Strip Club Reports

Guys, I am brand new here (2 posts) and none of you has any reason to pay attention to me but please let me quote a post from a guy on the vegas board:
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"Mongers,

I am here to say be careful.

I frequent Vegas often, I am moving there next year, and its good.

YOU guys have options.

Pick any street Arville, Flamingo, Tropicana, Decatur, etc... Amps can be found in every minimall. All open 24 hours!

Dont post s**t here about any of these numerous places. Tell newbies to get the local paper or simply walk or drive to certain areas and, bingo if they open their eyes, it will be self evident to all but the stupidest mongers.

Once, years ago we had it this good in the SFV too. Alas, our Kamps closed at 10pm.

Long story short we went from more than 35 Kamps & Lamps operating openly. To none.

Finally, we are experiencing a resurgence in "real" quality amp play. It is very discreet, expensive, and dangerous due to constant LE oppression.

So my friends be smarter than the man and keep the vital intel off of the open threads. Use the PM feature. The senior members here will appreciate it more than YOU will ever know..."

Peace, V da Sadist

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Again, please understand that I am new and am certainly not trying to tell you how to run your board - a board which I think is excellent. I don't have a solution regarding how to pass on the info we all want through this board, but some of you smarter than I folks can figure it out. I know that initially I am screwing myself because I'm not senior and likely no one will PM me with the actual info I seek; strip establishment names, girls names, costs, etc. but in the long run maybe the vegas posters advice will be good for everyone. Frankly, I used the info I found here yesterday and got incredible service yesterday at an incredibly low price - service and pricing I had no idea was available in St. Louis. Anyway, thanks for reading the rants of a newbie if you made it this far.

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=G C1122]Honey who use to be at the Chameleon asked to tell you mongers that starting Saturday the 6th she will be working the day shift at Blondies. She would like all her old friends to stop in and say hi and I am sure she would make you a new friend.[/QUOTE]

Catzplatz? had a report last April about a Honey, skinny black gal, at Miss Kitty's, could that be the one? Anything else you can tell us about her?

Damn, Saturday in the day is usually a good rime for me to get away, but no play funds today. But, I can get away during the days a lot so might swing by Blondies next Wed/Thursday.

Perhaps I should start going before the casinos, lol

Welcome Whomon12. Thanks for sharing, and very glad you had success.

[QUOTE=Whomon12]Guys, I am brand new here (2 posts) and none of you has any reason to pay attention to me but please let me quote a post from a guy on the vegas board:[/QUOTE]

For now anyways, Washington Park is just different. It's crazy but that is just the way it is. Part of its economics, local politics, and probably corruption too. It is highly doubtful that we will post anything on this board that the local LE and politicos don't already know.

I see two levels of clubs in the metro-east area. There are the legit clubs. Those would be any of the PT's, Roxy's, Penthouse, Hustler, and Hollywood Showclub. Then there are the other clubs such as C-Mowes, Chameleon (too bad its burnt), Blondies, Soft Touch, and Dollies. I guess there are also some inbetween clubs like Miss Kitty's, Crystal Palace, Wise Guys, Bottom's Up, and Pink Slip. Openly sharing information about the non-legit clubs probably isn't going hurt anything or anybody. BUT PLEASE DON'T post specific dancer information from the "legit club". I believe that is best kept as private as possible. The people running Blondies or Dollies aren't going to give a fuck if a dancer is doing bj's or fs or whatever but the people running PT's, Hustler, etc do.

Another reason I don't believe its a good idea to post specific dancer information from the legit clubs is that in most cases its a highly YMMV situation. If I posted that dancer A at PT's did x,y,AND z to me for $$, that doesn't mean she'll automatically be willing to do the same for some other guy who reads about it here and decides to look her up. Also just because Dancer B fingered fucked herself millimeters from my nose and mouth and then guided my own fingers into her very wet vagina at the Hollywood doesn't mean she'll do that for everyone, heck that was 3 months ago and she hasn't done it again for me! lol.

I'm worried about that new club in Brooklyn called Peek-A-Boo. When I was in town last month, I tried visiting the club at 4 or 5 PM, I think it was. But the doors were locked. The other clubs in town were open. The Peek-A-Boo is a very nice-looking building from the outside. What's the story there; why would it be closed? Also, is it a white club, black club, or mixed?

I can't wait for more clubs to open. PT's is starting to monopolize the area. They need more competition. PT's owns both Sauget clubs, both Brooklyn white clubs, and one of the two Centreville clubs. They don't have a foot in Washington Park right now.

Both the cities of Sauget and Brooklyn are strictly PT's land.

[QUOTE=Rosco2]I'm worried about that new club in Brooklyn called Peek-A-Boo. When I was in town last month, I tried visiting the club at 4 or 5 PM, I think it was. But the doors were locked. The other clubs in town were open. The Peek-A-Boo is a very nice-looking building from the outside. What's the story there; why would it be closed? Also, is it a white club, black club, or mixed?

I can't wait for more clubs to open. PT's is starting to monopolize the area. They need more competition. PT's owns both Sauget clubs, both Brooklyn white clubs, and one of the two Centreville clubs. They don't have a foot in Washington Park right now.

Both the cities of Sauget and Brooklyn are strictly PT's land.[/QUOTE]Rosco Where is Peek a Boo located? I have benn visiting Wsh Park for years and have never seen that club all though it's new I was in the Park a couple of weeks ago

This is a figment of my imagination to be used for entertainment purposes.

Called one of the ladies who gave me her phone # a week prior. Scroll back and read my last review. I had tentative plans to be with her for a minute and head off to a casino. She looked fine in her street clothes--I immediately pictured her up on the stage dancing. She asked what to do, and I muttered something about getting a drink first. She said great--I asked her where she'd like to go. She pointed and I drove. We talked--she's cool and not on drugs execpt for a blunt avery now and then.

We get to one of those clubs that has a store connected to it, and she says that she buys her outfits there. I suggest we stop there, browse, and have some drinks.

Gentlemen, if you glean nothing from this report, remember this: some of these ladies--probably more than we care to admit--can really make you feel like the stud of the month if you treat them like they are your lady. Can you see me in the club with a nice looking dancer in her regular clothes, her arm in mine? And both of us going up and tipping the entertainment? Felt like a playboy in that place. The single guys looking at me like I got something they don't, the few other couples too shy to do anything but sit there and grin. Damn, it was great. Another dancer sat with us and started flirting--said it was cool to see two grown and sexy people who were comfortable with their sexuality. And we got her digits too for a later date.

We left after she was loosened up. Got a room and to business. I had her give a striptease and move to a lapdance just like the club. But the only difference is that I wasn't restricted. Moved to the bed--daty--bbbj. Cfs missionary, cowgirl. She rubbed herself until she gushed. Could've gone all night, but she was sweating like hell--obviously tired (so was I). Tossed her on her side and held her down. She started to ask for doggie, but when they do that I go harder until they beg. We switched to that and I really started getting the groove on. Looking at us in the mirror. Looking down at that nice ass shaking like it does on stage. Damn. Pulled out, pulled off, gripped it and made my mark on that ass still dancing for me. Lotta foul language throughout.

Definitely a worthwhile experience. Put me back the rest of the weekend mongering, but I'd do that again in a heartbeat. Might even do it again soon with the same lady. Could go on and on, but this post is getting long. Sorry.

Could someone give more information about where in Brooklyn the new club is located? Rosco, it could just be that they aren't ready to open yet. Bottom's Up had their sign up and building all painted for quite awhile before it actually opened up for business.

I don't think PT's is starting to monopolize the area. They haven't really added any clubs in years.

[QUOTE=Jannisary]Could someone give more information about where in Brooklyn the new club is located?[/QUOTE]
Jannisary, the Peek-A-Boo club is located across the street from the Pink Slip and S&L Rub, if I remember right. It's easy to spot.

For those who may not know, the Pink Slip and Bottoms Up are the 2 black clubs in Brooklyn. By black clubs, we mean the dancers are black. The customers are all colors.

There was a dancer a few years ago at Platinum named Skylar. Low to mid 30's, petite, brunette, good looking, usually wore a black cowboy hat. I moved out of the area and heard she was working at Miss Kitty's under the name Catherine. Can anyone confirm or refute?

Thanks

Extras to be had. Wed 6pm 5 blacks dancers (3-5 scale).

As soon as I sat down, a nasty looking one sat with me, rubbed me asked if I wanted to fuck. After declinign another approached, same thing. She was a little better looking but I declined as well.

I made another visit last night to the Centreville area to see if VIP was open back up yet. It's not open yet. The guy in the silver truck said it would be reopen in February.
A word of caution to my fellow visitors to the Centreville tourist attractions....when visiting VIP, DO NOT venture into the parking lot over to the side of the VIP driveway. I went up into that parking lot, more or less out of curiosity, and was greeted by the guy in the silver truck, with a shotgun stuck in my face. Once I answered a few questions he relaxed and answered my questions about VIP. Maybe he was having a bad night, but I wouldn't risk that again. He came from NOWHERE and scared the SHIT out of me.

Just looked at the Brooklyn thread and saw that most of the club reports go here. I know I always check both on the site, and I'm assuming most of you guys do to.

The door to the Peek-A-Boo was locked at 10:30pm. I've never seen any traffic/parked cars there in the last couple months. Sorry, but I forgot to ask the doorman at Bottoms if the Peek was even open at all. It sure don't look like it. There's cardboard over the door, but looks like some lights on like someone's possible doing some work in there.

The smoking ban has hit the clubs hard. You can stand outside and b.s. with guys you probably wouldn't b.s. to otherwise, so I guess that's a good thing. Guys are guys, and smokers freezing their asses off share a common bond.

I stayed for a 1.5 hours. Way more dancers than guys. Got semi-private dance from 7face 10body (I kid you not) 7attitude at standard .25/dance--YMMV. She had all the right whispers going while grinding reverse cowgirl. In the middle she commented about me, and I let the tip pop out. She reached around, sheilding me from whoever might walk in, and offered hj. I asked for more, but she said that with so few people in the club it was easy to get into trouble. In fact some arse did check up on us.

I've been practicing various techniques with the money in my pocket. I usually take the entire wad, fold it in half, rubber the middle, and stuff it in my side pocket. But I found that when payday is due I'm exposing how much money I have. So now I fold each .2 from one corner diagonally down, and then fold the bill in half. I can then quickly count the money in my hand while it's still in the pocket.

But last night I took out the entire wad to let her know I had a rubber. She commented on it, and I said I am always prepared when I mean business. This started off a conversation about meeting outside sometime. Got her digits. Only had two dances and tipped an extra .1. Had a tough time walking out without looking stiff-legged. Looked to score a sw to finish off the night, but went home with a pole. Oh well--the hunt & fantasy was worth it.

Got in touch with her the next day. Will use that as a post later this week.

Ok, so the next day I call the dancer from the club. She's up to meet. We pick out a public place in the early afternoon to meet and go from there. I think I mentioned in the last post that this lady is hot hot hot. Young and hot. And the "young" label immediately signals apprehension on my part.

So on my way to the place I call to make sure she's still on schedule. She tells me about some major crisis going on that will require money to straighten out. More red flags. She says she's going to meet me like we arranged. I get there and wait. And wait. And wait. She's twenty minutes late and calls me, saying she is waiting for her ride. I thought she had her own car, but she said she let her friend use it to pay some bills. She says she'll only be ten more minutes. Eleven minutes later I use one of my other numbers; twelve minutes later I have a different date; fifteen minutes later the crisis lady calls and is upset that I wouldn't wait for her.

I'm not sure if that bridge is burned, but from my experience I've learned that the young ones are still learning the game and think that every guy out there is a sucker. "My baby needs diapers. " "It's my sister's birthday tomorrow, and I don't have anything to give her. " "Ameren made a mistake on my billing and is going to turn my shit off on two days. " etc etc. It's generally best to walk, because if you do end up spending more than you intended, she'll expect the same amount or more the next time. I think the thing that gave her away on this incident is her sudden change in tone. At the first phone call she was all giggly and happy, and the call from the road she seemed rushed and enmergency-like.

So I did end up spending the better part of the afternoon with a dancer in her "regular" personality. We ate at a restaurant and bullshitted about other dancers and the guys that come to the club--LOL. Like our first date, I felt like a king with a sexy confident woman on my arm. Turns out she's got a kinky side too, and she called a friend and made a date for us three. (boiiiiiingggg) We got a room around six for a couple hours and did the exchange. Well worth it.

Honey there live and hot.come play with Honey she is looking to make new friends and visit with old ones. Come live the good life and treat yourself to a real New Years treat.

Cruising WP on a rare day off. Pulled into Dollies. Two guys, one an old white guy and the other, a middle-aged black guy were having animated discussion at the outside of the front door. Decided to keep moving and come back later.

Before I could get out of the parking lot, a dark blue S-10 with three women in the front seat pull along side me. Driver is rolling down her window and talking, cig in mouth. I stop, roll down my window. She asks if I am looking for some fun? I asked what kind of fun? She says are you a cop or anything? I said no. She said she wasn’t either, what kind of fun do I like? I looked over the three of them. The driver was blonde, near spinner, about a 4/5, looked about 35+, headed towards hagness. The other two were brunettes, thin, looked young, felony young. Driver said take your pick of us. I said your two friends look pretty young. They all denied they were under age. The one brunette said she had four kids. She looked every day of 17.

The driver says what do you like baby? Do you like blow jobs? Sure, who doesn’t I said. She said I can give you the best BJ. (BTW. I never hear a woman say this outside, away from a strip club for some reason? ) I said how much? She said $30? I asked where would this happen? She said she had a place down the street that HUD just took over, it was real clean and safe. Something told me to resist this offer. Asked her if she would be around for a while, maybe an hour. (I wanted to check out Blondies down the street.) I told her maybe later if she was still around. She said she didn’t know if she would stay around, but would I give her a couple of bucks for gas? She was nearly out. Said the brunette in the middle would go with me and give a couple of quick licks. Now, I am really thinking I should move on. Reached in my pocket and gave her a fiver and told her if she was around in an hour I would find her.

Drove to Blondies’ and went inside quick. Never saw them after coming out.

I don’t know if I was too careful or if I passed up my first potential four way. My dark side is telling me to go back. My back side is saying prison sucks, literally!

Anyone else run into this situation? Are cues I could have looked for to sense whether this was an invitation to robbery/jail or worse?

Thanks

Well considering what happened to this poor fellow, I'd be really careful. If you had chosen to do something with one of the gals, it would have been best on insisting she go with you to the hourly motel by Miss Kitty's.
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From MyFOX News.

News
Text: Could Someone Be Targeting Men At Downtown Nightclubs?

There are fears criminals may be targeting young men at St. Louis area night clubs. One of those men, Scott O'Dell, 24, of Shiloh, IL, was murdered.His family believes he was set up to be robbed, only to end up dying.

O'Dell's brother, Shane, believes a woman is luring young men as part of the scheme. Scott O'Dell left the Dolce night club in downtown St. Louis with a woman. O'Dell was there with his brother for a night out. Scott O'Dell ended up getting robbed and killed.

"Just having fun with your brother, yeah, just going out together," said Shane O'Dell. "Then he's gone, you know, forever. It's tough."

Two days after Scott O'Dell left that night club, neighborhood kids found his car in Washington Park ; his body in a nearby ditch; shot gun wounds to his face and neck.

"The violence, the horrible violence of it, knowing my son was shot in his very handsome face and neck," said his mother, Patricia Dahlen. "Horrible, so horrible. I don't like violence," she said, breaking down into tears.

In the past year and a half, Scott O'Dell had gotten his life together; getting baptized at the Glad Tidings Church in Swansea ; ready to start a new job as union carpenter, framing houses for McBride and Sons Homebuilders. His stereo, his new carpenter's belt and tools were stolen from his car.

After Scott's death, another man came forward, saying he left an Illinois night club with a woman two days earlier; the woman setting him up to be robbed; not far from where O'Dell's body was found; the suspects using a shot-gun.

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Jannisary, the Scott O'Dell mentioned in your Fox News piece is the same man I wrote about 2 weeks ago whose body was found on Lincoln Avenue in Washington Park. I mentioned to Lark's Tongue to stay alert because Odell's body was found really close to The Colony Theater--one block south and 2 blocks east.

Because of the serious nature of this horrific crime, and because I drove down Lincoln Avenue myself last time I was in town, I've provided a link to my post from 2 weeks ago. Guys, you'll probably want to re-read it. It's Post #593 in this thread. Be careful out there.[/color]

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=602932&postcount=593[/url]

When in doubt, don't. You describe the easiest, safest pickup in the world to me, but if I got there and I had any weird feelings about it, I'd pass.

When I was young to the game in another place, a sw did the classic "mouth to johnny, hand in the console" trick and stole my cellphone. I spent three hours paying people who claimed to be able to get my phone back. I had hood boys in my car for a half hour. I could've gotten rolled so easy. But I was not thinking straigght. I finally found her and ended up begging her for it. THat night alone cost me over $$, and I went home with a pole. Damn, I was so young and so stupid, but so lucky at the same time.

Then there was a night (in another town) that I lucked out by talking to a sw outside my hotel when her friends pulled up. The first sw was pretty cool, and her friends sat there and we b.s.'ed for a while. Everything felt ok, and I ended up with all three. That night cost was under $$, and there wasn't no pole when I fell asleep.

So trust your gut and use your brains. I think you played that one like a pro.

I had never ventured to Washington Park before, but I was in the area this evening decided to check out the clubs. It was definitely a slow night across the board. Here is what I saw:

Blondies - There was one other customer in Blondies the entire time I was there. There were no girls dancing on stage and only a couple of girls in the club. The bartender told me they are usually busier. I talked to a woman who worked at another club and bought her a beer. She asked me if I wanted to go private. We did not even discuss money, because I wanted to see what the other clubs had to offer.

I stopped in a couple of other clubs and they were pretty dead so I made my final stop at C-MOWES. C-MOWES DEFINITELY had the best looking women, the most customers and the most girls working. I bought a girl a beer and she told me that lap dances are .25, private for a half hour is $$ and an hour is $$$. She was good looking, but her price was so far off from what I was willing to pay (more in the $-$.4 range) I didn't even try to negotiate. She didn't even mention if extras were included in the price.

On another note, the price of drinks are not terribly bad. $4 seems like the standard price for a beer at all of the bars. Anyway, I left slightly disappointed but I was happy to have seen the clubs. The next time I am in the area I am going to get a motel room, take a cab and spend some more time. Tonight I got a little bit worried about drinking and driving, so I didn't stay out as long as I would have liked to.

a police sting is a possibility. the police do not have to tell the truth, so "i'm not a cop..." doesn't mean much.

**** is a risky spot too. even if she shows you an id, if it is a fake, you are looking at serious problems.

robbery, of all of the east side neighborhoods, wp is probably the safest. that doesn't mean their friends were not waiting for you and your money.

could have been fun, could have been very, very bad. those are the risks. after saying all of this, i probably would have taken one for a ride to a location of my choosing.

Black dance clubs can draw hot heads with guns. Shootings happen.

The first east side strip club I went to was the Rose right at I-64 and route 3. It was in ESL. There was a robbery/murder in their parking lot and the club lost business and closed about six months after the shooting. I remember the post-disgrace running a full page interview with the pastor of the church across the street from the Rose. The pastor claimed his congregation's 24 hour pray vigil closed the club. The prayer vigil had been praying for the Rose to close 24/7 for three and a half years.

Ok, I have made two non hobby posts. I promise, my next post will be about an outing.

[QUOTE=Jeffc 574]Black dance clubs can draw hot heads with guns. Shootings happen.[/QUOTE]
Jeffc, I appreciate your sentiment, and know what you mean. But Scott O'dell, the shooting victim in Washington Park last month, was a white man, and only 24 years old.

The news article says he was probably lured to the robbery and his eventual death in Washington Park by a girl in a downtown St. Louis night club called Dolce. He ended up dead in a ditch in Washington Park on Lincoln Avenue.

For some reason, Jannisary didn't copy the following last 5 paragraphs from the news story, so here they are. They are frightening paragraphs.
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"After Scott's death, another man came forward, saying he left an Illinois night club with a woman two days earlier; the woman setting him up to be robbed; not far from where O'Dell's body was found; the suspects using a shot-gun.

"A girl took him by there, tricked him," Shane O'Dell said of the
other case. " She said, 'Let's stop by my house real quick,' Then he was robbed. They took his money, his watch. Then they told him to run... and there was a girl involved that night with my brother. I spoke to her on the phone. She told me he was busy. That was strange that somebody would be answering his phone."

"They're going to hurt somebody else," Dahlen said. "They'll do it
again. I don't want anyone else to suffer like this. It's horrible."

"I just want everybody to be careful and be cautious because they're still there," said Shane O'Dell. "Who knows who's next on the list for them."

An Illinois State Police investigator could not confirm a connection between the two cases, but he did say there was new information about where Scott O'Dell was the night of his death and how he ended up in Washington Park. He also said the case was far from cold."
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So this girl seems to get around. First she apparently lured a guy from an Illinois night club (which the article does not name). Then 2 days later, she lured Scott from a Missouri club in downtown St. Louis called Dolce. The robbing gang let the first guy go (told him to run), but killed Scott with shotgun blasts to the head. Frightening... Be careful out there, fellas.

Here's a link to the story:
[url]http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5420117&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1[/url]

[QUOTE=Jeffc 574]Robbery, of all of the east side neighborhoods, WP is probably the safest. That doesn't mean their friends were not waiting for you and your money.[/QUOTE]This is what you have to worry about the most. The girls might have sticky fingers and get in your wallet while your pants are down, or even worse you may end up in an alley with their friends waiting for you.

[QUOTE=Rosco2]Jeffc, I appreciate your sentiment, and know what you mean. But Scott O'dell, the shooting victim in Washington Park last month, was a white man, and only 24 years old.

The news article says he was probably lured to the robbery and his eventual death in Washington Park by a girl in a downtown St. Louis night club called Dolce. He ended up dead in a ditch in Washington Park on Lincoln Avenue.[/QUOTE]I have partied at Dolce more than once. It is a very nice club, with bottle service and good looking women. It is the kind of place you go and drop $ or $$ with friends, because it is seems completely safe. Dolce is not the kind of place where you would expect to get lured outside, robbed and murdered. If it can happen at Dolce, it can happen anywhere.

I didn't think I cut off any of the story when I copied and pasted. Sometimes they get cut down or added to maybe. Oh well, thanks for posting the whole thing Rosco.

Personally I'd been very tempted to take the best looking girl from Big's post and try her out at the notel. But then again, the cautious route especially since that news report, isn't a bad idea.


Very Dvs, did you stop in at the Hollywood? They have the hottest girls but not a lot of really dirty fun.

Visited Wiseguy’s in WP. Went there about 1:00 pm. Three dancers, I was the third customer. Dancer on stage was nice looking, with long curly strawberry blonde hair, emphasis on the strawberry. Nice 34-36 C breasts. Overall appearance 6-7. Great stage dance, she was very handsy, and helped me be handsy too, exposed the kitty, handsy again. But not for me, she gave me a gentle push away.

At the start of her last song on stage, she asked me about a private. Asked about the price. She said it depended on how much I wanted to spend. She offered a HJ for 5 Jacksons. Told her I would have to think about it. Moved away from the stage after her songs finished. Watched the other two dancers. Neither were that much, a 3 and a 4.

While finishing my drink she came up behind me and put her boobs on my shoulders and asked if I was ready for a private. Told her the price was on the expensive side. She said "well that’s the price! " I said thanks but maybe later. With only two other guys in the place I thought she was pretty inflexible price wise or it was UOGPM. I finished my drink and left.

The club is nice but one thing irritated me. Another older guy in the club got up and sat behind me when I went to the stage. When I left and sat at a table to watch the next dancer, he moved and sat behind me again. Don’t know if he was the house police or not. But, it made me a bit uneasy.

[QUOTE=Big0008]Cruising WP on a rare day off. Pulled into Dollies. Two guys, one an old white guy and the other, a middle-aged black guy were having animated discussion at the outside of the front door. Decided to keep moving and come back later.

Before I could get out of the parking lot, a dark blue S-10 with three women in the front seat pull along side me. Driver is rolling down her window and talking, cig in mouth. I stop, roll down my window. She asks if I am looking for some fun? I asked what kind of fun? She says are you a cop or anything? I said no. She said she wasn’t either, what kind of fun do I like? I looked over the three of them. The driver was blonde, near spinner, about a 4/5, looked about 35+, headed towards hagness. The other two were brunettes, thin, looked young, felony young. Driver said take your pick of us. I said your two friends look pretty young. They all denied they were under age. The one brunette said she had four kids. She looked every day of 17.

The driver says what do you like baby? Do you like blow jobs? Sure, who doesn’t I said. She said I can give you the best BJ. (BTW. I never hear a woman say this outside, away from a strip club for some reason? ) I said how much? She said $30? I asked where would this happen? She said she had a place down the street that HUD just took over, it was real clean and safe. Something told me to resist this offer. Asked her if she would be around for a while, maybe an hour. (I wanted to check out Blondies down the street.) I told her maybe later if she was still around. She said she didn’t know if she would stay around, but would I give her a couple of bucks for gas? She was nearly out. Said the brunette in the middle would go with me and give a couple of quick licks. Now, I am really thinking I should move on. Reached in my pocket and gave her a fiver and told her if she was around in an hour I would find her.

Drove to Blondies’ and went inside quick. Never saw them after coming out.

I don’t know if I was too careful or if I passed up my first potential four way. My dark side is telling me to go back. My back side is saying prison sucks, literally!

Anyone else run into this situation? Are cues I could have looked for to sense whether this was an invitation to robbery/jail or worse?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm sure you dodged a rolling or worse. Never go where they want. Always go where you want. Safety first and always. As much as I'd like a 3-some or more-some, I just won't pick up 2 or more or go with 2 or more anywhere. You need to read the Monger rules. Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders. Trick is to think with the big head, not the little one.

Continue to be safe. MW

[QUOTE=Jannisary]
Very Dvs, did you stop in at the Hollywood? They have the hottest girls but not a lot of really dirty fun.[/QUOTE]

I did not stop at Hollywood. I stopped at three clubs: Blondies, C-MOWES and Wiseguys. All of the ladies and bartenders in each of the clubs were really cool and talkative. I only spent an hour out, because I didn't want to drive intoxicated, so I only stayed for a few beers.

Each club was reasonably priced, $4 for beers and each club had very friendly women. There were no 10s, but there were a few women that were higher up on the scale 7-8, and some that were lower 3-6. There was a nice distribution. In total, there were about 15 girls between the three clubs.

I made it a point to tip the women on stage a few dollars each and buy a few of the women drinks. I didn't have any women hassle me for dances or act really money hungry, which is a problem I have run into in other strip clubs.

In a few weeks I am going to get a hotel room, take a cab and a few hundred bucks so I can really check the scene out. I will post a complete report when I have completed the mission.

Does anyone have a recommendation on a safe motel? How is the Econo Inn? That seems to be the closest place that is reasonably safe. I don't want my car or room getting broken into while I am gone. Are cabs easy to get in Washington Park? With the law enforcement presence in this area I don't want to drink and drive if I am even close to .08, I don't really want to end up in an East St. Louis jail. I have a feeling East St. Louis jails aren't the most pleasant place to end up.

A piece of advise for everyone. If someone is targeting men at local clubs, don't leave with them. Once they take you to their house, you are dead. If you know who they are or where they live, you can turn them in. If they let you know anything personal, that means they are intending to kill you. If you get a gun pulled on you outside a club, make a run for it, once you get in a car you are done. Make sure you never leave with them. Don't hassle them, if they want your wallet or cash, let them have it. It isn't worth dying over, but no matter what, never leave with someone who is robbing you. Good luck and stay safe.

My only experience with the Econo Inn has been of the hourly variety. I think I described over on the Brooklyn forum. The rooms are decent, clean, and use the card type of keys and have deadbolts. The parking lot was decently lit. The lobby stunk like someone had puked in it and it hadn't been cleaned up good enough.

For an overnight it might be safer to get a room in Collinsville or Fairview Heights. I'm not sure about the availability of cabs though. I think another member posted asking about cabs a couple years ago. Probably best to call the cab companies.

Jannisary is probably right that you might want a room out side of Washington Park. You might be able to make a deal with a cabbie, that he drop you off at a club, then come back in an hour or two and take you to the next club. Tell the cabbie you'll spot him a good tip at the end, because it will not cost much jumping from club to club, since the are close together.

[QUOTE=Big0008]....in the front seat pull along side me. Driver is rolling down her window and talking, cig in mouth. I stop, roll down my window. She asks if I am looking for some fun? I asked what kind of fun? She says are you a cop or anything? I said no. She said she wasn’t either, what kind of fun do I like? I looked over the three of them. The driver was blonde, near spinner, about a 4/5, looked about 35+, headed towards hagness. The other two were brunettes, thin, looked young, felony young. Driver said take your pick of us. I said your two friends look pretty young. They all denied they were under age. The one brunette said she had four kids. She looked every day of 17.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Having been traveling, I had not checked this board this week. I was over in WP this afternoon thinking, I should stop in Miss Kitty's for a nice time with a dayshift dancer. But I was stuck on a confrence call. So I left the lot.

On leaving the lot 2 girls in a white car pull in behind me. I assume they were either in the gas station or the hotel.

They start honking and even pull up along side me. So I pull over into a laundrymat parking lot.

A very young brunette, gets out of the car and says "you a cop?". I replied, no are you. "I hate cops. Listend we need to make some money our our car is going to be impounded, we need $77 dollars today."

Now I'm still on my cell phone (muted) so I ask if she can give me her name and phone number. They didn't have a phone. I tell them maybe next time I have to finish this business call.

As I was driving away, I heard her say, "we need to get a phone" to the driver.

I would have gone forward if it was not for my prior engagement. I also would have never let them take me somewhere.

I had a picture phone but did not think to snap a picture.

Hey guys,

I've been doing some surfing on other sites, cross referencing adultfriendfinder, *******, blackplanet, dang, there's a lot out there. It didn't take me long to find some dancers who have profiles. I searched for men who looked like they are "players"--the guys with dollar signs and shit on their pages. Then I looked through their lists of friends and found what I was looking for.

Then I'd note her location and age and go to another site and search. You'd be surprised how easy it is to find a lady looking for a hobbyist. I noticed on some of the adult sites too they have parties, but I didn't get the immpression that the parties were for the hobbyists here. I'm coming from the point that here we like the hunt--and the parties seem to be like spearing fish in a barrel (and I wouldn't think that the fish are anything above a 2--but I may be wrong).

So if you're ever stuck at home, you might want to try doing a little research. Mongering through cyberspace.

[QUOTE=LowRad]They start honking and even pull up along side me.=====[/QUOTE]
There seems to be a lot of car honking on the East Side. The second-to-last time I was in St. Louis (in November), while I was stopped at the intersection of Route 157 and State Street, somebody in a 2006 or 2007 dark blue Impala honked at me. It was late at night, so I couldn't see who the driver was, but the front-seat passenger was a 20-something, good-looking black woman.

I think they were up for some fun, because when I turned westward onto State Street from 157, they backed up and followed instead of going straight on 157 like they were positioned to go. I played discreet and pretended like I wasn't interested in any pooning--just a regular citizen [chuckle].

Another time, as I was making a turn from 9th onto the sharp-angled street (also called 9th) that leads to Natalie Avenue, an old brown Grand Prix-like car honked at me. It was a black guy driving. I figure he either had a lady for me or drugs. I'm not interested in the drugs at all (don't even care for alcohol--tastes like turpentine). I didn't stop for him to learn what his offer was because it was late at night, and I didn't want to take any chances. He made a U-turn and followed me turn-for-turn for 7 blocks, but at Baugh and 15th, he finally got the idea that I wasn't stopping and he veered away. I watched him turn onto the ramp that leads to the interstate highway.

Who knows. Maybe I should have stopped and talked to him. He might have had 3 or 4 ladies for me ;-)

For years I've been going from Western Missouri to the clubs in Metro East St. Louis. Miss Kitty's has been a regular stop. I've learned not to go with the skanks who promise more and want $ + for a hand job that I don't particularly want from them.

A few visits back, a girl who was good-looking for there, when we went to the private area, asked for. 5 and proceeded to give me a nice HJ. Last time I went, when we went to the private the dancer asked for $. She was OK-looking and black; I thought it would lead to something good and paid, and just got two songs of normal lap dances with some hand wandering outside my pants, the same as I got later from another for. 4.

I have another visit approaching and am wondering how to deal with requests like this. If I ask what I'll get I think they'll either over-promise or say "You'll like it. " Shall I just say "I'm just going for regular dances" and maybe get a free sample to persuade me of what a higher price will get?

[QUOTE=Dune 975]A few visits back, a girl who was good-looking for there, when we went to the private area, asked for. 5 and proceeded to give me a nice HJ. Last time I went, when we went to the private the dancer asked for $. She was OK-looking and black; I thought it would lead to something good and paid, and just got two songs of normal lap dances with some hand wandering outside my pants, the same as I got later from another for. 4.

I have another visit approaching and am wondering how to deal with requests like this. If I ask what I'll get I think they'll either over-promise or say "You'll like it. " Shall I just say "I'm just going for regular dances" and maybe get a free sample to persuade me of what a higher price will get?[/QUOTE]Everyone has their own style, but you might try to consider working on your closing line. Instead of asking what you'll get, tell them what you want. You don't have to be crass about it--"I wanna HJ" or "I want you to. ". Phrase it something like, "Well, I'm really shopping/waiting/looking for a nice. ". And then let her confirm it. And if she's vague about the tip, tell her how much you have. Let her confirm that also. If there's any amount of "trust me" involved, you're getting played. If you can get it all into one sentence: "OK then, I'll give you _____ for a. , " and she says "yes, " then you're off with your lady.

Just my opinion. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Mw Jrp]..........Never go where they want. Always go where you want. Safety first and always. ............You need to read the Monger rules. ........ Trick is to think with the big head, not the little one.
Continue to be safe. MW[/QUOTE]

This is the best advice you could receive on this one.

Anytime someone starts asking what you want from outside the car, getting specific with what they will do, and quoting prices - it's done - don't do it. Even for the best looking girl you've seen.

No one has mentioned that the classic rule is not to pull around a corner to meet someone after negotiating a deal outside the car. That's the classic trap - either for cops or for nasty people who want your car, money, and to end your life.

Stay safe is right!

ci-traveler

[QUOTE=Dune 975]I have another visit approaching and am wondering how to deal with requests like this. If I ask what I'll get I think they'll either over-promise or say "You'll like it. " Shall I just say "I'm just going for regular dances" and maybe get a free sample to persuade me of what a higher price will get?[/QUOTE]Another approach I had tried on me.

Went to the back room with a day shift gal, as she turns to her friend and says, "I may need to borrow a condom". But I felt she meant for me to hear.

I've been taken before by big promises, so I get to know the girl first before I start spending more $ than a normal dance.

[QUOTE=Dune 975] If I ask what I'll get I think they'll either over-promise or say "You'll like it. " Shall I just say "I'm just going for regular dances" and maybe get a free sample to persuade me of what a higher price will get?[/QUOTE]

Some guys have posted about getting more than a hj, but it doesn't appear to be a regular thing. I still can't see how you could get more without it being too blatantly obvious. I wouldn't go along with any dancer who asked for 100 at Miss Kitty's.