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[QUOTE=CoochieMac;5249767]You have no idea what you're speaking about. Just quit. This misinformation is baseless. If you ever went thru an equitable proceeding, I can say for certain it does not happen at all like you're describing. Perhaps this happened to you in The Ukraine???[/QUOTE]It's civil not criminal and varies by state so me thinks you are the one that has no clue. Anyone can petition for any reason for a temporary injunction. That does not make the recipient guilty nor petitioner righteous.
You're flat out ignorant.
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[QUOTE=HoldenPierson;5249850]It's civil not criminal and varies by state so me thinks you are the one that has no clue. Anyone can petition for any reason for a temporary injunction. That does not make the recipient guilty nor petitioner righteous.
You're flat out ignorant.[/QUOTE]In this situation, the girl (Indigo) most likely filed an initial Civil No-Contact Order (an ex parte order). This will go in affect immediately and will last for 10 days. After the 10 days she would need to go to court to seek a permanent order. To gain the permanent order, she would then need to provide evidence. I don't think it would be hard for her to provide the evidence if she hasn't provided it already. Anyone who frequents this forum knows all about FunderJ and how he was banned from seeing his "Italian Princess" months ago and obviously ignored her request to a point where she had to file the No-Contact Restraining Order.
Instead of you guys having a pissing contest about who knows more about restraining orders, how about focusing on making sure FunderJ realizes the trouble he is setting himself up for. Who knows how far he might take it.
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Equitable is right
[QUOTE=HoldenPierson;5249850]It's civil not criminal and varies by state so me thinks you are the one that has no clue. Anyone can petition for any reason for a temporary injunction. That does not make the recipient guilty nor petitioner righteous.
You're flat out ignorant.[/QUOTE]He's technically right. It's equitable due to the remedy of enforcing conduct. Criminal is fines or jail time, mostly probation for first time offenders. Civil is money. Equitable, per NC constitution, is where a judge can issue decrees providing for protections, like foreclosure, writ of prohibition, writ of mandamus or injunctions- restraining orders. From English common law, but due process is provided. Just so you know the guy in question offered no testimony at the hearing for fear of incriminating himself. Ask him? But nothing will be convincing to you who wish to justify harassing ladies and blaming cops. It's called cognitive dissonance, you know it's right but your mangled motives to victimize ladies that don't idolize you is a stronger instinct due to having no positive female role models in your life. You probably saw all females in your family abused and this is your comfy zone. I agree that your legal misinformation only makes you look less convincing. I'd cease while your posts are still read at all.
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YOU are the one that has NO CLUE. I have been to this rodeo. I have been served and had a restraining order served. It has been years ago but not that many years that the laws have changed. Any girl can find out who you are and go to the magistrate and swear out a warrant and when you go to court it is you against her. It is basically your word against theirs. The judge listens to both sides and looks at your record and looks at hers. In my case she had a record a mile long that I didn't know about and I was clean. Plus the judge caught her in many lies. I won my case against her while she lost hers against me.
Take your stupid bullshit somewhere else. I have lived through this. I know how it worked. If you never took out a restraining order against somebody or had one served on you then shut the fuck up. Most of the time it is the damn Sheriff that serves the warrant. Anybody can go to the magistrate and lie their ass off and have you arrested. I know. I have been there.
[QUOTE=CoochieMac;5249767]You have no idea what you're speaking about. Just quit. This misinformation is baseless. If you ever went thru an equitable proceeding, I can say for certain it does not happen at all like you're describing. Perhaps this happened to you in The Ukraine???[/QUOTE]
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1000% Correct
[QUOTE=NCTransplant;5250348]YOU are the one that has NO CLUE. I have been to this rodeo. I have been served and had a restraining order served. It has been years ago but not that many years that the laws have changed. Any girl can find out who you are and go to the magistrate and swear out a warrant and when you go to court it is you against her. It is basically your word against theirs. The judge listens to both sides and looks at your record and looks at hers. In my case she had a record a mile long that I didn't know about and I was clean. Plus the judge caught her in many lies. I won my case against her while she lost hers against me.
Take your stupid bullshit somewhere else. I have lived through this. I know how it worked. If you never took out a restraining order against somebody or had one served on you then shut the fuck up. Most of the time it is the damn Sheriff that serves the warrant. Anybody can go to the magistrate and lie their ass off and have you arrested. I know. I have been there.[/QUOTE]Everything NCT is saying is spot on. In no way has he been defending the monger for his actions he was just joining in the conversation and everything he is saying is totally correct. Now for some of these other posts I would say some people are jumping off the deep end like they got a stake in the situation.
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Mad bro?
[QUOTE=NCTransplant;5250348]YOU are the one that has NO CLUE. I have been to this rodeo. I have been served and had a restraining order served. It has been years ago but not that many years that the laws have changed. Any girl can find out who you are and go to the magistrate and swear out a warrant and when you go to court it is you against her. It is basically your word against theirs. The judge listens to both sides and looks at your record and looks at hers. In my case she had a record a mile long that I didn't know about and I was clean. Plus the judge caught her in many lies. I won my case against her while she lost hers against me.
Take your stupid bullshit somewhere else. I have lived through this. I know how it worked. If you never took out a restraining order against somebody or had one served on you then shut the fuck up. Most of the time it is the damn Sheriff that serves the warrant. Anybody can go to the magistrate and lie their ass off and have you arrested. I know. I have been there.[/QUOTE]LOL! You ain't mad is you? I've had my laughs, but it seems to have hit a nerve. My mind is back on normal subjects. Keep in denegrating ladies but remember you ol friend Cooch who tried to redeem you? LOL!!
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[QUOTE=HotPole;5250331]He's technically right. It's equitable due to the remedy of enforcing conduct. Criminal is fines or jail time, mostly probation for first time offenders. Civil is money. Equitable, per NC constitution, is where a judge can issue decrees providing for protections, like foreclosure, writ of prohibition, writ of mandamus or injunctions- restraining orders. From English common law, but due process is provided. Just so you know the guy in question offered no testimony at the hearing for fear of incriminating himself. Ask him? But nothing will be convincing to you who wish to justify harassing ladies and blaming cops. It's called cognitive dissonance, you know it's right but your mangled motives to victimize ladies that don't idolize you is a stronger instinct due to having no positive female role models in your life. You probably saw all females in your family abused and this is your comfy zone. I agree that your legal misinformation only makes you look less convincing. I'd cease while your posts are still read at all.[/QUOTE]I posted multiple times that he crossed the line / fucked up and believe (hope) he realizes it. I've never justified harassing anyone but sweet strawman. But way to presume you know me or my upbringing. I couldn't care less if you read my posts. The ignore button is a beautiful thing.
But if you want to continue to insult my family, I'd be more than happy to handle our disagreement offline.
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Me mad?
Until you have some CRAZY ass woman go to the magistrate with total LIES and have you arrested at work and hauled to jail, you have NO BUSINESS telling me that I am spreading misinformation. I am no lawyer but I know first hand what happened to me and it was one of the most stressful times in my life. I don't denigrate ladies. I ran across one that manipulated and used me. I know someone can accuse you of anything and have you arrested and put a restraining order on you. Now taking those LIES to court has consequences which she found out the hard way. I have never had the cops at my house until I was involved with her and they have never been to my house since and 2 different women that I have lived with came to my defense and were willing to go to court on my behalf.
LEO is not the one that is going to be looking into this case. When it goes to court it is her word against his. Yea this is a sensitive subject. I went through pure hell for about 6 months and for someone to come along and tell me that I don't know what I am talking about? It just rubs me the wrong way. I have lived this shit.
Oh for the record, this happened in Charlotte. NOT Ukraine.
[QUOTE=CoochieMac;5250388]LOL! You ain't mad is you? I've had my laughs, but it seems to have hit a nerve. My mind is back on normal subjects. Keep in denegrating ladies but remember you ol friend Cooch who tried to redeem you? LOL!![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=NCTransplant;5250739]Until you have some CRAZY ass woman go to the magistrate with total LIES and have you arrested at work and hauled to jail, you have NO BUSINESS telling me that I am spreading misinformation. I am no lawyer but I know first hand what happened to me and it was one of the most stressful times in my life. I don't denigrate ladies. I ran across one that manipulated and used me. I know someone can accuse you of anything and have you arrested and put a restraining order on you. Now taking those LIES to court has consequences which she found out the hard way. I have never had the cops at my house until I was involved with her and they have never been to my house since and 2 different women that I have lived with came to my defense and were willing to go to court on my behalf.
LEO is not the one that is going to be looking into this case. When it goes to court it is her word against his. Yea this is a sensitive subject. I went through pure hell for about 6 months and for someone to come along and tell me that I don't know what I am talking about? It just rubs me the wrong way. I have lived this shit.
Oh for the record, this happened in Charlotte. NOT Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Had a similar experience which caused a lot of sleepless nights and a few thousand in lawyer fees.
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[QUOTE=NCTransplant;5250739]Until you have some CRAZY ass woman go to the magistrate with total LIES and have you arrested at work and hauled to jail, you have NO BUSINESS telling me that I am spreading misinformation. I am no lawyer but I know first hand what happened to me and it was one of the most stressful times in my life. I don't denigrate ladies. I ran across one that manipulated and used me. I know someone can accuse you of anything and have you arrested and put a restraining order on you. Now taking those LIES to court has consequences which she found out the hard way. I have never had the cops at my house until I was involved with her and they have never been to my house since and 2 different women that I have lived with came to my defense and were willing to go to court on my behalf.
LEO is not the one that is going to be looking into this case. When it goes to court it is her word against his. Yea this is a sensitive subject. I went through pure hell for about 6 months and for someone to come along and tell me that I don't know what I am talking about? It just rubs me the wrong way. I have lived this shit.
Oh for the record, this happened in Charlotte. NOT Ukraine.[/QUOTE]My point as well that a temporary injunction can be issued by a judge on hearsay / petitioner's story alone. If granted, then you go to court. Not sure how these White Knights are conflating that anyone is defending the poster's actions that kicked this entire thing off.
But a quick post search history of some of these guys will show words like "****", "skanks", etc. Such gentlemen would never disparage these fine ladies. The hypocrisy is strong with some.
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Crossing the line
[QUOTE=HoldenPierson;5250454]I posted multiple times that he crossed the line / fucked up and believe (hope) he realizes it. I've never justified harassing anyone but sweet strawman. But way to presume you know me or my upbringing. I couldn't care less if you read my posts. The ignore button is a beautiful thing.
But if you want to continue to insult my family, I'd be more than happy to handle our disagreement offline.[/QUOTE]Yes I did cross the line and F Up. I do realize it. I still appreciate you and Manny defending me. As far as everyone else who continues to bash me, go ahead and keep it up because I deserve the bashing.
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It doesn't even take a judge. A simple trip to the magistrate is all that is required to get a restraining order. Then you go to court.
[QUOTE=HoldenPierson;5250832]My point as well that a temporary injunction can be issued by a judge on hearsay / petitioner's story alone. If granted, then you go to court. Not sure how these White Knights are conflating that anyone is defending the poster's actions that kicked this entire thing off.
But a quick post search history of some of these guys will show words like "****", "skanks", etc. Such gentlemen would never disparage these fine ladies. The hypocrisy is strong with some.[/QUOTE]
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Same here. Lawyers don't come cheap.
[QUOTE=FiveOfSix;5250823]Had a similar experience which caused a lot of sleepless nights and a few thousand in lawyer fees.[/QUOTE]
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We all make mistakes. I have made more than my share. Try to learn and move on.
[QUOTE=FunderJ;5251085]Yes I did cross the line and F Up. I do realize it. I still appreciate you and Manny defending me. As far as everyone else who continues to bash me, go ahead and keep it up because I deserve the bashing.[/QUOTE]
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Macho inquiry
[QUOTE=MachoManny;5250352]Everything NCT is saying is spot on. In no way has he been defending the monger for his actions he was just joining in the conversation and everything he is saying is totally correct. Now for some of these other posts I would say some people are jumping off the deep end like they got a stake in the situation.[/QUOTE]Macho why don't you ever post anything about experiences with providers? You always show up to attack, disparage and give negativity. Then you send these nosey pms wanting deep details on reports on service providers??