Bad-news-Amy could be a good teacher... of bad signs.
Thanks Ceenote for your excellent reality check. She looked great from the street. (Did you mention how old she looked once she she got into the car?) At the risk of repeating what you already noted as the bad signs:
1) Messing with your car: no redialing the radio, no altering climate controls, no rifling through contents. She needs to at least PRETEND to want to please you.
2) You were right on about the tip being contingent on service provided. It must be earned.
3) Never give up the $ up front. She is now in control. At most, offer a token if she insists (but note the demerit). If she refuses without the $ up front, bye-bye. So be it.
4) Too rough with the oral attention, and ignored requests to lighten up? I think we noticed that pleasing you was a low priority. I am not sure why some SWs think that the rougher she is, the better we like it.
5) Finished yourself up while she sucked a nipple??? Things have gone from bad to worse. Wish you had a pic of this lame-O. Who wants to pay for pleasing yourself?
6) You need to buy her some smokes 'cause she has no ID!!! Now we know why she was so presumptuous in her actions. Younguns' think they own the world. GET HER OUT OF THE CAR as soon as possible and get the hell out of there. Doesn't it seem likely that you were doing a minor? Thank the god of mongering that LE did not stop you. Wow. I suspect you dodged a bullet.
Thanks again Ceenote for an excellent, info-rich post. All experienced mongers have had these experiences, but (luckily) seldom all on the same date.
Giani
[QUOTE=Ceenote]Late Sunday night met a WSW going by name of Amy on McMick near McMill. Guessed her to be mid twenties, bleach blonde with some dark roots showing, decent little package wearing tight jeans and a body hugging pink top. Once in the car, she was complaining about being cold and starts fiddling with the climate control instead of asking (bad sign #1).
Once on the roll, engaged her in some conversation and go through the checks and she is more than a just little messed up (bad sign #2). Agreed to .2 for bbbj but she inquires immediately about a tip. Let her know that I am always agreeable to showing appreciation for above and beyond service and she was okay with that so off to a secure location.
She wanted the .2 up front and things started out fine and was enjoying the attention, but once Lil Cee was at full mast she was just too rough. Commented more than once to slow down and go easy, but ground control wasn't reaching major Tom and she just didnt get it. Finished up myself while watching her with one tit popped out of her top and she licked/sucked her nipple.
Back on the roll and she brings up the tip to which I replied that I didn't see that the service warranted one. She did not comment further on that topic, but then wanted to know if I would drop her at a gas station so she could get smokes. I did not necessarily have a problem with that but she also says that I would need to go in to get them because she didn't have an id (bad sign # whatever). I told her how she was gonna buy the smokes was her problem after I dropped her off. She gives a sad puppy dog look and I repeated myself. Well now she cops an attitude and suddenly the smokes weren't important and she wants out at the next street. I stopped, she snatched up her coat, got out and never uttered another word.
She was standing still when I made the pick, but had I seen her shuffling along the way she did after I made the drop it would have been a good indication of how out of it she was and I probably would not have stoppped.
Bottom line: BEST TO AVOID![/QUOTE]
I end up "dating" a BSW that I mentioned in post#516
As the result of a favorable review on this forum, I called Kimberly (has an ad on CL). She answered after a couple of rings and said I could come right over. When I got near the area she gave me I called back (several times) and kept getting a generic recorded message. I gave up and headed north to Cincy. I called to leave a message that I had given up and she answered the phone. She said, "something was going on and she couldn't do it today." Might have been a legit excuse, who knows?
Anyway, I see a very heavy BSW on McM. I think it is the same one I mention in post #516. In that earlier post, I described her as "on the high side of 250 with mams the size of hams." So I pull up, lower the side window, and ask if she wants a ride. She smiles and says she doesn't need a ride, she needs money. I say that we can probably work something out and she gets in. Says her name is Destiny (yeah, right) and that she is 24 (probably pretty close). Now this girl is BIG - she weighs 60 to 80 pounds more than me, but she is so soft spoken that you don't fear she might attack you.
Anyway, on the way to a spot I ask how I can be sure she is "safe" to be with and not LE. Now I know she isn't LE, but I kind of like to have them do a little manual lap dance on the way to the spot. She says she was wondering if I were safe. I convince her that I am and she obliges with a few friendly fingers in my lap.
We get to a spot and I am surprised she hasn't asked for $ up front. I give her $20 and explain that I want the world's best HJ and a chance to examine her upper chest area. Her boobs are enormous, way more than a handful. She takes directions (position, speed, number of hands to use) well and the only thing that would have made it better is to not have to watch out for LE or others.
Up close I notice that she could really use a good wax job on those facial hairs, but fortunately that isn't a big turn off for me. She said she has only been on the street since last summer and used to be on CL as Destiny or Betty Boop. Of course her name isn't Destiny, but I think she finally gave me her real name (Arianna).
I am sure she is not for everyone, but if you like them young, Big, Black, and Boobed, she might be alright for you. I would rate her looks at 6 for her face, 3-4 for her very over weight body, and 8-9 for her huge breasts. I would give her a 9 for attitude as she was friendly, willing, and totally non-rushed. The "non-rushed" part, IMHO, usually means she isn't a butter user. She herself claimed to be strictly a weed user. Her size pretty well rules out heavy meth use.
While her appearance will be a turn off for many, all I could see as she was stroking was her face and her breasts, so the rest was sort of a non-issue. I asked for digits and got them. I asked her if she were like most SWs who run out of minutes on a regular basis and she smiled and said no. Then said she had minutes "almost all the time." I liked her.
I asked if she wanted me to drop her where I picked her up and she said "yes." But on the way, she asked me to drop here at that D & D Mart on McM. I'm betting, based on her size, that she was feeling the need for some Ho Hos or Twinkies or something.
On the drive home, I noticed two hand rolled cigarettes in the center console. Of course I figured they were joints and called her to tell her I'd save them for when I saw her again (I haven't done weed in over 20 years and had no interest in them). She said "no, it's just tobacco. You KNOW I wouldn't have left weed in your car." BTW, they were just tobacco.
For everyone concern. Use the "easy button "!
It is NOT always P.C. the way we post here , and all the names for things we use, and if you look at some of the President Obama posted here you would think some of these folks are Stone Cold Racist. I am not certain if they aren't. But they still post here on this site. So I use the "EASY Button" if I don't like what they are saying, and simply put them on my ignore list. It is the best thing Jackson could have ever done. Everyone here is not going to be P.C., especially myself when it comes to talking about women on the streets, and doing what they do, for whatever reason.
I use the term Fags Hoes, Tricks, and More, and if it offends anyone they I expect to be put on their Ignore List. That is OKAY with me, because I will gladly do it to them. It is what it Is !
I have read the post of almost everyone in the Cincy Forum, including Mr.Boombastic, and I have met him personally, among many other posters, and I use the same terminology as he does, and we are not PC about it.
I am more concerned about fellow members "Flaming" each other, more than calling HOSW ..... "Fags". If any person want to live their life as a Homosexual, I can care less, and if they want to get married, let them. I don't have to always know their sexual orientation, and I don't ask, but sometime it has been made obvious.
So in short if the terminology used here offends you, it will be offensive across the whole site, so you might have to use the EASY Button alot.
I don't think anyone here is willing to change, but if you can change any forum opinions, then you will spend more time correcting members than posting information which is the reason the greater percent of Us are even here.
[QUOTE=Sam Vance]There's a 'type' out there for everyone, whether it be man, woman, both, black, white, Asian, etc. No need to use demeaning hate speech like 'fag' or refer to them as 'it'. Like it or not, the t-girls and gay men are a part of the SW community and any I'll treatment they receive counts as abuse of the sex workers as a whole and fuels efforts to further fund vice squads that lead to the arrest of. You and the SW that you want to see. Just something to think about.[/QUOTE]
I have had more productive afternoons.
What a beautiful day! I figured that being one of the last nice days we would have in awhile that the SWs would be out in force. So I called in sick to work and headed to OTR.
What a mistake.
For starters, road work on the Vine Street hill and road work on Liberty just past Main made circuiting a PITA. Plus it had the added effect of discouraging the SWs from hanging around their usual spots, since the road crews had a LEO escort. Traffic congestion was terrible.
Then, for some unknown reason, LEO was in packs everywhere else. Green Street was blocked off for a long time, as was Race by Elder. Then the LEO cyclists were out. Trying to have a casual, low visibility cruise was simply impossible because it felt like I was alway driving past one. (I don't think it was a concerted effort by LEO.)
At one point, I slipped down Dunlop just in the off hopes. And it was a tranny convention like I have never seen before. There had to have been eight or so of them. But they weren't what I was looking for.
Did see a few regular SWs out, but nothing I desired.
I finally had a bit of luck refueling at the Shell station over by Camp Washington Chili with a WSW in her earlier 20s. Went over to Interstate to close that deal. Never would have noticed her if it wasn't for that SW "look" they give with their eyes. Glad I paid attention!
Ladies, Please Meet a Monger Halfway....
Dear Honeypie SWs,
Please know that I never will stop for any of you while you are "on-the-leash".-- that is to say you are walking point and some dude with a crooked cap is walking 50 feet to almost a block behind you or sitting on a nearby stoop.-- that makes me most uncomfortable. It is so freakin' obvious! Pimp? LEO? I don't care. I don't need the hassle. However, several of you (three to be exact) lost out today because of that.
Please know that while I am attempting to stop for you and/or making sure the area is safe, please do not flag me down as if I am in a caution lap at the Indy 500. One of you lost out today because of that behavior. I know this has been covered here before, but geez! I see you, you see me, and I'm not deaf so I don't need the hand/arm gestures.
Please know that a little "dress up" goes a long way. At least try a little bit. Think of it as a Return on Investment.
That is all that is irking me today.
Sincerely,
Soleil 81
ASIAN "SW's" .... in CINCY .... Hummm !!!!
I would have like to have more intell on that one. Plus I would like to have seen what she looked like, and what the dude looked like. That can tell a lot! I think you should check out the location for the next week or two and see if you see her/them, again. It is especially good if you see the dude with other SW's. It is very easy to spot an Asian SW, because she would stand out, be very well known, because she would be the only one working.
Can you believe this. I saw a White Guy Pimp. Yea! He had about 3-5 decent working girls working for him. I call them decent, even though the one I approached I really did have a good feeling about. I just don't like really skinny girl, because they look "SICKLY" and two of the girls looked to be TOO THIN. And you know what that might be. The other girl were bunched up trying to stay warm, between two building at the street gateway. I have seen them there before, and I think I was with a couple of them, before they got to the location walking down McM. I won't give up the exact location, but if you are a real cruiser, you can find it without much help. It is not on the end pass Marshall, so keep South of that. If you find them/it, you can get some decent WSW, and some very decent rates under 30 buck for FS.
Next, the Hottest area is not McM & Mohawk, but McM near MLK !!!! Dist. #5 is putting the area on the Hot List. It must be working, because SW's have moved there location. Some of the residents were using the cover of the SW's to make some extra money themselves without walking the stroll. When the SW's are around everyone living around just fits in. Once they move, the resident SW's stand boldly out. I have picked up ALOT of Young BSW? WSW's. I did not want to post it, because they really did live in the area, but they were not regular PRO hardcore SW's. Yhey just saw an opportunity to make extra money. Some wanted too much money, like 75-100 bucks, and other thought making a quick 30 buck was GGGrrrreattt! Eventually they all buckled and excepted 30 buck for FS, and the better once with good attitudes got 35-40, and a ride to their location. Often they were on their way to work, going to the store, or walking to and from home or friends. Now, I I don't see them as much, but I don't have as much time anymore, and with it being colder, few are out walking, thus I don't see as many anymore. But they are still out, but they will have to get use to you. Some of these young girl will try you, and have piss poor attitudes, but if you can deal with it for a while, they will reveal themselves and part of their intent. It can be a slow process, just be REAL with THEM!
[QUOTE=Ceenote]Does anyone have knowledge of an Asian working OTR? Thurs night around 11:30pm spotted what appeared to be an ASW walking solo on McMick from Elm toward Race. A real spinner type body at all of 5ft nothing, jet black hair, and white pants.
I slowed to take a look and she looked too but was uncertain if it was THE look. I didn't want to attempt to offer a ride because from her current location I couldn't view who might be watching from the back of the church parking lot just ahead on the left. As it turned out that lot was empty, but chose to circle the block (a couple of blocks actually) just to case the area out of concern because I have never seen her out before.
On the circle back she had now teamed up with a dude and they were hanging on Henry? Midway down the block. Dude being involved always means pass for me. A few minutes later the pair was headed south on Elm and then never saw her again.
Very possible that it was only wishful thinking and that she NOT working, but thought I would throw it out to the trusty knowledge base here to see what you know.[/QUOTE]
Answered my own question: Not Asian
Met "Georgia" in the wee hours this a.m. about 1 block away from my original sighting. Wasn't as thrillling up close as she looked on the drive by the other night, but that is often the case. Her heritage is Amer Indian and Spanish, but says she is often confused for Asian.
A little on the flakey side with lots of chatter about karma, God looking out for her, and getting ripped off earlier by someone that she knew. Took a while looking for a place and ended up quite a distance from the point of pick up, but she was not in any rush. I didn't like her choice so we found a secondary location.
Talked about services being sought but no amount was discussed. When ready to deliver she did want it in advance. So .2 was given and it was accepted with no further haggling. Asked if I wanted to supersize my meal for an additional .1, but my monger wallet only contained another .02 so passed. Said her p**sy is very small and tight and that I should enjoy it the next time. An entheusiastic bbbj was given while playing with her very tiny, almost non existant titties. Plenty of room to be had for mobile FS in my vehicle, but she mentioned a room available for use for .1
No digits but said she has a friend that can be contacted to reach her. I did not get that number because on the drop, a block or two away from the pick, she wanted me to stick around. I waited til she disappeared into the building and then bailed.
OTHER NOTES: Many new faces (at least new to me) out last night between 12:30am to 2:30am. Interesting brunette at Rowan & Race, but sticking too close to her handler. Body appeared to be quite nice, but hair was shielding the majority of her face so perhaps that wasnt as nice.
Walking south on McMic coming from MLK were a pair in schoolgirl type plaid skirts and boots to the knee that might have been TGTBT with the heat that is being applied to that area. Saw no LE in the vacinity but doesnt mean they weren't there. Had already enjoyed service and was in route back to the burbs so did not investigate this pair further.
[QUOTE=Ceenote]Does anyone have knowledge of an Asian working OTR? [/QUOTE]
Angie - Be carfule Rip off
My friend went driving down on Elm and offered a ride to Angie. She was pleasant enough although after about 10 minutes she could wait to get to her destination. After another 5 min he couldn't take the complaining about how long the drive was taking and decided to drop her back off at Elm. As Angie was collecting her bag of whatever she decided to collect his cell phone. Luckily he noticed before she took two steps from the car. As he jumped out and circled around the front of the car to chase her down she placed the cell phone on the floor board of the car and acted like it was there all the time. He told me he saw her putting it there however decided not to make a big deal of the situation and collected the phone and quickly jumped back in the car and left the area.
Be forewarned if you offer her a ride.
Jumper
It Is Just Too Easy To Be To Risk The Chance
I so totally agree about these drugged out women taking the chance to steal anything from anyone. I am not for certain about an SW being killing over stealing and/on robbing someone, I have heard some have, but I can't point to a case of one, but I can tell you that a few have had the crap beat out of them.
I am talking about being put in the hospital for days, and in a case or two weeks. It wasn't always a monger that did it, but a local who they tried to rip-off, and they got a worse beat-down than the actual offense.
Look at the SW Bill wrote about Denise. Man she got several beat-downs, before going to jail, and may have a few waiting on her once out.
Look at Sauna, a few years back, she snitch (????) on some drug boyz, and they had there friend beat her up, and she got brually beat up and was never ever the same. Sauna was a pretty nice looking WSW, tall, thin, nice looking, and skilled. But the police forced her to snitch to stay out of jail, and then dumped her on the streets with no protection, and she almost lost her life.
Next is Short Body, who is still on the streets today. I warned people about her, because she got me for 10 bucks. I was doing her Aunt who worked the Mohawk area, and her Aunt was very nice, especially when she started dressing up, with dresses and high-heels.Anyway Short Body who is just like her name, had corner boys throwing glasses bottles at her, and running sfter her everytime they saw her. It got so bad, she stopped strolling in OTR/WE/LPH/UPH. She had to go to WH/EVAN/AVON/Etc, until they ran her from there.
It is just too easy for any SW to take the risk, and try to steal, rip-off folks, rob, and everything else. I mean SW who have never ever ripped me off, have done it to others because MOST TIMES, it is a CRIME of OPPORTUNITY. Remove the opportunity, and you remove 90% or more of the risk of everything.
It is crazy that car manufacturers don't still put locks on glove boxes. I had SW actually open my glove box, being nosey, or pulling down my over head visor, looking for what ???? I went off on them, and I mean off, and they never did it again. Nor has anyone ever touch my radio again. I go off about that too.
You BEST believe the people arrested in Hamilton are not members of this forum. I am telling you because just in the HOME page it tells you the do's & don'ts about mongering. Everyone know NEVER to talk through your car window, about business. This is not NYC or LAX. Even there the rules apply, but are more relaxed. It seems that STINGS in Hamilton are too easy to do, and the locations are limited for picking up SW's in Hamilton.
I would imagine very few locals are caught in them, because they know better spots to pick them up at, but others just know the most popular spot like MYSELF, and I don't use them anymore. In Hamilton you just NEVER know. The LE want it that way.
The trailer park, near the White Castle, is private property, and the SW's work close to it, but LE can't place a STING inside the trailer park, only by it.
I use to know folks in the T.P., and would visit them to make my moves, but Hamilton is too far for me now, and my friend there have moved, so I seldom get to Hamilton. Plus, the picking were not that good to begin with. I had a young girl I use to see, and I use to do her, and her roommate, and their aunt too. They lived in a house about 3-4 streets down from the W.C./TP.
These women were real SEXUAL FREAKS, and I truly miss them.
So it was a real bonanza for me, but every now and then I would see a real star near the TP and wanted to try her too. Plus, there was a spot down pass the RR tracks, that had a few stars on it
LASTLY .... Reduce the Opportunity for any SW or Anyone, to take anything from you. Don't leave items out front, or if you must make it confusing by putting other useless items in front of it , on it, or just around it. Make it difficult, confusing, or just out of sight. Most won't play that much attention. MAYBE?
[QUOTE=Blkharvard]Man thats why don't mess with this anymore. These drugged up bitches have no respect for the game. Its really too bad and sad. From the girls point of view. Is stealing a cell phone worth your life? Because thats whats going to happen one day. Some john is going to kill a ***** for robbing him.[/QUOTE]
A little Sherry before dinner
It's been a while since I have been out and about looking for SWs. Yesterday I was cruising down Linn St. and saw a BSW who looked promising. She was on the heavy side, but not huge, and had a decent face. I made the scoop and headed for a motel on Central. She gave her name as Sherry and said she was 39 years old and lived in Western Hills. She said she wasn't out on the street that often and was in the area where I picked her up to take care of a relative of hers who is blind.
I asked her about the two other girls I have picked up in this area of Linn St., and she said that she knew Shay but was not familiar with Denise.
She displayed a good attitude and better than average skills. It seems like these heavy girls are less likely to be rushed as compared to the skinny ones. Maybe the heavy weights are less likely to be on crack or meth?
As usual, her cell had no minutes, so I didn't get digits. But we did agree to meet about a week from now and I guess I'll see if she is reliable enough to show up on a day that far into the future.
Did they take the day off?
It was a beautiful day to cruise today and that's what I did this afternoon.
There weren't many providers out, just a few of the emanciated ones.
Two or three were old, old faces that are starting to look like living skeletons.
Thre was the 50's ish blond near mohawk who isn't emanciated with her neckline almost to her nipples. I forget her name but I've had her a couple of times and don't pick her up for performance issues.
Did the others fly south for the winter?
Perchance to Dream: The Sequel
Well, Lady Luck smiled on me on a rainy day earlier this week: I spotted Misty again! (See my original post #606).
I only had limited time to monger, and the rain wasn't helping matters. But sure enough, down near Frisch's on Central I spotted a few SWs, and one of the was Misty.
She was standing there in the rain, hair wet, looking like a lost puppy. Especially with those big round eyes of hers. She recognized my car and me instantly, hopped in after gave me a huge hug and a warm hello. Not wanting to waste anytime, we quickly secured a room, warmed up the room, dried her off and spent another wonderful 90+ minutes together.
She wasn't dressed as nicely (just average this time) as in #606 (but she was freshly showered & clean). I find her very attractive & we are quite comfortable & at ease with each other. She's lost some weight since then; sadly, for all the wrong reasons.
Dropping her back off, I was determined to operate my cell correctly and actually save her phone number this time, I found out she no longer has her cellphone period. Too bad, as I was looking for a cool regular over these upcoming cold months I could just call. I also asked for a picture again but she politely said no.
She was kind enough to suggest I come back later and just hang out with her (I had pending dinner obligations). I would have enjoyed that as well, but I just didn't have the free time.
She's a nice person with a good heart; if you give her a ride treat her nice and she'll treat you nice as well.
Mona Is One Who Is Depenable/reliable/friendly !!!!!
That says a lot about a WSW or any SW, who has a drug habit. Ya Mona has one, but it has not taken over her to the point of others.
Mona is out there more than others, and all times of the day, but I think of her a friend like I do Georgia. The two of them are the older ladies of the Track/Stroll. They are also some of the few who keep hygiene up and know when to keep the Police off their backs.
LE knows them, but they both play the game well enough to avoid being hassled.
Mona can dress SEXY, and will sometimes but often dresses to fit the area. I have never seen her yelling at car, doing any heavy waving, or have I ever seen her on the streets High or Out-of-It. She likes to do her drugs in her place, and she lives near by.
Mona knows everyone, will speak to everyone, and is never any trouble. She prefers to walk away, than get into an argument. She has been on the streets since 2000, as I have known her, and she said it was before that.
So if you are ever with Mona, give her a break, and be thankful that she is not going to try to Rip-U-Off, Rush-U, Stink_Up your Car, Run Her Mouth over nothing or Get On Your Nerves. Plus, she is very easy to work with on every level. So, if you can get pass Mona's age, then she is a REAL BARGAIN, for the streets. So is Georgia. If you see them being hassled, help out, give them a ride to another location, or just a ride home.
For them you can be "Capt. Sav-A-Hoe. "
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[QUOTE=Soleil 81]If its the one I'm thinking of, I see her out moreso than any of the others. She interested me because she is one of the few with a bosom out there, but she looks so much like my first wife I just can't go there.
Again, assuming we are thinking of the same person, I have seen 'Mona' out in all types of clothes. Including your desired 'Orange County'. And she did look mighty fine in it all. Heeled boots included. If you see her again, you might suggest her dressing up in that gear. She obviously own it![/QUOTE]