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[QUOTE=Naughty Grrrrl; 1289912]Hi guys!

I just wanted to weigh in from the provider's point of view. I posted earlier this summer about spotting shady leo outfits (ill re-post below) and I just wanted to expand on this. I'm really just trying to supply information that keeps EVERYONE safe. You guys and the providers; we have to all look out for each other!

Outcall situations (when the proivder comes to you or you meet at a hotel) tend to be more risky. Leo mostly set up stings in outcall situations, particularly in hotels or with call services. Usually they don't want to waste their time busting 1 person, but a whole bunch of them at once, so they will put up an ad with professional looking pics and lure a bunch of guys to one spot at different appointment times, and then close up shop. So NEVER do a hotel if you want to be cautious! Cops have the right to arrest you for loitering if they see you leaving a hotel after an hour and can't produce a reciept of the room, let alone of what else they can arrest you for! Another problem is that some providers have "security" with outcalls, and it can lead to some sticky situations. Lastly, the provider now knows where you live if they come to you. I've heard some horror stories from some clients that is essentially massage turned into robbery and blackmailing. So it's best to look for incalls, but also be careful. I personally chose to only offer incall, but thats becuase I feel safer in my own environment and don't have reliable transportation. I also screen very well, and a good provider will know who is serious, who is a bullshit artist, and who is a troublemaker. In fact, in the 2 years I've been offering massages, I've NEVER had a problem with incall situation (hopes this doesn't jinx me! Haha) I live in a safe neighborhood, with security in my building and have a cleanly apt. I have the very pics I post in frames in my apt so theres NO DOUBT its me. If something doesn't seem right, there is nothing wrong with just leaving. I wouldn't want anyone to feel uncomfortable or "forced" into getting a massage and a good provider will respect that. I've read that if a girl greets you in clothes it is suspicious, and there may be something to that, but I have no proof or experience to justify this feeling. But I always greet in a robe (although it may be substancially less if we've seen each other a few times!) ; it's never occured to me to put on more clothes ill have to take off just to answer the door, but I may be wrong.

But here's some info that can PROTECT you regardlessly:

Its also best to NOT DISCUSS any "illegal" activities with the provider, particularly in person. Without discussing anything, you can claim complete ignorance if you get busted. (ie: "I thought a french massage was just a topless massage," etc.) most cops will try to get you to incriminate yourself in person, but if you have already discussed illegal activities (payment for sexual activities) beforehand via email, text, or phone, they can bust you when you walk in the door for intention. If someone tries to get you to talk about illegal activities (trying to get you to upgrade, talking about condoms, etc.) just LEAVE. I know its sketchy "trusting" a provider without asking how many pops, nature of massage endings, etc, but those are the breaks if you don't want to get busted. As a provider myself, I can't tell you how frusterating it is having guys repeatedly ask me incrinimating questions when I have already told them I cannot and will not answer such questions. Obviously, if the answer was "no" I would have just said "no, I don't provide endings" or whatever. But the very nature that I do not reject the idea should tell you guys that the answer is YES but I cannot say it and incriminiate myself. Do your research and know what you're asking for (whats typically included). And for the love of humanity, please cancel an appointment instead of just blowing off the provider. I actually respect it when a guy tells me the truth and am more willing to negotiate if you are honest and respectful.

Hope this helps! Feel free to PM if you have more questions. Lets keep this "industry" safe and informed!

Happy hobbying![/QUOTE]Actually in some respects, incalls can be the most dangerous for mongers. Both at hotels and at private locations, mongers are putting themselves at risk for getting ripped off or worse, robbed and physically injured. There is no way to estimate how many guys are robbed or harmed because none of is going to report these incidents to leo.

[QUOTE=JohnnyBeBad;1290182]Actually in some respects, incalls can be the most dangerous for mongers. Both at hotels and at private locations, mongers are putting themselves at risk for getting ripped off or worse, robbed and physically injured. There is no way to estimate how many guys are robbed or harmed because none of is going to report these incidents to leo.[/QUOTE]Yes but it goes both ways with the providers too! You can get beaten up anywhere, its not confined to incall situations at all.

Its pretty much a given at anytime you can get robbed or busted (thats all part of an illegal industry, no safety regulations) , but its certainly more likely to happen at a hotel or with a call service than anywhere else (outcalls). I mean, whats not to say that a girl shows up with her "security" and robs your house, and now knows where you live? NOTHING is garunteed safe (obviously) thats why I say do your research, and if something doesn't feel right at an incall, just go. If the neighborhood is sketchy, the building, the girl, whatever, just leave. But I guess just personal preference. If I were a married man, or a "hobbyist" I wouldn't want some random-ass girl knowing where I live? Or anything really about me? Or getting busted in front of all your nieghbors in the middle of the night? Is laziness really worth getting into trouble? I'm not judging anyone's personal preference, just something to consider, I'm only adding my prospective form the providers view, not comdemning all outcall scenarios. But its pretty much universially known among us women that outcalls are way more risky. Thats why you have to hire security. But then again, its more money so some girls do it (or they are married with kids or something that prevents them from using their place). Like I said, I used to provide both outcalls and incalls, but have stuck with incall only just be / see its safer and I haven't had any trouble yet.

Anyway, just something to think about. Only providing the otherside.

Happy hobbying!

Long time in this hobby but first report. I've always favored asian girls. TP is a very good source. I've RTFF enough to be interested in the Willowbrook Nazi's girls but I don't live anywhere near Willowbrook so I'll just stay curious. Someone said he has girls on Elston?

I live on the NW side of the city, so I've been seeing the BP asian girls from the Asian apts. TP has much better girls, the apts are hit and miss. I had an ATF from the apts, so I like to check in from time to time to see what I've been missing. Last week I answered this ad: [url]http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-sexy-busty-beauty-asian-yaya-24/9148363[/url]

Since I've been to the apts before I had no problem getting in. One thing I don't like about the apts is that their pictures aren't real so it's a crapshoot. The girl I wanted to see was reviewed so I felt better about it. When I called for an appointment, though, she wasn't working that day. They offered me Yaya instead.

So Yaya opens the door and hides behind it. Nice looking girl, probably about 25. Not a skinny girl but solid built with nice natural boobs. She was wearing red lingere and the apartment stank, like cooking bad food. Like chit'lins. It was a little distracting. She also has a huge tattoo on her back. Professionally done but I don't like tats.

The good thing is that Yaya was in the shower with me. That has never happened in the apts. She washed me and dried me, then led me to bed. Unlike other girls, she didn't start with the bullshit massage. She laid me on my back, started playing with me. Then CBJ with a lot of attention and eye contact. Usually the main event starts CG, but instead she said "you top", and that's how we finished: me top. I paid for the hour and I got out the door in 40 minutes.

The good: Decent looking girl, nice rack, she'll shower with you, affordable ($.6)

The bad: Tats (YMMV) , the food smell, kind of mechanical performance. Nowhere near GFE.

Ohare Asian Apts are a crapshoot.

[QUOTE=Perrop; 1290048]Thanks for your pov, I think most guys with experience pretty much feel sessions out. Now, the idea that we're just going into a session and not clear anything up once there and just hope for the best outcome? I don't think so! It might be a bit of a risk, but forking over some hard earned and not knowing what you're getting in return is not an option, unless you remember to write "sucker" on your face before you leave your house. There's always risk, I think it's part of why we do what we do, tbh. But with some experience you get an idea of when's safe, just like you said you can smell bs from guys who come to see you. Goes both ways. Even experienced hobbies, got to make sure not to get too comfortable and let down your guard down.

A fellow hobby posted last week that he got busted at a motel without proof of anything. Thoughts didn't specify what for. (many of us were in disbelief). A loitering bust might be the lesser of all evils, if we are to chose? Stay safe, everyone![/QUOTE]Yes thats true, of course you're taking a risk if you don't ask incriminating questions. Thats why you DO YOUR RESEARCH. Thats what all of you "hobbyists" are doing right now. Researching and reporting. Finding reviews are so easy, you're just asking for trouble if you're too lazy to do the work. There are at least 5 major sites you can check for reviews, and its easy. So why would you take the time to incriminate yourself when you can take the same amount of time and find out even MORE details yourself?

But again, its a personal preference. I'm just merely offering advice for those concerned and parting my knowledge of leo tactics! I'm not condemning anyone from asking questions or telling everyone never to ask anything ever or youll be arrested; I mean, come on, thats just stupid! I'm just informing the risks. I didn't see the post where that guy got busted, but I'm sure there was proof that it was an illegal transaction (such as an email answering questions that confirm its an illegal transaction, like is the french untranlsated or can I cum twice, etc.) I'm sure he was busted as soon as he walked in. It happens to the providers all the time- it takes even less to arrest the provider (the burdon of proof is significantly less for an arrest for a provider).

If you want to ask questions, by all means, ask away. Its your right I guess. But also realize that if a provider doesn't want to answer the question (as I pointed out earlier) , the answer is YES and not no (or else the provider would have just said no, I don't so whatever illegal activity you are asking about. Get it?). Learn to READ BETWEEN THE LINES. There are ways to find out what you're looking for without getting anyone into trouble. Use your common sense.

Happy hobbying!

Hi guys!

I know you don't typically get women on here posting, but I hope its cool that I ask a question. Even though I have tits, I think just like a man, so I appreciate the male prespective haha.

I'm having trouble with a "client." I've seen him a handful of time over the past 2 years and the few times I've seen him we've had fun. but we had a bizarre argument and now he's threatening to post my address online and tell guys to come over and "rape me raw." please dont reply, please PM me -- I don't want to create ripples online or in the forum. I respect that some guys probably don't want women or providers checking this forum out, or that you don't feel comfortable taking issue against a fellow hobbyist. but I've NEVER had a problem like so I'm at a loss as to why such an extreme situation is happening and what I can do about it.

Also, I'd just like to say that guys like this give you good discrete hobbyists a bad name. its precisely these guys that make us girls suspicious, unwilling to compromise, and quite frankly a pain the in ass as you guys so often report. I've read a few posts about guys ditching out on the bill at some parlors, and that several hobbyists have condemned them. I hope you feel the same about violence against us too!

Thanks for reading.

I would simply not see him anymore. There is a not a whole lot that you can do about what he is writing on the internet unless you get the leo's involved, which you may or may not want to do. As far as mitigating any future violence, it might behoove you to simply not take in any new clients, much to our loss. If you don't live within the city limits of Chicago (unless that law has changed. North suburbanite here) you might want to consider purchasing a firearm, or you could possibly even get a dog. I don't feel that instigating violence against a provider is ever called for.

Best of luck

[QUOTE=Naughty Grrrrl; 1290356]Hi guys!

I know you don't typically get women on here posting, but I hope its cool that I ask a question. Even though I have tits, I think just like a man, so I appreciate the male prespective haha.

Anyway, I'm having trouble with a "client." I've seen him a handful of time over the past 2 years and the few times I've seen him we've had fun. I've never contacted him, he has always contacted me. But he's a very voliatile man. Sometimes he's super cool and chill, and other times he's a rage alcoholic who is easily offended and vindictive. I must admit, he doesn't strike me as too birght either; he's "young, dumb and full of cum." I caught him posting misinformation about my rates and asked him politely to remove it, and now he's threatening to post my address online and tell guys to come over and "rape me raw." normally this type of guy would have been screened out, but he was a referal from another long-time client and we negotiated a special deal since I only seen him twice a year. I was just as fiesty with him in this argument so sadly I understand I am partially to blame for his threats (typically I can keep my cool so I'm disappointed in myself too for letting him get to me) but what should I do?

If you don't feel comfortable replying, please PM me. I don't want to create ripples online or in the forum (I respect that some guys probably don't want women or providers checking this forum out, or that you don't feel comfortable taking issue against a fellow hobbyist) , but I feel like this is a really harsh reaction to what start off as a pleasant conversation and I'm worried about what he might do to me physically (or influence others). He's already indirectly responsible for getting me attacked during a massage. (I say indirectly be / see it was an unintentional comment online that someone else read and got the wrong idea, whcih is why I've asked him to remove the post.) but I've NEVER had a problem with a client ever, and I'm usually very easygoing and work really hard to resolve conflict, so I'm at a loss as to why such an extreme situation is happening and what I can do about it.

Also, I'd just like to say that guys like this give you good discrete hobbyists a bad name. Obviously I'm not going to condemn every guy based on this one loose cannon, but it had now successfully freaked me out and completely changed my massage "practices," assuming I will start doing massages again! But its precisely these guys that make us girls suspicious, unwilling to compromise, and quite frankly a pain the in ass as you guys so often report. I've read a few posts about guys ditching out on the bill at some parlors, and that several hobbyists have condemned them. I hope you feel the same about violence against us too!

Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Naughty Grrrrl; 1290234]Yes but it goes both ways with the providers too! You can get beaten up anywhere, its not confined to incall situations at all.

Its pretty much a given at anytime you can get robbed or busted (thats all part of an illegal industry, no safety regulations) , but its certainly more likely to happen at a hotel or with a call service than anywhere else (outcalls). I mean, whats not to say that a girl shows up with her "security" and robs your house, and now knows where you live? NOTHING is garunteed safe (obviously) thats why I say do your research, and if something doesn't feel right at an incall, just go. If the neighborhood is sketchy, the building, the girl, whatever, just leave. But I guess just personal preference. If I were a married man, or a "hobbyist" I wouldn't want some random-ass girl knowing where I live? Or anything really about me? Or getting busted in front of all your nieghbors in the middle of the night? Is laziness really worth getting into trouble? I'm not judging anyone's personal preference, just something to consider, I'm only adding my prospective form the providers view, not comdemning all outcall scenarios. But its pretty much universially known among us women that outcalls are way more risky. Thats why you have to hire security. But then again, its more money so some girls do it (or they are married with kids or something that prevents them from using their place). Like I said, I used to provide both outcalls and incalls, but have stuck with incall only just be / see its safer and I haven't had any trouble yet.

Anyway, just something to think about. Only providing the otherside.

Happy hobbying![/QUOTE]I don't get it. How can an agreement take place if you don't know what's offered? DATY and Licking Ass are a must for me. If I can't do that the session is worthless. I'd rather know before I waste time coming to you. A monger's only security for getting what he wants is the cash in his pocket. Once he gives that up he is at the mercy of the provider. Money on the table in plain site is good enough for me. What about you?

How would you feel if I came over dropped my pants then asked the questions regarding service? Would that make you feel the more comfortable?

There should be codes for services just like 420.

As much as I appreciate your posts and find the dialog you're trying to create interesting, you're doing all this chatter in the wrong area. Why don't you move this to general reports so it doesn't completely hijack the backpage reviews we're coming here to read?

[QUOTE=Naughty Grrrrl;1290241]Yes thats true, of course you're taking a risk if you don't ask incriminating questions. Thats why you DO YOUR RESEARCH. Thats what all of you "hobbyists" are doing right now. Researching and reporting. Finding reviews are so easy, you're just asking for trouble if you're too lazy to do the work. There are at least 5 major sites you can check for reviews, and its easy. So why would you take the time to incriminate yourself when you can take the same amount of time and find out even MORE details yourself?[/QUOTE]In the ideal situation, a hobby will do research before going into a session. A simple 10 second google search can save you from a nightmare experience. Happened to me earlier this year- got too comfortable and maybe lazy. Sometimes we just get the itch late night when we're out. Or we're on the road and got stood up by a provider, so we do a quicky search for another option. More often than not, my less satisfying experiences have been such scenarios. So, doing the recon ahead of time is not always possible, even though we all know it'd be best.

I know some hobbies only see reviewed girls. Frankly, I don't like putting the burden solely on others. If I want to see a girl I'll check if she's reviewed. If so, great. If not, I make the best call given everything to consider. But if we all only saw previously reviewed, there wouldn't be any girls reviewed! We'd all be waiting for the next sob to take HIS chances.

I'm willing to go out there, screw it. But I will not go in blindly and expect the best, thats just asking to get taken advantage of.

Forget the "we providers are jaded because of the bad mongers." Some girls are scammers, plain and simple looking to screw anyone they can. Just like there certainly are ahole mongers, sure. But you're only looking at it from a providers pov where you're in the Leo clear by avoiding discussing the no-no's. Like my fellow hobby just said, once we give up the $, we're at the provider's mercy. I'm not willing to give up what little or lot power I have by flying blindly, leaving yourself at her mercy? No way, jose.

If a girl's titties are hanging out, chances are she ain't Leo. We hobbies have to be smart. I'm going to want to know what I'm dealing with once we've established neither is Leo. If she's unwilling to cooperate for her own reasons, just say "sorry, but this is the way I do this. Thank you" and walk out. No need to be rude. If she feels uncomfortable and can't cooperate, I can respect it- but I'm out! I've had girls call me back and apologize, even offer a discnt. No need to huff and puff, hobbies- just on to the next one! My 2nd or 3rd best session in the last 12 months was a young white hottie who tried to pull my card. I thanked her and just went my way instead of going through with the session. Called me and made me an offer I couldn't refuse. Went back and dot, dot, dot. Had one for the books!

Anyway, if she's unwilling to cooperate, many times it's cause she'll upsell you or scam you in the session. Flags aplenty are out there for the trouble girls, we just have to stop thinking with our (whatever you call your member).

You don't want to expose yourself to Leo, of course. But you also don't want to pull your pants down for a scammer to screw you.

Visited this place couple of days.

[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/asian-hottie-630-557-9065-asian-hottie-26/8979067[/url]

Called first and a guy answered, asked me to come to 88 & 355 and call back. Reached there and call so asked me to com eto one apartment behind rockford city mall. Reached there and call then he asked me to park on top floor and wait there, girl will come to take you in. Waited 10 minutes at second last floor a little away from where I was asked to park, all swatting with doubt that it may be LEO setup. Saw girl coming out so followed her. Asian a lot of makeup on. Reached in room with her did LE check and asked menu after that. She says straight forward that talk to my manager. Called manager and he told she will do everything but don't ask her or she will be scared. What the hell but went ahead. Started session, hardly 3-4 minutes of head and she says I can't do it. Asked WoT and that again for 2-3 minutes and standard answer "I can't do it". Started in other position and in hardly 2-3 minutes she says again I can't do it. What the hell stepped out and she started yelling in local language believe it was chienese. Then called his manager and manager called me. I believe she told manager that I am not giving her $. Manager started threatening me. I told him I gave her but she threw it away. Got the hell out of there. In 2 minutes manager calls me back and started oputting blame on me that I did not behave as gentelman. Now I was out of his territory so abused him like any thing in all languages I knew and hang up. Very very bad experience. Total damage $.6 a complete waste.

Avoid this place. For your information there are 2 different people as manager one he and one she.

Visited [url]http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/have-a-classy-upscale-and-erotic-experience-wthe-ultimate-ebony-playmate-24/9130823[/url]

Nice attitude. Its the girl in picture 100. Had a good session all covered. There was just a small twist. When I finished I went to clean myself and found that there was another girl in bathroom. Was really shocked and surprised on how I missed it. I can say its was defiantly a miss because her friend was hotter then her. If I would have seen her first I would have gone for her.

Real safe deal

[url]http://chicago.classivox.com/Female-Escorts/Latina-Puerto-Rican-and-Cuban-mix.-Really-me-in-the/v/4689/[/url]

Any latinas in the chicago area? Found this one, but no other info on google. Seems great. RTF but not a lot of info on ethnicity.

[url]http://naughtymariahdds.escortfiles.com/gallery[/url]

Got together with her from her ad on backpage yesterday. Will be in town with a friend for a few days. Non GFE young very nice busty gal. Pics of her are real. Great tits and attitude. CBJ, DS, CG, standing DS and CBJ to finish in the cover. Upscale hotel in the Westren Burbs. $.25 hh $$hr

Had a visit with emily amber recently. She's been forced into retirement by our favorite friends. Said she's still getting calls on her BP ad but mostly isn't answering them or won't be visiting with any friends. Another one bites the dust but hopefully she'll find something better to do.

[QUOTE=JuanPrimo; 1290239]Long time in this hobby but first report. I've always favored asian girls. TP is a very good source. I've RTFF enough to be interested in the Willowbrook Nazi's girls but I don't live anywhere near Willowbrook so I'll just stay curious. Someone said he has girls on Elston?

I live on the NW side of the city, so I've been seeing the BP asian girls from the Asian apts. TP has much better girls, the apts are hit and miss. I had an ATF from the apts, so I like to check in from time to time to see what I've been missing. Last week I answered this ad:

[url]http://chicago.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-sexy-busty-beauty-asian-yaya-24/9148363[/url]

Since I've been to the apts before I had no problem getting in. One thing I don't like about the apts is that their pictures aren't real so it's a crapshoot. The girl I wanted to see was reviewed so I felt better about it. When I called for an appointment, though, she wasn't working that day. They offered me Yaya instead.

So Yaya opens the door and hides behind it. Nice looking girl, probably about 25. Not a skinny girl but solid built with nice natural boobs. She was wearing red lingere and the apartment stank, like cooking bad food. Like chit'lins. It was a little distracting. She also has a huge tattoo on her back. Professionally done but I don't like tats.

The good thing is that Yaya was in the shower with me. That has never happened in the apts. She washed me and dried me, then led me to bed. Unlike other girls, she didn't start with the bullshit massage. She laid me on my back, started playing with me. Then CBJ with a lot of attention and eye contact. Usually the main event starts CG, but instead she said "you top", and that's how we finished: me top. I paid for the hour and I got out the door in 40 minutes.

The good: Decent looking girl, nice rack, she'll shower with you, affordable ($.6)

The bad: Tats (YMMV) , the food smell, kind of mechanical performance. Nowhere near GFE.

Ohare Asian Apts are a crapshoot.[/QUOTE]I have seen this girl also. She is good looking and a pleasant person. I called up to see one girl, that I asked for by name, and was told that she was that person. When I arrived it was another. This happens a lot at these types of AMPs. Very rarely do you get the girl in the picture. If you realize this, then the experience becomes one of like opening a new present. You can be surprised by what you get. By and large, out of 100 (and I go a lot) I have only had a handful of disappointments. I have also had a few unbelievable experiences. My session with this girl was less than average, so you just don't return.

Unlike providers these AA turn the girls every 2 or 3 weeks. The only incentive to do the better job is they hope you will return before they go or they just naturally do a good job.

I am still looking for that massage woman that I can go to on a regular basis.

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