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[QUOTE=MassErrection;6031026]I wonder if business was slow or busted. Same thing happened to Hudson massage, they opened a new building for short time then closed.[/QUOTE]Speaking of places getting busted. Have you ever wondered why LE puts in so much time and resources to catch a worker giving a HE? Sometimes it's like a 6-month stakeout and investigation involving multiple agencies.
If city officials want to shut down AMPs. There might be an easier way. Labor law violations. Most owners treat the workers as independent contractors rather than employees. In most states is pretty unlikely the workers have enough control over their work to qualify as independent contractors. The workers might get 1099 for like ten percent of their actual income, and get paid in cash for the remainder. Then the cash goes into a safety deposit box.
So when the Labor Department concludes the workers are employees, the owner has to pay FICA and overtime on both prior and future compensation. And both the owner's and employee's tax returns get audited. Both the owners and workers are out a shit ton of money in this case.
A Labor Law violation is quick and easy to prove, and the owners and workers would fear this as much or more as getting charged with prostitution.
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Unit
[QUOTE=JoeMaleMpls;6030747]So I touched on this topic before when I said everyone's experience can be different. The size of your crank may or may not matter depends on the provider and what they normally provided. If your going to a place that is a sure thing then it won't matter at all. So if your going to an independent provider the experience is included in the price. However I will say if they find you attractive the menu can open up and the business like attitude can drop. Now if your going to a place that's is maybe "legit" but she likes you, you might be able to score some extras. But these type of experiences can be hard to find. Not sure if this was helpful? If you want a sure thing review through about 10-15 pages here bring a tip and make sure you don't come off like a cop or someone who has never been there.[/QUOTE]This a topic I kept in the back of my head. I have had 4 AMP's comment on the size of my unit, as I am above average size. Have anyone else gotten comments on their size?
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[QUOTE=BBQ21;6031725]Speaking of places getting busted. Have you ever wondered why LE puts in so much time and resources to catch a worker giving a HE? Sometimes it's like a 6-month stakeout and investigation involving multiple agencies.
If city officials want to shut down AMPs. There might be an easier way. Labor law violations. Most owners treat the workers as independent contractors rather than employees. In most states is pretty unlikely the workers have enough control over their work to qualify as independent contractors. The workers might get 1099 for like ten percent of their actual income, and get paid in cash for the remainder. Then the cash goes into a safety deposit box.
So when the Labor Department concludes the workers are employees, the owner has to pay FICA and overtime on both prior and future compensation. And both the owner's and employee's tax returns get audited. Both the owners and workers are out a shit ton of money in this case.
A Labor Law violation is quick and easy to prove, and the owners and workers would fear this as much or more as getting charged with prostitution.[/QUOTE]Any amount of effort to shut down AMPs, except to spot-check for evidence of trafficking, is a complete waste of resources. I have no problem with LE keeping an eye out for trafficking, but other enforcement activities are just making things worse for everyone involved.
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Question
Do you always put the towel on for when the girl comes back into the room? I decided to be confident and go to a place down the street from me today. The girl left the room, I undressed, and laid down on the towel instead of covering my ass. She didn't seem to mind and rubbed my ass a bit. Though when I flipped she did cover me and make a comment about it. I didn't want to make anything awkward so I just accepted it.
I was just wondering if everyone always covers or if not covering has better chance of HE in experience.
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Towel
[QUOTE=Poogs;6032200]Do you always put the towel on for when the girl comes back into the room? I decided to be confident and go to a place down the street from me today. The girl left the room, I undressed, and laid down on the towel instead of covering my ass. She didn't seem to mind and rubbed my ass a bit. Though when I flipped she did cover me and make a comment about it. I didn't want to make anything awkward so I just accepted it.
I was just wondering if everyone always covers or if not covering has better chance of HE in experience.[/QUOTE]I usually just half ass the towel and let her decide if she needs it during face down. I always intentionally let it fall off on the flip. If I get a comment I'll just say no trouble from me or whatever and try to read the room. Usually we just go straight into HE but some places are different. One joint by me does the thing where they put their hand into yours and you move it south of the border. Really depends on the provider. Going no cover to start is a great way to sort of send a message that you're not a square.
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New to area
Hi everyone, I just moved here and looking for good AMPs. I can offer some good East Coast places in exchange. Feel free to DM me, thanks!
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[QUOTE=Poogs;6032200]Do you always put the towel on for when the girl comes back into the room? I decided to be confident and go to a place down the street from me today. The girl left the room, I undressed, and laid down on the towel instead of covering my ass. She didn't seem to mind and rubbed my ass a bit. Though when I flipped she did cover me and make a comment about it. I didn't want to make anything awkward so I just accepted it.
I was just wondering if everyone always covers or if not covering has better chance of HE in experience.[/QUOTE]Never cover! If she covers you tell her it's to hot or the fabric irritates you. If she refuses, leave and ask for money back.
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[QUOTE=MitchP4735;6030774]I've noticed that body relaxation is kinda hard to get into. I just tried scheduling something for Sunday but they are booked I guess.[/QUOTE]Body relaxation is a mix of the Russian girls who probably started with Olga, who was the first / most successful of the Russian crew. She started over ten years ago and might have given some HEs back in the day but pretty quickly went to tease only and eventually to not even DIY. She recruited several others (eastern Europe but mostly Russia / Ukraine) who've advertised on her page /# over the years. She's had her own practice for several years but has gone completely legit.
Body Relaxation studio has changed names / numbers but I think has two main providers. Nicole and Elizabeth. Both are attractive but I haven't heard of anyone getting more than a tease at best, not even DIY.
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[QUOTE=CarpMaster;6031869]This a topic I kept in the back of my head. I have had 4 AMP's comment on the size of my unit, as I am above average size. Have anyone else gotten comments on their size?[/QUOTE]90% of the time they'll exaggerate / compliment in the hopes of you returning and tipping more. I've had a few who just clearly liked dicks and were quite playful but they are rare and never stay in MN long. The place on Horizon Ave in Eagan had one very average 50 ish provider who loved to tease. Once when she didn't watch the clock and had a customer waiting she just deep throated me to finish me quickly. She moved to California a few weeks later. That place is / was sooo hit or miss.
Being bigger can help if they like you and if they're size queens (more likely with indy providers) but it can also backfire, especially if you take longer to finish as FS girls don't want to get wrecked / sore and will try to get you off quicker. I avoid FS AMPs when traveling. Too many fake tits and poor attitudes.
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[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;6032727]90% of the time they'll exaggerate / compliment in the hopes of you returning and tipping more. I've had a few who just clearly liked dicks and were quite playful but they are rare and never stay in MN long. The place on Horizon Ave in Eagan had one very average 50 ish provider who loved to tease. Once when she didn't watch the clock and had a customer waiting she just deep throated me to finish me quickly. She moved to California a few weeks later. That place is / was sooo hit or miss.
Being bigger can help if they like you and if they're size queens (more likely with indy providers) but it can also backfire, especially if you take longer to finish as FS girls don't want to get wrecked / sore and will try to get you off quicker. I avoid FS AMPs when traveling. Too many fake tits and poor attitudes.[/QUOTE]Ha! That was Jenny! She left few years ago but never deep throated me. She had a kid in the room next door playing so I would never do that with her.
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[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;6032721]Body relaxation is a mix of the Russian girls who probably started with Olga, who was the first / most successful of the Russian crew. She started over ten years ago and might have given some HEs back in the day but pretty quickly went to tease only and eventually to not even DIY. She recruited several others (eastern Europe but mostly Russia / Ukraine) who've advertised on her page /# over the years. She's had her own practice for several years but has gone completely legit.
Body Relaxation studio has changed names / numbers but I think has two main providers. Nicole and Elizabeth. Both are attractive but I haven't heard of anyone getting more than a tease at best, not even DIY.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that is good information. Eastern European ladies really turn me on but sadly no AMP options here in the Cities.
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[QUOTE=BBQ21;6032905]Thanks, that is good information. Eastern European ladies really turn me on but sadly no AMP options here in the Cities.[/QUOTE]The best Eastern European women are going to be escorts or sensual massage providor. Lina is Eastern European and posts on mn erotica, adult search. You need screening, however she's well worth it.
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Heavenly then Trudy
It has been a couple years since I tried heavenly in Eagan. My memory was that the providers were not so bad looking and the table shower was nice. Things seem to have changed. The provider wasn't bad looking. Massage was above average and when you ask for "hard" you get it. I asked and they don't do table shower anymore. Zero hints of extras, which did not surprise me. Actually had my appt run over time a little too. In the end, I won't repeat unless mgmt changes because if I want a good massage there are better places for that.
The experience did leave me wanting a finish though so I ran across 77 to Trudy for a 30 min quickie. My god I'm dumb. 50 for half an hour from an old lady with a somewhat rushed finish that tbh I had a tough time even getting hard for. She got me dressed after and stood there waiting for the tip. I gave her 40 and she asked for 10 more. I gave her a 5 and said that's all I got and walked out for what I expect will be the last time ever. I don't know how they pay the rent at that shithole. I tend to be generous with the ladies and figure an extra 10 here or there doesn't hurt me as much as it helps them, but a tip as big as the house fee? GTFO.
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Had a great experience
So I decided to go out today to a place I had seen while driving. It was walk in and was the nicest out of the few I've been to. The lady looked like she was in her 40's, she was petite, had big boobs and a nice ass. She wore a mask the entire massage so I didn't see her face.
I asked the other day if I should leave the towel off and so I gave that a shot. When she came in she covered me with a full sheet, I said hey it's a little hot today could we not use that? She said absolutely and took it off. She did an amazing job on my back, shoulders, butt and legs. I let my hands go towards the side of the table naturally to brush her leg.
Sudden I started noticing she was letting my hand rest in her leg and purposefully standing there so I was making contact. So anyway the massage is going great and it's time to do the flip. She asks if I'm still hot and I said yeah so she didn't cover me up on the flip. She offered to turn the lights down and she started rubbing my stomach and legs.
So I was enjoying my time while she was rubbing me and she grabbed my balls and started rubbing them with both of her hands, she stopped and asked if that was fine and I said absolutely. She bent over and her boob touched my open hand and she was like "oh don't worry I like them being played with". So immediately I felt like I needed to make sure she was comfortable because a lot was happening at once. My expectations were that she would be sort of robotic but I genuinely think she was into me. She was very sweet to me after I asked if she was sure she was fine with all this, even holding my face and saying I was cute.
In the middle of HE the door rang and she left for a second to tell them she was busy. She came back to the room and kept working on my balls and the rest of my junk without oil. Then she turned around and lifted her damn shirt up and asked me to undo her bra, then she got oil, popped a tit out for me and literally said "suck this while I help you out".
I ended up busting extra large because it was like 10 minutes of extended foreplay. Right before I did I let her know and she turned towards my lower half, she ended up with stuff on her breasts. I will 1000% be returning home girl have me her name and number, nice having a mommy hahaha.
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Willernie
Anyone been to the spot in Willernie that is often advertised?