General Reports

Maybe six years ago, I totally lucked into date with Dyan. Just doing a late afternoon Broadway cruise, and spotted her. Scooped her up, and she directed me to side street. She proceeded to give me the best. Before or since. Blowjob ever. How and why, I could not say, but know this, her mouth, hands, tongue, and even teeth created a magical moment and had me cumming within minutes. Not many of them. She swallowed every drop, kept sucking until it was all gone, and made yummy noises while she was doing it. She is the gold standard. Had a bunch since. And some very good ones. But Dyan reigns supreme. Haven't been to Camden in a while and miss the action. CT is a pale shadow of Broadway and the K in Philly. You lucky dogs.

[QUOTE=Johnboy; 1076693]Without a doubt, Dyan is or was the best at what she did. Kim gives a good BBBJ but is nowhere near the skills of Dyan. Have you seen Dyan on the streets lately. I know she's pretty messed up on dope right now and will only be a matter of time before her man kicks her out. If you do see her don't be fooled by the sweet girl attitute, I used to trust her within reason, but not any more. Its a shame what desperation for dope money will do to people.

JB[/QUOTE]

This type of law is quite vague. So you should go down to the law library look up the "Loitering with purpose of engaging in Prostitution" in the statutory interpretation book. Statutory interpretation gives guidelines on how the court is supposed to use a law.

[QUOTE=Needhelp;1074188]I am meeting with attorneys tomorrow and will explore my options. I did not say anything that would incriminate myself even though cops kept busting my balls to try and get me to admit to something. Let you know how it goes[/QUOTE]Good luck, I would suggest you just be honest with your lawyer about what is most important to you, a record, money, privacy, etc.

My hat is of to any of you Camden mongers. I tried it a few times maybe 10 years ago. Compared to Philly it was difficult to feel comfortable. In philly, I have no problem getting out of my car to strech my legs and had plenty of cover stories availible. There never seemed to be a good reason to give LE about why I might be in the area. It's probably my lack of knoweledge and comfort with the area, but I still think you guys are hardcore.

[QUOTE=Bassmaster 47;1078123]Maybe six years ago, I totally lucked into date with Dyan. Just doing a late afternoon Broadway cruise, and spotted her. Scooped her up, and she directed me to side street. She proceeded to give me the best. Before or since. Blowjob ever. How and why, I could not say, but know this, her mouth, hands, tongue, and even teeth created a magical moment and had me cumming within minutes. Not many of them. She swallowed every drop, kept sucking until it was all gone, and made yummy noises while she was doing it. She is the gold standard. Had a bunch since. And some very good ones. But Dyan reigns supreme. Haven't been to Camden in a while and miss the action. CT is a pale shadow of Broadway and the K in Philly. You lucky dogs.[/QUOTE]If it was six years ago, you must have got her in a much better state than she's been in the last three or so. I have seen pictures of her from approx.10 years ago and believe me she was a hottie, small and petite, but with nice tits and body. What a shame she had to go down this path of self destruction.

JB

[QUOTE=Johnboy; 1076693]Without a doubt, Dyan is or was the best at what she did. Kim gives a good BBBJ but is nowhere near the skills of Dyan. Have you seen Dyan on the streets lately. I know she's pretty messed up on dope right now and will only be a matter of time before her man kicks her out. If you do see her don't be fooled by the sweet girl attitute, I used to trust her within reason, but not any more. Its a shame what desperation for dope money will do to people.

JB[/QUOTE]Dyan memories Part 1.

Hi Johnboy. One thing that Bassmaster stated

"She proceeded to give me the best. Before or since. Blowjob ever. How and why, I could not say"


This is so true. I met Dyan before I read all the hype about her special gift. In fact I just received a BBBJ which was standered fair one hour before I met Dyan. The only reason I picked her up was that she was sooo sweet to me, and only wanted 5.00 or 6.00 for a motel date! I simply wanted to know her better.

See here is the thing, the very second she put her lips around my soft cock I thought "this is one tender SW" I mean before she DID ANYTHING but put her lips around my cock. Some major science is needed here! And little did I know at the time that I had a legend inbetween my legs. When I went home and searched this site for her, it all made sence. Everybody said the same thing about her special way of sucking cock and eating cum. Guys have circled Camden all afternoon looking for her when she was in her prime-just for that reason. She was still in her prime for sucking cock, but because she was now kind of Shanky not many guys wanted her anymore.

She was such a natural that when I asked her why she always swallowed cum, she countered with

"It never occured to me not to swallow, I don't know but it seems to me that spitting it out is just rude"

Street

Camden PD give those "loitering to engage in..." tickets to more than just mongers. Another group that sometimes gets targeted are teenagers and college students. They do it when they get pissed that the young people who they think are "easy stops" don't have any warrants or marijuana on them.

[quote]Absolutely a mistake to admit to any illegal activity. The question I have is how to answer any police questions without lying. Is it appropriate and sensible to state I choose not to answer that question. Seems that will cause them to write mucho tickets.[/quote]There are a million legal reasons why someone can be in an area at any time. I know from first hand experience because I only monger late-night/early-morning in every city I have ever mongered in, including Camden. Probably the most dangerous time to monger, because of how exposed you can be.

Sit down and think about it and you would be surprised what you would come up with. Especially since a lot of you guys monger during "normal hours". Take the time to learn about the city a little bit and you will have plenty of material. When in doubt, yes, it would be best not to answer questions you don't have to answer. In most states the only answers you have to give an officer are usually identity information and registration/insurance if you are stopped in a motor vehicle. Other people on this and other forums have posted pretty good reasons that could help you. Check out the Baltimore & Washington DC forums and the Opinions forum for ideas.

You can't talk yourself out of a ticket, no matter how many stories you have heard. But you can certainly talk yourself into a ticket or worse, a guaranteed conviction. When in doubt about what to say it is always better to shut up.

[quote]Thanks Steve, I may not post all that frequently but I have been at this hobby for about 10 years or so. I've had a couple run ins with Camden PD for traffic shit through the years but this was my first big one, and thankfully it was not that big. I posted my experience as a question as well as a way for everyone to talk about encounters with LE. I'm thankful for all the usefull information I gained from the discussion and Needhelp reinvigorated the discussion. My only problem is that alot of you sound very sure of yourself with regard to how to beat a ticket. I completely understand what each of you are saying and mean no disrespect, but how many of you have actually been in a situation with Camden LE. Myself, Needhelp and one other member from years ago have had the balls to tell you our story. I want to hear the story behind all you other guys! Contrary to what you may think LE can give you a Loitering or Visiting disorderly area ticket just for being in the wrong place, with or without someone in the car. You all bring up a good point about incrimination but fall short of telling everyone that they ARE required to appear in court to fight that ticket. Now I don't know how many of you have had to appear in Camden Municipal Court or any other court to fight these kinds of charges, BUT I DO! It is a complete three ring circus. In order to request a jury trial you will have to have a lawyer reschedule or you will have to appear before the judge to reschedule. Believe me that this will take a while, especially without a lawyer. What you do after that I have no idea, but you will definitely lose another day from work. For those that have actually done this please tell me your story. As far as fighting the charges, you can most definitly plea not guilty as I was told I could do, and probably get the charges dropped because LE never shows up at these things. Problem with this is you will most likely have to reappear at least one other time. This may not be the case all the time, but be prepared for it. Lawyers cost money and so do lost work days. In my case I was able to get the charge down to obstructing traffic and get out in a half hour because of my lawyer. I would like to hear all the stories from you guys who have been in front of the Camden Judge. Respectfully, this would enlighten us more than all the do's and don'ts of traffic stops and put to bed all the speculation about how to get these charges removed.[/quote]Welcome to the legal system. There is nothing unusual about Camden municipal and your experience. Certainly there are many places that are worse. The circus atmosphere can be a great benefit or great detriment depending on one's approach to their charge and the incompetence level of one's lawyer. I never said you don't have to show up to court to beat a ticket. "Easy" means that you have a 98% chance of winning your case outright with no plea if you choose to fight it, it does not mean it won't cost you time or money.

3 appearances is about right, although usually you can do it in 1 or 2 depending on your lawyer's plan, and yes you may have to miss work if you work 9-5 but this is stuff you should think about before mongering. There are plenty of people beating bigger cases in Camden and they spend about the same amount of time and money as you guys are spending. Can you afford to be doing this? For most guys, who are married, with children, with child support, etc. The answer is probably no. Mongering is a sport for free men, nothing but trouble for anyone else. A lot of you guys sound like you were caught red-handed committing murder with the fear in your words. Relax and fight these tickets, these are nothing. The fact that you can write complete sentences and multiple paragraphs and have a regular job tells me you are the "type" who won't get convicted if you don't incriminate yourself. Not everybody is that lucky.

There is nothing I or anyone else could tell you on this message board that either hasn't already been posted, discussed, or you won't get from the busted videos that have been posted several times, or by reading one of the many websites and books out there on how to deal with police interactions. Nobody is going to walk you through the legal system after the fact, that is what you pay lawyers for.

Once again I repeat, "you can beat the charge, but you can't beat the ride". If the "ride" (getting arrested or ticketed) will destroy your life or is a big time or financial hardship, you really have no business street mongering at all.

The good thing is the cost of retaining a lawyer has gone down. You can shop around and bargain down just about any lawyer right now. Times are tough. Especially for lawyers. Don't let them think you are a sucker. A lot of shitty lawyers will discourage you from fighting the case yet will still charge you the full price of fighting it outright. If they can clear your case with the paralegals doing the actual work and you are happy, most will take that option. Find someone who is willing or looking for a fight, don't accept a lawyer who tries to talk you down. You will get ripped off and have the same outcome as someone representing himself.

If you guys want to let police bully you around be my guest. Don't convince everyone else that is the only way the world works, especially when you don't follow the rules and you didn't understand the risks of what you were doing in the first place. Even Spitzer got lazy and broke several rules and he is a lawyer...

Good Luck

If you are pulled over to the curb in Camden, Just have your cell phone out, because in NJ you cannot drive and use a cell phone; So, you are stopped to not break that law. Doesn't work all the time but it would be a reasonable answer as to why you are stopped in Camden.

[QUOTE=Member # 2552; 1078718]Camden PD give those "loitering to engage in. " tickets to more than just mongers. Another group that sometimes gets targeted are teenagers and college students. They do it when they get pissed that the young people who they think are "easy stops" don't have any warrants or marijuana on them.

There are a million legal reasons why someone can be in an area at any time. I know from first hand experience because I only monger late-night / early-morning in every city I have ever mongered in, including Camden. Probably the most dangerous time to monger, because of how exposed you can be.

Sit down and think about it and you would be surprised what you would come up with. Especially since a lot of you guys monger during "normal hours". Take the time to learn about the city a little bit and you will have plenty of material. When in doubt, yes, it would be best not to answer questions you don't have to answer. In most states the only answers you have to give an officer are usually identity information and registration / insurance if you are stopped in a motor vehicle. Other people on this and other forums have posted pretty good reasons that could help you. Check out the Baltimore & Washington DC forums and the Opinions forum for ideas.

You can't talk yourself out of a ticket, no matter how many stories you have heard. But you can certainly talk yourself into a ticket or worse, a guaranteed conviction. When in doubt about what to say it is always better to shut up.

Welcome to the legal system. There is nothing unusual about Camden municipal and your experience. Certainly there are many places that are worse. The circus atmosphere can be a great benefit or great detriment depending on one's approach to their charge and the incompetence level of one's lawyer. I never said you don't have to show up to court to beat a ticket. "Easy" means that you have a 98% chance of winning your case outright with no plea if you choose to fight it, it does not mean it won't cost you time or money.

3 appearances is about right, although usually you can do it in 1 or 2 depending on your lawyer's plan, and yes you may have to miss work if you work 9-5 but this is stuff you should think about before mongering. There are plenty of people beating bigger cases in Camden and they spend about the same amount of time and money as you guys are spending. Can you afford to be doing this? For most guys, who are married, with children, with child support, etc. The answer is probably no. Mongering is a sport for free men, nothing but trouble for anyone else. A lot of you guys sound like you were caught red-handed committing murder with the fear in your words. Relax and fight these tickets, these are nothing. The fact that you can write complete sentences and multiple paragraphs and have a regular job tells me you are the "type" who won't get convicted if you don't incriminate yourself. Not everybody is that lucky.

There is nothing I or anyone else could tell you on this message board that either hasn't already been posted, discussed, or you won't get from the busted videos that have been posted several times, or by reading one of the many websites and books out there on how to deal with police interactions. Nobody is going to walk you through the legal system after the fact, that is what you pay lawyers for.

Once again I repeat, "you can beat the charge, but you can't beat the ride". If the "ride" (getting arrested or ticketed) will destroy your life or is a big time or financial hardship, you really have no business street mongering at all.

The good thing is the cost of retaining a lawyer has gone down. You can shop around and bargain down just about any lawyer right now. Times are tough. Especially for lawyers. Don't let them think you are a sucker. A lot of shitty lawyers will discourage you from fighting the case yet will still charge you the full price of fighting it outright. If they can clear your case with the paralegals doing the actual work and you are happy, most will take that option. Find someone who is willing or looking for a fight, don't accept a lawyer who tries to talk you down. You will get ripped off and have the same outcome as someone representing himself.

If you guys want to let police bully you around be my guest. Don't convince everyone else that is the only way the world works, especially when you don't follow the rules and you didn't understand the risks of what you were doing in the first place. Even Spitzer got lazy and broke several rules and he is a lawyer.

Good Luck[/QUOTE]

Make no mistakes; I love perky little tits with responsive nipples. I would rather nibble on a nice pair of itty bitties, than try to man handle a massive set of droopy boobs. Dangling tits are not sexy, IMHO.

Nikki's attitude and personality more than made up for what she may have lacked in brassiere size.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=Seva Lurker;1073051]CJ, don't be selfish. There are those of us who LOVE those 'itty bitty titties'. I'm one of them. :D[/QUOTE]Here's another, Seva Lurker.

It is not like I am going out and purposely looking for girls with itty bitty titties. Actually when I saw her in street clothing I thought that there was a lot more there then it turned out to be. What first drew me to Nicole (Nikki) was her tall slender frame and the possibilities I saw underneath of her street clothing.

Click Here: To see [size=3][b][post=1080894] Nicole (aka Nikki) –“ itty bitty titties.”[/post][/b][/size]

CookyJar

Nikki takes directions well. Her BBBJ is better than most. She did not deepthroat but she did take direction and preformed each stoke with enthusiasm. She used her tongue on the head, back and around the shaft. Her attention to my balls was expert. She means to please. I would do her again in a heartbeat. YMMV

CookyJar

Nikki has a quiet girl next door type of appearance. She has a wholesome plain look. She is not the glamour star type. That's my opinion. She is quiet and non-assuming. And in another life, she would have been the kind of girl you could have taken home to momma.

Click Here: To see [size=3][b][post=1080899] Nicole (aka Nikki) [/post][/b][/size]

CookyJar

I neglected to mention that I found Nicole on Broadway, about three blocks from the fire station heading towards Morgan. She was in that in-between area where a lot of BSWers hang out. I first spotted her near Walnut walking in that direction (towards Morgan. I passed her up a couple of times as I looked for something a little more exciting. Foolish me! Just like you cannot judge a book by its cover, you cannot judge a SW by her street appearance.

Click Here: To see [size=3][b][post=1080903] Nicole (aka Nikki) continues [/post][/b][/size]

CookyJar

We all dream of that hot beautiful, shapely spinner who lives next door. While; in reality the girl who lives next door probably looks a lot like Nicole. As the 'Girl next door, ' Nicole wouldn't be so bad, especially since she fucks and sucks like a porn star.

Click Here: To see [size=3][b][post=1081455] Nicole – Judging a SW by her cover [/post][/b][/size]

CookyJar

If my memory serves me correctly Nicloe is Patty's sister, now that would be an interesting combo.

[QUOTE=Mike Sweeney;1081539]…Nicloe is Patty's sister, now that would be an interesting combo.[/QUOTE]I am rather fond of ' Sister Acts. ' I'd give it a try.

CookyJar