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[QUOTE=Sacramento;2853703]One more. She said she's going to be moving out the state some catch her while you can.[/QUOTE]
Hey, how about some contact info or where she can be found? Times she's out?
Damages? Menu? Really "anything?" Does that mean she's bbfs? I'm just sayin'
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2853832]Hey, how about some contact info or where she can be found? Times she's out?
Damages? Menu? Really "anything?" Does that mean she's bbfs? I'm just sayin'[/QUOTE]Yea BBFS. She was on Kensington walking towards Lehigh about to cross street walking towards Somerset. Time it was afternoon 3 ish. She said she moving out of state end of April.
Has any body seen Lexi or Aundra (AKA Renee) recently? Heard there.
On vacation up at state road. If so any info would help so I could.
Send them some gifts would be great.
Philly Guy.
Was out in aramingo meeting some people decided to hit K And see what was out there after around 4. Met Nicole on K and ontario. Thin blonde about 6/10. Picked her up and she was paranoid the drive to a place she knows. Bbjcim was offered and didn't want to do FS during that time. Damage 3 but got her number and will definitely see her for FS next time.
So I drove along the Kensington for the first time today from around 6-7 didn't see anyone or at least not that I noticed.
Of course I was slightly preoccupied with the driving aspect of it all. I may try again in the near future.
Not as exciting as your guys posts but there you are.
Took a stroll down the K earlier tonight. Saw a brunette named Kristi walking towards Lehigh. About 5'7/5'8. Nice body. Thin. About be cups. I made eye contact and then drove down the K till I turned off a couple of streets after Lehigh. She crossed Lehigh and looked down the alley and saw my car. Got in. Exchanged pleasantries. Did LEO check. Proceeded to a spot of hers off the track. BBBJ at. 3. Then off into the wild world. Didn't get digits or anything. She lost her phone so she's working on getting numbers back. Lots of LEO out (per usual on a sat. Night). If you plan on taking a stroll, be careful out there. Stay safe, fellow mongers.
[QUOTE=NikkiNine;2867644]So I drove along the Kensington for the first time today from around 6-7 didn't see anyone or at least not that I noticed.
Of course I was slightly preoccupied with the driving aspect of it all. I may try again in the near future.
Not as exciting as your guys posts but there you are.[/QUOTE]Hey, hate to sound harsh. But good mongering looks easy, consistent safe mongering is anything but easy?
Have you read and memorized the 22 Rules?
Have you internalized the strategies for dealing with LE as laid out in the first 20-minutes of the "Busted: A citizen's Guide to. " video?
When I started out, I drove the strolls for several months to get my eye trained, understand the traffic and figure out where LE was likely "hiding. " Anything worth doing takes a little time to learn. Can you take short cuts? Sure! But ignorance (lack of education) and thinking with the little head aren't good ways in my opinion of managing the risk of this hobby. Many don't heed the advice others would give here and many wander through the Court System too!
So have patience with yourself as you learn the traffic patterns, learn how to spot the girls, learn how to find LE, learn how to get the look, learn how to scoop a girl.
Good luck & stay safe!
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2869392]Hey, hate to sound harsh. But good mongering looks easy, consistent safe mongering is anything but easy?
Have you read and memorized the 22 Rules?
Have you internalized the strategies for dealing with LE as laid out in the first 20-minutes of the "Busted: A citizen's Guide to. " video?
When I started out, I drove the strolls for several months to get my eye trained, understand the traffic and figure out where LE was likely "hiding. " Anything worth doing takes a little time to learn. Can you take short cuts? Sure! But ignorance (lack of education) and thinking with the little head aren't good ways in my opinion of managing the risk of this hobby. Many don't heed the advice others would give here and many wander through the Court System too!
So have patience with yourself as you learn the traffic patterns, learn how to spot the girls, learn how to find LE, learn how to get the look, learn how to scoop a girl.Good luck & stay safe![/QUOTE]
That's some excellent advice from someone that knows his way to the candy store and back home again without getting into any trouble.
It is the guys like CL that have done it all and seen it all that you will learn the most from. These are the guys that have cut through all the underbrush and found the rose. Seriously.
Sometimes I myself will go home empty handed. That's a choice I make. Because every and I mean every time I hit the asphalt jungle I do see some girls. They aren't all jumping up and down saying here I am. There is a fair share of those out there also. So they are there. Girls you may think don't even know what a monger is are sometimes your best bet. One needs to find their own comfort zone in which to work. Finding out what works for them and sticking with it is the best way to find and get girls. Watch whats going on with others that are doing what you are doing. Whether they make mistakes and what the consequences might be.
Not bragging, but I constantly get asked where I find the girls I do. It's because I don't get intimidated with my approach. As some of you know I am handicapped. If I told the rest of you what my handicap is you wouldn't believe that I still get almost any girl I want. So, truth be told, if I can do it so can you. Never be afraid to get shot down. There are worse things that can happen. Especially down the way.
As CL says above, have patients, learn from your mistakes. Go with the flow and lay low. Hang loose and be full of juice.
It has been my constant habit when driving the Ave to scan the sidewalks and upcoming streets about 4-5 cars ahead. Yes I try to be mindful of my immediate surroundings. But if you train your eyes to scan ahead there are a few benefits. First you see what interests you before you are right on top of her. Also mentally you can pull off to the side without causing an accident or a scene. I don't know how many times I've been driving on the Ave and someone right in front of me sees the same girl I see. He goes ass over teakettle to pull over. Making it totally obvious what he's doing. Usually the girl sees the blatant approach and knows if there is LEO close by. If there is she won't even bother with him. I've also seen LEO pull right in behind stops like that and then the guy has a compounded problem.
This is just my way of doing a nonchalant stop. First thing after I stop I cut the lights. I keep my dome light in the off position always. That way if LEO is down the street he can't see if my vehicle door opens. Then I take my phone out and immediately place a text to my second phone. I wont get a response. So I immediately follow it up with this text. Hey Ralph, tried to roust you tonight. Guess you are busy. TTYL. That way if I am approached by LEO I can prove I stopped to place a phone text. Perfectly legal. There are many things one can do to remain safe. One never knows how important this advice is until they need to use it. The biggest thing and most important is to remain alert. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Yeah for me the roads and driving are going to take a while to develop its not exactly covered in the DMV book.
Also yeah I've got the 22 rules and flexyourrights also Gator texting your second phone smart I would never have thought of that.
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Also yeah I've got the 22 rules and flexyourrights also Gator texting your second phone smart I would never have thought of that.[/QUOTE]Glad you have those two resources under your belt! When I say INTERNALIZE the Flex Your Rights stuff I mean have it cold so it is second nature. When stopped with a girl or under pressure is no time to try to recall any technique.
Second, kudos to you for posting here and being willing to learn. As Gator demonstrates, there is a lot of knowledge around these parts, so don't be afraid to ask questions about techniques.
I know when I started, and was in my "learning phase" (driving & looking & NOT scooping) I came to these boards and asked a BUNCH of dumb rookie questions. One of the reasons I post advice is to payback all of that kindness that helped me as a pup.
So good luck and you learn! Stay safe.
I had met this girl first off backpage (she is the girl in the pics) just not as refined in real life as her pics. I think she has slipped a little but is still a nice find. Then I also found her walking as well on the street that runs parallel to Kensington (I think its Jasper). Initial fee when I met her off BP was 60 for 30 minutes. Then when I picked her up off the street it was a down and dirty 20 for bbjcim with spit. However, she took me back to her place each time, where her mom lives. She has a nice body, small a cup tits and nice ass. I did see her a third time and she is still fun to see. [URL]http://philadelphia.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/white-female/29814457[/URL] This is her latest ad. In the pics, she is very sweet, in real life she is not as kept up. I will see her again as she is fun but I am not a fan of going into her place as her moms boyfriends were there and I was not expecting that the third time I saw her but at least I was not in my car having fun. I think her real name is Nicole. This dream happened this past weekend and prior. Sorry for not reporting timely . Anyone else see her before?
[QUOTE=JamesGlia;2874196]I had met this girl first off backpage (she is the girl in the pics) just not as refined in real life as her pics. I think she has slipped a little but is still a nice find. Then I also found her walking as well on the street that runs parallel to Kensington (I think its Jasper). Initial fee when I met her off BP was 60 for 30 minutes. Then when I picked her up off the street it was a down and dirty 20 for bbjcim with spit. However, she took me back to her place each time, where her mom lives. She has a nice body, small a cup tits and nice ass. I did see her a third time and she is still fun to see. [URL]http://philadelphia.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/white-female/29814457[/URL] This is her latest ad. In the pics, she is very sweet, in real life she is not as kept up. I will see her again as she is fun but I am not a fan of going into her place as her moms boyfriends were there and I was not expecting that the third time I saw her but at least I was not in my car having fun. I think her real name is Nicole. This dream happened this past weekend and prior. Sorry for not reporting timely . Anyone else see her before?[/QUOTE]Good for you! You found a girl on the street and instead of paying BP rates, paid street rates!
Now that said. I guess I have been around this game too long, but looking at those pictures I would have pegged that girl as a SW from the get-go. She just has that "look." Would not be surprised if she isn't in CJ's gallery either.
But hey that is the game, some dude sees a girl on the street has a nice time with her, and tells her she doesn't charge enough and should go on BP. Of course then he never sees the girl again, after her has scr*wed over his fellow mongers.
Hey, did you a favor, here is her BP advert and a pic. This will preserve her in the record her in case the BP advert gets taken down. Perhaps others will recognize her?
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2874481]Good for you! You found a girl on the street and instead of paying BP rates, paid street rates!
Now that said. I guess I have been around this game too long, but looking at those pictures I would have pegged that girl as a SW from the get-go. She just has that "look." Would not be surprised if she isn't in CJ's gallery either.
But hey that is the game, some dude sees a girl on the street has a nice time with her, and tells her she doesn't charge enough and should go on BP. Of course then he never sees the girl again, after her has scr*wed over his fellow mongers.
Hey, did you a favor, here is her BP advert and a pic. This will preserve her in the record her in case the BP advert gets taken down. Perhaps others will recognize her?[/QUOTE]Of course Cooky did a shoot with her. Her name is Nikki on the street. She's a very nice girl. I have not been with her Though. CookyJar did her pics not to long ago. I would say probably around September or October of this past year. It's good to see guys getting out there and handling their own affairs.
So now on to bigger and better adventures. Good job. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Her addiction in high gear, keep a hand on your wallet!
[QUOTE=JamesGlia;2874196]I had met this girl first off backpage (she is the girl in the pics) just not as refined in real life as her pics. I think she has slipped a little but is still a nice find. Then I also found her walking as well on the street that runs parallel to Kensington (I think its Jasper). Initial fee when I met her off BP was 60 for 30 minutes. Then when I picked her up off the street it was a down and dirty 20 for bbjcim with spit. However, she took me back to her place each time, where her mom lives. She has a nice body, small a cup tits and nice ass. I did see her a third time and she is still fun to see. [URL]http://philadelphia.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/white-female/29814457[/URL] This is her latest ad. In the pics, she is very sweet, in real life she is not as kept up. I will see her again as she is fun but I am not a fan of going into her place as her moms boyfriends were there and I was not expecting that the third time I saw her but at least I was not in my car having fun. I think her real name is Nicole. This dream happened this past weekend and prior. Sorry for not reporting timely . Anyone else see her before?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bond007;2874623]Her addiction in high gear, keep a hand on your wallet![/QUOTE]I did try to be as careful as possible and I could see a real difference in her and that was only about after a 4 week period. In fact, the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event. That is the first time someone did that in front of me, freaked me out but I could not leave. The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from. Does the mom work the crowd too? There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact. I would agree, her addiction is more rampant and that is just based on her change in appearance and change in her disregard for the money she would take.
[QUOTE=Bond007;2874623]Her addiction in high gear, keep a hand on your wallet![/QUOTE]EXACTLY! Rules #17 and #18 should be ingrained in every monger.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=MongeringRules[/URL]
[QUOTE=JamesGlia;2875071]I did try to be as careful as possible and I could see a real difference in her and that was only about after a 4 week period. In fact, the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event. That is the first time someone did that in front of me, freaked me out but I could not leave. The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from. Does the mom work the crowd too? There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact. I would agree, her addiction is more rampant and that is just based on her change in appearance and change in her disregard for the money she would take.[/QUOTE]
Hey, thanks for the report! I dunno dude, some of the things you state are such that I would NEVER seek her out if this is the case. But several things here are instructive as ways to look at risk, so no offense intended - just some comments.
[I]the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event[/I]
Eh, this is bad but NOT totally fatal. However, if you gave her money up front so she could get her drugs, then that is a problem. I have done that before and the girl disappears, never to return. I would NEVER allow a girl to buy dope (or any drugs) in my presence. Period. Drug charges are felonies that don't go away easily and being there puts you at risk of getting arrested too. Doesn't matter if you didn't hand any money to a dealer, Cops CAN and will arrest you and let the courts sort it out. That amigo is just too risky for me personally.
[I]The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from.[/I]
WTF! For me this is a [b][color=red]BIG red flag![/color][/b] HUGE! Any time I monger I realize I am the only one able to watch my back, so I always have a free & clear escape route. I never go into a situation where there is no easy exit and if that means not doing a date, then so be it. Safety to me is more important than any nut.
[I]There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact.[/I]
OMG! Adding any dude or dudes into the mix, is for me a non-starter. A girl I can usually control, but a third party, especially a guy can mean serious trouble. But guys I can not make eye contact with? For me that is like a dog showing its belly- it demonstrates I am looking down in their presence and as such suggesting their superiority and my weakness. Now I know my limitations when it comes to street smarts, but that seems like something I wouldn't do. If I can't look a dude in the eye and give a head nod of mutual acceptance, I am out! If I had seen that I would have bounced, immediately.
So here you have two different styles of managing risk. Point is that I wasn't there, but to me it looks like more risk than I would want to take. Each monger needs to recognize potential risk and evaluate their ability to and willingness to handle situations if "things go bad. " Clearly this dude has a different risk tolerance structure than I do.
I'm just sayin'.
[i]maybe there are methods for managing the risks I noted? methods or techniques that I am missing? I'd be interested to learn anything, as we are constantly learning in this hobby.[/i]
[QUOTE=JamesGlia;2875071]I did try to be as careful as possible and I could see a real difference in her and that was only about after a 4 week period. In fact, the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event. That is the first time someone did that in front of me, freaked me out but I could not leave. The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from. Does the mom work the crowd too? There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact. I would agree, her addiction is more rampant and that is just based on her change in appearance and change in her disregard for the money she would take.[/QUOTE]Way to crazy. She has be seen seen yelling and screaming in public at others in BROAD daylight. Heavily addicted at the moment. Does BB with almost anyone. I doubt she will be on the street much longer. Stay Away.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2875184]Hey, thanks for the report! I dunno dude, some of the things you state are such that I would NEVER seek her out if this is the case. But several things here are instructive as ways to look at risk, so no offense intended - just some comments.
[I]the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event[/I]
Eh, this is bad but NOT totally fatal. However, if you gave her money up front so she could get her drugs, then that is a problem. I have done that before and the girl disappears, never to return. I would NEVER allow a girl to buy dope (or any drugs) in my presence. Period. Drug charges are felonies that don't go away easily and being there puts you at risk of getting arrested too. Doesn't matter if you didn't hand any money to a dealer, Cops CAN and will arrest you and let the courts sort it out. That amigo is just too risky for me personally.
[I]The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from.[/I]
WTF! For me this is a [b]BIG red flag![/b] HUGE! Any time I monger I realize I am the only one able to watch my back, so I always have a free & clear escape route. I never go into a situation where there is no easy exit and if that means not doing a date, then so be it. Safety to me is more important than any nut.
[I]There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact.[/I]
OMG! Adding any dude or dudes into the mix, is for me a non-starter. A girl I can usually control, but a third party, especially a guy can mean serious trouble. But guys I can not make eye contact with? For me that is like a dog showing its belly- it demonstrates I am looking down in their presence and as such suggesting their superiority and my weakness. Now I know my limitations when it comes to street smarts, but that seems like something I wouldn't do. If I can't look a dude in the eye and give a head nod of mutual acceptance, I am out! If I had seen that I would have bounced, immediately.
So here you have two different styles of managing risk. Point is that I wasn't there, but to me it looks like more risk than I would want to take. Each monger needs to recognize potential risk and evaluate their ability to and willingness to handle situations if "things go bad. " Clearly this dude has a different risk tolerance structure than I do.
I'm just sayin'.
[i]maybe there are methods for managing the risks I noted? methods or techniques that I am missing? I'd be interested to learn anything, as we are constantly learning in this hobby.[/i][/QUOTE]Now that I read all your comments, I am thinking to myself. WTF was I thinking. I clearly was just wanting to get off but screwed up in more ways than 1. I still feel new to this and I know I probably got caught up in the moment because the third time, she was not my intention, she was a hopeful fallback. I don't know the area well but was looking for the punk rock gal, after about 45 minutes of not finding her, or really anyone and seeing way too many LEO's. I texted Nikki. She was ready, I was a few minutes away and needed some relief but I did totally screw up on many fronts. IN FACT, her location is really a trap of all traps if anyone has ever been there. I guess if I meet her again, I will ask for car fun and see if she obliges. She told me she already had a paid vacation of sorts so maybe she does not want to go away again. I appreciate your comments, it has awakened me to my stupidity.
This is just a heads up. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100359&d=1274234400[/URL].
If the link doesn't work go to Rip Off Reports. Look for Danielle. There's only 8 photos there so she will be easy to find.
Any way she's back in the area. I personally have not had any issues with her. Others here have. I dated her a few years ago.
So when there's a ripoff report I say to myself why risk it.
She doesn't look the same as she's a bit older now. But a real hard look will tell you its her. My thought is old habits die hard.
She's back working the same area she worked a way back when. Tioga up to Venango and then up to Sedgeley. Maybe there's other guys here that remember her and can enlighten the rest of us
just what her issues are.
No matter be forewarned that this girl has history with many here. My advice would be to leave this one alone.
Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator
I've been reading the post on this site and have learned a LOT. I still have a lot of questions and will continue to read and learn. I've been more of a Strip club monger-er (sp?) than a BP or a SW one, although I've tired them both.
The #22 rules are extremely helpful. But not as much as the personal stories, good or bad. So Thank You for all the knowledge and help gents.
And if I've learned one thing, it's that I've definitely been over paying. I've been gone for about a year, has anyone seen a girl name Rachel recent? I will post an attachment later.
[QUOTE=JamesGlia;2875264]Now that I read all your comments, I am thinking to myself. WTF was I thinking. I clearly was just wanting to get off but screwed up in more ways than 1. I still feel new to this and I know I probably got caught up in the moment because the third time, she was not my intention, she was a hopeful fallback. I don't know the area well but was looking for the punk rock gal, after about 45 minutes of not finding her, or really anyone and seeing way too many LEO's. I texted Nikki. She was ready, I was a few minutes away and needed some relief but I did totally screw up on many fronts. IN FACT, her location is really a trap of all traps if anyone has ever been there. I guess if I meet her again, I will ask for car fun and see if she obliges. She told me she already had a paid vacation of sorts so maybe she does not want to go away again. I appreciate your comments, it has awakened me to my stupidity.[/QUOTE]LOL! I hear ya! Like I say mongering looks easy, consistently good, safe mongering is anything but easy.
But hey, glad you got the chance to learn here rather than the streets or the "school of hard knocks!" It is tough to learn how to hold the little head back until the Big head is satisfied. I guess a few dangerous experiences helped train me in that regard. But like Gator145, every time I go out, I don't always make a connection. Sometimes the menu is bare and sometimes the risk too high. But I have learned it is better to go home frustrated, rather than going home frustrated and hurt, ripped off or with a Court case.
Keep reading and studying and LEARNING about mongering. Share your experiences and ask questions if you want!
Stay safe!
[QUOTE=SoulProvider;2875628]I've been reading the post on this site and have learned a LOT. I still have a lot of questions and will continue to read and learn. I've been more of a Strip club monger-er (sp?) than a BP or a SW one, although I've tired them both.
The #22 rules are extremely helpful. But not as much as the personal stories, good or bad. So Thank You for all the knowledge and help gents.
And if I've learned one thing, it's that I've definitely been over paying. I've been gone for about a year, has anyone seen a girl name Rachel recent? I will post an attachment later.[/QUOTE]Now which of the three Rachels that work out there are you referring to. The one that works Letterly the punk rockin little bundle of fun or the other one? Just asking so I can maybe assist. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
Today I met a hispanic girl named Sabrina on the K. She is about 5'4 with blue highlights in here hair. As we were on our date, she was able to rob me of my wallet and almost my cell phone. The only was I was able to retrieve my cell phone because it drop from the side. I didn't notice my wallet until 20 min after I left the area. Even though I read the forums about roaming hands, I was not paying attention. I had it good for so long, that I let my guard down.
Yeah the punk rocker. Different color hair. I had a dream about her about 12 months ago, but since then she always has a new number. I'm my dream, I got one of the best BBBJCIM I've ever had. She had to spit 3 times.
My bad, Gator. I just read this post after I reported. I will make sure to review and ask questions as much as I can.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?8819-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=2873927&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2873927.
I am going to second Gator's recommendation to stay clear of this one. I put up my report in the ripoff section.
[QUOTE=Gator145;2875326]This is just a heads up. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=100359&d=1274234400[/URL].
If the link doesn't work go to Rip Off Reports. Look for Danielle. There's only 8 photos there so she will be easy to find.
Any way she's back in the area. I personally have not had any issues with her. Others here have. I dated her a few years ago.
So when there's a ripoff report I say to myself why risk it.
She doesn't look the same as she's a bit older now. But a real hard look will tell you its her. My thought is old habits die hard.
She's back working the same area she worked a way back when. Tioga up to Venango and then up to Sedgeley. Maybe there's other guys here that remember her and can enlighten the rest of us
just what her issues are.
No matter be forewarned that this girl has history with many here. My advice would be to leave this one alone.
Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator[/QUOTE]
I almost always when asked for the money up front, have provided the $$ up front, with the few exceptions where I bailed. I even bailed after providing the money and did not feel safe. Most girls I have met, ask for it in advance. Am I doing the wrong thing? Should I not be giving it up front. I read the rules again but there is no explicit answer. Again, not sure what the right or wrong thing is to do here. Some girls don't ask and I obviously provided at the end of our experience together but the ones that ask, I have given it in advance. Some thoughts / suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.
Typically, I will just say "Oh, no, sorry. I don't pay in advance. Got beat too many times, sorry. I am just going to drop you back off". Usually after that, they will either agree, or say "Can you at least give me half up front" or "Can I at least see the money so I know you have it". I have never had a girl agree to be dropped back off once they are in the car. If the girl is hot, then I have caved in and given half up front. With Danielle, this was the very first time I gave all up front and it was only because I had seen her twice before and had her number. Live and Learn.
[QUOTE=JamesGlia;2876802]I almost always when asked for the money up front, have provided the $$ up front, with the few exceptions where I bailed. I even bailed after providing the money and did not feel safe. Most girls I have met, ask for it in advance. Am I doing the wrong thing? Should I not be giving it up front. I read the rules again but there is no explicit answer. Again, not sure what the right or wrong thing is to do here. Some girls don't ask and I obviously provided at the end of our experience together but the ones that ask, I have given it in advance. Some thoughts / suggestions would be helpful. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Recently been in touch with the little minx. She's said I could share her digits "yes, now, asap, plez" senior members let me know.
Anybody here knows what happened to Heather who hangs around Clearfield? I have tried her phone but she never responded. Does anybody knows if she's still around?
[QUOTE=JCM2767;2879827]Anybody here knows what happened to Heather who hangs around Clearfield? I have tried her phone but she never responded. Does anybody knows if she's still around?[/QUOTE]Is this heather you talking about. Aka Christina. She has been my atf And regular. I see her pretty much couple times every week. She is Very clean and beautiful. Nice attitude and well educated. Date is always great. Once she gets to know you and gets more comfortable, She would do anal Or bareback with you. She is an utr Girl.
[QUOTE=Mackeral1;2876961]Typically, I will just say "Oh, no, sorry. I don't pay in advance. Got beat too many times, sorry. I am just going to drop you back off". Usually after that, they will either agree, or say "Can you at least give me half up front" or "Can I at least see the money so I know you have it". I have never had a girl agree to be dropped back off once they are in the car. If the girl is hot, then I have caved in and given half up front. With Danielle, this was the very first time I gave all up front and it was only because I had seen her twice before and had her number. Live and Learn.[/QUOTE]
A lot of the advice in Rule #23 for BP Dating (Post #8) can be used in the SW situation. The "how to" (post #11) gives technique ideas.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13919-My-Suggestions.-Rules-For-BackPage[/url]
The other idea, which I learned from FbTom, was the "rule of 5 ths" - give the girl one fifth of the fee upfront and at each step, if she seems hesitant. So if you agreed to a $50 poetry reading, then start her off with $10. Then when she's in the room or in the back seat another 1/5th. Or perhaps when she is naked the second 1/5th. That way if she bolts on you, your loss is minimal and you give her incentive to follow through with the date.
But, NEVER be so worked up that you aren't willing to walk away from a date! Sometimes that is the best move. $5 usually gets them out of your car, if need be.
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The other idea, which I learned from FbTom, was the "rule of 5 ths" - give the girl one fifth of the fee upfront and at each step, if she seems hesitant. So if you agreed to a $50 poetry reading, then start her off with $10. Then when she's in the room or in the back seat another 1/5th. Or perhaps when she is naked the second 1/5th. That way if she bolts on you, your loss is minimal and you give her incentive to follow through with the date.
[/QUOTE]I really like that idea. It seems like a great way to establish trust with the SW. Plus if the girl doesn't want to appear as if she I'd going to rip you off she will most likely agree to it.
Most working girls I see are spinners, not really my type. I understand most girls have a "habit", but are there bigger girls that will read my poetry?
It's been a while since I met up with Shaina. I think CJ did a picture spread on her a while ago. We met near the steak place on Lehigh, drove to a pretty good spot and proceeded to start a BBBJ.
Unfortunately due to too many people walking / driving by, the act couldn't be completed.
She did say she's been away for a little while. Mentioned having a kid about a year or so ago and dealing with some medicinal issues.
Shaina still looks pretty good. For what I experienced before the interruptions, her game is still good too.
So, I was out and about on the K last night and on Jasper, north of Huntingdon, ran into Jackie, a blond WSW. Fairly pretty face, pretty sure she's been reviewed here before. She agreed to. 30 for a BBBJ, so we went to a discreet spot. On the way, she was nodding a little, so I was already writing this one off. She perked up when we got there, and gave me a decent BBBJ but toward the end her effort was pretty half-assed, complaining I was big, etc. , and dodging at the critical moment. I was disinclined to give her a tip as she asked for, so I didn't. Dropped her off at the Chinese joint just south of Somerset on the way back and instantly after doing so, noticed that my high-end vape was missing, so I turned right around, marched myself back into the Chinese joint and demanded it back. She denied taking it, but I could see it in her handbag, so I told her to walk out of the store before I got angry, which she did. She got back into the front seat. I told her I knew she had it, I could see it, and I'd be willing to give her $10 for it back since it would save me the trouble of replacing it, and if she didn't, things were going to get very bad for her very quickly. She thought it over for a sec and gave it up. I reached behind her and took out my 9 mm (which I legally carry) and told her she made a good choice, and to get out of my sight and stay there. She did so, in a hurry. Not that I was going to risk going to jail for a vaporizer, but I wanted to give her the fear of God, so to speak. So overall: Pedestrian service at best, lowlife thief. Many better options out there.
[QUOTE=GregorSamsa;2892221] noticed that my high-end vape was missing, [/QUOTE]Eh, it s*cks when that happens and it shouldn't but like Rule #17 suggests, one needs to recognize these girls have wandering hands and anything you don't want to grow legs, needs to be locked away.
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You might notice from my number of posts that I have been at this for awhile. From reading these posts, it sounds like you Philly fanatics might be having more fun than us Chicagoans. I will be in your fun city the first week of June. I noticed a couple of street names in the latest posts, but nothing really specific. Can you Philly experts help out an.
Alien monger with the best places to look? If nervous about LEO, feel free to send me a private.
[QUOTE=GregorSamsa;2892221]So, I was out and about on the K last night and on Jasper, north of Huntingdon, ran into Jackie, a blond WSW. Fairly pretty face, pretty sure she's been reviewed here before. She agreed to. 30 for a BBBJ, so we went to a discreet spot. On the way, she was nodding a little, so I was already writing this one off. She perked up when we got there, and gave me a decent BBBJ but toward the end her effort was pretty half-assed, complaining I was big, etc. , and dodging at the critical moment. I was disinclined to give her a tip as she asked for, so I didn't. Dropped her off at the Chinese joint just south of Somerset on the way back and instantly after doing so, noticed that my high-end vape was missing, so I turned right around, marched myself back into the Chinese joint and demanded it back. She denied taking it, but I could see it in her handbag, so I told her to walk out of the store before I got angry, which she did. She got back into the front seat. I told her I knew she had it, I could see it, and I'd be willing to give her $10 for it back since it would save me the trouble of replacing it, and if she didn't, things were going to get very bad for her very quickly. She thought it over for a sec and gave it up. I reached behind her and took out my 9 mm (which I legally carry) and told her she made a good choice, and to get out of my sight and stay there. She did so, in a hurry. Not that I was going to risk going to jail for a vaporizer, but I wanted to give her the fear of God, so to speak. So overall: Pedestrian service at best, lowlife thief. Many better options out there.[/QUOTE]Ok ok ok I fully understand what and why you did what you did. Do I agree with the choice you made? Not really. In fact its about the stupidest thing I've heard of since Bruce Jenners orgasm. You took a major chance pulling out your equalizer. Especially considering where you did it. Really you should know much better. You never pull it out unless you intend to use it. That damned foolish maneuver out of anger could have cost you big time. If she would have screamed or caused a scene with all the Tranny cops within spitting distance your ass could have been wet toast very quickly. You are in an area where LEO shoots first and asks questions later. Not to mention the attention you could have brought to other mongers. Again two stupid acts does not equal a smart one. Both hers and yours could have become very nasty quickly. All she had to do was call the cops and your ass would have been at 8th and Race for the night. You may have a legal paper that says you are permitted to carry, but that paper does not allow you to waive the piece around or threaten another person. Now like I said, it's agreed I would have been pissed also. A can of pepper spray or mace would have accomplished the same end with minimal incarceration or bodily injury risk. Just a thought from someone whos been there and done that. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.
[QUOTE=Ump1969;2892673]You might notice from my number of posts that I have been at this for awhile. From reading these posts, it sounds like you Philly fanatics might be having more fun than us Chicagoans. I will be in your fun city the first week of June. I noticed a couple of street names in the latest posts, but nothing really specific. Can you Philly experts help out an.
Alien monger with the best places to look? If nervous about LEO, feel free to send me a private.[/QUOTE]Well if you have been at it awhile I'm going to say I wouldn't want to be in your shoes. You see there is still something to learn. First of which is that this Site is a wonderful resource if one takes the time to avail themself of what it has to offer. (but I digress and apologize for the douchery. Can't save everyone from danger).
So if you hear some sarcasm here just know. We get guys like you 2-3 times a month. Always with their hand out. Then some kind sole helps them out and we NEVER hear anything in return Sigh.
But maybe some azzh*le will come along and point out that there are "stroll maps" for pretty much the entire USA collected all in one place! Forum > Special Interests > Amateurs > SW Maps.
But if one is so experienced then why hasn't one done what any right minded monger might do when wandering into a new area? I. e. RTFT! After all since this question has been answered at least 3 times this year one would surely see how easy it is to scroll to the bottom of the main Philly index page, find the "User Blog" section and see whole thread dedicated to the very topic one queried about? (you don't expect me to "spoon feed" you a direct link do you?)
But I just scrolled back several pages and forgot that Gator posted a L-O-N-G and detailed review of block by block where to find each girl! 6409 And you say you read the thread? Huh? I even gave clues at 6396.
If you are coming into Philly and expecting to apply nice MidWestern techniques here in one of the toughest 'hoods on the east coast, well good luck! I have lived in the Midwest and have been in Cicero and that ain't no Kensington. Hope you have the 22 Rules ingrained as well as the advice about dealing with LE in the "Busted: A Citizen's Guide To... " video as when Phillys Finest stop yer azz, it is no time to try to remember the advice. Hey, I'm just sayin'. Oh and there is some valuable discussion about ripoffs and techniques in the thread too - if anyone cares?
So now you have a free "hand-out" and some sound advice, we'll see if you bother to even acknowledge the help, let alone report back on what you found!
Good luck, stay safe!