[QUOTE=CardMan1014;5601273]Is Dollys still around or somewhere with a "behind the beads" type exprience.[/QUOTE]See post #2347, Dollies is permanently closed. The behind the beads experience is only a fond memory.
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[QUOTE=CardMan1014;5601273]Is Dollys still around or somewhere with a "behind the beads" type exprience.[/QUOTE]See post #2347, Dollies is permanently closed. The behind the beads experience is only a fond memory.
Has anyone seen Vee yet at Devil Darlings? Was wondering if she offered the same dance she did at Country Rock.
[QUOTE=BigDaddy1983;5606827]Has anyone seen Vee yet at Devil Darlings? Was wondering if she offered the same dance she did at Country Rock.[/QUOTE]I don't know about Vee, but I dropped by DD to check it out a few weeks ago on a weeknight and was unimpressed. Absolutely dead; I was the only guy in there. Only two girls: one skinny blonde chick pouring drinks, and another who was dancing but bragged how she'd never go nude, etc. Cool enough to talk to, and normally I love the thin, tatted up chicks, but I didn't come for company, good conversation, or to talk tattoos without seeing some TNA as well.
Not sure I'll be back.
I've read through the last several pages and have gotten the impression the scene is still pretty rough. I'm not able to tell what places are actually worth visiting currently, though, if any. Could anyone provide a summary of where isn't a waste of time and what to expect? Specifically for the first half of the week more so than the back half.
[QUOTE=MiningForGold;5599415]It's been many years, but I stopped into C Mowes to check out the changes:
They still have the two open stalls but they're building 2 private rooms with a door.
All of the women are former Wise Guys girls. Apparently, some stayed at WG, some or maybe most, are at C Mowes with Lexy.
The most welcome change is the 30 minute private area will be $20 to the bar, it was $100 at WG.
The standard ask from the girl for 30 minutes is $300, so it's now $320 versus $400 at WG. The private rooms at WG were absolutely disgusting, dirty and smelly. If the private areas at C Mowes are decent, it will be a huge improvement.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to any Wise Guys or C Mowes is a long long time. I just did a quick google and it looks like construction on those two rooms bankrupted them because it said permanently closed? Well I missed my chance I guess.
[QUOTE=Nadash;5618331]I haven't been to any Wise Guys or C Mowes is a long long time. I just did a quick google and it looks like construction on those two rooms bankrupted them because it said permanently closed? Well I missed my chance I guess.[/QUOTE]You guessed wrong. So you Googled it, the profile said "permanently closed" and you just took it as accurate? I'm not sure why it shows up on Google as closed but the club is open. Search FB for "Cmowes Show Club" to find their current page.
[QUOTE=Prof30;5617515]I don't know about Vee, but I dropped by DD to check it out a few weeks ago on a weeknight and was unimpressed. Absolutely dead; I was the only guy in there. Only two girls: one skinny blonde chick pouring drinks, and another who was dancing but bragged how she'd never go nude, etc. Cool enough to talk to, and normally I love the thin, tatted up chicks, but I didn't come for company, good conversation, or to talk tattoos without seeing some TNA as well.
Not sure I'll be back.[/QUOTE]I stopped in twice, late afternoon and early evening. 1 or 2 "dancers" 1 or no other customers. Perhaps they don't care. It appears that it's owned by a group out of Chicago and the information that I've learned and heard is that it's the same strategy as the Strip Club on the Netflix show "Ozarks. " Read between the lines. It makes sense, that area has been dead for a long time, I never understood the marketing model to put a new club in there in the current market.
[QUOTE=MiningForGold;5619957]I stopped in twice, late afternoon and early evening. 1 or 2 "dancers" 1 or no other customers. Perhaps they don't care. It appears that it's owned by a group out of Chicago and the information that I've learned and heard is that it's the same strategy as the Strip Club on the Netflix show "Ozarks. " Read between the lines. It makes sense, that area has been dead for a long time, I never understood the marketing model to put a new club in there in the current market.[/QUOTE]What is the strategy for the strip club on the show Ozarks?
[QUOTE=StevenHyde;5620257]What is the strategy for the strip club on the show Ozarks?[/QUOTE]Well if you need a legitimate business that will allow you to process and exchange a lot of cash money bills that may have been less-than-legally acquired for other more legal dollar bills.
[QUOTE=StevenHyde;5620257]What is the strategy for the strip club on the show Ozarks?[/QUOTE]I was wondering the same thing! I might have to watch that series now. It is one that I've kept meaning to watch but not around to it.
I think the club might get busier of weekends but I've not had a chance to check it out myself.
[QUOTE=StevenHyde;5620257]What is the strategy for the strip club on the show Ozarks?[/QUOTE]Here's a little lengthy but I believe accurate explanation. Marty, (the main character and launderer) mixes dirty cash (actually in the show clean, but it's to prove that he can eventually handle dirty cash, so ultimately it doesn't matter) with legitimate cash by using the strip club and other businesses. Suddenly the strip club is doing amazing business, even if in reality they are not. This is the money laundering 101. Okay, so far so good, Marty now has a legitimate source to hide the money. Problem is is that money is not money the Cartel can access, but in actual fact only 'clean' as far as Marty is concerned. Now he has to get the money to the cartel. He could pay the cartel, perhaps have a joint bank account, or even pay into a cartel owned fake investment company, I assume direct wire transfers would be too risky, but there would be ways of getting the money to them.
Now, What seems to be confusing a lot of people is that Marty spends a lot of his time over inflating orders of various things for the the strip club, as well as building a church. This is spending money, not explaining to the IRS about why you have more money, hence the confusion. The reason for this is that this is not about Marty laundering money, it is a way for him to get the money to the cartels in the least suspicious way possible. The cartel own a shell company (probably actually run by Marty) which provides all manner of goods and services, which Marty starts buying all of his goods for the club, businesses, and building costs etc from. In order to be the least suspicious, some of these services will have to actually be provided, this is where some of the loss that Marty explains to the cartel come in, they subcontract the orders to legitimate businesses. However Marty has payed for considerably more (ie 25 aircon units and only receiving 4, very expensive carpet, actually receive shitty stuff, top class organic beef get normal quality, as well as massive amounts etc.) than the cartel company pays these subcontractors, so the cartel services shell company has made a lot of legitimate profit. Marty basically had to keep finding excuses to spend the money, then overbill (this is slightly risky, as perhaps people could check what physically arrived) or best, just pay much more than the going rate (always to the cartel service provider) providing the cartel with their clean cash. Next point is that the beauty of this scheme means that Marty's expenses for his businesses are going to be huge with all this over billing and fake invoices etc, meaning he can inflate his revenue (with the above mentioned mixing of dirty money and legit) to the max he deems would not arouse suspicion, yet his overall profit (and hence taxable income) could remain at zero due to how much spending he's doing. This way he can clean the money without even paying any tax on it! He only loses money on things he buys (although in the case of AC's etc they have some resell value, uneaten hamburgers not so much) but this is all part of the money laundering process, which criminals will expect. Side note, this is why Marty pushed the church so hard, he could keep that going for a long time, with the hotel after it has been renovated, it will be harder and harder to keep billing for things, same as the strip club, and then profits will rise and taxes paid, as well as fewer ways to get the money to the cartel shell company.
[QUOTE=Smhoehne;5621125]Here's a little lengthy but I believe accurate explanation. Marty, (the main character and launderer) mixes dirty cash (actually in the show clean, but it's to prove that he can eventually handle dirty cash, so ultimately it doesn't matter) with legitimate cash by using the strip club and other businesses. Suddenly the strip club is doing amazing business, even if in reality they are not. This is the money laundering 101. Okay, so far so good, Marty now has a legitimate source to hide the money. Problem is is that money is not money the Cartel can access, but in actual fact only 'clean' as far as Marty is concerned. Now he has to get the money to the cartel. He could pay the cartel, perhaps have a joint bank account, or even pay into a cartel owned fake investment company, I assume direct wire transfers would be too risky, but there would be ways of getting the money to them.
Now, What seems to be confusing a lot of people is that Marty spends a lot of his time over inflating orders of various things for the the strip club, as well as building a church. This is spending money, not explaining to the IRS about why you have more money, hence the confusion. The reason for this is that this is not about Marty laundering money, it is a way for him to get the money to the cartels in the least suspicious way possible. The cartel own a shell company (probably actually run by Marty) which provides all manner of goods and services, which Marty starts buying all of his goods for the club, businesses, and building costs etc from. In order to be the least suspicious, some of these services will have to actually be provided, this is where some of the loss that Marty explains to the cartel come in, they subcontract the orders to legitimate businesses. However Marty has payed for considerably more (ie 25 aircon units and only receiving 4, very expensive carpet, actually receive shitty stuff, top class organic beef get normal quality, as well as massive amounts etc.) than the cartel company pays these subcontractors, so the cartel services shell company has made a lot of legitimate profit. Marty basically had to keep finding excuses to spend the money, then overbill (this is slightly risky, as perhaps people could check what physically arrived) or best, just pay much more than the going rate (always to the cartel service provider) providing the cartel with their clean cash. Next point is that the beauty of this scheme means that Marty's expenses for his businesses are going to be huge with all this over billing and fake invoices etc, meaning he can inflate his revenue (with the above mentioned mixing of dirty money and legit) to the max he deems would not arouse suspicion, yet his overall profit (and hence taxable income) could remain at zero due to how much spending he's doing. This way he can clean the money without even paying any tax on it! He only loses money on things he buys (although in the case of AC's etc they have some resell value, uneaten hamburgers not so much) but this is all part of the money laundering process, which criminals will expect. Side note, this is why Marty pushed the church so hard, he could keep that going for a long time, with the hotel after it has been renovated, it will be harder and harder to keep billing for things, same as the strip club, and then profits will rise and taxes paid, as well as fewer ways to get the money to the cartel shell company.[/QUOTE]Very thorough! Thank you!
[QUOTE=MiningForGold;5619957]I stopped in twice, late afternoon and early evening. 1 or 2 "dancers" 1 or no other customers. Perhaps they don't care. It appears that it's owned by a group out of Chicago and the information that I've learned and heard is that it's the same strategy as the Strip Club on the Netflix show "Ozarks. " Read between the lines. It makes sense, that area has been dead for a long time, I never understood the marketing model to put a new club in there in the current market.[/QUOTE]I didn't understand the business plan either. And they don't seem to be doing well at all. And as I understand it any of the ladies caught or suspicion of doing anything extra in or out of the club will be terminated and the guy banned.
So I am very close to taking the plunge and going to see what is up at Cmowes. From the looks of their Facebook it appears that the operation at wise guys basically started back up but across the street. I was trying to hold out to see if anyone has been, just to verify that everything is the same and in terms of backroom services and costs. If you have been to CMOS please send me a PM and let me know if everything is the same. And if I haven't heard anything in a day or two I guess I will take one for the team and report back.
[QUOTE=StevenHyde;5625849]So I am very close to taking the plunge and going to see what is up at Cmowes. From the looks of their Facebook it appears that the operation at wise guys basically started back up but across the street. I was trying to hold out to see if anyone has been, just to verify that everything is the same and in terms of backroom services and costs. If you have been to CMOS please send me a PM and let me know if everything is the same. And if I haven't heard anything in a day or two I guess I will take one for the team and report back.[/QUOTE]I reported on CMowes, it should provide background for you.