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I usually don't negotiate the donation. Providers generally like me, and want to see me again. I explain my situation with living in Indiana and the commute out to east end and they almost always give me a little break on repeat visits. Then I usually give it back to them if session was exceptionally good. Give and take. But I think this market (Louisville) is 200 hr. Tops. That's only reason I haven't seen Amy Marie.
I will guarantee you that there are a number of married guys that are paying for it and still not getting any. LOL.
BG,
Play safe, have fun, give and get respect, do your research, get some crazy good and TPHFB.
[QUOTE=Rubtugjon;2675835]Think about it guys. How much would you charge to eat out & fuck a woman that looked like your grandmother? LOL let's face it, it's a shit job, & if these girls weren't desperate they wouldn't do it. Don't get me wrong, I, like everyone else on here are taking advantage of their situation. Seriously though when's the last time you hired a plumber or electrician? $80 a hour + truck & or fuel charges etc. & they charge for travel time. So everybody stop whining, tip heavy (like double the $80) & enjoy it. I guarantee if you're married you pay more then $80 for pussy!![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LanceAlot507;2675958]I usually don't negotiate the donation. Providers generally like me, and want to see me again. I explain my situation with living in Indiana and the commute out to east end and they almost always give me a little break on repeat visits. Then I usually give it back to them if session was exceptionally good. Give and take. But I think this market (Louisville) is 200 hr. Tops. That's only reason I haven't seen Amy Marie.[/QUOTE]I'm with you and Penrose on the donation limit. If I did make an exception to my self imposed $200 limit it would be with Lindsay the twin. I'm with you on not negotiating too, if I don't like a quote I just say thanks but no and move on. The only exception to my no negotiating rule would be with overnights which I do a lot of those. So far this year I've done 9 overnights with 6 different girls and one of those overnights being with 2 girls. Thank goodness for king size beds and my crew cab Silverado.
[QUOTE=OneSwiss;2675666]Even if it is their home they may still deduct the cost for the part of the room that is used for business.[/QUOTE]We seriously discussing taxes here?
Has anyone else been getting database error messages when trying to access this site or it my stupid IE being flaky again?
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2678985]Has anyone else been getting database error messages when trying to access this site or it my stupid IE being flaky again?[/QUOTE]But always temporary.
[QUOTE=Rubtugjon;2675835][B]Think about it guys. How much would you charge to eat out & fuck a woman that looked like your grandmother?[/B][/QUOTE]Especially if your grandmother (or any woman) was severely arthritic, diabetic, & had a huge belly!
[QUOTE=Rubtugjon;2675835][U]Let's face it, it's a shit job![/U] _ [U]I guarantee if you're married you pay more than $80 for pussy[/U]![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LanceAlot507;2675958][B][U]I usually don't negotiate the donation[/U].[/B] Providers generally like me, and want to see me again. [B]I explain my situation with living in Indiana and the commute out to east end[/B][/QUOTE]How would you feel if you lived more than a two-hour one-way drive to any city that had even one or two discreet & honest & reliable & safe {& relatively attractive!} providers? Particularly if you only had a very tight time"window" of three or four hours on only one or two weekends-per-year, & sometimes not even once some years, to schedule any provider-appointments? I think you'd be a little less judgemental & picky about rates if your "hobby"options were that limited! I know I certainly am. _ I also dislike being disparaged as "not a real hobbyist / senior" since I don't have large numbers of "current" reports\reviews to post frequently! I've been involved in this "hobby" since 1982, long before Al Gore invented the internet [B]{that's a joke, in case you're too young to recognise that reference!}[/B] as both a client & as a supportive observer & even occasionally as an assistive professional. _ sincerely: A' K'.
[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;2676605]I will guarantee you that there are a number of married guys that are paying for it and still not getting any.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2676787]I'm with you and Penrose on the donation limit. If I did make an exception to my self imposed $200 limit it would be with Lindsay the twin. I'm with you on not negotiating too, if I don't like a quote I just say thanks but no and move on. The only exception to my no negotiating rule would be with overnights which I do a lot of those. So far this year I've done 9 overnights with 6 different girls and one of those overnights being with 2 girls. Thank goodness for king size beds and my crew cab Silverado.[/QUOTE]I'm a capitalist, everything is worth what someone will pay for it. I'm also a personal capitalist, I pay for what I think its worth. There are girls I see that for whatever reason I'll pay them a buck-ten for the whole experience and if they tried to charge me a buck-thirty I'd be out the door. There are girls I pay a buck-fifty or even two if I'm getting twice as much. I can't really explain it in complete concrete terms. That's why I've tried to get better in the objectivity of my reviews, to each their own. It takes all kinds though, I have a buddy who looks half our age, makes 7 figures easy, is single and regularly bangs very, very hot chicks in their 20's. On those rare occasions when he pays for it he won't go past $100 even if it means he gets some anorexia, some teeth missing, needs a bath skank. All because that's all he'll pay. When I point out to him that sitting in some waitress' section 3 nights a week, for six weeks, tipping 150% and then taking her on a $300 night on the town isn't exactly saving money, he laughs and admits it but doesn't care or change his ways. People are funny about their pussy and their money.
That's why guys get pussy stupid.
[QUOTE=Norsem;2679354]I'm a capitalist, everything is worth what someone will pay for it. I'm also a personal capitalist, I pay for what I think its worth. There are girls I see that for whatever reason I'll pay them a buck-ten for the whole experience and if they tried to charge me a buck-thirty I'd be out the door. There are girls I pay a buck-fifty or even two if I'm getting twice as much. I can't really explain it in complete concrete terms. That's why I've tried to get better in the objectivity of my reviews, to each their own. It takes all kinds though, I have a buddy who looks half our age, makes 7 figures easy, is single and regularly bangs very, very hot chicks in their 20's. On those rare occasions when he pays for it he won't go past $100 even if it means he gets some anorexia, some teeth missing, needs a bath skank. All because that's all he'll pay. When I point out to him that sitting in some waitress' section 3 nights a week, for six weeks, tipping 150% and then taking her on a $300 night on the town isn't exactly saving money, he laughs and admits it but doesn't care or change his ways. People are funny about their pussy and their money.[/QUOTE]We have all done it, with or with out Ladies, in or out of the hobby. When it's that good it makes you PUSSY STUPID! I call it crazy good, I've seen a lot maybe nothing like LC, FF, Penrose and a few others.
That is what makes me do stupid shit, these isn't that much stuff out there this crazy good, find it and TPHFB.
BG.
I had a blast getting to know some of you guys and I have been lucky enough to meet all the ladies I desired. I am leaving the game while I am still young and able to search for the right lady. I feel that I have got the monster out me and it is time to build something long lasting. Once again you guys be safe! Admin this is a wonderful site which kept me safe and I appreciate that. Dewdirty signing out!
[QUOTE=DewDirty;2683889]I had a blast getting to know some of you guys and I have been lucky enough to meet all the ladies I desired. I am leaving the game while I am still young and able to search for the right lady. I feel that I have got the monster out me and it is time to build something long lasting. Once again you guys be safe! Admin this is a wonderful site which kept me safe and I appreciate that. Dewdirty signing out![/QUOTE]More pussy for me dude. Good luck.
I'm here for a few days anyone have any good recommendations for a outcall provider pm me please.
It's been fun!! I will miss you all very much! Thank you for the great times!! I will be moving this week and moving on to a greater adventure, fingers crossed, wish me luck xoxox 3rd time's the charm, right?!
The way I look at it you are either paying for pussy on the front end or the back end. If you have a girlfriend, wife, mistress or friends with benefits. You are spending money on them with paying mortgages, rent, utilities, buying food, car payments, dates, gifts, vacations. And ect. Lose your job and see how long your wife or girlfriend you live with continue to give you pussy. That is paying for it on the back-end. The front-end is what we guys are. Doing. Laying the money on the dresser and getting the pussy! Take a random chick out to dinner and a movie at night. It will cost you a $100 dollars or close to it. You still might not get any pussy especially if it is a first date. Unless she is a ****. So it works both ways. But most guys don't think they are paying for it on the back-end. LOL.
[QUOTE=Spoon30;2689040]I'm here for a few days anyone have any good recommendations for a outcall provider pm me please.[/QUOTE]There is a thread called [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?17548-Penrose-approved-list.[/URL] You'll find tried and true recommendations for quality providers (and ones to void as well) there.
[QUOTE=DewDirty;2683889]I had a blast getting to know some of you guys and I have been lucky enough to meet all the ladies I desired. I am leaving the game while I am still young and able to search for the right lady. I feel that I have got the monster out me and it is time to build something long lasting. Once again you guys be safe! Admin this is a wonderful site which kept me safe and I appreciate that. Dewdirty signing out![/QUOTE]Good luck bro. SMO.
[QUOTE=DewDirty;2683889]I had a blast getting to know some of you guys and I have been lucky enough to meet all the ladies I desired. I am leaving the game while I am still young and able to search for the right lady. I feel that I have got the monster out me and it is time to build something long lasting. Once again you guys be safe! Admin this is a wonderful site which kept me safe and I appreciate that. Dewdirty signing out![/QUOTE]He'll be back, three weeks tops.
[QUOTE=Zomby;2689817]Gwen is available. Her number appears elsewhere.
For those who don't like her place, she's in a hotel in Fairdale. It's smoky, but mostly cleanish.
She herself was fresh, as she has always been for me. Awfully clean elbows for H user, and yes, I know there's other spots, but she didn't appear fucked up at all.
[NOPARSE]/[/NOPARSE]z.[/QUOTE]If they are good at hiding it you won't know. I got close to one lady and she showed me some of the tricks. They sticks legs, hands, feet, just about anywhere. If there habit isn't substantial you may not see or notice it. Of course herion can be snorted or smoked as well and that is only one of many. If you think you can tell by looking at people your fooling yourself. Here is a big hint, if they are escorting or body rubbing.
[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2689935]If they are good at hiding it you won't know. I got close to one lady and she showed me some of the tricks. They sticks legs, hands, feet, just about anywhere. If there habit isn't substantial you may not see or notice it. Of course herion can be snorted or smoked as well and that is only one of many. If you think you can tell by looking at people your fooling yourself. Here is a big hint, if they are escorting or body rubbing.[/QUOTE]I've watched several friends and family members. Watched one kill himself. Saw none of the symptoms today. If she's a user, she wasn't using *then*.
Anyone remember Lux? Redhead with tattoos, worked out of the sunnyside. I remember there being mixed reviews on her. I believe she had gun tattoos on her hips or something.
New utr Wynter has made an agreement with a lucky guy so she is no longer on the market. At this time her partner Misty is not interested in seeing dudes by herself. I will not be posting any more info about them.
[QUOTE=PattyMac02;2690882]Anyone remember Lux? Redhead with tattoos, worked out of the sunnyside. I remember there being mixed reviews on her. I believe she had gun tattoos on her hips or something.[/QUOTE]I thought she was from Austin Indiana. Let me know if I'm remembering incorrectly. Just seems there is some obvious hazards with that location and proclivity to certain lifestyle choices in the last year.
I thought she was from Austin Indiana. Let me Yes. She was from Austin Indiana. She was a heroin addict. So was the father of her son. He used to sit in the livingroom while you take her to that shitty bedroom were she would suck and fuck you until your balls were drained and you could hardly walk afterwards! I remember her very well! She was one of the first Escorts on Naughty Reviews! Dude you are bringing back old memories! Lmao!
[URL]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/rush-rush-rush-i-will-scam-you-and-im-a-ripp-off/9145703[/URL]
Frankly this shit is getting old. It's like having some work person you barely know going on and on, day after day, about dropping their wallet and finding it with all their ids and credit cards but missing $80. Get over it dude. We've all probably been robbed at some point, if not literally then metaphorically. I have never seen this chick and probably never will (too small in the boobs for me) but just move on. I'm sure I'm in the minority and I know I could just ignore it but move on I say.
[QUOTE=Norsem;2692575][URL]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/rush-rush-rush-i-will-scam-you-and-im-a-ripp-off/9145703[/URL]
Frankly this shit is getting old. It's like having some work person you barely know going on and on, day after day, about dropping their wallet and finding it with all their ids and credit cards but missing $80. Get over it dude. We've all probably been robbed at some point, if not literally then metaphorically. I have never seen this chick and probably never will (too small in the boobs for me) but just move on. I'm sure I'm in the minority and I know I could just ignore it but move on I say.[/QUOTE]I've seen him posting for several months now, and she keeps posting counter ads saying she's legit now. If she really is legit, then he needs to get over it. But if she's still ripping people off, then I guess let him continue being a nut and providing a public service.
[QUOTE=Norsem;2692575][URL]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/rush-rush-rush-i-will-scam-you-and-im-a-ripp-off/9145703[/URL]
Frankly this shit is getting old. It's like having some work person you barely know going on and on, day after day, about dropping their wallet and finding it with all their ids and credit cards but missing $80. Get over it dude. We've all probably been robbed at some point, if not literally then metaphorically. I have never seen this chick and probably never will (too small in the boobs for me) but just move on. I'm sure I'm in the minority and I know I could just ignore it but move on I say.[/QUOTE]By him and her posting, it's keeping persons that don't frequent the board up to speed. I'm speaking from experience. She robbed me but yet she continues to post. I don't have the energy to keep following up on her ads that claim legitimacy. I did txt her one time and played with her. Yes she claim she is legit, but once described our event she hung up. Before the txt she claimed she never robbed anyone. So if dude wants to be persistent and campaign for her services to decline I don't mind reading it.
By the way, she will give some a decent service for a fare review and you will post to support her and that's ok too.
She has issues that won't go away. Number 1- thug bf that she says doesn't live with, but he does. Number 2- she never tells the truth, she will say anything to get money (see number 1). She learned the game from her mother.
[QUOTE=Everglide;2692714]I've seen him posting for several months now, and she keeps posting counter ads saying she's legit now. If she really is legit, then he needs to get over it. But if she's still ripping people off, then I guess let him continue being a nut and providing a public service.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LevCole;2692829]By the way, she will give some a decent service for a fare review and you will post to support her and that's ok too.[/QUOTE]So she won't rob you in exchange for a good review? Heckuva deal.
[QUOTE=Norsem;2692575][URL]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/rush-rush-rush-i-will-scam-you-and-im-a-ripp-off/9145703[/URL]
Frankly this shit is getting old. It's like having some work person you barely know going on and on, day after day, about dropping their wallet and finding it with all their ids and credit cards but missing $80. Get over it dude. We've all probably been robbed at some point, if not literally then metaphorically. I have never seen this chick and probably never will (too small in the boobs for me) but just move on. I'm sure I'm in the minority and I know I could just ignore it but move on I say.[/QUOTE]The only guys she or her mom sees is newbies, one that don't read the forum, and dumb asses. I can't believe they are still posting and making any $. Guess there's more newbies and dummies out there than I can imagine.
[QUOTE=LanceAlot507;2693094]The only guys she or her mom sees is newbies, one that don't read the forum, and dumb asses. I can't believe they are still posting and making any $. Guess there's more newbies and dummies out there than I can imagine.[/QUOTE]According to SiempreConfuso on the rip off forum, you're all just mad because J / V didn't give you what you wanted. So quit your whining and keep seeing the little darling.
Jesus, what a crock! All newbies need to know is Jasmine / Vanessa = bad time, lost money.
Which providers offer greek these days? Finances have kept me inactive of late so I have lost track. Also, any hot ebony providers offering BBBJ? Double bonus if there is a hot ebony offering both. You can PM me if you prefer.
Ok guys lets drop the subject. Geez the only reason I mentioned her was to tell you guys what I got from her. Maybe you guy's have hate for her but I don't. Shit lets talk about someone else.
Play it safe and share. Get you some turkey today.
All you OGs probably still us your PC. A lot of newbies use their cell phones. Just a FYI if you give a shit.
[QUOTE=Shinobi02;2698483]All you OGs probably still us your PC. A lot of newbies use their cell phones. Just a FYI if you give a shit.[/QUOTE]Never has good results. If there was a point you were trying to make, try again sober.
[QUOTE=Urbanwonder42;2699408]Never has good results. If there was a point you were trying to make, try again sober.[/QUOTE]I understood him just fine. He was saying some of you old school mongers may do sit down sessions at your personal computer, but the rest of us are on this site on our phones. I've only been on this site on my phone or samsung tablet. I haven't owned a desktop computer since the early 2000's. Its like a phonebook, or a video store, or a travel agent nowdays, irrelevant.
[QUOTE=BnT69;2699664]I understood him just fine. He was saying some of you old school mongers may do sit down sessions at your personal computer, but the rest of us are on this site on our phones. I've only been on this site on my phone or samsung tablet. I haven't owned a desktop computer since the early 2000's. Its like a phonebook, or a video store, or a travel agent nowdays, irrelevant.[/QUOTE]Obviously you don't watch any porn. I can just imagine you holding your cell in one hand and your dick in the other.
[QUOTE=BnT69;2699664]I understood him just fine. He was saying some of you old school mongers may do sit down sessions at your personal computer, but the rest of us are on this site on our phones. I've only been on this site on my phone or samsung tablet. I haven't owned a desktop computer since the early 2000's. Its like a phonebook, or a video store, or a travel agent nowdays, irrelevant.[/QUOTE]I probably qualify in his (and your) mind as an OG (old guy) as I am 50+ years old. In spite of that I "us"(to we in the OG crowd that translates to "use") a PC, a tablet and a smartphone. I've read his message on all three just to make certain there isn't some significant difference in the way his garbled attempt at translating his thoughts reads on the different devices. And the answer is no. WTF point is he making? And I read back through several screens worth of messages and can't find the post he is responding to or argument that he is trying to involve himself in. If that post was made while sober then I pity the poor guy. Loading and unloading trucks at UPS for a living is going to take its toll over the years. He'll have to pay for a HJ when he becomes an OG, his body will be shot by then just like his mind is now.
[QUOTE=SiempreConfuso;2699971]Obviously you don't watch any porn. I can just imagine you holding your cell in one hand and your dick in the other.[/QUOTE]I watch porn just fine, I watch it on my tablet. I only get on this site on my phone, because that is the simplest most convenient way. And the most discreet way for me.
[QUOTE=SiempreConfuso;2699971]Obviously you don't watch any porn. I can just imagine you holding your cell in one hand and your dick in the other.[/QUOTE]Especially when the dick is as small as mine! Hell I can hold my dick, the cell phone and jack off all with the same hand! It keeps my other hand free to eat my Doritos!
FF.
P.S. I do prefer watching freckled porn on my Smart TV.