[QUOTE=Mich Dog;1867490]Made the drive through Frandor yesterday, man does she look nice.[/QUOTE]She is very nice. Always with her man / BF? He waits in the suv in the parking lot. She wouldn't leave the corner when I tried to scoop her.
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[QUOTE=Mich Dog;1867490]Made the drive through Frandor yesterday, man does she look nice.[/QUOTE]She is very nice. Always with her man / BF? He waits in the suv in the parking lot. She wouldn't leave the corner when I tried to scoop her.
Wonder if that means that she's done with leaving the premises for private session?
[QUOTE=RobBall;1871373]She is very nice. Always with her man / BF? He waits in the suv in the parking lot. She wouldn't leave the corner when I tried to scoop her.[/QUOTE]
Hello all. Long time monger first time posting.
I wanted to report on the zoo stroll. I get out of work around midnight and I usually make my way down and back k-zoo before I go home.
This week has been a bust. Literally Monday night police everywhere! Tuesday night something was going down on the north end of town off OK Lansing road. And Wednesday night (now) there are no SW in sight.
I will keep trying.
One more thing. I use to know / work with Cory. She was a beautiful girl, had everything going for her and then got into drugs. Makes me sad to see her this way. She is WAY skinny and looks rough from the photos I have seen. She was always a nice girl. And I hope to catch her someday soon.
Oh. Also, her sister is one of Lansing's finest. Just an FYI.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1871631]Wonder if that means that she's done with leaving the premises for private session?[/QUOTE]It's that or I lost my touch in scooping a panhandler, or she has to be without her man waiting in the SUV.
[QUOTE=Waxon1; 1870858]Don't forget south Washington from the old bus station down into Reotown, also around the State Journal and Cherry Hill St. Off of Kalamazoo. Nothing better than a cherry hill hooker.
LOL.[/QUOTE]You are correct, around the Old bus station and around the park on the West side of Capital Ave. I recall a favorite that used to work the Bar at the hotel by the park. I can not recall the name. A state Rep was busted in a sting at the park, they used to be back in the neighborhood around the Y. Another LOL
[QUOTE=Mr Buebird;1872359]You are correct, around the Old bus station and around the park on the West side of Capital Ave. I recall a favorite that used to work the Bar at the hotel by the park. I can not recall the name. A state Rep was busted in a sting at the park, they used to be back in the neighborhood around the Y. Another LOL[/QUOTE]I recall the Hotel was the Capital Park, used to pick them up in the parking lot.
[QUOTE=RobBall;1872255]It's that or I lost my touch in scooping a panhandler, or she has to be without her man waiting in the SUV.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what the ACTUAL story is, but:
I ran into hispanic Jaimie yesterday and somehow we ended up discussing our clipper girl. She claims to be a friend of hers and knew her by name without my mentioning it. For whatever that's worth. She claims that our Clippert girl (and her boyfriend) are addicted to Heroin. I'm, not sure I buy this, having seen ALL of her wonderfully naked I didn't notice any of the marks typical of a heroin user. That said, it might explain her erratic behavior, she's definitely down for a private session, but with all of the LE going on down the zoo and across town lately it's entirely possible that she's just gotten spooked, especially if they are friends and she's heard about this that and the other from Jaimie.
On another note, has anyone else noticed the new girl who's showed up on Michigan just west of 127 where Gui-Tarzan likes to play? She's got a scar, birthmark, or something or other on her forehead, but might have potential for mongering pleasure? Not an awesome frame but a little curvy, she actually looks the part of homeless, her jeans were pretty filthy the other day when I drove by, might be worth a shot.
Careful out there last night there was an arsehole taking pictures of people stopping to scoop up talent he was in a black f150 FYI.
Took a drive down the zoo today, saw a better then average young blond. She was walking extremely slow, passed by a few times finally pulled up to talk to her. She walked up to my car and said " before I even get in, I don't go lower then 60 " I said "oh" and drove away. Sure didn't seem right to me. Saw an older Hispanic gal assuming that's the Jamie I read about. She has a nice smile, might invite her to dinner. Is she good company?
[QUOTE=Kumgo;1875477]Careful out there last night there was an arsehole taking pictures of people stopping to scoop up talent he was in a black f150 FYI.[/QUOTE]A good way to get rid of said arseholes is to park right in front of them, as far from the curb as necessary to ensure that you block their view. If they pull away, follow them around until they really leave the area. Worse case scenario they are LE and question you, just reply that someone taking photos didn't look right to you. Perhaps you have friends who live in the area with kids etc.
Or if you're a real A-Hole (like myself) pull right up in front of their vehicle facing them and kick on the KC Lights right in their face until they get the point. Just sayin'
If you're less willing to invoke wrath or arrest park a ways down the road facing them with your headlights on, that'll interfere with just about any camera. Act like you're checking your phone for texts or emails etc. See how long they're willing to wait you out!
[QUOTE=Galaxie;1876188]Took a drive down the zoo today, saw a better then average young blond. She was walking extremely slow, passed by a few times finally pulled up to talk to her. She walked up to my car and said " before I even get in, I don't go lower then 60 " I said "oh" and drove away. Sure didn't seem right to me. Saw an older Hispanic gal assuming that's the Jamie I read about. She has a nice smile, might invite her to dinner. Is she good company?[/QUOTE]I bet that was BP Kelly, she changes from her natural brown to blonde and back fairly often. She doesn't post much these days but has started to roam the Zoo rather frequently. She's not worth a Jackson in my book, just lays there and looks angry to be alive the entire time.
This her?
[url]http://lansing.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/something-sweet-you-wont-forget-incall-and-outcall-specials-19/12669932[/url]
The Hispanic gal was probably Jaimie, she's friendly, accommodating, and worth a go-round.
[QUOTE=Galaxie;1876188]She walked up to my car and said " before I even get in, I don't go lower then 60 " I said "oh" and drove away.[/QUOTE]I didn't think to comment on this with my last post but this attitude directly represents what I was referring to in post #1348 under Backpage Advertiser Reviews, where I wrote;
"I personally don't think ANY provider should earn a wage higher than someone who works for a living, which should price them around $15-$25 for a half-hour and $30-$50 for an hour."
These girls are putting out this attitude because guys are paying them these rates. You did the right thing man, if she wants that type of pay she should seriously consider law or med school. Anyone can do her "job" with no training whatsoever, in the real world this equals minimum wage. I say it again fellas, don't agree to anything over a Jackson for any of the girls walking the street. Even on BP very few of them are worth 40. If everyone starts taking the hardline stance that you did the attitude of these girls will change. Sooner or later they will get hungry and humility will bring them to the realization that their stuff is not dripping golden honey!
For those thinking me heartless, and about to write a scathing response I ask how many of you are making $30-$50 per hour? This is still over-paying by the standards of honest work.
[QUOTE=RoyGrisham; 1876397]I didn't think to comment on this with my last post but this attitude directly represents what I was referring to in post #1348 under Backpage Advertiser Reviews, where I wrote;
"I personally don't think ANY provider should earn a wage higher than someone who works for a living, which should price them around $15-$25 for a half-hour and $30-$50 for an hour."
These girls are putting out this attitude because guys are paying them these rates. You did the right thing man, if she wants that type of pay she should seriously consider law or med school. Anyone can do her "job" with no training whatsoever, in the real world this equals minimum wage. I say it again fellas, don't agree to anything over a Jackson for any of the girls walking the street. Even on BP very few of them are worth 40. If everyone starts taking the hardline stance that you did the attitude of these girls will change. Sooner or later they will get hungry and humility will bring them to the realization that their stuff is not dripping golden honey!
For those thinking me heartless, and about to write a scathing response I ask how many of you are making $30-$50 per hour? This is still over-paying by the standards of honest work.[/QUOTE]Roy-
Don't want to open up a can of worms but I wonder if we simply have different standards for determining a provider's value. The reason that providers can demand significantly above minimum wage is not that they have unique abilities. It is because they are WILLING. If every girl was willing to have sex with me I would pay the minimum but the simple fact is that few young hotties are willing to have sex with an old guy like me. When I find one who will, I am prepared to compensate them accordingly.
How much is too much? I don't know but each of us may have differing price resistance threshholds. Just today, while out west for a conference, I found a provider that was well-reviewed and willing to see me in my hotel room with a minimum of screening. We had a delightful time together. An erotic shower together, a nude lap dance, DATY, BBBJ, FIV and CFS. When we were finished we realized that neither of us had raised the matter of the expected donation. While her reviews seemed to suggest a flexible range, I had prepared an envelope with a donation at the high end. She was fine with this and so was I even though she had earned more than double my hourly wage. Was I being exploited or was she? I believe we eached received market value. You may disagree but I was not willing to ask random girls on the streets of Denver if they would have sex with me for $7. 25. Happy mongering, guys.
[QUOTE=RoyGrisham; 1876261]I bet that was BP Kelly, she changes from her natural brown to blonde and back fairly often. She doesn't post much these days but has started to roam the Zoo rather frequently. She's not worth a Jackson in my book, just lays there and looks angry to be alive the entire time.[/quote]Yep, that's her. She certainly had a bad attitude. Glad I didn't waste my time.
This is an age-old question that I don't know if anyone will ever agree on and where it would take a much larger group that us to truly sway the market. When you really think about it, the range of what is paid to different types of girls who are packaged differently is really astonishing. The top-end is much, much higher than 99 percent of us would pay. We obviously know that in Vegas, L. A, New York, other big cities, there are porn stars and other uber-hotties that command $1000 and more per session. But I will never believe that means I'm going to have 10x a better experience than the $100 gal I might get lucky to find on BP locally that will give me a good GFE experience. There's a lot of relativity involved or however you want to term it.
For me, I just won't pay more than about $200 for anyone, and if I do pay more than $120, she better be very good and easy on the eyes, too. But like many of us, there's times I felt like I overpaid and other times where I felt like I got a bargain. I'd love to think we could collectively bring the market down to $50 an hour or less, but I just don't see it happening. The number of mongers out there, even in Lansing, is much larger than those of us who read and post here. Could we have an impact of we all worked together? Maybe, but doubtful that it would truly change things. So I'm kinda in the middle on this.
[QUOTE=Otto22; 1876565]Roy-
Don't want to open up a can of worms but I wonder if we simply have different standards for determining a provider's value. The reason that providers can demand significantly above minimum wage is not that they have unique abilities. It is because they are WILLING. If every girl was willing to have sex with me I would pay the minimum but the simple fact is that few young hotties are willing to have sex with an old guy like me. When I find one who will, I am prepared to compensate them accordingly.
How much is too much? I don't know but each of us may have differing price resistance threshholds. Just today, while out west for a conference, I found a provider that was well-reviewed and willing to see me in my hotel room with a minimum of screening. We had a delightful time together. An erotic shower together, a nude lap dance, DATY, BBBJ, FIV and CFS. When we were finished we realized that neither of us had raised the matter of the expected donation. While her reviews seemed to suggest a flexible range, I had prepared an envelope with a donation at the high end. She was fine with this and so was I even though she had earned more than double my hourly wage. Was I being exploited or was she? I believe we eached received market value. You may disagree but I was not willing to ask random girls on the streets of Denver if they would have sex with me for $7. 25. Happy mongering, guys.[/QUOTE]
Passing through Lansing tonight around 9p and decided to take the stroll. At least 4 girls within a couple of blocks down towards the Dagwoods end. Was taking a lap through the neighborhood to get a better look at one and right off the path I came up on this nice, very eager WSW and scooped her up. Name may have been Sue, don't remember well. Went to park and for a Barry, she was very willing to give a BBBJ. Also very proud of the fact that she was happy to swallow the evidence. Nice girl, would repeat in a heartbeat.
As of late, I've been crusing off and on to catch a peek of the action as it would happen to play out today the streets were dead. Only one WSW out tonight, things looked pretty dead around 9:50PM or so.
Dreams of the good ol'days are still in my mind. I really wish we could import hoes for the stoll but I guess every one feels that way *sigh*
- King
Took the K-zoo stroll last night (this morning) around 1:45 am. Much to my surprise I found it to be quite busy. As I turned onto k-zoo from Penn a BSW tall, light skin with a mop-fro walking in the middle of the road. I'm like really? As I passed she turned to watch me drive away. At the other end was another bad very skinny long straight dark hair. I passed on her as well. Turned around and went back to see a young skinny WSW (I have dreamed of this girl before, she talks kinda slow is very slim and does not really know what to do. Kinda strange since she told me she has a child. .40 for FS, BBBJ was not good and will pass on her in the future). Another WSW this time dark hair and chubby. Passed. I was down almost to Penn when I see another WSW, again one I have dreamed of. I don't know her name but she looks good / young from afar but is pushing 40's. Dark hair shorter. I was looking for Cory. So I stopped and asked. Cory is in Jackson but this girl would be "50 times better". I passed since I had already dreamed of oral from her and that was not good. All in all. Could a / shoulda but didn't.
Well. She was out tonight. I picked her up around 8pm but she was NOT on clippert. She was on the west side of 127 on the corner of Mich and car dealership. Bf was sitting in the data stand watching. She looks OK. OK for a quick fix at least. I took her to that park that was dark and quiet CFS doggy with a super-fast spin move to cimws for. 40. She really gets into it and I believe she will do just about anything. If I decide to see her again, I would like to see that ass in the light!
Be safe-have fun
[QUOTE=DatyLvr; 1886978]Well. She was out tonight. I picked her up around 8pm but she was NOT on clippert. She was on the west side of 127 on the corner of Mich and car dealership. Bf was sitting in the data stand watching. She looks OK. OK for a quick fix at least. I took her to that park that was dark and quiet CFS doggy with a super-fast spin move to cimws for. 40. She really gets into it and I believe she will do just about anything. If I decide to see her again, I would like to see that ass in the light!
Be safe-have fun[/QUOTE]So I believe I saw this girl Thursday and Friday nights in a pink zip up shirt and black stretch pants. I've never scooped before but she was intriguing enough that I did actually cruise around the block for a second look. It was dark but she looks like she has an great ass and seems pretty good looking to me. I did kind of slow down at the turn onto mi ave and she was watching me. But as tempted as I was, the problem is that I have no idea how to 'scoop'. I'm pretty straight forward in general but "Hey do you want to fuck?" just doesn't seem right and I don't really have any game to speak of so I just continued on my way. She had me excited enough to cruise down the zoo as you guys call it and I saw another decent looking girl but again, knowing nothing, I just continued on. I will also say for the record, I don't know how you guys are ever able to describe these women, I see some hair and some tits and ass and then I'm past and not really sure if it was good or bad or young or old.
[QUOTE=DicksSmiling;1887397]So I believe I saw this girl Thursday and Friday nights in a pink zip up shirt and black stretch pants. I've never scooped before but she was intriguing enough that I did actually cruise around the block for a second look. It was dark but she looks like she has an great ass and seems pretty good looking to me. I did kind of slow down at the turn onto mi ave and she was watching me. But as tempted as I was, the problem is that I have no idea how to 'scoop'. I'm pretty straight forward in general but "Hey do you want to fuck?" just doesn't seem right and I don't really have any game to speak of so I just continued on my way. She had me excited enough to cruise down the zoo as you guys call it and I saw another decent looking girl but again, knowing nothing, I just continued on. I will also say for the record, I don't know how you guys are ever able to describe these women, I see some hair and some tits and ass and then I'm past and not really sure if it was good or bad or young or old.[/QUOTE]What I didn't say was that I waited for traffic to clear first. I don't like the idea of a bunch of people to see me pick up a girl. Especially one standing on a busy street corner! I pulled up with the window down and asked if she wanted to have some fun. That's it.
Have fun
Was out for a stroll, around 2 am. Still looking for my favorite dance partner! No luck. Did find a gal named Nicole, seem alright. Quoted me 40 & 80 settled on 30, pretty much a waste of time. Will continue to look for Cynthia, she's a blast to dance with. Would like to know if anyone's seen her around. Also know a spinner named Kaylyn she's good for hummer but haven't seen her out either.
Today. Around 2:30. Picked up Emma. She is tall and thin. Short bleached hair with dark roots lip piercing guaged ear piercing, will only do BBBJ. NO FS. My dream was. 40 with roaming. Very good technique! Strolls east of lucky's.
DatyLvr
Today. 1pm, police had a tall blonde with dark roots cuffed and put in a police car. It was just off Kalamazoo, on Hayford I believe it was one of our WSW.
[QUOTE=Arrow543;1892065]Today. 1pm, police had a tall blonde with dark roots cuffed and put in a police car. It was just off Kalamazoo, on Hayford I believe it was one of our WSW.[/QUOTE]SHIT. I wonder if its the girl I saw?
Brown hair in a pony tail. Slightly pudgy girl, with a belly, but nice boobs and cute enough face.
BBBJCIM. Very nice service. Deep enough, with appropriate speed and no gag reflex. All in all, a good experience.
My goodness, LE is sure putting a damper on any fun to be had at the zoo the last couple of days! On the other hand saw a few little honeys out and about. Meet a very energetic girl named Melissa, got her digits and am excited to give her a ring when I have some quality time to spend!
Met up with her the other day. Nice girl, actually college educated. Sounds like she is on the street only because she wants to keep her current bf, cause they are "ment" for each other I guess. She's a thicker girl, but nice shape. Nice 34 C / the melons with nice eraser tips to top them off. We met up for both ends and I had a good time. I will certainly repeat.
I saw MSP out around midnight tonight. They cruised to zoo possibly with some neighborhood watch, as there were a few strange people out. While I was leaving I saw LPD on Cedar and K-zoo.
Quite surprised this morning to head east on kzoo and noticed Tess from BP fame, looking very nice strolling back and forth in front of the barbershop near the farmer's market. She had the look, but it was quite foggy, but too sunny for me to take that kind of risk early in the morning. Plus, not enough meat on those bones.
[QUOTE=The Darq Ryder;1898193]Quite surprised this morning to head east on kzoo and noticed Tess from BP fame, looking very nice strolling back and forth in front of the barbershop near the farmer's market. She had the look, but it was quite foggy, but too sunny for me to take that kind of risk early in the morning. Plus, not enough meat on those bones.[/QUOTE]I have always wanted to find her on the street and sample her. That'sthe only reason I cruise the stroll. I hear she is not worth no prices. But the Mexican Jamie would be the other one I would like to try maybe. But I am not sure never picking up a SW before I would have the nervous to do it anyways.
Seen a very good looking Panhandler last night just south of Kalamazoo on Homer as I was getting off of 127 just south of the kzoo. She had dark brown hair about to her shoulders and a tiny ring in her nose on one side. She was about 23 years old.
Is this the one that everyone has had good luck with? She had a dog with her so I did not stop and talk to her.
Thanks.
Sure is dry to be so wet!
This is my first report here.
I tried to deal in a fairly indirect way, with panhandler girl on. Is it Holmes? A street along 127 anyway, on Thursday and Friday. Am thinking she's not interested. A pain in the ass maybe? Or maybe I just was too indirect. Seems to have panhandler boyfriend near bye.
Thanks to knowledge gained here, cruised "zoo" Thursday, Friday and Sunday. Saw fat W girl Thursday and Friday and somewhat interesting young Hispanic girl Friday. Sunday I cruised back and forth for at least an hour. Finally, a thick Black girl was yelling at me. And then, I actually saw a white person in the trade. Marie, or something like that. Nice enough girl. Certainly not lovely. Perhaps a five on SW scale of 1 to ten. She did semi thing. Diddling and licking. Fairly nice and let's hope, hygenic.
Seemed fairly intelligent. I drove her "home" to someplace way east of pickup at QD. Kind of a pain. I'd like to meet her again.
So my takeaway from first run at "ZOO" is you've got to keep at it for an hour or so. Wonder if there are any actually decent SW there.
Monday a medium build WSW was walking East, before I could scoop she crossed the street and met a guy at Market. It was early afternoon. Today, looked like Corey walking East around 1 PM. Last, Friday there was a cute Looking WSW near the closed store around 4 pm. I missed her as walked down the side street and got into a car. I had never seen her before.
Was heading over to escorts home near cedar and mt. Hope. When I turned down her road a cute sexy white gettho blond got picked up by a subburband.
It took me by surprise and a did a double take. We meet eyes before she climbed in and smiled.
Needless to say I'll be driving the area more often to see if she turns up again.
This happened about 330 last Thursday. Was good to see there are working girls in differnt areas of town.
Had a couple of "firsts" yesterday. I finally scooped up a panhandling gal we've talked about on here before and wound up taking her to the Hot House. The Hot House is a good deal and I can't believe I've never done it before. I know many of you have enjoyed it. I'd also consider doing her again, too, as she was friendly, a lot of fun.- as a few others have said.- and a GFE for me. Gave her a little xtra for Christmas.
She said she'd heard guys talked about her online and while she didn't seem to know about this site, she didn't want her name mentioned. So if you haven't figured out who she is already, or want other details, you can PM me.
Was out just to see who the tuff ones are, saw a young skinny little black girl she is usually on the east end of k-zoo. Hair is always pulled back tight. Does anyone have info on her? Is she worth the scoop?
[QUOTE=Galaxie;1950626]Was out just to see who the tuff ones are, saw a young skinny little black girl she is usually on the east end of k-zoo. Hair is always pulled back tight. Does anyone have info on her? Is she worth the scoop?[/QUOTE]Drove Down the Zoo from 127 to Penn at 3 pm today and saw 1 HSW and 2 WSW. The second WSW was just East of Penn and was bundled up with brown hat and shades. Looked kind of hot, but could not stop. I definitely would have. Strange to see 3 of them within 4 blocks (all on the north side of street) in this temp.
She's moved around a few times, of course, but haven't seen her at Howard and Michigan lately. But as I turned onto Michigan tonight, it looked like she was at another corner in the same general intersection: On Michigan eastbound at the Howard corner on the left side. Same place where the guitar guy normally is. Didn't get a great look from where I was turning, but pretty sure it was her.