Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

[QUOTE=StBrolinSf;3160716]Boys, just a friendly reminder that just hit me last week, you can actually catch STDs even while using condoms *all the time* (no BBBJ for me ever).

I've always been very diligent with condom use, that didn't protect me from catching HPV, now I'm on a kick ass treatment to get rid of genital warts (yes, yuk). How much fun is that.

Unfortunately I cannot "post AIDS / STD allegations in the forum" but I am pretty confident to know which provider I saw while I contracted it, I don't see that many anyways.

Oh well, I was supposed to retire from the hobby anyways. Please, stay safe brothers.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately everyone is at risk to HPV even if you practice safe sex. The reason is simply that condoms do not cover the entire genital area of either sex. They leave the vagina, anus, perineal area, base of the penis, and scrotum uncovered, and just skin to skin contact between these areas can transmit HPV.

A person may have had HPV for many years before it causes health problems like warts in both men and women. Currently there is no test to see if you have HPV and the only treatment is for the symptoms HPV produces. Some people never see any symptoms and it goes away on its own. This is why some doctors want to vaccinate preteens before they become sexually active since there is no test or treatment for the HPV infection.

Sorry to hear about this and hopefully the warts and the infection will go away in time like it does in many cases.

[QUOTE=Purple45;3160809]Unfortunately everyone is at risk to HPV even if you practice safe sex. The reason is simply that condoms do not cover the entire genital area of either sex. They leave the vagina, anus, perineal area, base of the penis, and scrotum uncovered, and just skin to skin contact between these areas can transmit HPV.

A person may have had HPV for many years before it causes health problems like warts in both men and women. Currently there is no test to see if you have HPV and the only treatment is for the symptoms HPV produces. Some people never see any symptoms and it goes away on its own. This is why some doctors want to vaccinate preteens before they become sexually active since there is no test or treatment for the HPV infection.

Sorry to hear about this and hopefully the warts and the infection will go away in time like it does in many cases.[/QUOTE]You're dead on Purple. I was not aware of HPV risks before I caught it. Thankfully I seem to respond well to the treatment but it's a tough one (it's a mini-chemo to treat the warts), I'm tired, it hurts. On a side note, I didn't expect my new Dr to be that attractive which adds to the discomfort of having her checking my privates. I had all the other tests done and -thank god- came back negative, I was anxious because if I caught something even with condoms, what else could have I caught.

[QUOTE=Jlart123;3160129]So I found out recently that my name has been placed on an Escort Bad Boy Report online for giving a provider an envelope stuffed with paper instead of roses (the incident itself happened in 2011). It's embarrassing and effecting my personal life and is the first thing that comes up on Google Search. Not to worried about BP because those girls don't screen or no about sites like these for the most part but certainly I have concerns about my family, work, or potential relationships being affected by this. Any Suggestions or Advice on how to handle this? PMs would be preferable.[/QUOTE]I'm not entirely certain how you can complain. USASG members regularly alert us to providers who are theives. You stole from her and you were similarly reviewed. I will never understand why anyone would use their real name with a SP, or steal from someone because they 'provide illegal services' (illegal services were being sought). You made your bed -- lay in it. At $12/ hour, you may want to consider the SW scene or a good bottle of lube.

I agree with Buki1. Many of us have been ripped off in one way or another by a provider and have rightfully complained. Stealing is a sword that cuts both ways, and any of us who steal from a provider deserves to reap what comes from that. And sadly there does not seem to be any remorse for the stealing, just for the consequences of the stealing. And no, 300 for an hour and making 12 an hour is not good enough. There are more than a few providers that I would like to see but can't afford their donation. So I do what most of us do and see those who I like and who fit within my budget. A "high" donation is never an excuse to cheat her out of anything. OK, getting off the soapbox now.

[QUOTE=Jlart123;3160129]So I found out recently that my name has been placed on an Escort Bad Boy Report online for giving a provider an envelope stuffed with paper instead of roses (the incident itself happened in 2011). It's embarrassing and effecting my personal life and is the first thing that comes up on Google Search. Not to worried about BP because those girls don't screen or no about sites like these for the most part but certainly I have concerns about my family, work, or potential relationships being affected by this. Any Suggestions or Advice on how to handle this? PMs would be preferable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jlart123;3160236]300 for an hour and only 1 pop. Also I only make 12 an hr. Good enough for you?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Buki1;3161598]I'm not entirely certain how you can complain. USASG members regularly alert us to providers who are theives. You stole from her and you were similarly reviewed. I will never understand why anyone would use their real name with a SP, or steal from someone because they 'provide illegal services' (illegal services were being sought). You made your bed -- lay in it. At $12/ hour, you may want to consider the SW scene or a good bottle of lube.[/QUOTE]

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Should I keep going?

Also,

-If you live in Cary and it comes up, tell them you live in Knightdale and traffic was shitty.

- never send pics.

-never give out what you're driving.

- Tell her you will be there in 30 minutes and get there in 15-20 and say "oops I misjudged, what's the room #? (better yet, if you can get the room # before you go, great. Yes, I've done it several times).

- If she says "park in the back on the right" do no such thing, tell her you already parked and are walking, what's the room#? What floor? (that also feeds into getting the layout before you go, which can be done. Back or front, which floor, which side. Good to know before you get close to pulling up).

- The LEO check must pass with flying colors (preferably sticky fingers) before any cash moves, and honestly, I finish most deeds before pulling out any cash. Whatever semblance of charm I have, I save for these times.

I did a bit of research, similar to what we do with service providers. Yeah, you're sorta screwed; your identity is easily traced. Hopefully this is something you will learn from and not repeat the same mistakes. Since you're a *ichigan 'man', I don't have much sympathy for you, though I never did based on the behavior that led to your initial post. Enjoy The Game today.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;3162591]-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Should I keep going?

Also,

-If you live in Cary and it comes up, tell them you live in Knightdale and traffic was shitty.

- never send pics.

-never give out what you're driving.

- Tell her you will be there in 30 minutes and get there in 15-20 and say "oops I misjudged, what's the room #? (better yet, if you can get the room # before you go, great. Yes, I've done it several times).

- If she says "park in the back on the right" do no such thing, tell her you already parked and are walking, what's the room#? What floor? (that also feeds into getting the layout before you go, which can be done. Back or front, which floor, which side. Good to know before you get close to pulling up).

- The LEO check must pass with flying colors (preferably sticky fingers) before any cash moves, and honestly, I finish most deeds before pulling out any cash. Whatever semblance of charm I have, I save for these times.[/QUOTE]In all seriousness, absolutely excellent advice. Especially if you are new, please search Amateur11's posts for additional quality information / tips about this hobby. He knows his stuff.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;3162591]-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Never give your real name or use your real number.

-Should I keep going?

Also,

-If you live in Cary and it comes up, tell them you live in Knightdale and traffic was shitty.

- never send pics.

-never give out what you're driving.

- Tell her you will be there in 30 minutes and get there in 15-20 and say "oops I misjudged, what's the room #? (better yet, if you can get the room # before you go, great. Yes, I've done it several times).

- If she says "park in the back on the right" do no such thing, tell her you already parked and are walking, what's the room#? What floor? (that also feeds into getting the layout before you go, which can be done. Back or front, which floor, which side. Good to know before you get close to pulling up).

- The LEO check must pass with flying colors (preferably sticky fingers) before any cash moves, and honestly, I finish most deeds before pulling out any cash. Whatever semblance of charm I have, I save for these times.[/QUOTE]LEO checks are bs. If there is a cop in the room you are already busted. The best way for a hobbyist to avoid LE is to look up history, while the best way for a provider to avoid LEO is to SCREEN. If a provider did it your way there would be no way of knowing whether or not you are LE unless you give references. Making sure both parties don't get caught should be top priority.

[QUOTE=Buki1;3162670]In all seriousness, absolutely excellent advice. Especially if you are new, please search Amateur11's posts for additional quality information / tips about this hobby. He knows his stuff.[/QUOTE]Some of this is common sense (at least sense common to experienced hobbying, gathered along the way) but most of the credit goes to other members over the years who have come and gone from this site.

[QUOTE=InaraIncognito;3162695]LEO checks are bs. If there is a cop in the room you are already busted. The best way for a hobbyist to avoid LE is to look up history, while the best way for a provider to avoid LEO is to SCREEN. If a provider did it your way there would be no way of knowing whether or not you are LE unless you give references. Making sure both parties don't get caught should be top priority.[/QUOTE]There is a lot of truth to that, but it also makes me wonder how those guys ended up picking that "girl" in the first place. IMO, a lot of this just comes down to instinct, common sense, reading enough, researching, and IQ. There have been a lot of odd ads on BP and CL lately; here is a prime example that I was meaning to post about in another thread: Either a very attractive, young looking, or no-posted-pic ad from some number you can find nothing on, or a number tied to a major carrier (verizon, att, sprint, etc. Not foolproof, but usually the girls don't use these, they're using Google voice, cricket, tmobile, etc. Carriers that don't require a CREDIT CHECK among other things) - AND / OR. What I've SPECIFICALLY seen recently, is you reply to an ad, and often don't get a reply for hours, at which time someone asks "Hi what's your name? Where are you from? What do you drive?" HELLO red flags. Has anyone else experienced this?

Also, to me, for whatever reason, I will never visit anyone on Glenwood Ave or in RTP or Cary / Morrisville. Just won't do it. Take it for what you will. That's fine you say, pick a girl who's been reviewed here or who you've seen before, but then there is the slim possibility she is working with LEO to get a charge waived. Some members have posted about this before, but I've seen scant evidence of it in my readings. Has this actually happened around here? 1-2% chance? Always a risk, but the biggest thing IMO is not ONE thing, but your intuition / spidey sense in aggregate from what you know.

[QUOTE=InaraIncognito;3162695]LEO checks are bs. If there is a cop in the room you are already busted. The best way for a hobbyist to avoid LE is to look up history, while the best way for a provider to avoid LEO is to SCREEN. If a provider did it your way there would be no way of knowing whether or not you are LE unless you give references. Making sure both parties don't get caught should be top priority.[/QUOTE]What are the typical methods providers screen?

Is google voice number good enough. Or do providers like bobby etc screen that?

[QUOTE=ADreamer;3163030]What are the typical methods providers screen?

Is google voice number good enough. Or do providers like bobby etc screen that?[/QUOTE]Honestly if you try to book a provider who screens and you don't have any review history, you aren't on a verification site and don't have references you will probably be denied using a Google voice or burner phone. Most of us are willing to work with those who would like to preserve their anonymity provided they can assure us through some way that they aren't LE or won't rob or harm us. If a person has nothing to show me then yes, I want a real name and phone number. I've been fortunate to avoid prospective clients who are the sex offender list or who have been charged with a violent crime this way. If a client does something blacklist worthy, I use a blacklist database that's only accessible to verified providers and blocks out part of the name, email address, and phone number unless you search with one that happens to have a BL entry. I don't agree with using public blacklists but I do not feel sorry for Jlart123 at all.

I definitely agree with going with intuition on both sides of the aisle, and I will say if you want to see someone who doesn't appear to screen I would be very wary. Whether it's indicative of LE, drug use, a pimp or just complete irresponsibility you are still taking a huge risk. It's true sometimes providers get caught and cooperate with LE in exchange for dismissal so like I said it's in everyone's best interest to be smart and cautious.

[QUOTE=ADreamer;3163030]What are the typical methods providers screen?

Is google voice number good enough. Or do providers like bobby etc screen that?[/QUOTE]Not unless you have review history, references or a handle on a verification site. Otherwise you will end up being denied or have to see someone who doesn't screen which is always risky.

Seeing a provider who screens is pretty important. Those who don't are more likely to be LE, get caught by LE, do drugs or just be irresponsible in general. And as Amateur 12 mentioned it's always possible a provider who is caught could work with the police for a lesser charge. So it's in everyone's best interest to be smart and cautious.

Any provider who asks me for a fucking reference or to prove I'm not LE with some kind of personally identifying can get lost. Are you a provider? In a decade of hobbying, I've never once been asked for a reference, and I've met plenty of girls, most at least acceptable, many decent, and quite a few gems. If it feels too "set up" and professional, it is an immediate boner killer for me. And the thought of calling an agency? Please. Not for me at all. Yeah, I want to call some madam or male attendant and give out some info like I'm calling to sign up for cable. If it doesn't feel like I'm picking up a girl who I haven't seen post before, is independent, lighthearted, horny and fun, and posts NORMAL pics that represent her true self (not glittery glam airbrushed pics), hasn't been reviewed (banged) by 500 guys, then I'm not interested. I can at least live in a fantasyworld of porn of a girl like that, rather than be expected to spend $200 to be questioned and treated with skepticism or like I want every fucking girl I've been with in the hobby to be talking with others and thus have a MAJOR impediment to anonymity.

I'm sure there are a lot of old, sad guys with more money than sense who haven't gotten laid 10 times in the last decade who are more than willing to call up an agency, give them their name and credit card, and beg to pay $400 to be "screened" or to give a "reference" just to fuck a girl who thinks she knows something and has a pussy, but I can (and have, several DOZEN times) found plenty of attractive, non-addicted, non-pro pussy over the years for $80 or less and most importantly, NO BULLSHIT!

[QUOTE=Amateur11;3162931]Some of this is common sense (at least sense common to experienced hobbying, gathered along the way) but most of the credit goes to other members over the years who have come and gone from this site.[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree. We have all learned from those experienced members, and are now in a position to give back and help folks avoid newbie and potentially dangerous mistakes.