Massage Therapists

[QUOTE=Honolulu1;4823350]HoLeeMack,

I checked this place last week and yeah they wanted $80, I negotiated to $60. I told girls, I know y'all need money but you got to meet me on standard rate or us guys going never going come around. Attitude and facial expressions, I told them I gladly can go to somewhere else but they nevah like me leave. I even told them HE, $60 too. They was really mad but I told them you play greedy you not going get a return from me or other guys, again more attitude and facial expressions. Guys I try to converse with therapist to have a agreement, I do walk away when they are demandingb and when they want to get paid higher rates. I tell um go start a frickin therapist union. LOL. But stand your ground guys if not you guys going pay high rate's for crappy service. Oh BTW I got my full hour. I was the one watching the clock. LOL. Be akamai guys. Hono1.[/QUOTE]Thank you Hono1. Good job at keeping the bargaining agreement in the mongers court. Hope you got a slam dunk. Hahaha. Did you see one of the 3 ladies in the picture? I want to go to back Pin Thai Aiea again after seeing Sophie returned from Middle St. Really hope Naughty Nancy returns to Aiea too.

Went to see Irene instead of pink yesterday since she wasnt free till later afternoon. OMG bad idea. Go see pink guys I've read nothing but good reports and she looks to be hot af. No upsell? OMG I fucked up big time. Stay away from irenes place 80 hf and 100 he although she does get nude and roaming everywhere but you don't want to see that.

[QUOTE=Blake123;4822853]Don't pay $80/hour for a friggin massage--from any girl.[/QUOTE]During the Virus shut down, I was able to get the ' legit professional' no he, therapy that I needed and thankful for.

Thai massage, HF $60 + $20 tip, total $80. Worth it? Yes. Sometimes better than the light rub and quick Tug, short time and upsell. YMMV.

[QUOTE=NevaEnuf;4823823]During the Virus shut down, I was able to get the ' legit professional' no he, therapy that I needed and thankful for.

Thai massage, HF $60 + $20 tip, total $80. Worth it? Yes. Sometimes better than the light rub and quick Tug, short time and upsell. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Think of it this way, 15% tip is 9 dollar, and 20% tip is 12. But tip is whatever you want really. Especially for legit places, I think it's fine.

Hello people, Does anyone know why no massage ads were not coming from century center? I badly need a massage with extra services I used to have in cc.

And also I posts from girls like Rita, Skye, spice etc, 3-4 weeks ago but not recently, I wanted to try one of them but all of a sudden I don't see their ads. Does anyone know whether they moved out from cc? Please reply if anyone knows their new location, it would be really great. TIA.

[QUOTE=Happytime;4823365]Yes but my time is more valuable than there's and some of us have although a small few don't mind paying for good service in life you pay for what you get always take 300 with me and see what comes of it usually lots comes with that just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Everyone is titled to their opinions, yes our time is valuable and for a massage and HE, I'd never overpay. I gift the girls with personal gifts, etc. From time to time. Which they always appreciate. If you do loathe the girls with giving more than standard rates, then girls expect more money Everytime but service is laxing. No thanks but it's your money to spoil your therapists just not for me. Hono1.

[QUOTE=Honolulu1;4824119]Everyone is titled to their opinions, yes our time is valuable and for a massage and HE, I'd never overpay. I gift the girls with personal gifts, etc. From time to time. Which they always appreciate. If you do loathe the girls with giving more than standard rates, then girls expect more money Everytime but service is laxing. No thanks but it's your money to spoil your therapists just not for me. Hono1.[/QUOTE]Hono has the right idea. But there are always high maka guys who like to overpay. You see them at KBs all the time.

Can anyone tell us the location of the pacific heights place?

[QUOTE=Discoraja1;4824059]Hello people, Does anyone know why no massage ads were not coming from century center? I badly need a massage with extra services I used to have in cc.

And also I posts from girls like Rita, Skye, spice etc, 3-4 weeks ago but not recently, I wanted to try one of them but all of a sudden I don't see their ads. Does anyone know whether they moved out from cc? Please reply if anyone knows their new location, it would be really great. TIA.[/QUOTE]Go read the News thread and stay up-to-date with the hobby you partake in. GL!

I do agree with Hono1 regarding trying to keep providers in line with the going rate (60+60 for HE and 60+120 for FS), but I think times are slowly changing in that, the older providers with regulars tend to adhere to the going rate versus the newer (younger and hotter ones) who trying to raise the bar, per say. Put into perspective, it's pretty much the same thing with cars. And older used car costs less and the newer ones costs more. Both get you from point A to point B, but it's the new car experience that makes it much more enjoyable. Luckily for now, if you don't want to or can't pay the new car price, there are still older used models available for cheaper.
Many providers read our forum and based on the posts from folks during the COVID shutdown, some providers also noticed that they have some pretty desperate mongers out there that might just be willing to pay the premium $$ for service. Kinda like supply and demand, which is not in our favor at this time (especially if you are looking for a young hottie on the cheap). I also do what Hono1 does, in that I periodically bring snacks or gifts to my favorite providers from time to time, and additionally when I do go, I usually bring them lunch or dinner (depending on the time). Little things like this keeps my rates stable and it usually results in better service (Was especially helpful during COVID, as I was still able to see my favorites despite the shutdown).

I somewhat disagree with the Korean Bar analogy, as although I see your point, it is not the same scenario IMHO. I say this because, at the bar "cash is king. " I was in that scene for years (a while ago) and if you get outspent by another patron, then you can either kick it up a notch, sit there and drink alone, or come back another night when the bar is slow. I know that some of the bar regulars get upset when folks come in and steal a girl they like or simply corral all of the popular girls with a bottle or two of champagne, which is why the smart regular patrons avoid Friday and Saturday nights, as the competition is sometimes too great for their wallets. KB princesses and mamasans will almost always cater to the high roller when push comes to shove.

In comparison to the AMP scene, massage / AMP providers set their price and hope that patrons will agree, no one else in the same room that you need to bid against, per say. All because customer A pays more does not mean that customer B will agree to do so, thus if no compromise is reached, both parties simply walk away. Based on what a couple of providers who push for higher rate told me, there are folks out there willing to pay more for their services. Plus, with the influx of girls from LA and LV, who usually get more money there than here, price haggling may become a part of the experience. Which I would hate to see happen, as it usually kills the mood for both parties, even if a compromise is reached.

Just my 2 cents. HT.

[QUOTE=Magnod;4824223]Hono has the right idea. But there are always high maka guys who like to overpay. You see them at KBs all the time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DiscoRaja1;4824059]Hello people, Does anyone know why no massage ads were not coming from century center? I badly need a massage with extra services I used to have in cc.

And also I posts from girls like Rita, Skye, spice etc, 3-4 weeks ago but not recently, I wanted to try one of them but all of a sudden I don't see their ads. Does anyone know whether they moved out from cc? Please reply if anyone knows their new location, it would be really great. TIA.[/QUOTE]There are ads that still pop up on different sites but cc illegal operations are coming to a close soon. Too many businesses to compete with. Some massage places have open up but these are the much stronger ones that can accept the pandemic problems. Others want to open but no reliable workers and lots of places have unlicensed and no training at all. Just show up and go thru the motion. Unfriendly workers and messed up appointments and not to much into the hygiene effort.

[QUOTE=Honolulu1;4823350]HoLeeMack,

I checked this place last week and yeah they wanted $80, I negotiated to $60. I told girls, I know y'all need money but you got to meet me on standard rate or us guys going never going come around. Attitude and facial expressions, I told them I gladly can go to somewhere else but they nevah like me leave. I even told them HE, $60 too. They was really mad but I told them you play greedy you not going get a return from me or other guys, again more attitude and facial expressions. Guys I try to converse with therapist to have a agreement, I do walk away when they are demandingb and when they want to get paid higher rates. I tell um go start a frickin therapist union. LOL. But stand your ground guys if not you guys going pay high rate's for crappy service. Oh BTW I got my full hour. I was the one watching the clock. LOL. Be akamai guys. Hono1.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your review. I was really thinking about trying Irene too, but never mind. Did you get a good glimpse of Emmy while you were there?

Does anyone have experience with this one? Did she used to work somewhere else before?

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OK guys, I just need let you know of a scam. Tiana of Salt Lake asked for a deposit and then just runs take your money. I gave a deposit then she said she didn't want cash she wanted it all up front. Should have know it was a some kind of scam to begin with. Well live and learn. Be careful guys their is another girl in Salt Lake area that flaking as well. Safe mongering.

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Spa Queen Waikiki, the semi-standalone shop located between CC and CC, was replaced apparently last month by Lindon Msg. The manager is a Lin Youjun. It doesn't look like it's doing anything as the drapes are all closed. Anyone with intel on what's going on here?

The shop next door, Hawaii Hot Stone, looks like it's back in business and is running specials, like a 120-min massage for $100. The lights were on, but I didn't see anyone inside.