The Woodshed

[QUOTE=CantB1;3479555]Play more and pay less is my motto. I contacted a newbie on BP a few days ago. She told me she was only doing car visits right now. She asked for 80. I nicely said that's more than I normally pay and she told me stop being cheap. I told her I'm sure she will have other callers who say the same. She said she had plenty that will pay what she ask. She should have no problem having a room than. I'm not going to pay that. She was decent looking spinner but not all that. These hookers rates should match their looks. Even the 5 and below scaled providers want 2 bens an hour.[/QUOTE]For a car date and she was reluctant to provide a phucking decent real pix! It kills me how some of them can be so unrealistic but you know, other guys are putting up with their shit so they think everyone should. Man, like I mentioned, the SWer scene never looked better for me and I've found some pretty decent looking girls. Like I said, if I'm going to pay a significant amount of money, it won't be on someone from BP! Hell no!

Will be back soon.

New to the area providers or BP ladies are bombarded with men from all walks. After a few smelly balls, slovenly dates, and rip offs, I know I came up with a figure in my head of "how much do I need to charge to get through this without complaint?" Their increases are likely a direct result of some nasty mongers fucking it up for everybody.

I had several gents that would visit for less than the advertised rate. They were great examples of hobbiests that I could trust to show up clean, no dip in donation, conduct themselves responsibly, and a consistently pleasant experience. If eating the same cereal sounds appealing, consider a business relationship with a provider you can afford and enjoy.

[QUOTE=WhiteNite2000;3479821]For a car date and she was reluctant to provide a phucking decent real pix! It kills me how some of them can be so unrealistic but you know, other guys are putting up with their shit so they think everyone should. Man, like I mentioned, the SWer scene never looked better for me and I've found some pretty decent looking girls. Like I said, if I'm going to pay a significant amount of money, it won't be on someone from BP! Hell no![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ThePrivAsst;3490365]New to the area providers or BP ladies are bombarded with men from all walks. After a few smelly balls, slovenly dates, and rip offs, I know I came up with a figure in my head of "how much do I need to charge to get through this without complaint?" Their increases are likely a direct result of some nasty mongers fucking it up for everybody.

I had several gents that would visit for less than the advertised rate. They were great examples of hobbiests that I could trust to show up clean, no dip in donation, conduct themselves responsibly, and a consistently pleasant experience. If eating the same cereal sounds appealing, consider a business relationship with a provider you can afford and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Well said TPA. Might add that establishment of a firm price-point will also discourage the low-ballers; some of the nuisance inquiries; as will not offering QV times. The business arrangement makes perfect sense and advice. Better to have a weekly or bi-weekly regular at "X " instead of a one-timer as "X+1. " JMHO.

[QUOTE=CantB1;3479555]Play more and pay less is my motto. I contacted a newbie on BP a few days ago. She told me she was only doing car visits right now. She asked for 80. I nicely said that's more than I normally pay and she told me stop being cheap. I told her I'm sure she will have other callers who say the same. She said she had plenty that will pay what she ask. She should have no problem having a room than. I'm not going to pay that. She was decent looking spinner but not all that. These hookers rates should match their looks. Even the 5 and below scaled providers want 2 bens an hour.[/QUOTE]This sounds like Rizzo / Leila / Marissa, the one who ads say you have to pick her up.

[QUOTE=CantB1;3479555]Play more and pay less is my motto. I contacted a newbie on BP a few days ago. She told me she was only doing car visits right now. She asked for 80. I nicely said that's more than I normally pay and she told me stop being cheap. I told her I'm sure she will have other callers who say the same. She said she had plenty that will pay what she ask. She should have no problem having a room than. I'm not going to pay that. She was decent looking spinner but not all that. These hookers rates should match their looks. Even the 5 and below scaled providers want 2 bens an hour.[/QUOTE]Was it that blonde kelly off st John's bluff? She quoted me 80 but it would have to be a car date to which I replied "then you get street prices" so I knocked it off for 50. She is definitely forgettable, wouldn't repeat. Constant gagging, almost threw up on me during the money shot. The box wasn't anything special but got the job done.

[QUOTE=Pseudonymous;3491213]This sounds like Rizzo / Leila / Marissa, the one who ads say you have to pick her up.[/QUOTE]Nope not none of them.

[QUOTE=TunPunFun;3491257]Was it that blonde kelly off st John's bluff? She quoted me 80 but it would have to be a car date to which I replied "then you get street prices" so I knocked it off for 50. She is definitely forgettable, wouldn't repeat. Constant gagging, almost threw up on me during the money shot. The box wasn't anything special but got the job done.[/QUOTE]Not her either. It was a girl that was in Youngerman only seen her post a couple times. I'm kinda picky nowadays. I don't want any provider who posts BP regularly.

[QUOTE=Herbvette;3490958]Well said TPA. Might add that establishment of a firm price-point will also discourage the low-ballers; some of the nuisance inquiries; as will not offering QV times. The business arrangement makes perfect sense and advice. Better to have a weekly or bi-weekly regular at "X " instead of a one-timer as "X+1. " JMHO.[/QUOTE]I prefer to have weekly or bi weekly keep cheap skates out!!

[QUOTE=ThePrivAsst;3490365]New to the area providers or BP ladies are bombarded with men from all walks. After a few smelly balls, slovenly dates, and rip offs, I know I came up with a figure in my head of "how much do I need to charge to get through this without complaint?" Their increases are likely a direct result of some nasty mongers fucking it up for everybody.

I had several gents that would visit for less than the advertised rate. They were great examples of hobbiests that I could trust to show up clean, no dip in donation, conduct themselves responsibly, and a consistently pleasant experience. If eating the same cereal sounds appealing, consider a business relationship with a provider you can afford and enjoy.[/QUOTE]I've had some conversations with providers about this, and they've shown me some of the attempts at guys being cheap as fuck. If you don't want to pay a girl's rate, then just don't? The market will adjust accordingly, right?

Worse yet, there was one guy who literally left a shit stain on a girl's sheets, he was so unclean. I kid you not. *shudder*.

[QUOTE=ThePrivAsst;3490365]New to the area providers or BP ladies are bombarded with men from all walks. After a few smelly balls, slovenly dates, and rip offs, I know I came up with a figure in my head of "how much do I need to charge to get through this without complaint?" Their increases are likely a direct result of some nasty mongers fucking it up for everybody.

I had several gents that would visit for less than the advertised rate. They were great examples of hobbiests that I could trust to show up clean, no dip in donation, conduct themselves responsibly, and a consistently pleasant experience. If eating the same cereal sounds appealing, consider a business relationship with a provider you can afford and enjoy.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately when it comes to ripoffs, smelly private areas, dirty environments, etc. , it really goes both ways. Some of us have great hygiene, professional, knows how to treat people and so on and this goes for both men and women. However, many of these girls you see on BP have not been in the biz long enough but have really raunchy and smelly coochies. For example, I started seeing this provider who didn't post much and she wanted a certain amount for 20-30 minutes. I was fine with it and didn't try to haggle over prices with her- it was reasonable. Then it appeared someone or others got to her head and she started wanting almost double her price! Now let me say that double the price might not be so bad as long as the overall service was commensurate with what she was requesting but when you can't clean your coochie but yet, you want a mint for your little services, it just isn't going to happen.

When people don't provide a decent ambiance, smoke-free and clean environment, no dope boys, keep appt times (well as close as it reasonably can be), great hygiene, and being lucid, then they do not deserve 200 for their services. Personally, I would reserve higher amounts for higher caliber providers and by and large, BP just isn't it. Very few and far between great providers exist on BP. This is not to say P411, SD, etc. don't have its slugs but I'm just saying that a lot of the comments I see regarding BP girls (many aren't good) do not command exorbitant prices. I've seen some girls who provide the shittiest environments and then try to convince me that guys are paying them 200-300 plus to hang out. I say to myself, "they're giving YOU that kind of money with the level of service you offer!" PLEASE! It would be nice to find that UTR girl that is the complete package but that can be quite the challenge sometimes.

This is a great example of someone who wants a mint for her services but has one of the shitiest environments:

http://jacksonville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/tgif-out-spec-call-lila-904-420-2596/12938412

[QUOTE=PlayTiem;3496190]I've had some conversations with providers about this, and they've shown me some of the attempts at guys being cheap as fuck. If you don't want to pay a girl's rate, then just don't? The market will adjust accordingly, right?

Worse yet, there was one guy who literally left a shit stain on a girl's sheets, he was so unclean. I kid you not. *shudder*.[/QUOTE]But I read almost daily of guys getting ripped, shorted and catfished on BP. I think Wacko69 completely missed the point of decency in dealing, respectful quality client AND respectful quality provider who gain a positive business relationship by continuing to see each other and both benefit from it. Having conversed with her (TPA) and reading her comment to understand it not, just waiting for another chance to drop a snarky remark I thought she was relating more about who it was than the max $ she could extract, hence the discount. FYI if you carry yourself as she does, stay consistent in services and reliability as she does and stay off BP you may attract the upscale $$$ clients and less cheap skates. IMO.

[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;3495925]As far as A2; I'm not looking for the "hooker" type and disagree with his general assessment. Sure there are BP girls but many simply are trying this out, will not go through, do it once and bail out, or looking for one fwb type arrangement. To me, a far cry from a hooker. That's the site's charm.[/QUOTE]Seems to me you have a lot of contempt for guys working BP and other sites; "far cry from a hooker" "I'm not looking for the 'hooker' type. " If you give her money she might not look like Devine Brown but she has the same job and you are a john just like Hugh Grant was. Do whatever you need to do to delude yourself that you're somehow "better" than those guys but I'm telling you and will continue to tell you that you're a john.

Sorry if you think this is harsh, but some of you sugar guys come off as self righteous high hatters to me and that sorta irritates me.

One other thing, they turned into hookers the moment they put their profile on the site. The rest is just how much. This doesn't mean I don't like hookers, I fucking love hookers, just give it a fucking name is all and that name is prostitution.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3499041]Seems to me you have a lot of contempt for guys working BP and other sites; "far cry from a hooker" "I'm not looking for the 'hooker' type. " If you give her money she might not look like Devine Brown but she has the same job and you are a john just like Hugh Grant was. Do whatever you need to do to delude yourself that you're somehow "better" than those guys but I'm telling you and will continue to tell you that you're a john.

Sorry if you think this is harsh, but some of you sugar guys come off as self righteous high hatters to me and that sorta irritates me.

One other thing, they turned into hookers the moment they put their profile on the site. The rest is just how much. This doesn't mean I don't like hookers, I fucking love hookers, just give it a fucking name is all and that name is prostitution.[/QUOTE]Met an attractive girl at the bar one night. Struck up a conversation and I asked her would you sleep with me for 1 Million $, she enthusiastically says yes. I say how about $100,000 again she says yes. I say how about $100? She scowls and says what kind of girl do you think I am? To which I say, we've already established what you are, we are just haggling over the price! (its a joke).

Am I totally insane for daty on one of these BP girls? Are there any that might be worth the risk? I really don't want to try and explain to my kids why they have herpes after I kiss them goodnight.