Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[QUOTE=HawaiiGuy23;2291958]What's the general consensus on covered everything with dfk? Anyone catch anything from that? What about BBBJ but no daty?

I definitely want to stay clean so I was thinking of sticking to CBJ, no kissing, no FS or cfs at all. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Going BB is always a crapshoot with anyone, even with non-providers. For me, AMPs are for fucking and the visual. Find the condoms that work for you. There's even a chance of getting HPV or herpes even while using a condom during intercourse. Those are things that stay with you for life. The more serious stuff are Hepatitis B or C, and HIV that can end your life. I can't see going BBFSCIP with a provider that took loads from previous customers. Can't only be lube that's keeping her pussy moist.

BBBJ is still some risk. The oral cavity is like a vagina, a warm and moist environment for bacteria and viruses to live in. I can't see kissing a provider that just gave BBBJCIM beforehand to another dude.

I've always avoided providers that give BBBJ or BBFS as part of their services. The BB and kissing stuff I save for a GF or SO. Same for DATY. I suggest playing it on the safer side because you never know when a real GF situation may start up with someone you meet. There ain't no time to get tested when a relationship starts up and you get sexually involved. Of course, if you have no intention of any relationship and just want to have sex with various providers, then I guess you can increase your risk taking.

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I definitely want to stay clean so I was thinking of sticking to CBJ, no kissing, no FS or cfs at all. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good idea if you don't mind that. The less things you do, the lower the chances.

Stick with providers who are known only for all covered. This way, you don't get tempted.

[QUOTE=Carmello;2277386]Yups I've read about it also getting cancer in the throat. I did go to the diamond head clinic once just to check myself out and everything was clean. The lady there said it is rare to catch an std from oral sex but from reading this forum, seems to be the contrary. The worst symtoms I've ever had was sore throat after seeing a provider but it usually went away after two days. And I always turn down bbfs anytime its offered. Only did it once with a provider and that was me taking a risk after knowing her for several months and all reviews never even hinting at anything close to that.[/QUOTE]Was it that skinny mokey chick? I saw her; I don't think she knows what the hell she's talking about; or else she's trying to sabotage guys. When I looked into her eyes, I saw an angry spiteful person.

[QUOTE=HMobius;2292652]Was it that skinny mokey chick? I saw her; I don't think she knows what the hell she's talking about; or else she's trying to sabotage guys. When I looked into her eyes, I saw an angry spiteful person.[/QUOTE]There's also a nice 20 something year old Chinese-Filipino mix looking girl there. I thought she was cute. I did get a skinny Hawaiian girl one time that was kinda bitchy. She was pregnant at the time. This was about 4 or 5 years ago.

[QUOTE=HawaiiGuy23;2291958]What's the general consensus on covered everything with dfk? Anyone catch anything from that? What about BBBJ but no daty?

I definitely want to stay clean so I was thinking of sticking to CBJ, no kissing, no FS or cfs at all. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Abstinance or something like it. I would recommened that you stick with that, its almost 100 percent because you might still catch a cold or flu or something.

[QUOTE=HawaiiGuy23;2291958]What's the general consensus on covered everything with dfk? Anyone catch anything from that? What about BBBJ but no daty?

I definitely want to stay clean so I was thinking of sticking to CBJ, no kissing, no FS or cfs at all. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]A HJ is completely safe. Or is it?

[QUOTE=EwaBeach;2293281]A HJ is completely safe. Or is it?[/QUOTE]Unless the persons hand has a cut and is bleeding and your private area has a fresh cut than it would pose a problem. Really rare case though that's likely to happen but, still possible for it to happen.

[QUOTE=HMobius;2292652]Was it that skinny mokey chick? I saw her; I don't think she knows what the hell she's talking about; or else she's trying to sabotage guys. When I looked into her eyes, I saw an angry spiteful person.[/QUOTE]Sorry dude, I can't remember.

So I took the plunge and ended up going BBFS for the first time. Well, not really, but the first time with a known BBFS provider. I've done BBFS with three or four providers previously, but none of them were known to provide it. Not sure if it's correct or not, but I figured the chances of getting an STI from a provider that is not known to provide BBFS to everyone is less than getting an STI from a known BBFS provider. My BBFS provider this time was Connie over at Kison. After reading the reports about her looks and body type, I like them thick, and after seeing her pictures in the ads, I just had to head down there and check it out. The thought of sliding my dick into a beautiful woman without a condom on was just too much. I figured that if I got there and didn't care for her looks or if she insisted on the condom since it was my first time with her, then I'd just go with the condom without regrets. Well I got there and met her and found her attractive and thought "oh shit, I might be in trouble". We start making out and we're grinding away, junior rubbing up against her pussy, oh oh. Then after a nice BJ I climb on and slide junior right in, oh shit, now I've gone and done it. Thinking about it now, I wonder why she offers BBFS. I know she's not that young, but she still looks good to me and I think she could still get clients without offering BBFS. In fact, I might see her again and ask for the condom. Nah, I probably won't see her again unless I'm willing to go BBFS because my will-power sucks. Anyway, it's always the same with me after going BBFS, I get paranoid about everything, "what's that itching", "is that a slight burning when I take a piss", etc. It was about time for me to get tested again anyway. I'll wait a few months before getting tested since I think the HIV results are more accurate after a few months, then I'll probably get tested again in six months. When you guys get tested, is it usually just the basic tests at Diamond Head or do you get tested for everything? First time I got tested, I went to Diamond Head and found out that they didn't test for Herpes and Hepatitis, so I headed over to Waikiki Health Clinic and got the additional tests. The shitty part is that even though you have insurance, I don't think the additional tests are covered since they are not recommended by the CDC or some other health standards. I just pay those out of pocket. For guys that are new to this hobby, especially those with SO's, I would recommend getting tested for everything before you start mongering or early on so you have a baseline or starting point. However, just know that for the Herpes tests, the only result that may mean anything is being clear of both HSV-1 and HSV-2 because even if you test positive for one or both, you won't know if it's oral or genital or both unless you have outbreaks, which most people don't. Anyway, just babbling to try and get rid of some of my anxiety. Was it worth it? Well, I did find Connie attractive and had a very good time while it lasted, so I guess it depends how my tests come back.

[QUOTE=Harris808;2424866]So I took the plunge and ended up going BBFS for the first time. Well, not really, but the first time with a known BBFS provider. I've done BBFS with three or four providers previously, but none of them were known to provide it. Not sure if it's correct or not, but I figured the chances of getting an STI from a provider that is not known to provide BBFS to everyone is less than getting an STI from a known BBFS provider. My BBFS provider this time was Connie over at Kison. After reading the reports about her looks and body type, I like them thick, and after seeing her pictures in the ads, I just had to head down there and check it out. The thought of sliding my dick into a beautiful woman without a condom on was just too much. I figured that if I got there and didn't care for her looks or if she insisted on the condom since it was my first time with her, then I'd just go with the condom without regrets. Well I got there and met her and found her attractive and thought "oh shit, I might be in trouble". We start making out and we're grinding away, junior rubbing up against her pussy, oh oh. Then after a nice BJ I climb on and slide junior right in, oh shit, now I've gone and done it. Thinking about it now, I wonder why she offers BBFS. I know she's not that young, but she still looks good to me and I think she could still get clients without offering BBFS. In fact, I might see her again and ask for the condom. Nah, I probably won't see her again unless I'm willing to go BBFS because my will-power sucks. Anyway, it's always the same with me after going BBFS, I get paranoid about everything, "what's that itching", "is that a slight burning when I take a piss", etc. It was about time for me to get tested again anyway. I'll wait a few months before getting tested since I think the HIV results are more accurate after a few months, then I'll probably get tested again in six months. When you guys get tested, is it usually just the basic tests at Diamond Head or do you get tested for everything? First time I got tested, I went to Diamond Head and found out that they didn't test for Herpes and Hepatitis, so I headed over to Waikiki Health Clinic and got the additional tests. The shitty part is that even though you have insurance, I don't think the additional tests are covered since they are not recommended by the CDC or some other health standards. I just pay those out of pocket. For guys that are new to this hobby, especially those with SO's, I would recommend getting tested for everything before you start mongering or early on so you have a baseline or starting point. However, just know that for the Herpes tests, the only result that may mean anything is being clear of both HSV-1 and HSV-2 because even if you test positive for one or both, you won't know if it's oral or genital or both unless you have outbreaks, which most people don't. Anyway, just babbling to try and get rid of some of my anxiety. Was it worth it? Well, I did find Connie attractive and had a very good time while it lasted, so I guess it depends how my tests come back.[/QUOTE]I've had the same thinking as you about having BBFS with girls that are not known for it but found out its just that guys here don't talk about it. I've had BBFS from a bunch of the girls at Empire and thought that my chances of getting anything would be very low due to their age and history of only CFS. Thankfully I didn't "get" anything but did find out that is wasn't uncommon practice for them to provide BBFS. If you are wary about catching anything, just don't do BBFS period!

[QUOTE=Buster50;2424896]If you are wary about catching anything, just don't do BBFS period![/QUOTE]I don't think it's that black and white. I think most guys are "wary", it's just a matter of how wary they are that determines how often and to what degree they decide to participate in this hobby.

[QUOTE=Harris808;2425045]I don't think it's that black and white. I think most guys are "wary", it's just a matter of how wary they are that determines how often and to what degree they decide to participate in this hobby.[/QUOTE]Very interesting topic, I wouldn't mind getting a BBFS providers view on this topic. To what extent they will go? They must be wary too? What drives them to be so risky themselves? Is it the $$, irritation from condoms?

[QUOTE=Shibiko;2425201]Very interesting topic, I wouldn't mind getting a BBFS providers view on this topic. To what extent they will go? They must be wary too? What drives them to be so risky themselves? Is it the $$, irritation from condoms?[/QUOTE]What younger (20's) providers have exclaimed to me regarding not using a rubber: "I DONWANNA DIE!" Some were calmer, remarking that they couldn't get pregnant. One lady said if I came in her, she'd keep the baby.

Middle-aged providers generally either had no comment, asked "Why, you clean, right?", or indicated it didn't matter to them. As many members have said, they need to do more to compete with younger girls elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Shibiko;2425201]Very interesting topic, I wouldn't mind getting a BBFS providers view on this topic. To what extent they will go? They must be wary too? What drives them to be so risky themselves? Is it the $$, irritation from condoms?[/QUOTE]There is literally tons of reading about this topic from both sides (Google).

Never saw anything about condom irritation, it was more about "I've been making xxxx amount per week, but now that I'm xx old guys don't come like they used to / customers find new girls / etc so to keep making xxxx amount, I had to start doing whatever. I guess once you start pulling in 5 k a week it's hard to go back to 1 or 2 just cause you got a little older.

First time I did DATY at an AMP. I don't have any cold sores around or in my mouth. But since yesterday my throat has had a sore feeling. I thought it was just a cold, but now I'm getting paranoid. Has anyone ever had these symptoms after DATY? I'm also experiencing headaches and some sneezing, no mucus though.