Ripoff Reports

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;5837365]Yep and your example is perfect textbook in that they would rather go for the fast nickel than the slow dime! It's like the shacks. If they wouldn't bait with all of they are going to offer and just say oh you must pay such and such and you will get such and such. However, no they lure you in with a fee under a hundred bucks and then say it's in the thousands for anything to happen! Ditto strip joints in most cases. It's like way long term stupid, however there really is no long term with these stupid c**ts. Sort of like my flea markets. There is no yesterday and there is not tomorrow so if one sees something, work the price out, grab it and go! One may ask what these dumb f**ks are thinking? Really they aren't so if one starts from that premise one can accept their behavior more easily imo. Be careful gents. They are indeed out there![/QUOTE]

Her name was America and she later started going by the name Star. Very cheap sessions. Druggie but hardly any marks, her smooth and clear skin was actually one of my things about her, very sexy body with an okay face. Operated on the west side. Really surprised she never had posted again which is why I figured she skipped town unless she's 6 feet under. I have a hard time believing she stopped posting only over my incident. But it goes to show these women will go off the radar at the snap of a finger. It seems the place I use to visit for incalls took a portion of her earnings and I don't think it was just for using their spot. It was an older lady that would come collect after I handed over the gifts.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5838303]Her name was America and she later started going by the name Star. Very cheap sessions. Druggie but hardly any marks, her smooth and clear skin was actually one of my things about her, very sexy body with an okay face. Operated on the west side. Really surprised she never had posted again which is why I figured she skipped town unless she's 6 feet under. I have a hard time believing she stopped posting only over my incident. But it goes to show these women will go off the radar at the snap of a finger. It seems the place I use to visit for incalls took a portion of her earnings and I don't think it was just for using their spot. It was an older lady that would come collect after I handed over the gifts.[/QUOTE]Imo not so humble as usual I like to say- they never really quit the business (exceptions can be noted of course). The business quits them! Either the weight, drug marks, general craziness in the mind, what I refer to as the appendage I. E. Pimp, bf, assorted looking mooch, etc. Will cause them to disappear. My experience with an eros traveler has been there will be extended times when she just disappears and then reappear with of course a new handle, emails, phone numbers. I have been tracking her to the obsession point (perfect petite blonde under 5'3") for years so I know the pix instantly, however again at all levels of cash they never really quit. They can say anything and usually do. They share several things- it's quick money and they will not work a real job. It's too slow and confining. Their way is the only way! Thanks for the update and sorry for my usual old man rant. I get the senior citizen discount on words on here! Stosh. Safe please all!

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5836532][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8722336098/1[/URL]

Goes by Leah.

This one is a complete assshole. Avoid. Also an obvious user, probably why she's so messed up.

I had actually seen her once before and she was cool, if troubled, so I wasn't prepared for this. She's Not at all cool anymore!

I walked in, put down for a half hour. She started cleaning up her place. White powder in plain sight. In spite of multiple requests, she would not get down to business for most of 25 minutes, had a shitty attitude. Then she started laying out the rules, and there were *lots* of them. Her reviews say BBBJ, and I'd gotten that previously, but that's sure as hell not happening now. During this discussion she got argumentative and then kicked me out, while keeping my money.

This might be intentional, as her business plan, but in any case she's got a really nasty personality and a *very* limited menu..[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience a while ago. I wouldn't consider it a ripoff, but definitely not something I'd ever repeat. She was actually pretty easy to schedule with via text, but then she told me she would be 15 minutes late when I got there. 30 minutes later, I was still waiting, and she said I could come up and wait in her room while she got ready. She proceeded to tell me her life story while she did random stuff around the room. An hour later, we finally got down to business and she immediately gives me a lecture about how she doesn't do BBBJ and that all of her reviews say that everything is covered. I basically didn't say anything while she rambled on, and eventually she just paused, looked at me, and then mumbled something about hooking me up this one time. She lubed me up, and then gave me the psycho stare while she broke down her list of rules (don't thrust, don't move, don't touch her head, etc). The actual BBBJ was actually really, really good. She went balls deep over and over again, and then licked my balls while deepthroating me when I asked. I told her I was going to cum thinking she wouldn't allow cim, but she started going balls deep again, and held her head all the way down while I pumped a load in her throat. I was getting ready for round 2, but she said she needed to run downstairs for some water. I was ok with it at first, but she started doing her fidgety thing around her room, and I realized I'd be waiting in her room for a long time. I told her that I was going to go even though I booked her for the hour and I had only gotten 30 minutes of service. She got very annoyed and argumentative. I have never met a girl that made a big deal out of me leaving early.

Leah, redux[QUOTE=JayKay8;5840885]
She proceeded to tell me her life story while she did random stuff around the room. An hour later, we finally got down to business and she immediately gives me a lecture about how she doesn't do BBBJ and that all of her reviews say that everything is covered. ... She lubed me up, and then gave me the psycho stare while she broke down her list of rules (don't thrust, don't move, don't touch her head, etc). The actual BBBJ was actually really, really good.
... She got very annoyed and argumentative. I have never met a girl that made a big deal out of me leaving early.[/QUOTE]You've got *way* more patience than me. I was done waiting after 20 or so minutes of her talking about bullshit (allegedly managed to get a dishonorable discharge, for example) and cleaning up the room. No way I could ever put up with an hour of that. I let her know that, too. She wasn't even apologetic. If anything the opposite. Things just got worse when she started laying down the rules, she said nothing bare and I pointed out that she'd done a BBBJ on me last time I was there. She *really* didn't like that discussion.

But yeah, the argumentative part, very real. The psycho stare also. She's a biotch and she's fukking crazy, too, I don't think this ends well for some future visitor. [B]She's on the edge of doing something terrible. She keeps this huge knife in the bathroom.[/B].

I'm glad I only paid for the half hour. But I got nothing, so absolutely a rippoff.

Luckily, I just went and saw Alizae. (If Alizae had answered her phone earlier, I wouldn't have even thought of seeing Leah.) Meanwhile, Leah's living in a *shit* motel sucking dicks until nobody wants her anymore, which will be much sooner than she thinks.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5836532][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8722336098/1[/URL]

Goes by Leah.

This one is a complete assshole. Avoid. Also an obvious user, probably why she's so messed up.

I had actually seen her once before and she was cool, if troubled, so I wasn't prepared for this. She's Not at all cool anymore!

I walked in, put down for a half hour. She started cleaning up her place. White powder in plain sight. In spite of multiple requests, she would not get down to business for most of 25 minutes, had a shitty attitude. Then she started laying out the rules, and there were *lots* of them. Her reviews say BBBJ, and I'd gotten that previously, but that's sure as hell not happening now. During this discussion she got argumentative and then kicked me out, while keeping my money.

This might be intentional, as her business plan, but in any case she's got a really nasty personality and a *very* limited menu.

Take the oldest looking picture and add 5 - 10 *hard* years.[/QUOTE]I've seen her before, a long time ago. Never bothered reviewing her because it was largely unremarkable. The only thing of interest was that when I saw her she had just run out of condoms and couldn't find any more after looking all over the place for a good 20 minutes. She finally gave up and gave me a BBBJ, which I was hoping for anyway. I couldn't really cum that way so I asked if she wanted to fuck and she said no. I kept offering her more and when I got to $60 extra she asked if I was clean and would promise not to cum in her. I agreed and she let me bareback her. It wasn't great because she kept pulling back thinking I was about to cum. When I was about to cum she pulled off too soon which ruined the orgasm.

Nothing special at all.

[QUOTE=JayKay8;5840885]She proceeded to tell me her life story while she did random stuff around the room. An hour later, we finally got down to business [/QUOTE]I'm not a methhead so I really can't speak with any certainty about this behavior but it's certainly common. There are loads of distractions that seem to be necessary for the druggie. You can see this on chaturbate as well. The woman is about to do something like take off her bra and she starts doing her hair or moving things off the bed or putting on a different pair of shoes. Things that have nothing to do with taking off the bra. There is some kind of strange combo between a total lack of focus and a hyper focused attention on something that has nothing to do with the moment at hand.

[QUOTE=DWaits;5841472]I'm not a methhead so I really can't speak with any certainty about this behavior but it's certainly common. There are loads of distractions that seem to be necessary for the druggie. You can see this on chaturbate as well. The woman is about to do something like take off her bra and she starts doing her hair or moving things off the bed or putting on a different pair of shoes. Things that have nothing to do with taking off the bra. There is some kind of strange combo between a total lack of focus and a hyper focused attention on something that has nothing to do with the moment at hand.[/QUOTE]Sounds obsessive compulsive as well. Straightening things out or moving something from one place to another and then back is also a sign. Now I am just another guy posting and know nothing about this, however I do know a few people that have mental disabilities and these traits are common.

[URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/3161251[/URL] Is obviously a rip off, pictures are Olivia Casta from only fans at oliviacastaxx.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;5841434]I've seen her before, a long time ago. Never bothered reviewing her because it was largely unremarkable. The only thing of interest was that when I saw her she had just run out of condoms and couldn't find any more after looking all over the place for a good 20 minutes. She finally gave up and gave me a BBBJ, which I was hoping for anyway. I couldn't really cum that way so I asked if she wanted to fuck and she said no. I kept offering her more and when I got to $60 extra she asked if I was clean and would promise not to cum in her. I agreed and she let me bareback her. It wasn't great because she kept pulling back thinking I was about to cum. When I was about to cum she pulled off too soon which ruined the orgasm.

Nothing special at all.[/QUOTE]Noticed that there is no contact information on the ad.

[URL]https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/2613371[/URL]

Reached out about services offered, general location, rates, etc. First reply was "do you have cash app or venmo?" Without answering any of my questions. Then it asked for full payment over cashapp or venmo before giving out address. Told the (probably Indian) scammer to fuck off and it replied with a request for a deposit. Called the scumbag scammer every name in the book and blocked the #.

This was such a blatant and obvious scam attempt. People actually fall for this stuff?

[QUOTE=LS4V8;5843063][URL]https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/2613371[/URL]

Reached out about services offered, general location, rates, etc. First reply was "do you have cash app or venmo?" Without answering any of my questions. Then it asked for full payment over cashapp or venmo before giving out address. Told the (probably Indian) scammer to fuck off and it replied with a request for a deposit. Called the scumbag scammer every name in the book and blocked the #.

This was such a blatant and obvious scam attempt. People actually fall for this stuff?[/QUOTE]If you're old enough you will remember pay phones on almost every street corner and in every building. Do you remember seeing some people always checking the coin return? How often did this result in a quarter or a nickel? My guess is not very often but you still had some people check everyone they would pass. It's probably the same mentality. A guy sets up some ads and phone numbers with an automated script. He invests maybe an hour of his time and 30 dollars. Then does nothing. Checks his cashapp accounts occasionally and is pleased to see 20 dollars here 50 dollars there. Maybe after a year he has 200 maybe 2000. Just profit after that initial investment. Just like the people checking the payphones he makes enough to make the effort worthwhile. Just my guess.

B.

[QUOTE=Bkmsw;5843598]If you're old enough you will remember pay phones on almost every street corner and in every building. Do you remember seeing some people always checking the coin return? How often did this result in a quarter or a nickel? My guess is not very often but you still had some people check everyone they would pass. It's probably the same mentality. A guy sets up some ads and phone numbers with an automated script. He invests maybe an hour of his time and 30 dollars. Then does nothing. Checks his cashapp accounts occasionally and is pleased to see 20 dollars here 50 dollars there. Maybe after a year he has 200 maybe 2000. Just profit after that initial investment. Just like the people checking the payphones he makes enough to make the effort worthwhile. Just my guess.

B.[/QUOTE]I suspect that as access to AI driven chat bots gets easier and cheaper, we will see WAY more of this.

[QUOTE=HenryA77;5843620]I suspect that as access to AI driven chat bots gets easier and cheaper, we will see WAY more of this.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed, if you dialogue with some of these scams it's easy to see the response is either computer generated or the person doesn't have good English. Many girls don't like to show their face in real ads, so if the pictures are clear, professional grade and the rates really low it's a fake most likely. TGTBT. If she says the total is 100 and you need to send 20 for gas. Keep it moving. Might sound like a good deal but you will be empty handed with time wasted.

Watch out. I got burned for $. Bianca Dior. Phone number not working now but ended in 1158. I just don't want anyone else to get burned for deposit scams. Hopefully, I can get my $ back. We'll see.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5843632]Yes indeed, if you dialogue with some of these scams it's easy to see the response is either computer generated or the person doesn't have good English. Many girls don't like to show their face in real ads, so if the pictures are clear, professional grade and the rates really low it's a fake most likely. TGTBT. If she says the total is 100 and you need to send 20 for gas. Keep it moving. Might sound like a good deal but you will be empty handed with time wasted.[/QUOTE]When in dialogue I have found one of the easiest ways to tell is when one is asking for specific services and they keep asking for cash app, cc info, et al just ask something completely out of context- so pigs really do fly and you walk on water or again it doesn't really matter just so it's off script and then when they stay in their or it's lane it's an easy giveaway.

[QUOTE=GothBoi30;5849422]Watch out. I got burned for $. Bianca Dior. Phone number not working now but ended in 1158. I just don't want anyone else to get burned for deposit scams. Hopefully, I can get my $ back. We'll see.[/QUOTE]You will never see that money again.

Sadly, you paid tuition at the school of hard knocks.

Please do remember the lesson well.

[QUOTE=GothBoi30;5849422]Watch out. I got burned for $. Bianca Dior. Phone number not working now but ended in 1158. I just don't want anyone else to get burned for deposit scams. Hopefully, I can get my $ back. We'll see.[/QUOTE]Here is another scam to watch out for. A girl I recently saw did not have an in call, I refuse to do car dates, but since she was cute, blonde 19 yo willing for BBFSCIP I agreed to cover the cost of the hotel, and she would take it off my donation. I told her I will give her the CASH as I did NOT want the room in my name at all. She agreed. I sat on a couch across from the desk and she waved me up. The hotel wanted a credit card for a deposit, I stressed it was just for 1 night and the desk clerk said ok.

Well I am sure you can see where this is going, she ended up extending day by day for almost two weeks and ran up 1000's in room service charges. All in all I ended up with a $3500 bill on my visa. She used to advertise on Private Delights, so I left a scathing review, and she deleted her profile a couple of days later.

In hindsight I should have just paid the cash deposit and let her get that back in the end with no CC what so ever.

However to her credit, she sucked a cock like a leaf blower, she took a good pounding, and I shot a huge load in her pussy.

I did find her social media account but never went after her.

[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5849949]Here is another scam to watch out for. A girl I recently saw did not have an in call, I refuse to do car dates, but since she was cute, blonde 19 yo willing for BBFSCIP I agreed to cover the cost of the hotel, and she would take it off my donation. I told her I will give her the CASH as I did NOT want the room in my name at all. She agreed. I sat on a couch across from the desk and she waved me up. The hotel wanted a credit card for a deposit, I stressed it was just for 1 night and the desk clerk said ok.

Well I am sure you can see where this is going, she ended up extending day by day for almost two weeks and ran up 1000's in room service charges. All in all I ended up with a $3500 bill on my visa. She used to advertise on Private Delights, so I left a scathing review, and she deleted her profile a couple of days later.

In hindsight I should have just paid the cash deposit and let her get that back in the end with no CC what so ever.

However to her credit, she sucked a cock like a leaf blower, she took a good pounding, and I shot a huge load in her pussy.

I did find her social media account but never went after her.[/QUOTE]If you did not want it in your name, why did you use your CC. Plus you stated desk clerk waived the CC for deposit.

[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5849949]Here is another scam to watch out for. A girl I recently saw did not have an in call, I refuse to do car dates, but since she was cute, blonde 19 yo willing for BBFSCIP I agreed to cover the cost of the hotel, and she would take it off my donation. I told her I will give her the CASH as I did NOT want the room in my name at all. She agreed. I sat on a couch across from the desk and she waved me up. The hotel wanted a credit card for a deposit, I stressed it was just for 1 night and the desk clerk said ok.

Well I am sure you can see where this is going, she ended up extending day by day for almost two weeks and ran up 1000's in room service charges. All in all I ended up with a $3500 bill on my visa. She used to advertise on Private Delights, so I left a scathing review, and she deleted her profile a couple of days later.

In hindsight I should have just paid the cash deposit and let her get that back in the end with no CC what so ever.

However to her credit, she sucked a cock like a leaf blower, she took a good pounding, and I shot a huge load in her pussy.

I did find her social media account but never went after her.[/QUOTE]Well at the least you got your rocks off! Could have been worse, not much but yea that will happen. Let's just say that some of these lovely and beautiful ladies aka dumb c**ts have not come from your better finishing schools! Honest? As the day is long. Oh that's in alaska during the season they never see the sun! Lesson learned. Would have like to been the fly on the wall when that $3. 5 k bill was explained to the significant other or on a business account. Stosh.

[QUOTE=HenryA77;5849902]You will never see that money again.

Sadly, you paid tuition at the school of hard knocks.

Please do remember the lesson well.[/QUOTE]Say that as well in my first post. Deep down I am sure he realizes all that now. Still waiting, still waiting, still waiting. Five years later? Still waiting!!

She probably has been at this motel / hotel before and knows how it operates. Probably not her first time doing this. The motel / hotel probably knows what she's doing. She makes money turning tricks. And the motel / hotel makes money off your credit card. A husband is going to have a rough time explaining this to the wife.

[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5849949]Here is another scam to watch out for. A girl I recently saw did not have an in call, I refuse to do car dates, but since she was cute, blonde 19 yo willing for BBFSCIP I agreed to cover the cost of the hotel, and she would take it off my donation. I told her I will give her the CASH as I did NOT want the room in my name at all. She agreed. I sat on a couch across from the desk and she waved me up. The hotel wanted a credit card for a deposit, I stressed it was just for 1 night and the desk clerk said ok.

Well I am sure you can see where this is going, she ended up extending day by day for almost two weeks and ran up 1000's in room service charges. All in all I ended up with a $3500 bill on my visa. She used to advertise on Private Delights, so I left a scathing review, and she deleted her profile a couple of days later.

In hindsight I should have just paid the cash deposit and let her get that back in the end with no CC what so ever.

However to her credit, she sucked a cock like a leaf blower, she took a good pounding, and I shot a huge load in her pussy.

I did find her social media account but never went after her.[/QUOTE]Had something very similar happen to me with a girl I had been seeing for nearly four years. It had turned into a quasi sugar relationship at this point with us getting together at least once a week, she was a young smoking hot blonde spinner and pretty much let me do whatever I wanted to her. One day she called me up saying she was at a friend's because she had gotten robbed by a client who stole her purse which had her cash, credit cards and I'd. She promised that if I could just get a room for her she'd get it switched to her name once her replacement stuff came in and I could see her for free until then. Dumbass that I am I went ahead and did it. She ended up staying there a few more months after telling me she got it switched over after a few days when what she actually was doing was just renewing it day after day and I was none the wiser cause she kept current on the bill. Then one night she had her ex over and her current boyfriend showed up (neither whom I knew about) and a huge fight broke out. They completely destroyed the room, someone threw a chair through the window, room was on the second floor, thousands in damages. Police got called, it was a hot mess for me for a while. Girl disappeared and dropped out of the business, she ghosted me and I haven't seen or heard from her since. Just goes to show that you can never trust these girls.

[QUOTE=StCrispin;5850526]Had something very similar happen to me with a girl I had been seeing for nearly four years. It had turned into a quasi sugar relationship at this point with us getting together at least once a week, she was a young smoking hot blonde spinner and pretty much let me do whatever I wanted to her. One day she called me up saying she was at a friend's because she had gotten robbed by a client who stole her purse which had her cash, credit cards and I'd. She promised that if I could just get a room for her she'd get it switched to her name once her replacement stuff came in and I could see her for free until then. Dumbass that I am I went ahead and did it. She ended up staying there a few more months after telling me she got it switched over after a few days when what she actually was doing was just renewing it day after day and I was none the wiser cause she kept current on the bill. Then one night she had her ex over and her current boyfriend showed up (neither whom I knew about) and a huge fight broke out. They completely destroyed the room, someone threw a chair through the window, room was on the second floor, thousands in damages. Police got called, it was a hot mess for me for a while. Girl disappeared and dropped out of the business, she ghosted me and I haven't seen or heard from her since. Just goes to show that you can never trust these girls.[/QUOTE]And mind fellas!! It's not if they go absolutely nuts it's when!! This I know first hand from that pro I got to know as a quote un quote friend. Nothing crazy money wise or any of that, however going for months of being super sweet and caring to an absolute nightmare!! Scary to the point of when it finally stopped I was relieved as for awhile she would not stop trashing me online and also with vm's. Stosh when in doubt do without.

You all have covered some good reasons as to never get a room in your name that you don't of can't check out yourself. But to go along with the situations and reasons you've laid it out it's important to note that some of these establishments communicate and coordinate and have been known to black list people. I haven't heard of a person been black listed or banned from an entire chain of hotels but in this hobby I have known of some to be banned from hotels in certain areas like around OHare, some of it is LEO related but in most cases some hotels have TVs same management or are "on the look out" for known trouble makers. I've had providers tell me to get the room and they will take it out the donation or offer me phenomenal service but I always pass. I'm more on the side of "what if her pimp steals the tv" or she overdoses and the room is in my name. Anytime I get a room in my name it's for me to stay overnight with a girl or have multiple come of I just get a short stay hourly rate especially if it's just one girl I'm seeing.

If a provider needs to use my room with my name on it then I feel as if I should get a cut. Else she must leave when I do. I’ve had rooms where I played for an hour left and turned the key in the next day. I’ve seen some of you split costs with other mongers on rooms which while still risky is better than trusting some skank and her Pandora’s box of a life on your credentials.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5851176]You all have covered some good reasons as to never get a room in your name that you don't of can't check out yourself. But to go along with the situations and reasons you've laid it out it's important to note that some of these establishments communicate and coordinate and have been known to black list people. I haven't heard of a person been black listed or banned from an entire chain of hotels but in this hobby I have known of some to be banned from hotels in certain areas like around OHare, some of it is LEO related but in most cases some hotels have TVs same management or are "on the look out" for known trouble makers. I've had providers tell me to get the room and they will take it out the donation or offer me phenomenal service but I always pass. I'm more on the side of "what if her pimp steals the tv" or she overdoses and the room is in my name. Anytime I get a room in my name it's for me to stay overnight with a girl or have multiple come of I just get a short stay hourly rate especially if it's just one girl I'm seeing.

If a provider needs to use my room with my name on it then I feel as if I should get a cut. Else she must leave when I do. Ive had rooms where I played for an hour left and turned the key in the next day. Ive seen some of you split costs with other mongers on rooms which while still risky is better than trusting some skank and her Pandoras box of a life on your credentials.[/QUOTE]I once let a provider stay and use my hotel room after I left. She said she was between residences and really appreciated the help. She repaid the favor by having a huge party there and trashing the room. I was subsequently banned from that hotel chain. No good deed goes unpunished.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;5855714]I once let a provider stay and use my hotel room after I left. She said she was between residences and really appreciated the help. She repaid the favor by having a huge party there and trashing the room. I was subsequently banned from that hotel chain. No good deed goes unpunished.[/QUOTE]Word of advice if anyone does this in the future, which I wouldn't suggest. But in the event someone does. Probably best not to do it at a chain to avoid having less lodging options in the future is to use a hotel / motel without other locations. Also low budget hotels have less things to take and their TVs are hard to steal. If there's anything like coffee pots, irons, remotes with you and put them back before you check out. You should be checking the room before you turn in the keys anyhow.

At check out close out your name and credit card from the room. If she wants the room to do more tricks let her register and pay for the room under her name and pay for the room with the money you paid her to play.

I wonder if the guys that let the girl keep the room in their name sweet talked and promised a discount or freebie on the next play time. I doubt the guys did this to be a nice. There had to be some incentive for the guys to do this.

[QUOTE=RonM;5856328]At check out close out your name and credit card from the room. If she wants the room to do more tricks let her register and pay for the room under her name and pay for the room with the money you paid her to play.

I wonder if the guys that let the girl keep the room in their name sweet talked and promised a discount or freebie on the next play time. I doubt the guys did this to be a nice. There had to be some incentive for the guys to do this.[/QUOTE]The theory is that you offer to get the hotel and deduct the cost of the hotel from the fee. You tell her the fee is $150, you find a room for $75, and now you have a $75 discount on your fee. In exchange she gets an incall she can keep the rest of the night. In theory, everybody wins.

Of course as these stories show, theories can go up in smoke fast.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;5857047]The theory is that you offer to get the hotel and deduct the cost of the hotel from the fee. You tell her the fee is $150, you find a room for $75, and now you have a $75 discount on your fee. In exchange she gets an incall she can keep the rest of the night. In theory, everybody wins.

Of course as these stories show, theories can go up in smoke fast.[/QUOTE]Make sure when you're done you close out your name and credit from the room. She can register and pay for the room in her name. Don't let her keep the room in your name. If you do you're responsible for extra days stayed and damages to the room.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;5857047]The theory is that you offer to get the hotel and deduct the cost of the hotel from the fee. You tell her the fee is $150, you find a room for $75, and now you have a $75 discount on your fee. In exchange she gets an incall she can keep the rest of the night. In theory, everybody wins.

Of course as these stories show, theories can go up in smoke fast.[/QUOTE]Not really a discount if you're still coughing up 150. Unless the room has a security deposit, which many 75 buck rooms do buts only 10 bucks reimbursed. Seems she makes out on top because she's at minimum going to make 100 or so per monger that comes. However it goes tho it seems best if it goes this way to check the room out and check out yourself and not trust these girls. It's hard enough to get what you pay for. All it takes is one bad monger or miscommunication between her and him to cause conflict that could end up costing you. Remember even if you aren't around and something comes up crime wise, if your name is on the room it can get bad.

It has *always* been my rule: If the room is in my name, everyone leaves when I do. NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER.

[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5842996]Noticed that there is no contact information on the ad.[/QUOTE]Hilarious.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5857257]It has *always* been my rule: If the room is in my name, everyone leaves when I do. NO EXCEPTIONS, EVER.[/QUOTE]Having been burned for being a softie it is my rule now too. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Once Bitten Twice Shy.

[QUOTE=CGuy2;5842779][URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/3161251[/URL] Is obviously a rip off, pictures are Olivia Casta from only fans at oliviacastaxx.[/QUOTE]What is "obvious" from pictures for some is unfortunately totally believable to others. And they get damn angry for having been dumb enough to be duped. Nothing is so stinging as a sting of the ego, especially after the "obvious" has been pointed out.

[QUOTE=RonM;5856328]At check out close out your name and credit card from the room. If she wants the room to do more tricks let her register and pay for the room under her name and pay for the room with the money you paid her to play.

I wonder if the guys that let the girl keep the room in their name sweet talked and promised a discount or freebie on the next play time. I doubt the guys did this to be a nice. There had to be some incentive for the guys to do this.[/QUOTE]In my case I did this one and only one time with a UTR I had been with before and thought I was helping her out of a jam as she was between residences. My point in all this is that no matter how well you think you know a provider, a woman who fucks for bucks can bite you hard when you aren't looking. Actually ANY woman can do that. See my recent posts on this elsewhere:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?8821-Ripoff-Reports&p=5856298&viewfull=1#post5856298.[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4135-General-Reports&p=5855647&viewfull=1#post5855647[/URL]

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5851176]You all have covered some good reasons as to never get a room in your name that you don't of can't check out yourself. But to go along with the situations and reasons you've laid it out it's important to note that some of these establishments communicate and coordinate and have been known to black list people. I haven't heard of a person been black listed or banned from an entire chain of hotels but in this hobby I have known of some to be banned from hotels in certain areas like around OHare, some of it is LEO related but in most cases some hotels have TVs same management or are "on the look out" for known trouble makers. I've had providers tell me to get the room and they will take it out the donation or offer me phenomenal service but I always pass. I'm more on the side of "what if her pimp steals the tv" or she overdoses and the room is in my name. Anytime I get a room in my name it's for me to stay overnight with a girl or have multiple come of I just get a short stay hourly rate especially if it's just one girl I'm seeing.

If a provider needs to use my room with my name on it then I feel as if I should get a cut. Else she must leave when I do. Ive had rooms where I played for an hour left and turned the key in the next day. Ive seen some of you split costs with other mongers on rooms which while still risky is better than trusting some skank and her Pandoras box of a life on your credentials.[/QUOTE]First off, the overall advice to never give a girl control of a hotel room under your name is right on point. But in moments I let my guard down with some girls that were bordeline SBs, I did find a hack to put the room in their name with almost no risk. I bought a [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] gift card and booked the room prepaid for only the nights I wanted to pay for. The site allowed me to put the girl's name on the reservation so she could check in on her own, although I used my burner phone # and email so I would get some contact if there were issues. The girls were on their own for the check in deposit. Either they could swipe whatever Greendot or prepaid card they had or used cash they had in hand. That let me be the white knight and take care of a room for them, usually followed by some good cheap play sessions, and the hotel didn't have any of my credit card or real info. This may not work at hotels over the low / mid tier, as the check in deposit policies get more rigid the nicer the chain gets. Someone in the know from one of the major chains told me once that their check in system would only allow them to put in a fully populated credit card (including verified name, address, security code, etc) for incidentals, so cash or a prepaid card wouldn't fly with them.

But anyway, one time when I tried this for a girl I got a call a few minutes later on my burner that Extended Stay America had reversed the reservation because the girl's name was on a 'global do not book' list. I was actually curious enough to call back to hear the story since none of my personal info was tied to the reservation, but they wouldn't give any details. It could have been something as mundane as smoking in a non smoking room, but given her way of getting by in the world there was very likely more to the story. Definitely another good reminder to always find ways to keep your personal and financial info away from these girls!

If you can't trust the women in your house by themselves I definitely wouldn't trust them in a hotel room with a big screen tv and other items that can be taken. Even if the girl is cool, you have no idea what type of company they invite. I had a few girls I had to make money from to use my apartment when I was younger as an incall and I'm return I'd want a percentage of their earnings. I asked my roommate what he thought (he was a big tough guy) and his objection was that one day there might come a monger whose intentions were to not pay at all. Of course the result would be violence because a guy like that might expect violence or inflict it which he didn't want to bring any criminal or unwanted attention to us. Of course if you have a network of mongers it could work but our operations would've invited randoms.

Even if the damage isn't much, it's not worth getting banned from a chain of hotels or even having your name implicated if LEO investigations find your name in connection to the room. I've read stories in sex trafficking where the rooms are in the pimps name. Even if it's not the case, those implications can arise and even lead to a warrant for your arrest or being wanted for questioning. In Illinois "having a place of prostitution" can be a serious crime. It's why some providers prefer doing outcalls. If you don’t know much about these girls beware, if she’s underage you will be royally screwed. There are a lot of underage girls on LC claiming to be 21. If anyone remembers Haley from the BP days, she had an underaged roommate that I’m sure many mongers saw. That’s just a well known example.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5857802]If you can't trust the women in your house by themselves I definitely wouldn't trust them in a hotel room with a big screen tv and other items that can be taken. Even if the girl is cool, you have no idea what type of company they invite. I had a few girls I had to make money from to use my apartment when I was younger as an incall and I'm return I'd want a percentage of their earnings. I asked my roommate what he thought (he was a big tough guy) and his objection was that one day there might come a monger whose intentions were to not pay at all. Of course the result would be violence because a guy like that might expect violence or inflict it which he didn't want to bring any criminal or unwanted attention to us. Of course if you have a network of mongers it could work but our operations would've invited randoms.

Even if the damage isn't much, it's not worth getting banned from a chain of hotels or even having your name implicated if LEO investigations find your name in connection to the room. I've read stories in sex trafficking where the rooms are in the pimps name. Even if it's not the case, those implications can arise and even lead to a warrant for your arrest or being wanted for questioning. In Illinois "having a place of prostitution" can be a serious crime. It's why some providers prefer doing outcalls. If you dont know much about these girls beware, if shes underage you will be royally screwed. There are a lot of underage girls on LC claiming to be 21. If anyone remembers Haley from the BP days, she had an underaged roommate that Im sure many mongers saw. Thats just a well known example.[/QUOTE]And I for one read it all verbatim! They have your cc or real info it's not a matter of if they will create problems it's when! If they could get the bed out the door without being noticed at the front desk they would remove it and try to sell it! Got to love how these dumb c**ts think at all levels! Talk about bite the hand that feeds you. They are such dumb b**ches they chop off the entire arm at the shoulder!! Stosh. Play it safe fellas. Always better safe than sorry. Too bad in this world.

She has re-surfaced. Newer pics, same piece of shite.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5780468]Ripoff biotch with yet another new number. Keeps changing numbers.

As I previously reported here:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7600-Ripoff-Reports&p=5626467&viewfull=1#post5626467[/URL]

This biotch will agree to anything to get the money, then will honor none of it.

Plus there's a second biotch showing there, too. AVOID!

New link with number.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3128132473/1[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5857802]
. I had a few girls I had to make money from to use my apartment when I was younger as an incall and I'm return I'd want a percentage of their earnings.
[/QUOTE]Aside from the other issues, you can get charged for keeping a place of prostitution, or pimping, or even human trafficking. That's way worsr than a big motel bill.