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[QUOTE=WhatsUp169;2613337]LOL. I contacted her once out of curiosity just to see what she was offering. She doesn't do much of anything. So unless you just lite pleasuring yourself while you rub her stumps she's probably not a good choice. And she's ugly too. I know, I'm rude. LOL.[/QUOTE]Best post ever.
[QUOTE=LandoGriffin;2613085][URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-girl-in-town-carla-monae-60-specials-fetishlve/8934245[/URL]
I've seen plenty of the regular girls around here (probably enough to be a senior member) but I haven't had any experiences that differed from what others have posted so I didn't think it was worth it to post about them. But I didn't see anything about this one.
Easy to get a hold of. The number is a google voice account but don't let that scare you off. She's in a nice hotel where people probably wouldn't think to even look for something like this going on. Very easy to feel safe.
It's the girl in the picture (the tattoos match). She happily greeted me at the door and made me feel comfortable. She's not skinny but I wouldn't call her a BBW. Great rack, fresh shave and fresh kitty (no weird smells). She's GFE without having to even ask, which I thought was nice. Everything is covered which isn't the best experience but the way I look at it is, if she's taking precautions then you're less likely to get a gift you didn't ask for.
After some CBJ she let me take control. Multiple positions. Plenty of fun and definitely worth your time. I went for the hh but should have gone for more. No clock watching or anything to make you feel uneasy, and I really watch for that stuff. I didn't ask for a do's and don'ts list, I figured I would keep things simple because I didn't know anything about her. Zero signs of drugs or alcohol, not even cigs. She said she's not from around here and I didn't think to ask how long she'll be around. With all the bad reviews about the local regulars, the mere fact that she didn't cash and dash moves her ahead of most of the girls around here.
Be nice to this one, maybe she'll stick around for a while. And don't be afraid to tip her. If she gets some good cash doing this then she might stay in the nice hotel and you won't have to go to some heroin den like the shit holes off 104 to have some fun.[/QUOTE]I call her no answer. Then she texted me. I ask her if she had time. She said yes in 30 min. I said sure. Drove all the way to hamburg texted her again when I was pulling in and guess what no reply. WTF. I hang around about another 30-45 min nothing. What a waste.
[QUOTE=Tahoe2011;2613802]I call her no answer. Then she texted me. I ask her if she had time. She said yes in 30 min. I said sure. Drove all the way to hamburg texted her again when I was pulling in and guess what no reply. WTF. I hang around about another 30-45 min nothing. What a waste.[/QUOTE]I have a sneaky suspicion that Carla reviewed herself there. Talking about how we should tip her and shit. What guy really says we should go out of our way to tip also always very suspicious of the glowing reviews of a brand new girl by a brand new guy with their first ever review. Sorry I'll pass until seen by a senior member or someone with a few more reviews than a 2 pager on a new girl.
Man what's the deal with all these girls on BP that are email only. Scam if I've ever heard one.
[QUOTE=LandoGriffin;2613085][URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-girl-in-town-carla-monae-60-specials-fetishlve/8934245[/URL]
I've seen plenty of the regular girls around here (probably enough to be a senior member) but I haven't had any experiences that differed from what others have posted so I didn't think it was worth it to post about them. But I didn't see anything about this one.
Easy to get a hold of. The number is a google voice account but don't let that scare you off. She's in a nice hotel where people probably wouldn't think to even look for something like this going on. Very easy to feel safe.
It's the girl in the picture (the tattoos match). She happily greeted me at the door and made me feel comfortable. She's not skinny but I wouldn't call her a BBW. Great rack, fresh shave and fresh kitty (no weird smells). She's GFE without having to even ask, which I thought was nice. Everything is covered which isn't the best experience but the way I look at it is, if she's taking precautions then you're less likely to get a gift you didn't ask for.
After some CBJ she let me take control. Multiple positions. Plenty of fun and definitely worth your time. I went for the hh but should have gone for more. No clock watching or anything to make you feel uneasy, and I really watch for that stuff. I didn't ask for a do's and don'ts list, I figured I would keep things simple because I didn't know anything about her. Zero signs of drugs or alcohol, not even cigs. She said she's not from around here and I didn't think to ask how long she'll be around. With all the bad reviews about the local regulars, the mere fact that she didn't cash and dash moves her ahead of most of the girls around here.
Be nice to this one, maybe she'll stick around for a while. And don't be afraid to tip her. If she gets some good cash doing this then she might stay in the nice hotel and you won't have to go to some heroin den like the shit holes off 104 to have some fun.[/QUOTE]No BBBJ then I am out, covered full service is a must but if the oral is covered I'll just stay home and wrap little cash in a sock. That way there is no driving, no drama, no money out of pocket, and better yet I can roll over and go to sleep satisfied instead of having to make the long drive back home after an unsatisfying session. If I want rubber I'll order a rubber doll which will probably come with a vibrating mouth that can do a hummer. :p Seriously do any local providers give a good hummer? I had one where the chick tried to hum the star spangled banner which was awesome, of course I didn't last very long but it was memorable.
[QUOTE=LandoGriffin;2613085][URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-girl-in-town-carla-monae-60-specials-fetishlve/8934245[/URL]
I've seen plenty of the regular girls around here (probably enough to be a senior member) but I haven't had any experiences that differed from what others have posted so I didn't think it was worth it to post about them. But I didn't see anything about this one.
Easy to get a hold of. The number is a google voice account but don't let that scare you off. She's in a nice hotel where people probably wouldn't think to even look for something like this going on. Very easy to feel safe.
It's the girl in the picture (the tattoos match). She happily greeted me at the door and made me feel comfortable. She's not skinny but I wouldn't call her a BBW. Great rack, fresh shave and fresh kitty (no weird smells). She's GFE without having to even ask, which I thought was nice. Everything is covered which isn't the best experience but the way I look at it is, if she's taking precautions then you're less likely to get a gift you didn't ask for.
After some CBJ she let me take control. Multiple positions. Plenty of fun and definitely worth your time. I went for the hh but should have gone for more. No clock watching or anything to make you feel uneasy, and I really watch for that stuff. I didn't ask for a do's and don'ts list, I figured I would keep things simple because I didn't know anything about her. Zero signs of drugs or alcohol, not even cigs. She said she's not from around here and I didn't think to ask how long she'll be around. With all the bad reviews about the local regulars, the mere fact that she didn't cash and dash moves her ahead of most of the girls around here.
Be nice to this one, maybe she'll stick around for a while. And don't be afraid to tip her. If she gets some good cash doing this then she might stay in the nice hotel and you won't have to go to some heroin den like the shit holes off 104 to have some fun.[/QUOTE]You say "tattoos match" but she not once had a tattoo showing and has already changed her number. I love when women pass off themselves as one of us to get good reviews. Poster also claimed to see enough to be a senior member but this is the one that finally got him to post. Yea I'm calling bullshit on you.
I read the reviews and made a appointment with Dallas. Easy set up. Decent hotel. Totally relaxed. Not a clock watcher. Beautiful body and personality. Conversation was light and plentiful. I highly recommend giving her a try in Lexington or in Corbin. She has a friend Daisy that I met briefly and she was not only sexy. But very nice as well. I look forward to meeting her.
Is she asking for pesos or some other currency? Surely to god that is not USD.
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real-big-butt-with-world-class-melt-in-my-mouth-skills-avail-for-travel/8942576[/URL]
It breaks down to 150 per hour but she doesn't have a one hour block listed.
[QUOTE=OsuSucks;2613824]Man what's the deal with all these girls on BP that are email only. Scam if I've ever heard one.[/QUOTE]They are ads that link to robots that try to sell you a cam site membership. Just tested this one and the 4th response was [b]"well before we meet I do $25 cam previews, it verifies that you arnt a cop and serious, in return you get a full preview of what to expect in person oK? Works on phones too, and I take it off the meet! K?"[/b]
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/no-rush-sexy-playmate-tight-grip-unforgettable/8942737[/URL]
I didn't try the email I tried the number imprinted on the picture. Not the first I have seen with the same color and font for the number on a picture.
They got the pics from this place.
http://www.interracialpornpic.com/milf-w h o r e -2.shtml
Take out spaces
What a class act!!
Vivian Grace gets better each time I see her. She is a wonderful provider. Probably the best I have seen in a long while. Easy set up. Nice discreet incall location. I scheduled for an hour this past Friday & ohh what an hour it was!! LFK BBBJ muliple positions. We were both tired at the end of hour but a great kinda tired. No clock watching just a great experience. She even let me take a shower before we got things going & offered to let me take another after we had played each other out. If you haven't seen Vivan you are truly missing out!
How did that happen?
Just curious.
I tried to schedule a repeat with Tory after finally getting to meet her. I contacted her 4 hours prior and scheduled the time. As the meeting time approached I called her and got no response. She texted me a few minutes later and said she was running half an hour behind. A half an hour turned into an hour and I again tried to contact her. She texted back and had some lame excuse and said it would be another hour at the most. So, I waited until the hour was about up and tried to call. No response, she texts me about 15 minutes later and says she is on her way. So, I agree and wait another half hour, I text her and again nothing. I wait another 15 minutes and get no response, so I just send another text telling her to please cancel. I didn't get a response, no apology or anything. So to recap, I scheduled the appointment 4 hours in advance and get the run around for 3 hours after the set time before cancelling. Absolutely ridiculous! She is a fun time, just not worth the effort I have personally had to put in.
After the Tory fiasco I contacted Aubrey, who I have also unsuccessfully tried to see in the past. This time she texted back promptly and we scheduled a time. As the time approached she called and said she was running a little behind. Cool, a short time later she texted and said she was on her way, traffic was slow and she would see me shortly. She showed up and I was surprised, she is a pretty, petite little brunette with a really cool personality. She has 4 rules: no BB, no Greek, no DFK, no CIM. Started off with a really nice BBBJ then to doggy and mish. She is pretty responsive and got into the session with some dirty talk! I had a fun time and will repeat at some point.
[QUOTE=CashBubba;2613984]Is she asking for pesos or some other currency? Surely to god that is not USD.
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real-big-butt-with-world-class-melt-in-my-mouth-skills-avail-for-travel/8942576[/URL]
It breaks down to 150 per hour but she doesn't have a one hour block listed.[/QUOTE]Like we need to import more cows!
[QUOTE=WhatsUp169;2613337]LOL. I contacted her once out of curiosity just to see what she was offering. She doesn't do much of anything. So unless you just lite pleasuring yourself while you rub her stumps she's probably not a good choice. And she's ugly too. I know, I'm rude. LOL.[/QUOTE]Well at least be assured that she's not a Cash an Dash.
I had the same problem last night but left after waiting 20 min. I did get a text later saying her phone was dead, she was sick, and some other excuses. I love how they can put every excuse possible in a text and how they will make it to you Next time.
[QUOTE=Knucky;2614118]I tried to schedule a repeat with Tory after finally getting to meet her. I contacted her 4 hours prior and scheduled the time. As the meeting time approached I called her and got no response. She texted me a few minutes later and said she was running half an hour behind. A half an hour turned into an hour and I again tried to contact her. She texted back and had some lame excuse and said it would be another hour at the most. So, I waited until the hour was about up and tried to call. No response, she texts me about 15 minutes later and says she is on her way. So, I agree and wait another half hour, I text her and again nothing. I wait another 15 minutes and get no response, so I just send another text telling her to please cancel. I didn't get a response, no apology or anything. So to recap, I scheduled the appointment 4 hours in advance and get the run around for 3 hours after the set time before cancelling. Absolutely ridiculous! She is a fun time, just not worth the effort I have personally had to put in.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lexington-police-department-human-trafficking/8949878[/URL]
The good reviews never last. Pick any girl. Her reviews always go down the shitter.
[QUOTE=Lexiboy;2614301]Like we need to import more cows![/QUOTE]We need more cow bell.
Until she posted the new pic that shows her face straight on I did not recognize her as the cold dead fish Julie. Bad acne, shallow BJs, lies there like a cold dead fish.
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-real-julie-100-new-real-pictures-dont-worry-about-the-rest-come-see-the-best/8524589[/URL]
[QUOTE=Cashd;2614512][URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lexington-police-department-human-trafficking/8949878[/URL][/QUOTE]The ad doesn't even give rates. Besides the posters age is well above my target range and probably no CIM. Although the pic is most likely real. I think I'll pass.
Well I'm sure many others noticed this-.
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lexington-police-department-human-trafficking/7991120[/URL]
I'm not really sure what to make of it. If it is legit I find it odd that they bought ads for Bowling Green, Owensboro, etc. Also. Obviously, Lex PD has no jurisdiction beyond their county. I guess it could be some other group (church or whatever) trying a new ploy to scare everyone- which I am sure it may. It'll be curious to see what, if anything, happens.
[QUOTE=Knucky;2614118]I tried to schedule a repeat with Tory after finally getting to meet her. I contacted her 4 hours prior and scheduled the time. As the meeting time approached I called her and got no response. She texted me a few minutes later and said she was running half an hour behind. A half an hour turned into an hour and I again tried to contact her. She texted back and had some lame excuse and said it would be another hour at the most. So, I waited until the hour was about up and tried to call. No response, she texts me about 15 minutes later and says she is on her way. So, I agree and wait another half hour, I text her and again nothing. I wait another 15 minutes and get no response, so I just send another text telling her to please cancel. I didn't get a response, no apology or anything. So to recap, I scheduled the appointment 4 hours in advance and get the run around for 3 hours after the set time before cancelling. Absolutely ridiculous! She is a fun time, just not worth the effort I have personally had to put in.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ktucky79;2614502]I had the same problem last night but left after waiting 20 min. I did get a text later saying her phone was dead, she was sick, and some other excuses. I love how they can put every excuse possible in a text and how they will make it to you Next time.[/QUOTE]I doubt that there are many girls that can keep it together all the time. They are going to have down times and it's just a fact. This girl though, when you can connect, is always on her game. She is 100% fun and pleasant to be with. Also, within the last couple of weeks another Tory has popped up on BP so it may be prudent to post a link or a pic of which one being praised or dissed. I've attached a pic of the one I am talking about.
[QUOTE=Lexiboy;2614301]Like we need to import more cows![/QUOTE]Eat Mor Chikin.
[QUOTE=CashBubba;2614573]Until she posted the new pic that shows her face straight on I did not recognize her as the cold dead fish Julie. Bad acne, shallow BJs, lies there like a cold dead fish.
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-real-julie-100-new-real-pictures-dont-worry-about-the-rest-come-see-the-best/8524589[/URL][/QUOTE]I concur, I thought she might have gone away. She is definitely and cold dead fish.
[QUOTE=CashBubba;2613984]Is she asking for pesos or some other currency? Surely to god that is not USD.
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/real-big-butt-with-world-class-melt-in-my-mouth-skills-avail-for-travel/8942576[/URL]
It breaks down to 150 per hour but she doesn't have a one hour block listed.[/QUOTE]I can certainly see how one would not be able to extricate them selves from that azz for a day or more. So rates are more necessity than anything.
Had dreams about the following girls:
Katie. Really cute. Tight little bod, pictures real, fun to talk to, good energy, no drugs or pimps. Didn't like having her parts messed with (WTF? Said DATY "felt too good" after about 10 secs and "please stop!" Jumped and jerked whenever I touched her. BBBJ, covered for mish, and she started bleeding! Said it was not her time of month, but that she just has a problem with that. Thinks her hot bod is good enough and that she does not need to provide a service. Would not repeat.
Julie. Big time active needle marks on her arms. Condom wrappers littering floor. BBBJ for about 10 secs then started reaching for cover. Had to stop her twice and make her keep going. BS delays when setting up date, said she was showering but wasn't fresh. Should have left early but little man made the call. Definitely no repeat.
Jessica. Long tall Sally. Cute little butt, probably 23-25, some marks on arms but don't look recent and may not even be needles. Great attitude, pictures are real and recent. Fun time and very cooperative. BBBJ and every position you can think of. Not a clock watcher. Will definitely repeat.
No links since they seem to disappear. Pics of ads attached.
[QUOTE=Lexiboy;2614644]Well I'm sure many others noticed this-.
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lexington-police-department-human-trafficking/7991120[/URL]
I'm not really sure what to make of it. If it is legit I find it odd that they bought ads for Bowling Green, Owensboro, etc. Also. Obviously, Lex PD has no jurisdiction beyond their county. I guess it could be some other group (church or whatever) trying a new ploy to scare everyone- which I am sure it may. It'll be curious to see what, if anything, happens.[/QUOTE]Also it is a scanned image not a computer generated high quality image. Someone is trying to scare people beyond what they already should know and beware of.
[QUOTE=CashBubba;2614998]Also it is a scanned image not a computer generated high quality image. Someone is trying to scare people beyond what they already should know and beware of.[/QUOTE]I don't think uncle LEO would be putting up a beware of us sign. Doubt johnny taxpayer would like his money going to a sleeze outfit like BP.
[QUOTE=Tallguy3854;2614891]Had dreams about the following girls:
Katie. Really cute. Tight little bod, pictures real, fun to talk to, good energy, no drugs or pimps. Didn't like having her parts messed with (WTF? Said DATY "felt too good" after about 10 secs and "please stop!" Jumped and jerked whenever I touched her. BBBJ, covered for mish, and she started bleeding! Said it was not her time of month, but that she just has a problem with that. Thinks her hot bod is good enough and that she does not need to provide a service. Would not repeat.
Julie. Big time active needle marks on her arms. Condom wrappers littering floor. BBBJ for about 10 secs then started reaching for cover. Had to stop her twice and make her keep going. BS delays when setting up date, said she was showering but wasn't fresh. Should have left early but little man made the call. Definitely no repeat.
Jessica. Long tall Sally. Cute little butt, probably 23-25, some marks on arms but don't look recent and may not even be needles. Great attitude, pictures are real and recent. Fun time and very cooperative. BBBJ and every position you can think of. Not a clock watcher. Will definitely repeat.
No links since they seem to disappear. Pics of ads attached.[/QUOTE]Was going to try Jessica until she told me she will only do BBBJ for " a few seconds" because her jaw is out of line. Fuck that if you can't suck long enough to get me hard then you're a pass for me.
[QUOTE=CashBubba;2612651]Who in their right mind would send money from a PayPal account linked to their bank account that will maintain a record of the transaction for 7-10 years?
[URL]http://lexington.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/candy-c/8793399[/URL][/QUOTE]I remember that chick running ads on CL yeeeeears ago! Can't believe she is still at it. Guess there is a following for what she "provides". Good for her.
Side note: I would like to have the guys info that are seeing her. I could make a good living selling them random shit apparently. They'll send money on anything!
[QUOTE=OsuSucks;2615186]Was going to try Jessica until she told me she will only do BBBJ for " a few seconds" because her jaw is out of line. Fuck that if you can't suck long enough to get me hard then you're a pass for me.[/QUOTE]I've seen her several times and she never shorted on the BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Sysexdata;2615407]I've seen her several times and she never shorted on the BBBJ.[/QUOTE]I too had her. Hold every drop.
She back for a limited time. HA HA. Don't waste your time. It is a bad trip. If you do be sure to get trip insurance. You will be lucky if she shows. If she does you might as well be humping your pillow.
Lexington. [URL]backpage.com[/URL]/ FemaleEscorts / today-only-specials-paris-back-for-a-limited-time-only-see-me-while-you-can-606-975-6499/8174952.
[QUOTE=JMark229;2615839]She back for a limited time. HA HA. Don't waste your time. It is a bad trip. If you do be sure to get trip insurance. You will be lucky if she shows. If she does you might as well be humping your pillow.
Lexington. [URL]backpage.com[/URL]/ FemaleEscorts / today-only-specials-paris-back-for-a-limited-time-only-see-me-while-you-can-606-975-6499/8174952.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. Totally has the golden pussy syndrome. Will rush you and disappointment every time. As limited a menu as there is and she is terribly unreliable. IF she made just a slight bit of effort she could do so well. Oh well. What can you do?
Decided what the hell- lets give her another try. The needle marks were well documented but others were saying they looked old. Anyway, when I finally get a hold of her she says she is only doing car dates. OK- I don't normally do that but decided to give it a go. When I get there she says it's OK to use her apartment. Her (place wasn't too bad- not a lot of furniture but it was ok- we were going to do our thing on the couch. She rushes through a 3 min BJ (3 minutes tops) and starts to climb on. I stopped her and put on protection. She insisted "Most guys like it better without the raincoat. " I told her I don't do that. And I don't. Not with a stranger anyway. About 2 more minutes into things there's a knock on the door. After a brief discussion she says we got to finish in the car. We headed that way and I saw her hand was excessively red- I don't think the needle marks are all that old afterall. I just lost all interest when we got in the light saw the hand and thought about the BB offer. I paid her and said adios. Fast forward a day or two- I notice I am having some kind of breakout on my back and side. After a quick visit to the doc I find out I was attacked by bedbugs! Her's was the only place I had visited very recently and I have never experienced those before so it had to be her place where I got them. Luckily, I didn't manage to bring them home- thank god. Anyway, Jessica's number is 859-474-5521 and I would suggest avoiding her. Here is a screen grab of her ad- it is her in the pics, maybe a little thinner and paler now.
[QUOTE=BawlsDeep;2615075]I don't think uncle LEO would be putting up a beware of us sign. Doubt johnny taxpayer would like his money going to a sleaze outfit like BP.[/QUOTE]Either the first ad got flagged or they reposted on Monday.
I flagged the ads I saw outside Lexington as "overpost" . Which they were.
Also, I heard a rumour that ladies ads are free at this time.
[QUOTE=Whathesaid;2616308]Either the first ad got flagged or they reposted on Monday.
I flagged the ads I saw outside Lexington as "overpost" . Which they were.
Also, I heard a rumor that ladies ads are free at this time.[/QUOTE]Ads on backpage are now free, it's in response to a legal battle with the county sheriff for Cook County, IL. They convinced major credit card providers from paying for ads on backpage, so they replied by making ads free.
And that "ad" that looks like its from the Lexington Police, it looks like something they would do with their laziness. Although a lack of a phone number or any contact info seems suspect.
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[QUOTE=Ktucky79;2614502]I had the same problem last night but left after waiting 20 min. I did get a text later saying her phone was dead, she was sick, and some other excuses. I love how they can put every excuse possible in a text and how they will make it to you Next time.[/QUOTE]Granted, I have had only one visit. Which was a lot of fun. She was a breath of fresh air. Excellent skills and will definitely repeat.
She was a little slow on her responses. It sounds like she has a real job and a family to look after. I have not yet set up a return visit. So I am hoping not to have the same experience as you in a repeat appointment. We will see.
[QUOTE=Lexiboy;2616116]Decided what the hell- lets give her another try. The needle marks were well documented but others were saying they looked old. Anyway, when I finally get a hold of her she says she is only doing car dates. OK- I don't normally do that but decided to give it a go. When I get there she says it's OK to use her apartment. Her (place wasn't too bad- not a lot of furniture but it was ok- we were going to do our thing on the couch. She rushes through a 3 min BJ (3 minutes tops) and starts to climb on. I stopped her and put on protection. She insisted "Most guys like it better without the raincoat. " I told her I don't do that. And I don't. Not with a stranger anyway. About 2 more minutes into things there's a knock on the door. After a brief discussion she says we got to finish in the car. We headed that way and I saw her hand was excessively red- I don't think the needle marks are all that old afterall. I just lost all interest when we got in the light saw the hand and thought about the BB offer. I paid her and said adios. Fast forward a day or two- I notice I am having some kind of breakout on my back and side. After a quick visit to the doc I find out I was attacked by bedbugs! Her's was the only place I had visited very recently and I have never experienced those before so it had to be her place where I got them. Luckily, I didn't manage to bring them home- thank god. Anyway, Jessica's number is 859-474-5521 and I would suggest avoiding her. Here is a screen grab of her ad- it is her in the pics, maybe a little thinner and paler now.[/QUOTE]Hold your breath. The egg larvae can still hatch out at a later time. The clothes you wore may have them just waiting to invest your place. Hope they don't.