Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Filmbyter;3525583]Visited Dayton Thursday night and stopped in Harem. Both the club and talent was nicer than expected based on reviews. Reminded me some of the East Michigan "titty bars. " Paid the cover and sat at a table for 5 minutes or so, no waitress, no drink. Didn't mind. Chloe sat down to chat, and gave off all the right signals (hand on my knee under the table for example). Went to do lap dances in the back room. Lined with benches where a number of other girls were also giving dances. She offered 2 for 40 or 4 for 60. I said lets do 2, and a minute into the first song I told her I'd like to do 4. Topless, skimpy G string, and lots of contact. She also said you can get a half an hour in a private room for 200 or an hour for 400, but I didn't do that. I assume tipping isn't included. Maybe another time.[/QUOTE]Might want to do a bit more research next time. If a dancer offers 2/40, decline and state you want 2/20. There are few dancers there who with the looks to be commanding 2/30, let alone 2/40. Many will agree for 2/20, especially if they know you will get more if the dance is good. Most of the remaining ones will counter with 2/25 or 2/30. The ones who stay firm at 2/40 aren't worth it, so skip her. If she counters with 2/30 she will likely agree to a 2/25 counter. At this point it's up to you to determine if she is worth the price.

Regardless, no dancer in Harem is worth 2/40.

You were right avoiding the half hour private room. You rarely have a better time upstairs, and those I know of who were worth it don't dance at Harem anymore. You can get a half hour of lap dances for under a $100 in the regular room.

[QUOTE=Filmbyter;3525583]Visited Dayton Thursday night and stopped in Harem. Both the club and talent was nicer than expected based on reviews. Reminded me some of the East Michigan "titty bars. " Paid the cover and sat at a table for 5 minutes or so, no waitress, no drink. Didn't mind. Chloe sat down to chat, and gave off all the right signals (hand on my knee under the table for example). Went to do lap dances in the back room. Lined with benches where a number of other girls were also giving dances. She offered 2 for 40 or 4 for 60. I said lets do 2, and a minute into the first song I told her I'd like to do 4. Topless, skimpy G string, and lots of contact. She also said you can get a half an hour in a private room for 200 or an hour for 400, but I didn't do that. I assume tipping isn't included. Maybe another time.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with those that negotiate the Dancers prices but. I would disagree that there aren't any girls worth 2/40 there. Here has been my strategy. I ask a girl what she charges for dances. If I feel it's too high, I will simply say " I'll think about it, check with me later" which usually results in her negotiating down without making me look like a cheapskate. I have a friend on this board who is very successful negotiating down and I think he just enjoys the negotiating game But he has also been a regular for years. I think if you think the young Lady is worth her asking price, the quality of your dances you receive can be much better when you haven't negotiated. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=LustForLust;3525429]Sad to hear. I have fond partial memories of the place.

First time I (briefly) ate a dancer was there.

Um, you have my attention here.[/QUOTE]Used to be fun gals at Sharkey's, brat at the bar was legenday, ivy was a lot of fun daytime and like to be orally stimulated.

[QUOTE=NotANewbie;3525756]I don't disagree with those that negotiate the Dancers prices but. I would disagree that there aren't any girls worth 2/40 there. Here has been my strategy. I ask a girl what she charges for dances. If I feel it's too high, I will simply say " I'll think about it, check with me later" which usually results in her negotiating down without making me look like a cheapskate. I have a friend on this board who is very successful negotiating down and I think he just enjoys the negotiating game But he has also been a regular for years. I think if you think the young Lady is worth her asking price, the quality of your dances you receive can be much better when you haven't negotiated. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I rarely ever ask a girl what she charges since that is too open ended. (also by law they are not allowed tell you.) When they approach me for a dance, I simply say "I do 2 for $xx" where "xx" is whatever I feel the going rate should be for the moment. If she accepts. Then fine. If not she will usually counter offer in which case I consider the talent and assess the value. I have been known to pay a substantial price for a couple of dances with the right girl, however, as a rule I find the girls that PUSH the high fees telling you "they are worth it" are usually full of themselves and give crappy dances. If a young lady spends unrushed time with me I'm prone to be generous.

One rule to follow: Know what the cost will be before you go back there. I've seen a couple of girls take an unsuspecting guy to the cleaners demanding $60 for two dances or more and pressuring the guy to pay-up by getting LOUD!

[QUOTE=TheDaytimer;3526217]I rarely ever ask a girl what she charges since that is too open ended. (also by law they are not allowed tell you.) When they approach me for a dance, I simply say "I do 2 for $xx" where "xx" is whatever I feel the going rate should be for the moment. If she accepts. Then fine. If not she will usually counter offer in which case I consider the talent and assess the value. I have been known to pay a substantial price for a couple of dances with the right girl, however, as a rule I find the girls that PUSH the high fees telling you "they are worth it" are usually full of themselves and give crappy dances. If a young lady spends unrushed time with me I'm prone to be generous.

One rule to follow: Know what the cost will be before you go back there. I've seen a couple of girls take an unsuspecting guy to the cleaners demanding $60 for two dances or more and pressuring the guy to pay-up by getting LOUD![/QUOTE]You are right about a lot of the ones that over value theirselves. You can usually tell who they are when they sit down and talk to you. AVOID AT ALL COSTS, the ones that tell you "They give the best dances and I guarantee you will leave happy!

[QUOTE=NotANewbie;3525756]I don't disagree with those that negotiate the Dancers prices but. I would disagree that there aren't any girls worth 2/40 there. Here has been my strategy. I ask a girl what she charges for dances. If I feel it's too high, I will simply say " I'll think about it, check with me later" which usually results in her negotiating down without making me look like a cheapskate. I have a friend on this board who is very successful negotiating down and I think he just enjoys the negotiating game But he has also been a regular for years. I think if you think the young Lady is worth her asking price, the quality of your dances you receive can be much better when you haven't negotiated. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]If you are lucky enough to find a dancer (s) at a club that you see on a weekly basis, or for that matter a "monthly" schedule, she will not only give you $10 dances but won't count the dances and make sure your friends are well cared for. Also she will probably suggest some OTC activities that will be of mutual interest. Even though I am only a regular member, I have been around the SC scene for more than a few decades and have had more than a few of such encounters.

Think I'll try the Harem one more time. So which day is better to go? Friday or Tuesday?

[QUOTE=FootMan2007;3527659]Think I'll try the Harem one more time. So which day is better to go? Friday or Tuesday?[/QUOTE]Friday days are better and Tuesday nights. Friday night is the young crowd and the dancers are usually not as friendly.

[QUOTE=FootMan2007;3527659]Think I'll try the Harem one more time. So which day is better to go? Friday or Tuesday?[/QUOTE]Friday is FREE LUNCH until food runs out which is usually 1:30 or so.

The lunch crowd has a lot of freeloaders who don't tip very well and they thin out around 1:00 leaving lots of nice ladies and few customers which is good for us guys. Also the Friday early night shift usually begins to trickle in around 4:30 increasing the selection.

That said - I'll be there Tuesday around noon and I do expect a decent lineup of fine ladies.

[QUOTE=FootMan2007;3527659]Think I'll try the Harem one more time. So which day is better to go? Friday or Tuesday?[/QUOTE]Tuesday's are normally decent (I should be there around 12 also) but last Friday was incredible! There have been several Cheeks dancers, several girls from Indy and even a couple from Lima coming in to greatly increase the high quality of the lineup. I would have to say between 12-4, there were 6-8 legitimate 8-9's and another 5-6 7-8's. Another crew came in around 7:30-8 of beauties including one that I don't want to share who is a 9+.

I used to like to check out the local clubs, with the hope oof extras. Now it seems like the biggest cash waste with the least payoff.

Am I doing the clubs wrong?

[QUOTE=ArchEnemy22;3528058]I used to like to check out the local clubs, with the hope oof extras. Now it seems like the biggest cash waste with the least payoff.

Am I doing the clubs wrong?[/QUOTE]If you are just looking for the extras, yes, it is definetly not a great investment. When you can probably get an hour with a decent hooker for 150-200, Clubs are a complete waste. If you're looking to sit back, relax, listen to music and occasionally spend some time with a beautiful young lady that probably wouldn't give you the time of day out in the real world, that's more of what the " Dayton" area clubs are for. I know because of others and from what I've seen and been offered at times, there is a possibility of more and even OTC but generally unless you are just Gods gift to women, you have to invest a lot of time, money and energy for that to happen. I've got to meet some amazing young ladies and some absolute train wrecks, have actually dated (dinner, etc.) several young women but most importantly to me have actually made several friends during my trek. So unless you are a weirdo / dork like me that is actually just lonely and enjoying companionship, clubs are not your answer.

Go to Detroit or Akron if you want extras in a club.

[QUOTE=NotANewbie;3528150]If you are just looking for the extras, yes, it is definetly not a great investment. When you can probably get an hour with a decent hooker for 150-200, Clubs are a complete waste. If you're looking to sit back, relax, listen to music and occasionally spend some time with a beautiful young lady that probably wouldn't give you the time of day out in the real world, that's more of what the " Dayton" area clubs are for. I know because of others and from what I've seen and been offered at times, there is a possibility of more and even OTC but generally unless you are just Gods gift to women, you have to invest a lot of time, money and energy for that to happen. I've got to meet some amazing young ladies and some absolute train wrecks, have actually dated (dinner, etc.) several young women but most importantly to me have actually made several friends during my trek. So unless you are a weirdo / dork like me that is actually just lonely and enjoying companionship, clubs are not your answer.[/QUOTE]

This is going to sound like a shill review and I guess it is a little bit. Pizzazz has some new management including some of the more respected guys in the Dayton scene. They're trying hard to attract a decent quality of dancer. I'm stopping in tonight for the first time to see if it's working. If it is, it'll be nice to have a new option.

[QUOTE=MrPink614;3528811]This is going to sound like a shill review and I guess it is a little bit. Pizzazz has some new management including some of the more respected guys in the Dayton scene. They're trying hard to attract a decent quality of dancer. I'm stopping in tonight for the first time to see if it's working. If it is, it'll be nice to have a new option.[/QUOTE]The new mangers are from Harem and NyNy. They both got fired from previous positions. I know the one from NyNy had gotten a possession charge when they had that investigating this past summer. The other from Harem has all kinds of "bad ratings" on the clubs Facebook page. Possibly could get away with a lot at Pizzaz now then what you could at other clubs since both are pretty careless what goes on at their shift. Also a lot of girls from NyNy has been going to Pizzaz.