were all passively available. Only one or two actively waved or spoke to me before I stopped and rolled down my window. On the K, it seemed to me that every one I talked to was pleasant. They were here and there but almost never more than two together. No obvious pimps around.

Now here is what struck me. I also know NYC and Atlantic City. There are major differences in how they dress and act. On the K they are in street clothes. No miniskirts, no hot pants, no “fuck me” boots. Only one or two were in tight jeans. Many wore sweat pants and sweat shirts.

In NYC (where there is no longer any real stroll left) back in the days when they were out there, the SWs often clustered together, pimps hug out within a few feet, they were mostly BSWs and almost everyone was dressed as an obvious hooker. Many were dolled up and drop dead gorgeous. There was never any doubt what they were up to on the street. They not only dressed the part, but they were actively waving, hailing, even blocking traffic. Many showed so much skin that it was like a strip show just to drive those strolls.
In AC, (again, in the past year, the AC stroll has all but disappeared) they used to cluster and dressed the part, there were at least equally as many WSWs as BSWs but no waving or stopping traffic. They just made themselves very obvious and available.

Now, price is another major difference.
In NYC, they asked more than I’d spend for dinner with drinks in a high-end restaurant. And they were nasty to boot. Few were affordable except in the outer boros where the less attractive ones hung out.
I’m not as familiar with AC prices, but I can tell you they were very negotiable. On the K you can get anything you want for the price of, well, how do we put this? You can fill their tank for less than it costs to fill your tank these days. In fact, it seems you can about name your own price (within reason).

So here's the UP-side. The K is still a very active stroll with a lot of variety and bargain basement pricing with WSWs who do not seems like they hate you. But, to me, the DOWN-side is that it doesn’t LOOK like a stroll. DAMN!! I miss the strip shows that used to be on the streets of NYC and AC. But, then, maybe that is why NYC and AC are gone. If its obvious, it gets attention and gets swept away. Whereas you can drive the K for hours and, if you don’t know what you are looking at, you won’t even see it.

– Forth Ryte[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Iorek] ....snip...
, the 'stinky finger' strip club where you could take your dick out and get a wonderfully grimey couch dance'...alas for the days of yore..[/QUOTE]
Try Cheeks, the tents are pretty much like that.

[QUOTE=ClitLicker]Try Cheeks, the tents are pretty much like that.[/QUOTE]

Cheeks?? Please elaborate, I've never heard of 'Cheeks' or am I missing something?

[QUOTE=Iorek]Cheeks?? Please elaborate, I've never heard of 'Cheeks' or am I missing something?[/QUOTE]

Cheeks is a club in NJ, on route 38, just past 206. It is a bit of a hike but it is ok. Similar to the playhouse lots of brazilian women there.

[QUOTE=Sam Iam]Cheeks is a club in NJ, on route 38, just past 206. It is a bit of a hike but it is ok. Similar to the playhouse lots of brazilian women there.[/QUOTE]
Correct mostly, but they took the cameras out of the tents so it's back to more like PH was 5 yrs ago.

Visited the K tuesday night on and off from around 5:30 to 9:00.
There was not much activity, either way. I did make a visit to penns port & cheerleaders during the strech. The 2d time ever in penns port. There was some nice pussy in there dancing up close. A very laid back atmosphere.
Back to the K when I spotted the fairly new girl with the wire rim glasses.
Blond and skinny. I saw her a couple of times before, but I passed. She was across from the bull dealer when she got in. Originally wanted 40,then down to 35. Finally she grumpbled 30 is ok. She looked skanky & smelly up close in the car. She wanted something from me to prove I wasn't a cop and asked for .25 cents? I gave that to her but I was not feeling it with her.

I drove around the block and dropped her off and told her I just wasn't comfortable with her and told her here is another .25 cents and get out. I did notice an LE car pull up to her as soon as she got out. I don't know if LE was following me or her but the girl was skanky and I was glad to get rid of her.

She told me her name was Tracey and you see her out at night.

One last cruise before the way home and I ran into Stephanie and off to the Patio. Dependable and 1 out of 2 wasn't bad.

[QUOTE=ClitLicker]Correct mostly, but they took the cameras out of the tents so it's back to more like PH was 5 yrs ago.[/QUOTE]

I haerd this place was busted and some awful pics in papers of the girls mostly Brazilians. Anyone hear of this?

[QUOTE=Sam Iam]I haerd this place was busted and some awful pics in papers of the girls mostly Brazilians. Anyone hear of this?[/QUOTE]
I saw that on SCL with a list of names (real, not club) and ages. All 6 were Br - 1 legal and 5 illegal - and charged with prostitution. Wasn't totally clear if they were to be turned over to ICE and shipped out but most likely they will. The clb is still open and going by the last 2 times this happened mileage will be down for unknown customers for a while, but will still be better than most other places. In a couple of weeks to a month it should be back to normal, especially with x-mas coming and the need of more cash.

[QUOTE=Guthrie]
Back to the K when I spotted the fairly new girl with the wire rim glasses.
Blond and skinny. I saw her a couple of times before, but I passed. She was across from the bull dealer when she got in. Originally wanted 40,then down to 35. Finally she grumpbled 30 is ok. She looked skanky & smelly up close in the car. She wanted something from me to prove I wasn't a cop and asked for .25 cents? I gave that to her but I was not feeling it with her.

I drove around the block and dropped her off and told her I just wasn't comfortable with her and told her here is another .25 cents and get out. I did notice an LE car pull up to her as soon as she got out. I don't know if LE was following me or her but the girl was skanky and I was glad to get rid of her.

She told me her name was Tracey and you see her out at night.[/QUOTE]


I had a similar situation with Tracey myself. By the way she is on of Abdul's girls. Saw her walking and when she went in the 7-11 at E&T, I waited outside.

Here's a wuick play by play:
Me: Hey what's up
Her: You dating
Me: You go to the Patio
Her: sure
Me: how bout fs
Her: can we talk in the car
Me: before we get in the car and waste each others time do you
shave or are you hairy. Cause if you hairy I'm not interested and
I don't want to waste my time or yours.
Her: I'd rather not say anything outside
Me: OK lets go

Now for in the car..

Her: how much do you want to spend
Me: how about 50
Her: I usually get between 60-300
Me: well the 60 is a bit more realistic if you give great service
Her:OK
Me: You never answer my question, are you hairy or shaved
Her: I don't like to talk about things like that, you'll find out when I
take my clothes of.

This banter went back and forth as I started to head back to the 7-11. Also during this time I started noticing she didn't really smell that great and really wanted to end this ordeal.

Me: OK, here's the deal, we are at a red light and you either tell me if you
shave or get out, if we get back to the Patio and you have a jungle I'm
leaving you there with no money. If feel this is a simple question and if
you can't answer you need to get out.
Her: Well I used to shave but haven't for a few months and it is quite hairy.
Me: Why didn't you tell me this before, I asked you point blank before getting
in the car and made my intentions clear to you.
Her: Could you give me 20 for my time that you wasted.
Me: Listen you stupid moron, I think it was you who wasted my time by
playing games, so you need to just get out.
Her: Well you have to give me something before I get out.
Me: The light is going to change green soon. You can either get out now,
or I'm going to turn right down that little street and throw you out.

At this point I started turning the corner and she said OK, just let me out, but could you give me a few buck anyway. When I said no she counter offered all the was down to 25 cents. Finally I told her to just shut up and get out.

Davey, sorry to hear about your encounter at the patio. Ive only been there once a few years ago but it was dead. I can imagine LE staking the place out.

Of note, I met up with these 2 not to long ago, on the ave. Well rather met one who called in a friend. Anyway, went to the Days Inn which is SW friendly but expensive for a dive motel in my opinion. Anyway, the one called someone for supplies and met him downstairs pretty quickly. Makes me wonder if a couple are staked out by the seedy motels in the area.

Question for anyone, What about the Hub Motel past cottman and on the blvd. I remember once seeing to SW talking to a cop outside of it during the day. I drive by it a lot but never see anything going in or out.

Guys, be careful out there. Be patient and careful of your surroundings. LE in philly is pretty obvious, unlike NY, I do not think there is much of an undercover operation here and there cars are obvious enough but still be careful, you can easily get confortable. Also watch for those community watch smucks, you park in front of there house, they will call LE in a heart beat. They likely wont get there till after your done, but avoid the trouble all together. And remember, doesnt matter what the SW has on her body, but if she decides to dump it on your floor, its on you.

[QUOTE=ThePerson]Davey, sorry to hear about your encounter at the patio. Ive only been there once a few years ago but it was dead. I can imagine LE staking the place out.

Of note, I met up with these 2 not to long ago, on the ave. Well rather met one who called in a friend. Anyway, went to the Days Inn which is SW friendly but expensive for a dive motel in my opinion. Anyway, the one called someone for supplies and met him downstairs pretty quickly. Makes me wonder if a couple are staked out by the seedy motels in the area.

Question for anyone, What about the Hub Motel past cottman and on the blvd. I remember once seeing to SW talking to a cop outside of it during the day. I drive by it a lot but never see anything going in or out.

Guys, be careful out there. Be patient and careful of your surroundings. LE in philly is pretty obvious, unlike NY, I do not think there is much of an undercover operation here and there cars are obvious enough but still be careful, you can easily get confortable. Also watch for those community watch smucks, you park in front of there house, they will call LE in a heart beat. They likely wont get there till after your done, but avoid the trouble all together. And remember, doesnt matter what the SW has on her body, but if she decides to dump it on your floor, its on you.[/QUOTE]

The hub was overpriced 7 years ago and it was a dump there are better places for the money. Unless you got a gal for the night the 1 hour motels are the best. I wouldn't spend the night at the Hub if they paid me.

[QUOTE=ThePerson]Davey, sorry to hear about your encounter at the patio. Ive only been there once a few years ago but it was dead. I can imagine LE staking the place out.

Of note, I met up with these 2 not to long ago, on the ave. Well rather met one who called in a friend. Anyway, went to the Days Inn which is SW friendly but expensive for a dive motel in my opinion. Anyway, the one called someone for supplies and met him downstairs pretty quickly. Makes me wonder if a couple are staked out by the seedy motels in the area.

Question for anyone, What about the Hub Motel past cottman and on the blvd. I remember once seeing to SW talking to a cop outside of it during the day. I drive by it a lot but never see anything going in or out.

Guys, be careful out there. Be patient and careful of your surroundings. LE in philly is pretty obvious, unlike NY, I do not think there is much of an undercover operation here and there cars are obvious enough but still be careful, you can easily get confortable. Also watch for those community watch smucks, you park in front of there house, they will call LE in a heart beat. They likely wont get there till after your done, but avoid the trouble all together. And remember, doesnt matter what the SW has on her body, but if she decides to dump it on your floor, its on you.[/QUOTE]


The hub is not only overpriced but intolerant. The operators rent rooms according to their idea of morality. I once saw two women turned away because they wanted to share one room that only had a double bed. Even if the women had been lesbians (They seemed pretty straight to me, but what do I know.) it is not legal to turn them away simply because you do not believe that two people of the same sex can sleep in the same bed. He did try to rent them two separate rooms. By the way I didn’t get one either when I mentioned that he was violating their civil rights. It is not the best place for your use.

Met Heather on a trip to the K last week; white, early to mid 20's, light colored hear, neither thin nor fat, clean, friendly and with big, natural tits. Good, friendly and unrushed service..she even showed me a good place to park. She said it was the first time she'd been out in 8 months and that she planned to get a bit of money together and move to Florida. She reckoned it would take 3 days so, if she was serious, she's well on her way now.

I also saw a VERY young, skinny blonde girl near the McDonald's. I stopped near her to get a better look. She said she was 18. I didn't believe her but even if she were 18 or 19, I can't bring myself to do it. She should be in college, not walking the streets.

Gareth

[QUOTE=Your Mother]I sometimes see girls coming into a motel (one frequently mentioned here) with a guy just as I am leaving it. Twice recently I've seen girls I recognize and they recognized me. It made me wonder:

On a slow night, what if I just drove to the motel and waited to see who was coming out. Then, if I know the girl, ask her if she'd like to go back inside with me and then I'd drive her back to the K. It sure would be better for her, saving a round trip, saving time, and making money more quickly than usual.

Have any of you guys have ever done this?

How would you feel if some guy did this to you as you walked out and she accepted?[/QUOTE]

Not recommended, the reason why I say this is you don't know about the guy she is with and his mental state. Some guys are a bit looney and may have a GFE, or may really like the girl and you may put yourself in a bad situation. The girl may also be suspicious you are ULE and feel entrapped. In any case I recommed against that course of action. For me I really wouldn't care because you just made my life easier, but not all guys think that way.