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[QUOTE=FredMoore;2132091]I belong to the 60 + club, but am lucky to look 50 and am slim, fit, and haired. Chemical enhancement is a wonderful thing and there is no reason why that shouldn't continue.
KyMan, your donation is $50 or $500 to your long term girl? If the former you have a steal deal my man SB#2 sounds perfect! Just keep your I. The. On the downlow and keep on trucking.[/QUOTE]The donation for the Long term baby is $50 per visit and is always good.
So I went to meet this POT and she turned out to be a real life barbie. 5'8" 120 and perfectly groomed. The feel of her soft velvety skin on that tight spinner body was almost too much to handle. I was in shock, as she is, the one out of 10 girls that I could see myself having insane chemistry with.
One twist I wasn't expecting during the date. In the middle of our in the booth makeout session at the restaurant, I asked if she wanted to follow me home so we could make it official. She said she thought that the M & G was official. And as I have heard so many times on this board I had to tell her it would take a trip to the FC to make that happen.
I was starting to sweat as she actually brought up my original intro letter to her, which does specifically state that there has to be at a minimum, some kind of happy ending to the date, to warrant any compensation.
I didn't know what was going to happen next, and she did cut it short at that point (although we were done with dinner). There was some more smooching at the car and she even suggested a car date. I declined and said I would feel awkward doing that and that we would need to be at my place to really move forward.
I txted her after when I got home and it appears that we are on for Sunday. She is a 8.5/9/9/? with amazing potential. Even if she turned out to be a pillow princess I wouldn't care, because she is so smoking hot.
I ask because, so far, many of the SB's I've seen and gone to the FC with have asked to be spanked, slapped, pushed around, thrown around, "hurt me" , "bite me. Harder!" I spent the better part of my 56 years treating women like Princesses while all along perhaps they wanted to be treated more like a slave. While I try to accommodate their requests as best I can, it is a very new experience that is taking a bit to get used to. Just wondering if it is me or if it is the realm I play in now.
Looks like a win. Don't forget pot 2, you lucky bastard.
Zhuxi.
I want to thank all of you for posting and hope to start posting my successes. Been a member of Sugardaddy4 me for 2 weeks and am about to go on a m / g with my first choice a nice 25 yr old asian. We haven't talked money at all, just I like her pics and she likes mine. Her profile is very vague says she's looking for new friends. I hope to have some success based on my hours of reading your reports. Hollywoodguy is my idol and I wish I could move to Cali, LOL.
[QUOTE=Rouleur;2133623]I ask because, so far, many of the SB's I've seen and gone to the FC with have asked to be spanked, slapped, pushed around, thrown around, "hurt me" , "bite me. Harder!" I spent the better part of my 56 years treating women like Princesses while all along perhaps they wanted to be treated more like a slave. While I try to accommodate their requests as best I can, it is a very new experience that is taking a bit to get used to. Just wondering if it is me or if it is the realm I play in now.[/QUOTE]Some women do, some don't. Younger girls these days have had a lot of exposure to porn that girls didn't really have 20 years ago, and to some extent I think they like to act on some of the media influence and do the things they've learned from watching. I get mixed reactions from spanking, sometimes I'll give their ass a test slap to see how they respond and I can usually read their vibe.
Some girls love to be pounded hard and fast, and cannot seem to come any other way except maybe good oral. In moderation I like hard pumping too, especially when they're trash-talking throughout, but I find it has kind of a "numbing" effect that makes it harder for me to come if things get too mechanical. So usually if I find myself needing to be a rough-fucking machine to get them off, I expect to be able to roll over on my back and get a nice BBBJ to completion as a reward for job well-done. Then again I've known some that like to just get on top cowgirl style and grind, finding their own rhythm.
As far as slapping their face or whatever I just don't go there at all. It doesn't do anything for me and even if they did ask me to do it (they haven't) I'm not going to go there.
[QUOTE=Rouleur;2133623]I ask because, so far, many of the SB's I've seen and gone to the FC with have asked to be spanked, slapped, pushed around, thrown around, "hurt me" , "bite me. Harder!" I spent the better part of my 56 years treating women like Princesses while all along perhaps they wanted to be treated more like a slave. While I try to accommodate their requests as best I can, it is a very new experience that is taking a bit to get used to. Just wondering if it is me or if it is the realm I play in now.[/QUOTE]Yes, that has been my experience to this point. Most like and are into some aspect of rough sex. It was a real eye opening experience for me. I'll admit I'm more of a "sensual" type with my flow sexually, so stepping up into the biting, spanking, face fucking, type stuff has been a real challenge for me, but an enjoyable one at that. All the women I've been with thus far, have been somewhat kinky. Even my now regular 21 YO true first SB. Each time we have sex, she shocks me what she gets into. The other night I was nibbling on the back of her neck and she starts moaning and than tells me to bite her and then came the, "harder baby, make it hurt" So I did and she turned around and pushed me on my back and started riding me cowgirl hard, grinding with all her might, then she stopped, and put two fingers up inside her dripping wet self, stuck her fingers into her mouth to taste herself and leaned down and DFK me. I thought that was hot, but I totally did not expect this from a 21 year old little naïve looking girl. LOL.
Another I wrote about here early was full on into being completely dominated and into almost no limits. That one I dropped as going that far is not my style. I think these girls now days have a lot of experience and actually are bored with vanilla sex.
I woke up this morning to find that a SB I had over the other day stole a checkbook and tried cashing a 5 k check that she forged. I had to close my account. The money was not paid out. And the girl didn't even deny it. Thank you bank of america for saving my ass.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2135306]I woke up this morning to find that a SB I had over the other day stole a checkbook and tried cashing a 5 k check. I had to close my account. The money was not paid out. And the girl didn't even deny it. Thank you bank of america for saving my ass.[/QUOTE]Report her to the site you met her on (not that it will stop her completely, but it might inconvenience her at least to the extent you were inconvenienced). I would say press charges, but in this hobby I'm reluctant to recommend that. If she is stupid enough to show cops evidence of a promise for a money / sex transaction they could put charges on you too. There was a recent thread in I think the Ohio forums of exactly that happening, although in that case the SD was an off duty cop.
Also keep your old checks with the now invalid account laying in a conspicuous place as bait for future thief-babies. Maybe even pre-sign a couple of them and leave them blank.. hehe.. it will keep her from foraging around through other things and she'll think she hit paydirt :)
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2135306]I woke up this morning to find that a SB I had over the other day stole a checkbook and tried cashing a 5 k check that she forged. I had to close my account. The money was not paid out. And the girl didn't even deny it. Thank you bank of america for saving my ass.[/QUOTE]Was she someone new or a SB you had seen for a while? How on earth did she rationalize trying to steal from you? Glad you didn't get taken and that BofA was on top of there game.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2135312]Report her to the site you met her on (not that it will stop her completely, but it might inconvenience her at least to the extent you were inconvenienced). I would say press charges, but in this hobby I'm reluctant to recommend that. If she is stupid enough to show cops evidence of a promise for a money / sex transaction they could put charges on you too. There was a recent thread in I think the Ohio forums of exactly that happening, although in that case the SD was an off duty cop.
Also keep your old checks with the now invalid account laying in a conspicuous place as bait for future thief-babies. Maybe even pre-sign a couple of them and leave them blank.. hehe.. it will keep her from foraging around through other things and she'll think she hit paydirt :)[/QUOTE]Well, that is good. How do we share such info. About fraud SBs. Is there a place where we can log it or share it within SD. I have seen few who could qualify as fake SBs who want to steal something from you. ! LOL. I know they are looking for sugar but these are babies who are fraud. Who want to harm us. !
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2135312]Report her to the site you met her on (not that it will stop her completely, but it might inconvenience her at least to the extent you were inconvenienced). I would say press charges, but in this hobby I'm reluctant to recommend that. If she is stupid enough to show cops evidence of a promise for a money / sex transaction they could put charges on you too. There was a recent thread in I think the Ohio forums of exactly that happening, although in that case the SD was an off duty cop.
Also keep your old checks with the now invalid account laying in a conspicuous place as bait for future thief-babies. Maybe even pre-sign a couple of them and leave them blank.. hehe.. it will keep her from foraging around through other things and she'll think she hit paydirt :)[/QUOTE]Obviously she is gone for good now. The bank said if I waited one more day I would have had to make a police report, so she got off easy. The money was never technically stolen, just attempted to. Also it wasnt payment for sex, she used to hang out here from time to time anyway just to waste my time. Thats why the sugar daddy sites can never get shut down for soliciting like myredbook did.
I offered to pay her 1 k a month to live with her one week out of the month. I guess that wasnt enough. We never even started an arrangement, but I was trying to.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2135394]Obviously she is gone for good now. The bank said if I waited one more day I would have had to make a police report, so she got off easy. The money was never technically stolen, just attempted to. Also it wasnt payment for sex, she used to hang out here from time to time anyway just to waste my time. Thats why the sugar daddy sites can never get shut down for soliciting like myredbook did.
I offered to pay her 1 k a month to live with her one week out of the month. I guess that wasnt enough. We never even started an arrangement, but I was trying to.[/QUOTE]Oh ok. In that case I would press charges, no questions asked. Just because her forgery did not result in a successful cash payout, she is still guilty of forgery and stealing something that belonged to you from your place of residence, so that's at least two dings on her rap sheet right there.
But I really like the idea of leaving the signed checks for the invalid account laying around with the amount not yet written in. Not to be used as bait on her, since she won't be invited anymore obviously, but simply as a way to test future SBs on whether you can trust them or not, keep track of the check numbers that are in the bait book so you will know when one is gone. Then as a bonus if they turn out to be a thief you get the satisfaction of knowing they tried to cash it only to get their hopes up then let down.
[QUOTE=KingGreg;2135362]Well, that is good. How do we share such info. About fraud SBs. Is there a place where we can log it or share it within SD. I have seen few who could qualify as fake SBs who want to steal something from you. ! LOL. I know they are looking for sugar but these are babies who are fraud. Who want to harm us. ![/QUOTE]It would be hard to do here without breaking forum rules, but a lot of the SD sites have a way to report problems with a member. I've never done it, so I don't know to what extent they take reports seriously, but I would think they are inclined to believe a paying (credit card wielding) SD's word over a nutty SB's word.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2135411]It would be hard to do here without breaking forum rules, but a lot of the SD sites have a way to report problems with a member. I've never done it, so I don't know to what extent they take reports seriously, but I would think they are inclined to believe a paying (credit card wielding) SD's word over a nutty SB's word.[/QUOTE]She is off the site a long time ago. And once I did have a profile removed from SD4 M. I am not going to report her as I didn't lose any money. I am just glad to be rid of her. In the SD world you are going to get burned from time to time. It's still far less than being married. Plus you can just boot the girl and move on to the next one. No messy court cases to deal with. The crazy thing with all these girls, at least in my case is, that i am generous and consistent. So in the end they would get the money anyway.
A funny story. I was long time ago I was dating an SB whose sister was dating a very famous actor and while they were together she had a kid. He started paying 20k a month in child support. 15 years later she says she needs more cuz the kid has to have the best of everything. The guy goes to his lawyer and says, what should he do. The lawyer says, by the way did you ever get a paternity test?. The guy says no. He gets one and its not his kid. He then cuts her off completely. Unchecked greed is most times a short lived experience. Integrity pays off for a lifetime.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2135425] It's still far less than being married.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. I am still amazed that my cheating Ex came out on top in our divorce and the size of the check I write each month so she can take it in the ass by her loser boyfriend. But when I look back on what she spent while married. Holy fkng sht!
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2135425]She is off the site a long time ago. And once I did have a profile removed from SD4 M. I am not going to report her as I didn't lose any money. I am just glad to be rid of her. In the SD world you are going to get burned from time to time. It's still far less than being married. Plus you can just boot the girl and move on to the next one. No messy court cases to deal with. The crazy thing with all these girls, at least in my case is, that i am generous and consistent. So in the end they would get the money anyway.[/QUOTE]Marriage doesn't really have to be like that though. My ex-wife help put me through college. My current girlfriend pays part of my mortgage payment. Divorce and even break up sucks whether there is money involved or not though, that's one thing less to deal with, but in terms of money drain civy dating is nothing like my SB habit. Now sometimes you run into impromptu situations that cost more than you want, for example meeting a potential one night stand in a club that's an hour or so away from home, it's not hard to spend $50 on drinks to loosen her up and another $100 on a room just to be sure she doesn't get away. When that happens you end up shaking your head as you drive home wondering how free pussy ended up being so expensive.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2135433]Marriage doesn't really have to be like that though. My ex-wife help put me through college. My current girlfriend pays part of my mortgage payment. Divorce and even break up sucks whether there is money involved or not though, that's one thing less to deal with, but in terms of money drain civy dating is nothing like my SB habit. Now sometimes you run into impromptu situations that cost more than you want, for example meeting a potential one night stand in a club that's an hour or so away from home, it's not hard to spend $50 on drinks to loosen her up and another $100 on a room just to be sure she doesn't get away. When that happens you end up shaking your head as you drive home wondering how free pussy ended up being so expensive.[/QUOTE]Pussy is never free. You are always going to pay financially or emotionally.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2135447]Pussy is never free. You are always going to pay financially or emotionally.[/QUOTE]It's true. If I only had a dollar for every migraine I've endured in pursuit of pussy, I could live like Hugh Hefner or Donald Sterling. Hey, wait a minute, those guys still have a constant stream of female-related headaches don't they? I guess it never really ends.
I am doing one M and G a week so far this year. I have taken a different approach than in prior years. I am not just going for the low hanging fruit. (UTR's, Pro's, and down on their luck girls). I have really tried to target the "good girls" with a naughty side, that need their daddy to be complete (at least in the FC). This nurse with a bangin bod ( 5'2" and 103 ) replied to my intro letter as follows "Thanks for your message. I love that it was straight to the point. No room for questions. I actually like your arrangement, it seems safe, and easy".
Easy, as in no promise from her, of more than the happy ending of her choice. If it doesn't go to intercourse on the first date, no problem, but if there is no guarantee of that on the second date, then there won't be one. The usual $ offer. I have started to just hit up anyone, even the obvious GPS girls, because you never know, right?
Of course a first date could be just a M and G with no compensation and half of the ones I have had this year were exactly that. So the quantity of my sex life has dropped off a bit but the quality has gone up.
Pussy Means Stress (PMS).
None of us are immune. Rich or poor, it's all the same. Look at Donald Sterling. All the money in the world and this skank outs him to the world. That girl had best watch her back. I guess 2 Ferraris and a $1 Mil apartment aren't enough. A woman scorned (his wife) precipitated that little toss up it seems. Sheesh! What is a guy to do?
So Hollywood has got it right it seems. Serial date the good ones, discard them when the emotional / financial cost gets too high, and still have your life to yourself. Sometimes it's nice just to go home to peace and quiet, kick back, watch TV, or read a good book. On the other hand prospecting for the next hottest girl is always a load of fun.
Pot # 1 converted to SB #2.
She is a cute, fiery 20 something yr old 8/6. 5/8/8 She is inexperienced and naive but will be fun training up.
SB # 1 has fallen off the grid. She owes me so she knows she isn't going to make much coming over for a quickie. Like all of them, she can't look long term enough to see that 1) she gets a heck of a good fucking with multiple Os and 2) there is a full payday after she works off the debt in a month or so. Who knows? I will keep her in the loop if she doesn't totally flake out.
POT # 3.
I am most excited about. We have had scheduling problems but she is a 9/9/9/? I hope I can get her converted to an SB soon.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2135447]Pussy is never free. You are always going to pay financially or emotionally.[/QUOTE]Hollywood. At least you are consistent. Everyone of your girls look the same. Hot, hot, and hot!
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2136311]Hollywood. At least you are consistent. Everyone of your girls look the same. Hot, hot, and hot![/QUOTE]18-24. AA or mixed. Slender with A or B cups preferred. Totally shaved that day. Pretty feet are a plus. And must know how to kiss or be willing to learn. Its like natural viagra.
,bad idea? Perhaps, but I'm enjoying the ride. My first true and real SB has now turned into a thing. She's 21, with one kid from Virginia, girl next door type. 7 body, face a solid 8, sex is moving up into the high 9 range. The girl is truly madly in love with me and I've decided, hey, I'm 44 years old, how many chances does a guy my age truly get to have a 21 year old so in love with you, she changes her life and wants to spend it with me? So why not. I've met her entire family and they all approve so far and even told her, I was a catch. True, this does not really fit into the mold of things here, but we only live this life once and I don't see another chance to engage in this level of a relationship with someone so fresh, appealing, sexy, and all that again.
I am as skeptical as they come, having been burned more then once by a nice ass and pretty face, but I have tested this girl and she is legit madly in love with me. So for a while at least, my SB dating will slow to a crawl. I've been telling myself this can't really be happening, even reading articles on other couples of such opposite age extremes and finding it does happen and on occasion does work.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2136554],bad idea? Perhaps, but I'm enjoying the ride. My first true and real SB has now turned into a thing. She's 21, with one kid from Virginia, girl next door type. 7 body, face a solid 8, sex is moving up into the high 9 range. The girl is truly madly in love with me and I've decided, hey, I'm 44 years old, how many chances does a guy my age truly get to have a 21 year old so in love with you, she changes her life and wants to spend it with me? So why not. I've met her entire family and they all approve so far and even told her, I was a catch. True, this does not really fit into the mold of things here, but we only live this life once and I don't see another chance to engage in this level of a relationship with someone so fresh, appealing, sexy, and all that again.
I am as skeptical as they come, having been burned more then once by a nice ass and pretty face, but I have tested this girl and she is legit madly in love with me. So for a while at least, my SB dating will slow to a crawl. I've been telling myself this can't really be happening, even reading articles on other couples of such opposite age extremes and finding it does happen and on occasion does work.[/QUOTE]Sincerely hope the relationship works out for you. I don't know how old the child is but you have a chance to have a significant impact on the young one. Having her Family be positive about the relationship certainly doesn't hurt either. I hope you will let us know how the relationship progresses as time goes on. Again best wishes.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2136554],bad idea? Perhaps, but I'm enjoying the ride. My first true and real SB has now turned into a thing. She's 21, with one kid from Virginia, girl next door type. 7 body, face a solid 8, sex is moving up into the high 9 range. The girl is truly madly in love with me and I've decided, hey, I'm 44 years old, how many chances does a guy my age truly get to have a 21 year old so in love with you, she changes her life and wants to spend it with me? So why not. I've met her entire family and they all approve so far and even told her, I was a catch. True, this does not really fit into the mold of things here, but we only live this life once and I don't see another chance to engage in this level of a relationship with someone so fresh, appealing, sexy, and all that again.
I am as skeptical as they come, having been burned more then once by a nice ass and pretty face, but I have tested this girl and she is legit madly in love with me. So for a while at least, my SB dating will slow to a crawl. I've been telling myself this can't really be happening, even reading articles on other couples of such opposite age extremes and finding it does happen and on occasion does work.[/QUOTE]Real opportunities like that, real love, maybe once a year or two if you date alot. Less if you don't.
Sugar dating young girls can be lonely on the weekend. They are either out with their girlfriends or working. Even my MILF is busy beacuse that's mostly when she sees her kids, babysitting or cooking for her family.
Sunday I have 4 FC dates scheduled. Two will have to go for sure.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2136554],bad idea? Perhaps, but I'm enjoying the ride. My first true and real SB has now turned into a thing. She's 21, with one kid from Virginia, girl next door type. 7 body, face a solid 8, sex is moving up into the high 9 range. The girl is truly madly in love with me and I've decided, hey, I'm 44 years old, how many chances does a guy my age truly get to have a 21 year old so in love with you, she changes her life and wants to spend it with me? So why not. I've met her entire family and they all approve so far and even told her, I was a catch. True, this does not really fit into the mold of things here, but we only live this life once and I don't see another chance to engage in this level of a relationship with someone so fresh, appealing, sexy, and all that again.
I am as skeptical as they come, having been burned more then once by a nice ass and pretty face, but I have tested this girl and she is legit madly in love with me. So for a while at least, my SB dating will slow to a crawl. I've been telling myself this can't really be happening, even reading articles on other couples of such opposite age extremes and finding it does happen and on occasion does work.[/QUOTE]Good luck DD! I know what obsession feels like, but as reality hits make sure the exit door is clearly marked. Obsessed girls can get crazy and she may not want to let go. When the sex becomes the "same ole same ole " leave yourself the freedom to add to the collection.
Weekends: Many young Pots tell me they are only available on weekends, which I cannot do. I found the mid 20's (26-28) are a little more settled and don't need to bar crawl til 4 AM every weekend.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2136736]Sugar dating young girls can be lonely on the weekend. They are either out with their girlfriends or working. [/QUOTE]I find that I get most responses from new girls that I have contacted on Monday or Tuesday. They usually are busy on the weekends. Even if I make a date for a M&G on the weekend it seems like I have a high flake rate.
I do have a very promising M&G from a 24 yo mixed single mom this evening. Her communication has been outstanding, she says she had one SB before (about a year ago) and she understands the deal here. Yesterday without being asked she sent me an enticing picture, that if recent, earns her a 9 on body. We are having dinner this evening and I am ready with a nearby hotel picked out. I normally bring them home but she lives about 40 minutes away and I think she needs to stay relatively close to home tonight for child care purposes.
My wild sex white girl from last week is still texting but has been unavailable. I think she was not pleased with $. If she would come out and say so I would give her a bump because she was so good. She keeps saying she wants to get together again soon, but has not had time. We will see.
Have a date on Tuesday with a 35 year old, outside my usual age target, but she has a fantastic body. Her email to me said "let's play first, then go to dinner". Probably UTR but I am going to find out!
First off let me start by saying, that while I was a casual observer of this thread, I didn't realize until just now that this forum covers all SD / sb not just in the Richmond area. Next, I have to throw some props to Hollywood Guy, yes living in Southern California, I. E. LA helps more than can be imagined, but that 85 pound spinner, she is so smoking HOT!
I am 41, with about 18 years off Mongering / Sugar Daddy exp. I have been with 20.00, 200.00, 2,000.00 girls, what is the difference. Well drugs, and how much they will do.
The worst ones are the middle ones, the girls who from BP, CL, or any other thing like that, the ones wanting 200-400 per visit. Too many rules, too stiff never a good time.
For years I was on the sugardaddy site and been with many, many, beautiful girls, I was shocked just how much I could get them to do.
But now I find that more and more girls are doing dope, and so many are scared to death of working the streets, so they will give mindless hours of numbing sex for very little money each day, as long as you treat them okay, and are there every day.
The best is using one of these girls to find the next one. I was with a girl named Capri, she was 23 and 90 pounds, dark hair and I saw her every morning, she would ride along with me as I did my errands and would take care of me in the car as much as I wanted. I would them at some point, park and everything was on the menu, when I got bored of her, I asked her to find other girls to join us, which she did, her problem. She brings a GF that is younger, hotter, sexier, and sluttier than she was!
So of course over the next couple of weeks, I make the switch. This girl is about to turn 19, but she was 18 when I first started with her 6 months ago, she has dark hair, ice blue eyes, was thin but she is 8 months preggo now, she lives at home with her BF, I have trained her to become such a total ****, I pick her up, she stays at my place 2 hours, that's usually a long make session, face fuck, and sex, 2 -3 rounds and then her DAD picks her up. Total damage, 40-50 per day, plus I make her lunch, and provide her with smokes while she is here.
I see her 5-6 days a week depending on her schedule / flakiness.
It is currently a buffet out there right now. She never heard of a sugardaddie before, but she is learning fast.
She showed me about 6 of her girlfriends from Facebook, all either get high or are in rehab, again none are street walkers, but a couple of "older" guys who help them out. All of them are hot. So use your SB to recruit another. I constantly tell her how lucky she is, how she wouldn't last on the streets, and as long as she is Daddys little **** she will get cared for. They gobble it all up. Literally!
Teddy.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;2137150]I find that I get most responses from new girls that I have contacted on Monday or Tuesday. They usually are busy on the weekends. Even if I make a date for a M&G on the weekend it seems like I have a high flake rate.
I do have a very promising M&G from a 24 yo mixed single mom this evening. Her communication has been outstanding, she says she had one SB before (about a year ago) and she understands the deal here. [/QUOTE]Almost on cue about the time I hit upload on this post, my promising 24 yo texted me with a "family issue, I promise I'm not blowing you off, can we reschedule" message.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2136554],bad idea? Perhaps, but I'm enjoying the ride. My first true and real SB has now turned into a thing. She's 21, with one kid from Virginia, girl next door type. 7 body, face a solid 8, sex is moving up into the high 9 range. The girl is truly madly in love with me and I've decided, hey, I'm 44 years old, how many chances does a guy my age truly get to have a 21 year old so in love with you, she changes her life and wants to spend it with me? So why not. I've met her entire family and they all approve so far and even told her, I was a catch. True, this does not really fit into the mold of things here, but we only live this life once and I don't see another chance to engage in this level of a relationship with someone so fresh, appealing, sexy, and all that again.
I am as skeptical as they come, having been burned more then once by a nice ass and pretty face, but I have tested this girl and she is legit madly in love with me. So for a while at least, my SB dating will slow to a crawl. I've been telling myself this can't really be happening, even reading articles on other couples of such opposite age extremes and finding it does happen and on occasion does work.[/QUOTE]It absolutely does happen. Probably more than gets discussed here, since most of us here already have a wife or GF and / or are literally going out of our way to avoid anything "real" from forming. What you're experiencing is just a symptom of a real SB versus a pro. Many of them do get attached to their SDs. Even before the M&G and early on in e-mail contact, I've found a significant percentage of them will hint that they would like to find something real (love etc) to go a long with the more obvious forms of help or even to replace it.
If you don't mind my asking, what was her relationship with her father like? I ask because I've found these types usually either had an absent father or one that was extremely good to them. Very that I've found fall between those two extremes.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2137336]It absolutely does happen. Probably more than gets discussed here, since most of us here already have a wife or GF and / or are literally going out of our way to avoid anything "real" from forming. What you're experiencing is just a symptom of a real SB versus a pro. Many of them do get attached to their SDs. Even before the M&G and early on in e-mail contact, I've found a significant percentage of them will hint that they would like to find something real (love etc) to go a long with the more obvious forms of help or even to replace it.
If you don't mind my asking, what was her relationship with her father like? I ask because I've found these types usually either had an absent father or one that was extremely good to them. Very that I've found fall between those two extremes.[/QUOTE]Well I'm still a little leary of all this, but leave it to me to jump in and see what happens. As for the father, that was my guess early on, as was possibly being insecure. Dads in her life and she calls herself a "daddies girl" Although looking at the picture more, he was quite absent, but not a loser dad. He cares about her and she knows it. Insecure is out too. She's quite secure with who she is. Still young and immature as expected in many ways, but very mature in others. I like that she has a kid as this kind of forces her into the box of growing up and taking on some responsibilities. She has SOME wisdom when she gets cornered it will show up. She is the classic very small town girl, big family, knows everyone in her town. She enjoys showing me off to her friends who always first kind of give us that look of shock and than later feel more comfortable. I can't say as of yet I'm in love with her, but I'm human and have some strong feelings for her and genuinely care about her well being.
So looking back on our now two months of courting, the thing I think that reeled her in (initially against my wishes) was that I treat her extra nicely. And that honestly comes natural to me. She's had two really bad relationships. One with a drunk abuser and the other, the father of her kid, dumped her when she was six months pregnant. Then she spent a few years bouncing around from guy to guy basically being used, etc. I came along treated her nicely, affectionately, spoiled her a bit and she fell head over heels. She's the girl I wrote about on here a while back that told me she had feelings and then I found out she was still setting dates. When I confronted her, she did not know what info I had and she came completely clean with it all and told me the truth. She cried her little eyes out and since, doesn't go out and do anything unless it's with me. She is a sweet girl by nature and not really cut out for being a hard core SB in the first place.
I know this probably won't last, but for me, it's chance to relive a period of life I never had being that I married really young. I'll make the most of it, enjoy her, take care of her for a while and then we will probably have some kind of sad ending. 23 years her senior is not something you can wish or will away and eventually I suspect that will catch up to us.
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;2137444]Well I'm still a little leary of all this, but leave it to me to jump in and see what happens. As for the father, that was my guess early on, as was possibly being insecure. Dads in her life and she calls herself a "daddies girl" Although looking at the picture more, he was quite absent, but not a loser dad. He cares about her and she knows it. Insecure is out too. She's quite secure with who she is.
[/QUOTE]I wouldn't have even entered insecure into the conversation, because I've seen all types. But, dad being absent + being a positive figure overall that loves her would not only corroborate what I've noticed, but actually might magnify it in her case. First I should probably say that I'm not remotely involved in psychology as a profession, just have a natural curiosity about it. I'm sure some of my ideas would cause Dr. Phil to shuffle his moustache and raise an eyebrow at my non-profit theories but I bet I've banged way more women than him.
One of the patterns I've noticed (and an observation I've tried to utilize when I asses what type of a girl they are) is that if Dad was abusive, perceived as a loser, absent in a highly negative way (daddy did 20 years for killing his drug dealer) or rejected her, it seems to lead them down more of a path of pro. But, if daddy was absent because he was highly successful, had too many women tempting him and was a player, or he was just a good hardworking man trying to provide for his family then the absence is perceived as justifiable by her -- she misses the dad element in her life but does not have built in resentment.
Hope that makes sense. There can be absence perceived in a good "longing" sort of way (miss you daddy), and absence perceived as bad "fuck you for not caring daddy and drinking too much" kind of way. Despite the examples I gave above, either can be present in any socioeconomic situation (I. E. "good" absence is not always a factor of wealth or success and vice versa). The type of absence results in a very different type of girl.
My current girlfriend's dad just plain died on her at a young age. To me that falls into the "miss you daddy" type of category for example.
Then there is another type of SB I've met that doesn't really have an absent dad at all, they just have an overwhelmingly loving / spoiling dad who has made it his life's calling to be sure she knows she is his angel, and he has set a standard for which she will settle for no less, and she's obviously not going to get it from someone her age so she is looking for a partner that can live up to her standard, so she finds herself instantly attracted to people her dad's age.
In civy dating, the majority of the women I met would fall into neither the "absent daddy" or the "daddy's princess" category, but when I did meet one, her SB potential was usually worn on her sleeve -- I could see them from a mile away and not just because they were younger. They never get over it and you'll be able to spot them when they are 20 or 30 or 40, it's fundamentally who they are.
Oddly, unlike civy dating, MOST of the true SBs I've talked to in depth fall into one of those two categories.
As far as secure or insecure.... I see that as a separate personality trait that's unrelated to any of the above. To me when an SB tells me exactly why she likes older men on the first date, and goes into depth about the absence of her real father, I tend to see her as a relative secure person who is in touch with her feelings and doesn't mind describing who she is and what she is looking for.
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I know this probably won't last, but for me, it's chance to relive a period of life I never had being that I married really young. I'll make the most of it, enjoy her, take care of her for a while and then we will probably have some kind of sad ending. 23 years her senior is not something you can wish or will away and eventually I suspect that will catch up to us.[/QUOTE]Good luck mate. Definitely enjoy the ride.
If I wasn't married, I would probably entertain a similar adventure. But so far in my Sugar Bowl career, I haven't had a girl fall head over heels for me. I've had SBs that turned into FWBs where the allowance became less important. But so far never a full-on romance. I think it's mostly due to my unavailability, I don't do overnights, I don't do long phone conversations, and I don't video chat. I just text and maybe see them a few times a month on relatively short dates. A couple of SBs did want more from me (they wanted me to call more often) but that was a no-go for me with my situation so that pretty much stopped any real romantic feelings from developing because I could never really "be there" for them.
I also got married young so part of the reason I'm in the Sugar Bowl is to relive a period in my life and have experiences that I never had a chance to when I was younger. The vast vast majority of SBs encounters will be short-term but then again so is civvy dating for 20-somethings. If however you do find a young woman in the Bowl that you genuinely click with and you're not married, then go for it. It probably won't last the distance but enjoy the ride and you'll sure to get a lot of great memories from it.
So on my last update, I reconnected with two SBs I thought were lost causes. Here's a brief update.
Asian SB.
I thought this was a one-time deal because she never returned my text messages for several days after we hooked up. But over the past week, she's called my phone several times. Unfortunately I wasn't able to answer when she called and when I called her back, she didn't pick up. I'm guessing at some point down the line I might be able to hookup with her again, but she seems pretty allusive, so in all likelihood it'll remain a one-time thing. I'm glad I had the experience, but man one-time deals can be such a tease!
Collegiate SB (now known as Collegiate BC).
I wasn't sure if this was going to be a one-time deal too but I contacted last week and we hooked up again after her workshift ended. This time she asked for a little more allowance, but when I said no she didn't give much resistance at all and was still eager to meet. We had another fun-time and I still marveled at just how amazing her body was. After our romp, I found out she did find a SD who gave her a lot of money (I believe it because she really is that hot). That SD trained her well because she's completely housebroken now, LOL. No more diva attitude and just appreciative and eager to please. That said, there must be trouble in paradise because if her rich SD was still giving her a lot of money, I doubt she would be seeing me for a fraction of the amount. So there's more to the story obviously, but whatever the circumstances it's currently working out to my benefit. She indicated she wants to keep making this a weekly thing, which is absolutely okay in my book. We don't have much of a connection, so it's pretty much just a very convenient booty call setup. We just text each other on when to hookup.
I see a fair number of 5 hundred dollar girls on SD$M. One can only dream. The true 10+ super hotties. Still no guarantee of 10+ skills. But there is nothing like taking in the view when you got your tongue inside one of those babes. I need to get rich again.
So out of the blue, the swimsuit model that I haven't seen in 4 months texts me about getting together. I mentioned that last time we saw each other she had "rules" that were a problem (no BBBJ) She says "Oh I know you well enough now that is not a problem" So I am set with my perfect 10 body for Thursday. Then I had set a date to take my current favorite (the translator) out for a nice lunch for her birthday on Wednesday and she emails last night that she wanted it to be a memorable birthday so she had made arrangments for a room (don't get any better than that).
Now my 23 yr old hottie is emailing that she will be "home alone" on the 4th and do I want to come over that morning. So, I have dates with a 10 that is promising to step up her game, a solid 9 that has exceptional game and another 8. 5 that is a 9 in the bedroom. Going to have to eat my Wheaties.
So my favorite says during our last visit that she likes to go to strip clubs to see the women, but finds it frustrating because it is "look but don't touch" Might have to explore with my other 2 this week their thoughts on being with another woman. Here is a shot of her. [ATTACH=CONFIG]330143[/ATTACH].
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;2138025]So out of the blue, the swimsuit model that I haven't seen in 4 months texts me about getting together. I mentioned that last time we saw each other she had "rules" that were a problem (no BBBJ) She says "Oh I know you well enough now that is not a problem" So I am set with my perfect 10 body for Thursday. Then I had set a date to take my current favorite (the translator) out for a nice lunch for her birthday on Wednesday and she emails last night that she wanted it to be a memorable birthday so she had made arrangments for a room (don't get any better than that).
Now my 23 yr old hottie is emailing that she will be "home alone" on the 4th and do I want to come over that morning. So, I have dates with a 10 that is promising to step up her game, a solid 9 that has exceptional game and another 8. 5 that is a 9 in the bedroom. Going to have to eat my Wheaties.
So my favorite says during our last visit that she likes to go to strip clubs to see the women, but finds it frustrating because it is "look but don't touch" Might have to explore with my other 2 this week their thoughts on being with another woman. Here is a shot of her. [ATTACH=CONFIG]330143[/ATTACH].[/QUOTE]We are so lucky. LOL.
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;2138025]So out of the blue, the swimsuit model that I haven't seen in 4 months texts me about getting together. I mentioned that last time we saw each other she had "rules" that were a problem (no BBBJ) She says "Oh I know you well enough now that is not a problem" So I am set with my perfect 10 body for Thursday. Then I had set a date to take my current favorite (the translator) out for a nice lunch for her birthday on Wednesday and she emails last night that she wanted it to be a memorable birthday so she had made arrangments for a room (don't get any better than that).
Now my 23 yr old hottie is emailing that she will be "home alone" on the 4th and do I want to come over that morning. So, I have dates with a 10 that is promising to step up her game, a solid 9 that has exceptional game and another 8. 5 that is a 9 in the bedroom. Going to have to eat my Wheaties.
So my favorite says during our last visit that she likes to go to strip clubs to see the women, but finds it frustrating because it is "look but don't touch" Might have to explore with my other 2 this week their thoughts on being with another woman. Here is a shot of her. [ATTACH=CONFIG]330143[/ATTACH].[/QUOTE]Beautiful body, the kind I dream about. Thank you for sharing the photo Beach.