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[QUOTE=GrayTurner;1593313]Strangely enough, someone did PM me to ask if it was an overall good time and to ask why she kept me waiting so long. I am not sure how I could have stated it any clearer without going beyond the boards boundaries.[/QUOTE]It's not strange. There are people on this board and others who are stupid enough to not care about things like fake pics, drug use, pimps, upselling and thieves as long as they can go home with the knowledge they got to get with a 20 year old. No matter that she was high as a kite and just laying there, in their heads, none of it matters. This board is not as bad as a local one where the reviews of BP girls actually say things like "Yeah her pics were fake and she was not as attractive" before they rant and rave about how it should not matter. They will also defend the known 'bad service' girls because those girls are hot, like Jade Cruiz, over and over again. The one that always gets me is the CBJ. I love the fact another site will not let you give a girl a 10 if she does a CBJ. I think you cannot go higher than an 8 if it is a CBJ. I read over and over how it was this and that girl give a great BJ. While it might end the same. There are only decent CBJ's, none are great.

As far as Chloe, there were enough warnings in the last six months that should have indicated to stay away. While lately there was not much, and I don't blame you for seeing her (in fact I called her last week and could not work anything out) , I am not surprised by your story.

[QUOTE=Fulton Guy;1588279]If she's a friend of the Summer that used to pair with Brittanie, I'd see her in a heart beat.[/QUOTE]I have seen Mandy several times and she is will worth the ride down there. Cute, enthusiastic and quite submissive, she loves to kiss.

Found this [url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/mandy-in-the-city-23/9381520[/url] And was interested. Then I found [url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/brittney-in-st-louis-21/9381363[/url] With the same phone number. There are several other girls out there with the same number.

I assume you're talking about this Chloe. When I saw her I had a completely different experience. Not saying your report isn't true just pointing out that timing is everything. I'm glad to know that if I try to hook up with her again I should be prepared. Thanks.

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[QUOTE=GrayTurner; 1592838]I saw Chloe last summer and had a great time. I was passing through today and set up an appointment with her. We both arrived at the hotel at about the same time. I was in the lobby and saw her check in and head up to her room. She called me from her room and told me she needed a few minutes to get ready, OK not a problem. Twenty minutes later she called back and said just a few minutes more. I assumed she was bathing and preparing for our session. Finally after an hour had passed she called with the room number. When She opened the door I was surprised to see she was in the same clothes I had seen her in earlier. There was a slight odor in the room and I saw a burned spoon on the nite stand. She was unpacking some clothes from a small bag. She would pick up an item, carry it across the room and lay it down. She then got a second piece and laid it elsewhere. Then she went back, got the first piece, carried it across the room and laid it somewhere else. She kept shuffling things around for at least 5 minutes. She told me to get comfortable but the bed was full of clutter and she was still busy moving things about. I know, I should have left but we all know what a stubborn son of a * the small head can be.

When we finally got started I soon found out that all the rules had changed. Gone was the DFK, or any other kind. Also gone was the DATY, said she cut herself shaving. How about the BBBJ, well now that is all of a sudden 50 extra.

Too late to get out at this point. I was finally able to finish by fantasizing about a splinter laden knothole.

I had a very honest talk with her afterwards. About things like bad habits and poor service. I doubt I will be getting a Christmas card from her this year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Just Aguy; 1593709]I assume you're talking about this Chloe. When I saw her I had a completely different experience. Not saying your report isn't true just pointing out that timing is everything. I'm glad to know that if I try to hook up with her again I should be prepared. Thanks.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]212179[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]As I stated, I also had a great time with her last summer but things have changed.

[QUOTE=Just Aguy; 1593709]I assume you're talking about this Chloe. When I saw her I had a completely different experience. Not saying your report isn't true just pointing out that timing is everything. I'm glad to know that if I try to hook up with her again I should be prepared. Thanks.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]212179[/ATTACH][/QUOTE][QUOTE=GrayTurner;1593786]As I stated, I also had a great time with her last summer but things have changed.[/QUOTE]Back in early October another guy had a very similar experience to GrayTurner, half way thru his report he states," I suspect she was on some sort of drug at this point."

So I assume this has obviously been a progression and getting worse it seems. Shame.

[QUOTE=Kemo Sabe; 1587768]Here's the ad:

MANDY is available Wednesday and Thursday. She is a longtime friend of Summers. She is completly new to this, but is very eager to please. She is 21 years old. 5ft tall and 115lbs. Auburn hair, gorgous face and body. She will be available to take calls after 8am wed. And Thurs. Till app 3pm. 314 243 7145.

I gave Mandy a call a few days ago. She sounded nice on the phone. Unfortunately it was a long drive for me to get to her incall location. I didn't schedule an appointment but plan to try again on a different day.

Let me know if any of you fellas have seen her.

KS[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Downyonder;1593460]I have seen Mandy several times and she is will worth the ride down there. Cute, enthusiastic and quite submissive, she loves to kiss.[/QUOTE]Her phone number is attached to a "Roxy" on another review site? (another site I'd: 151381) Same girl?

Worth the drive down 'where' if I may ask? You mean SoCo?

[QUOTE=GrayTurner; 1592838]I saw Chloe last summer and had a great time. I was passing through today and set up an appointment with her. We both arrived at the hotel at about the same time. I was in the lobby and saw her check in and head up to her room. She called me from her room and told me she needed a few minutes to get ready, OK not a problem. Twenty minutes later she called back and said just a few minutes more. I assumed she was bathing and preparing for our session. Finally after an hour had passed she called with the room number. When She opened the door I was surprised to see she was in the same clothes I had seen her in earlier. There was a slight odor in the room and I saw a burned spoon on the nite stand. She was unpacking some clothes from a small bag. She would pick up an item, carry it across the room and lay it down. She then got a second piece and laid it elsewhere. Then she went back, got the first piece, carried it across the room and laid it somewhere else. She kept shuffling things around for at least 5 minutes. She told me to get comfortable but the bed was full of clutter and she was still busy moving things about. I know, I should have left but we all know what a stubborn son of a * the small head can be.

When we finally got started I soon found out that all the rules had changed. Gone was the DFK, or any other kind. Also gone was the DATY, said she cut herself shaving. How about the BBBJ, well now that is all of a sudden 50 extra.

Too late to get out at this point. I was finally able to finish by fantasizing about a splinter laden knothole.

I had a very honest talk with her afterwards. About things like bad habits and poor service. I doubt I will be getting a Christmas card from her this year.[/QUOTE]That's very sad.

She was very shy and subdued when I met her, oh, early spring, maybe? But there was no evidence of any of that and she seemed a sweet girl. Sad to see.

[QUOTE=STLguy1980;1593324]They will also defend the known 'bad service' girls because those girls are hot, like Jade Cruiz, over and over again.[/QUOTE]Just curious. What makes Jade "bad service"? The fact that she's not GFE?

[QUOTE=Bushtrmr;1594228]Just curious. What makes Jade "bad service"? The fact that she's not GFE?[/QUOTE]Jade may or may not be a GFE, however she has a very nice personality as well as a awesome body.

I certainly enjoyed the time I spent with Jade C!

[QUOTE=Bushtrmr;1594228]Just curious. What makes Jade "bad service"? The fact that she's not GFE?[/QUOTE]To me, it is all the rules she had the only time I saw her last year. Maybe it is a YMMV type situation or maybe she has loosened up the rules but for $$$ a visit I expect more than I got. When compare her to Angel (the one that travels, not the one from Ill) or Kinky Little Nikki who charge the same, or less, and offer FAR more in the way of services, there is a big difference. It amazes me that local girls charge what they do for what they provide. I will give you an example. When I saw Jade last year there was no GFE or anything close. CBJ, no FIV, no DATY, no nothing other then her spending two minutes trying to get me hard and they complaining that I wasn't ready. Then, despite the fact I paid for the hour, she did all she could to get my off as fast as possible and out the door. A week later I saw Erika, and was blown away. Not only were her rates about 2/3 of Jade's, she actually seemed to want me to have fun. MSOG, DFK, DATY and anything I wanted short of greek. While Erika may not be 'model quality' Jade claims to be, she was very attractive, with a nice little spinner body. I saw Angel and Nikki shortly after and instantly knew that I made a huge mistake spending the money on Jade.

I guess if all you are looking for is an attractive girl then Jade is a good choice, but there are a significant number of local girls who provide better service at a more reasonable price (for what they offer). If I want to over pay for limited service, I will take my chances at a strip club.

But again, to each his own. If you guys are happy with her service, then by all means keep seeing her. But let's call a spade a spade, CBJ's are never great, I don't care how 'skilled' the girl is or how hot she is. They can be good but never great.

Same experience here. 8 months ago she was great. This time. 2 weeks ago, she had changed. First she had no protection when I showed up, offered bareback for an extra 100, I said I don't think so and was ready to leave and all the sudden she found a hat. From the time we got comfortable it took a good 5 mins as she was moving stuff from a bag one piece at a time. She seemed out of it and just before we did the deed she asked if I wanted a shot of Jack, said no. She said your loss and downed the largest shot I have ever seen. I also talked to her while I was getting dressed about the attitude, assisting time and the upsell she is doing now. Didn't seem interested as she told me most of here customers tell her she is the hottest chick on BP and that she should start charging more. She will learn once cash flow starts to dwindle. I won't see her again.

[QUOTE=Phunke; 1593863]That's very sad.

She was very shy and subdued when I met her, oh, early spring, maybe? But there was no evidence of any of that and she seemed a sweet girl. Sad to see.[/QUOTE]

I saw Rayne Saturday night and it totally made up for the disaster with Chloe. She has to be the best deal in the area right now. 100 for hour and 150% GFE.

[QUOTE=Bushtrmr;1594228]Just curious. What makes Jade "bad service"? The fact that she's not GFE?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replies about Jade C. I haven't seen her in over 2 1/2 years (bad service just made me think she was doing something wrong) menus are menus.

Basically with girls you are paying for

-some for "model" material

-some for services.

-some for services and looks!

Thankfully we have a lot of girls to choose from a reviews to read so we get what we want (most of the time)

[QUOTE=Bushtrmr;1595191]Thanks for the replies about Jade C. I haven't seen her in over 2 1/2 years (bad service just made me think she was doing something wrong) menus are menus.[/QUOTE]She is doing something wrong if she is asking $$$ and doesn't do BBBJ, rushes, has a limited menu and is mechanical. The no BBBJ alone crosses her off my list.

[QUOTE=Bushtrmr; 1595191]Basically with girls you are paying for

-some for "model" material

-some for services.

-some for services and looks![/QUOTE]The point of this site is to find providers that offer the entire package. Getting a provider that is hot, but provides bad service is like getting a Porsche that doesn't run. It may look really good, but you're not getting anywhere inside it. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to own a Pinto no matter how good it runs? Whatever your budget is, you should want both, looks and service.

[QUOTE=Bushtrmr;1595191]Thankfully we have a lot of girls to choose from a reviews to read so we get what we want (most of the time)[/QUOTE]If we do the research, there is no reason we can't get what we want all the time. I don't know about you, but if I'm spending over $ on anything, I do my research and make sure I am getting the best for the best deal. Why should choosing a provider be any different?

Just saying,

ILH