Agency Discussion and Review

[QUOTE=DickStickem;7449891]At their current rates, they may not find Orlando more lucrative than Jacksonville. Bigger playground, bigger competition. We will see.[/QUOTE]I think they will adjust the rates to where the hour includes MSOG, BB, and CIP, unless the girl wants extra donations for BB and CIP. To me that would be the best way they can remain competitive in a market like Orlando. They already have that donation structure in other busier cities that have lots of competition like LA, LV, and NYC.

A lesser expectation is possibly they will consider us Jacksonville guys loyal customers and maybe they'll give us a better rate. That would be awesome but less likely.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7449860]Was it about the same or better? If I'm driving down to Orlando for fun then I'm going to book 2 hours not just one. Based on listing 2 hours at Meiji would be cheaper than BF. It would be super ironic if they move down to Orlando because they thought they would be busier and then they have difficulty competing with all the difference places in Orlando.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind this was only my first experience with them but I found the process and the service to be excellent. Their menu is more attractive to me and Rita was as advertised. I like the fact that their ladies rotate on a very regular basis. Also Orlando has added an agency forum mirroring ours for loyal followers of Meiji so the intel should be pretty up to date. I was also told that they move around alot so not the same location each time. I hate the fact that we have to go 150 miles for this type of service but if I do it will be Meiji not BF. Just one additional thought. Their AMP's rival the service we got with BF and for less $$ If I had to choose only one I would return to VIP and spend my $$ on Angel.

[QUOTE=LoveToLaugh;7450234]Keep in mind this was only my first experience with them but I found the process and the service to be excellent. Their menu is more attractive to me and Rita was as advertised. I like the fact that their ladies rotate on a very regular basis. Also Orlando has added an agency forum mirroring ours for loyal followers of Meiji so the intel should be pretty up to date. I was also told that they move around alot so not the same location each time. I hate the fact that we have to go 150 miles for this type of service but if I do it will be Meiji not BF. Just one additional thought. Their AMP's rival the service we got with BF and for less $$ If I had to choose only one I would return to VIP and spend my $$ on Angel.[/QUOTE]I haven't tried meiji, but I have partaken in the Orlando AMP and BF a lot. My thoughts are this.

AMP is cheaper for sure, but the service varies a lot more and you get rushed a lot when they are busy. Add to it's high volume and that in general the ladies there are a step down in quality than BF. I mean I am still going to go, but I have had a lot better sessions at BF (and other agencies) but the AMP is main draw is it's cheaper and you can just show up and hope they aren't too busy.

Between meijii and BF. Meijii is more expensive for the single hour but I think they are going to be similar. I have gone to agencies in other cities though and BF is on the better side of quality. Not as good as some top tier places in NY and LA but still good.

I'm already going thru withdrawals. Coco was by far the best!

[QUOTE=Kma2016;7450259]I haven't tried meiji, but I have partaken in the Orlando AMP and BF a lot. My thoughts are this.

AMP is cheaper for sure, but the service varies a lot more and you get rushed a lot when they are busy. Add to it's high volume and that in general the ladies there are a step down in quality than BF. I mean I am still going to go, but I have had a lot better sessions at BF (and other agencies) but the AMP is main draw is it's cheaper and you can just show up and hope they aren't too busy.

Between meijii and BF. Meijii is more expensive for the single hour but I think they are going to be similar. I have gone to agencies in other cities though and BF is on the better side of quality. Not as good as some top tier places in NY and LA but still good.[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong, I thought BF was the best option in Jax and on par with others I have been to across the country. Vegas, NYC, Dallas, Houston and Now Orlando were just a bit higher quality lady and many times less expensive than BF. And I agree the AMP's will be hit or miss. I happened to have lucked out on my first go around in O-Town.

[QUOTE=HookMeUp33;7450273]I'm already going thru withdrawals. Coco was by far the best![/QUOTE]My apointment with Coco was cancelled due to flood. Now I know how Noah felt.

[QUOTE=LoveToLaugh;7450539]Don't get me wrong, I thought BF was the best option in Jax and on par with others I have been to across the country. Vegas, NYC, Dallas, Houston and Now Orlando were just a bit higher quality lady and many times less expensive than BF. And I agree the AMP's will be hit or miss. I happened to have lucked out on my first go around in O-Town.[/QUOTE]I can't afford hit or miss. I have to run on a tight schedule if I have to drive to Orlando for play. So it will be meiji or BF for me.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7450675]I can't afford hit or miss. I have to run on a tight schedule if I have to drive to Orlando for play. So it will be meiji or BF for me.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. But if we are spending $$ gas and four hours driving, you may want to take another look at Tryst. I have had some good luck once you sift through the OF pages and the scams. My go to has been the reliable BF type offerings but 300 miles of driving plus the $$ will probably keep me local and wait for the touring ladies to visit town.

[QUOTE=LoveToLaugh;7451097]I totally agree. But if we are spending $$ gas and four hours driving, you may want to take another look at Tryst. I have had some good luck once you sift through the OF pages and the scams. My go to has been the reliable BF type offerings but 300 miles of driving plus the $$ will probably keep me local and wait for the touring ladies to visit town.[/QUOTE]Probably means I will mongering less. I have checked out tryst but it's 90% garbage on there.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7451386]Probably means I will mongering less. I have checked out tryst but it's 90% garbage on there.[/QUOTE]Oh but that other 10%.

I tried texting them to see when they might reopen in Orlando and no response. I suppose they're busy setting up the apartment but it's just concerning. They are generally good about sending courtesy texts even if they are not operating.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7452539]I tried texting them to see when they might reopen in Orlando and no response. I suppose they're busy setting up the apartment but it's just concerning. They are generally good about sending courtesy texts even if they are not operating.[/QUOTE]No response either, but it's not surprising given the time of year, where they are at, etc. The handler actually handles multiple cities outside of BF so they are probably just focusing on them until Orlando is open.

[QUOTE=Kma2016;7452793]No response either, but it's not surprising given the time of year, where they are at, etc. The handler actually handles multiple cities outside of BF so they are probably just focusing on them until Orlando is open.[/QUOTE]Wasn't aware they were handling multiple cities. That makes more sense.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7452841]Wasn't aware they were handling multiple cities. That makes more sense.[/QUOTE]Lord knows BF was not busy enough in Jax to require a handler of its own.

[QUOTE=DickStickem;7453005]Lord knows BF was not busy enough in Jax to require a handler of its own.[/QUOTE]I'm just a tad ignorant on how they operate so whenever everything changed such as not even a courtesy text it just made me wonder what changed.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7453042]I'm just a tad ignorant on how they operate so whenever everything changed such as not even a courtesy text it just made me wonder what changed.[/QUOTE]I'm not 100% sure, but I travel a lot and I ask the agencies I get verified with what other locations they are in bc it's easier if I don't have to verify in a new city. Makes sense though, bc lining ladies up and the logistics involved makes a lot of sense to coordinate multiple cities that way.

[QUOTE=Kma2016;7453111]I'm not 100% sure, but I travel a lot and I ask the agencies I get verified with what other locations they are in bc it's easier if I don't have to verify in a new city. Makes sense though, bc lining ladies up and the logistics involved makes a lot of sense to coordinate multiple cities that way.[/QUOTE]Hopefully guys verified in Jax are good to go in Orlando for those willing to keep visiting.

BF will not be open in Orlando until early January.

Asianmuse, which is an asian agency in Atlanta, seems to be having a "change in ownership" and their site just says to stand by and wait for updates. There was a mention of an agency in Seattle being shut down recently possibly being related, but who knows. There is also a possible relationship between asianmuse and bunny factory. Make sure to stay safe everyone.

[QUOTE=Kma2016;7469761]Asianmuse, which is an asian agency in Atlanta, seems to be having a "change in ownership" and their site just says to stand by and wait for updates. There was a mention of an agency in Seattle being shut down recently possibly being related, but who knows. There is also a possible relationship between asianmuse and bunny factory. Make sure to stay safe everyone.[/QUOTE]Potentially scary stuff.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7469953]Potentially scary stuff.[/QUOTE]Not great news, but I don't think it's something to worry about too much. Other comments are saying that the booker had to step away and so the agency in Seattle isn't related. I actually don't know if they are even related tbh. I know the agency has affiliate in Atlanta, New York and LA but never heard about Seattle.

Now their site is completely down. Who knows if they're relocating now. I wonder if they took a look at Orlando real estate and thought to themselves wow this may not be the best move after all. Part of me hopes that is the case and they give Jax another shot, but I bet have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7479584]Now their site is completely down. Who knows if they're relocating now. I wonder if they took a look at Orlando real estate and thought to themselves wow this may not be the best move after all. Part of me hopes that is the case and they give Jax another shot, but I bet have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening.[/QUOTE]Their domain is not available for purchase so maybe they are just making website changes. Like sands through the hourglass. So are the days of our lives.

[URL]https://www.serenebestasianmassage.com/[/URL]

Saw them on Craigslist but they took the post down shortly after.

Looks interesting.

[QUOTE=DickStickem;7479801]Their domain is not available for purchase so maybe they are just making website changes. Like sands through the hourglass. So are the days of our lives.[/QUOTE]They could have paid upwards of a couple years in advance, its cheaper that way.

[QUOTE=Jakona;7479832][URL]https://www.serenebestasianmassage.com/[/URL]

Saw them on Craigslist but they took the post down shortly after.

Looks interesting.[/QUOTE]Who will be the first to report on this new local offering?

[QUOTE=LoveToLaugh;7480132]Who will be the first to report on this new local offering?[/QUOTE]Me thinx this looks familiar. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sicilly;7480549]Me thinx this looks familiar. LOL.[/QUOTE]Certainly isn't new. The photo is the place on Wilson Blvd but the ad / website phone numbers don't correspond to that AMP. And, for the record, I've never seen any of those girls or anyone remotely in their age bracket there. Perhaps a lure to another location.

Happy new year everyone. BF site is still down and I have not heard or seen one update about Orlando opening. If anyone knows anything it would be great to hear. I know that their Atlanta affiliate is currently not operating. I suspect that they would rather get Alanta back up and running before doing anything in Florida.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7490907]Happy new year everyone. BF site is still down and I have not heard or seen one update about Orlando opening. If anyone knows anything it would be great to hear. I know that their Atlanta affiliate is currently not operating. I suspect that they would rather get Alanta back up and running before doing anything in Florida.[/QUOTE]It's all been dark for me too.

[QUOTE=FlaWill;7481085]Certainly isn't new. The photo is the place on Wilson Blvd but the ad / website phone numbers don't correspond to that AMP. And, for the record, I've never seen any of those girls or anyone remotely in their age bracket there. Perhaps a lure to another location.[/QUOTE]It was the addy the nice old Asian lady gave me.

Made an account just to post this. Was in Orlando recently so decided to give Meiji a try. Was pretty excited since seemed to be on a level with BF based on the reports. Boy was it a disappointment.

I saw a Japanese girl 'Kamki'. She's definitely Japanese. I think it might be 'her' in the pictures but edited so much that it might as well be a different person. She was more heavy built like a nightstand than a petite cutie. Very average to below average looks and face, very yellow teeth. Almost a flat chest. Skin isn't smooth at all covered with spots. Don't get me wrong, she's a nice girl and tries hard but the looks are a major turn off and didn't do it for me at all. This place is basically a scam and I definitely do not recommend you drive for 4 hours there and back for this. I will definitely not be going again. I miss BF already.

P.S. If BF really did close down due to low traffic then they're not run by people who are very smart and sadly maybe it's for the best they closed. You don't need a phd to understand that JAX cannot compare to ATL or NYC. Even Orland isn't likely to match or come close to that kind of traffic level. Florida is a very different market in general. It's for tourists with families. And locals do not magically know that this place exists since it's been barely a year. It takes years to build up a customer base. And if they're willing to take extra risks especially with the sort of apartments they're using it puts everyone in danger. Residents aren't stupid and will start making calls and complaints if there's too much random traffic. I really hope BF comes back to JAX but not at the expense of everyone's safety.

During the last year, I've read a lot of reports about the Bunny Factory and Strawberry Club. I visited BF twice. The first time started slowly and kind of "meh" and then got better the longer I was with the provider. The second time was great. She treated me like a king. Sadly, I don't remember either of their names. A lot of the reports that I read state that BF must not have been making money or receiving enough foot traffic to keep them in business. However, both of the women that I saw said that they made more money in Jacksonville than they did working on the the west coast. If I remember correctly, they were both from California, but both had also worked in Las Vegas. Both told me that they made more money here than there. A weird discrepancy that I'm offering to the group for review and comment. Just my two cents regarding the passing scene.

Shaggy.

[QUOTE=Newguild;7493389]Made an account just to post this. Was in Orlando recently so decided to give Meiji a try. Was pretty excited since seemed to be on a level with BF based on the reports. Boy was it a disappointment.

I saw a Japanese girl 'Kamki'. She's definitely Japanese. I think it might be 'her' in the pictures but edited so much that it might as well be a different person. She was more heavy built like a nightstand than a petite cutie. Very average to below average looks and face, very yellow teeth. Almost a flat chest. Skin isn't smooth at all covered with spots. Don't get me wrong, she's a nice girl and tries hard but the looks are a major turn off and didn't do it for me at all. This place is basically a scam and I definitely do not recommend you drive for 4 hours there and back for this. I will definitely not be going again. I miss BF already.

P.S. If BF really did close down due to low traffic then they're not run by people who are very smart and sadly maybe it's for the best they closed. You don't need a phd to understand that JAX cannot compare to ATL or NYC. Even Orland isn't likely to match or come close to that kind of traffic level. Florida is a very different market in general. It's for tourists with families. And locals do not magically know that this place exists since it's been barely a year. It takes years to build up a customer base. And if they're willing to take extra risks especially with the sort of apartments they're using it puts everyone in danger. Residents aren't stupid and will start making calls and complaints if there's too much random traffic. I really hope BF comes back to JAX but not at the expense of everyone's safety.[/QUOTE]Highly unlikely they would return to Jacksonville, but if they did I agree they would start doing a lot better during the 2nd year.

Where I do disagree is the part about random traffic somehow being less safe than going to a random hotel for other providers. True there are some nosy neighbors from time to time, but the vast majority of people will just mind their own business as long as they're not in danger or affected negatively. Walking into a random hotel has similar dangers there are cameras on every floor and they can see if a certain room is getting tons of random traffic.

[QUOTE=ShaggyJax;7494298]During the last year, I've read a lot of reports about the Bunny Factory and Strawberry Club. I visited BF twice. The first time started slowly and kind of "meh" and then got better the longer I was with the provider. The second time was great. She treated me like a king. Sadly, I don't remember either of their names. A lot of the reports that I read state that BF must not have been making money or receiving enough foot traffic to keep them in business. However, both of the women that I saw said that they made more money in Jacksonville than they did working on the the west coast. If I remember correctly, they were both from California, but both had also worked in Las Vegas. Both told me that they made more money here than there. A weird discrepancy that I'm offering to the group for review and comment. Just my two cents regarding the passing scene.

Shaggy.[/QUOTE]It doesn't take much traffic for 1-2 girls to make good money and feel like their time is justified. However, to make the business profitable you need 4+ girls who are getting solid traffic.

Made the trip to Orlando and saw Jenny at Meiji. It wasn't amazing but it wasn't bad. She was attractive and nice but just not the same kind of attention you got from the BF girls. I really hope they reopen soon. Even better if they decide to come back to jax.

[QUOTE=Solman816;7508675]Made the trip to Orlando and saw Jenny at Meiji. It wasn't amazing but it wasn't bad. She was attractive and nice but just not the same kind of attention you got from the BF girls. I really hope they reopen soon. Even better if they decide to come back to jax.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on that. Really hope BF turns around and comes back. I did get in touch with HannahDD from BF. She's on hiatus right now. No projected time she will be back. I'll be taking a couple trips to O-town next month. Trying to get some recon now.

[QUOTE=Vegas23;7516313]I'm with you on that. Really hope BF turns around and comes back. I did get in touch with HannahDD from BF. She's on hiatus right now. No projected time she will be back. I'll be taking a couple trips to O-town next month. Trying to get some recon now.[/QUOTE]The reopen in Orlando or not has been delayed indefinitely. If Hannah came back even independently I would definitely go see her. Hell, if she does well here independently maybe she can convince the BF handlers that they should give Jax another try. If you find out something Vegas please share. The first visit to O town for Meiji was fine but not spectacular. The drive didn't feel worth it after the fact.

[QUOTE=Vegas23;7516313]I'm with you on that. Really hope BF turns around and comes back. I did get in touch with HannahDD from BF. She's on hiatus right now. No projected time she will be back. I'll be taking a couple trips to O-town next month. Trying to get some recon now.[/QUOTE]I was wondering what happened to her, her Twitter went ghost several months ago. If she visited anywhere near Jax then I'd make the drive. Technically she was independent and just helped BF get started, was definitely my favorite that showed up and wish she'd start traveling again.

[QUOTE=DtfSparky;7517231]I was wondering what happened to her, her Twitter went ghost several months ago. If she visited anywhere near Jax then I'd make the drive. Technically she was independent and just helped BF get started, was definitely my favorite that showed up and wish she'd start traveling again.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was disappointed that I missed out on Hannah whenever she came through. She sounded great based on what everyone said.