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This one's a bit unusual. Says she's looking for a "live-in" arrangement. Reiterated as much when I messaged her. I suppose she means moving in with someone, because why would she want someone who would be willing to move in with her? Either way, that's a new one I hadn't seen before. If anyone else manages to get her to budge from that, or if you recognize her photos and she's fake or something, good job.
[QUOTE=NormGerd;5656719]I just used a pre-paid card to re-join. Paid cash $67 (discounted SA pmembership) + $7 for the fee. Some of the cards had an $8 fee. I could not see any difference in the cards. Same company, so I went with the cheaper one.
I DID NOT register the card at all. After verifying the balance had come through, I put the card info into SA. Entered an address that is not mine. Got a warning before the final click that "some prepaid cards won't work, use a major credit card". Pressed "Pay" and it went through immediately. Now in the FAQ, SA says "prepaid cards work". I think they gave that warning to keep you on the hook for the monthly recurring billing.
Norm![/QUOTE]Can you share the company or brand of the card that you bought please.
Asked for 7 bills. That's a no from me dog! (Even though she is 100% my type...looks like a debutante. Love wasp-y ladies.)
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5af8e458-3acb-4442-896f-104f3ca271bc[/URL]
Norm!
[QUOTE=NormGerd;5656719]I just used a pre-paid card to re-join. Paid cash $67 (discounted SA pmembership) + $7 for the fee. Some of the cards had an $8 fee. I could not see any difference in the cards. Same company, so I went with the cheaper one.
I DID NOT register the card at all. After verifying the balance had come through, I put the card info into SA. Entered an address that is not mine. Got a warning before the final click that "some prepaid cards won't work, use a major credit card". Pressed "Pay" and it went through immediately. Now in the FAQ, SA says "prepaid cards work". I think they gave that warning to keep you on the hook for the monthly recurring billing.
Norm![/QUOTE]Sadly the prepaid debit visa with the $1. 50 fee doesn't work. Had to go back into the supermarket and used it to buy the vanilla visa with the $6. 95 fee. Vanilla visa with the higher cost worked.
Pain in my ass for being cheap and ended IP costing more. Wish I had waited for the 25% or 33% discounts.
[QUOTE=NormGerd;5656693]Girl with face blocked. Asked to see her private photos. She is stunning. She asked to see my photo. Gave me her social media. Sent her a photo. Immediately blocked! Wow that one stung. Oh well. I guess she is waiting on Brad Pitt to write her. LOL.
Norm![/QUOTE]Maybe you don't fit her fashion style? Girls are weird. I've been blocked by the same girl I later banged after setting up a new profile. Same private pic. Could also be that she found a SD and deactivated her profile between when you sent her your pic; or she could've been a scammer who is really a 400 lb dude sitting in his basement and another monger reported the account after you sent your pic (assuming you don't have a burner to check if that's the case).
[QUOTE=NormGerd;5656953]Asked for 7 bills. That's a no from me dog! Even though she is 100% my type...looks like a debutante. Love waspy ladies.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5af8e458-3acb-4442-896f-104f3ca271bc[/URL]
Norm![/QUOTE]Never got to the discussion of allowance. She wanted more pics from me, and I decided not to pursue. She's a tall drink of water though.
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5656969]Maybe you don't fit her fashion style? Girls are weird. I've been blocked by the same girl I later banged after setting up a new profile. Same private pic. Could also be that she found a SD and deactivated her profile between when you sent her your pic; or she could've been a scammer who is really a 400 lb dude sitting in his basement and another monger reported the account after you sent your pic (assuming you don't have a burner to check if that's the case).[/QUOTE]Her account is still live. She literally blocked me less than one minute after I sent the photo. Not a fashion issue, I am dressed well. Just personal taste for sure, but she was so freaking hot. Also on the young-ish side at 24. But damn I wanted to bang her after seeing her face! LOL.
Sent the same photo to a couple of other women (one on IG, not SA). Both responded positively. One additional lady hasn't responded, but not blocked. Could be a normal delay. Not a 400lb dude, her social media was legit, its actually open, and found her Facebook page too. We have a mutual friend.
Norm!
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5656972]Never got to the discussion of allowance. She wanted more pics from me, and I decided not to pursue. She's a tall drink of water though.[/QUOTE]Basically after seeing two photos of me her next question was allowance. I was shocked, but she claims an Ivy League education, so her self worth is probably quite high. I wanted to reply that I could get a model quality escort twice for that price, but just let it be with a polite no. No need to stir anything up.
Norm!
[QUOTE=Itfcd;5656858][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c480e90-2c76-4d8e-b939-d83bd12f3ae6[/URL]
This one's a bit unusual. Says she's looking for a "live-in" arrangement. Reiterated as much when I messaged her. I suppose she means moving in with someone, because why would she want someone who would be willing to move in with her? Either way, that's a new one I hadn't seen before. If anyone else manages to get her to budge from that, or if you recognize her photos and she's fake or something, good job.[/QUOTE]Something tells me that she's the kind of girl that moves in, but never moves out. Ha.
[QUOTE=NormGerd;5656980]Her account is still live. She literally blocked me less than one minute after I sent the photo. Not a fashion issue, I am dressed well. Just personal taste for sure, but she was so freaking hot. Also on the young-ish side at 24. But damn I wanted to bang her after seeing her face! LOL.
Sent the same photo to a couple of other women (one on IG, not SA). Both responded positively. One additional lady hasn't responded, but not blocked. Could be a normal delay. Not a 400lb dude, her social media was legit, its actually open, and found her Facebook page too. We have a mutual friend.
Norm![/QUOTE]Any chance you're willing to share her profile for the rest of us mongers? Also, if you share a mutual Facebook friend, possibility she recognized you and got scared you would do the same?
So she returns my texts all apologetic and super sweet. Tells me she was available last night and that she would DEFINITELY make sure she made it up to me when we met in person. I let my little head get the best of me, despite the OP and the no show from Monday. We meet up, have drinks, and she goes a bit crazy ordering off the menu. Whatever. Night is getting late and she asks me to make us hotel reservations. Too late to make a reservation that I can cancel and too late to book a Dayuse room.
Decide that I can book when I get to the place if we get that far, So I select a mid / low grade establishment and tell her to follow me. She asks for the allowance up front and I gently let her know that I don't do that. Things got nasty from there. She made a pretty big scene at the restaurant calling me all sorts of names.
Don't bother with this one. She is completely damaged in the head.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/743bdb95-2fd7-4187-ac1d-cef81766eebc[/URL]
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5656407]She was a no show. Got blocked on SA and stopped responding to my text messages. Wouldn't be surprised if some white knight told her about this site. She's from the same state that gave us the island bois, so not terribly surprised. Just glad I didn't book a hotel in advance. Had a drink at the bar while I waited and then left after she didn't return my text message.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5658119]So she returns my texts all apologetic and super sweet. Tells me she was available last night and that she would DEFINITELY make sure she made it up to me when we met in person. I let my little head get the best of me, despite the OP and the no show from Monday. We meet up, have drinks, and she goes a bit crazy ordering off the menu. Whatever. Night is getting late and she asks me to make us hotel reservations. Too late to make a reservation that I can cancel and too late to book a Dayuse room.
Decide that I can book when I get to the place if we get that far, So I select a mid / low grade establishment and tell her to follow me. She asks for the allowance up front and I gently let her know that I don't do that. Things got nasty from there. She made a pretty big scene at the restaurant calling me all sorts of names.
Don't bother with this one. She is completely damaged in the head.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/743bdb95-2fd7-4187-ac1d-cef81766eebc[/URL][/QUOTE]I would never do anything because I have too much to lose. This lady is playing a dangerous game. She's going to mess with the wrong person one day.
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5657587]Any chance you're willing to share her profile for the rest of us mongers? Also, if you share a mutual Facebook friend, possibility she recognized you and got scared you would do the same?[/QUOTE]She has blocked me, so I can't get to her page. I don't think she recognized me, because there was no way she would know how to find my profile, and mine is private. She gave me her name (it the same across social media) so I was easily able to find her. I discovered last night that she went back and blocked me on the site where I sent the picture. That is a fake account I use for SD dating.
Norm!
Tsunami. I hate to drive so she can't have it anymore, but super fun.
X3.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/23f79f97-9311-4193-948d-6797d7ae84d8[/URL]
ACH.
X3 - drives and wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sexier in person. No mic skillls, but seeks to please (cost of living in PA, I prob could have have done x2).
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5bff834d-dedb-466f-8b36-257cb4bc20aa[/URL]
Avaaaaril3 yyyy (the 3 is an e).
X3 in PA, but in MD often. Way to much work.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dd3abfb8-2bd7-4e37-9a53-98a39cd2aa32[/URL]
Clark. Married lesbian in an open relationship (not giving any details. Shoot your shot).
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1741f4a1-7703-4623-a18f-0d0162341f1b[/URL]
== Having lots of fun on WYP ==.
Cheat Code. Edit your profile to exaplin what it costs to message them. Initially all my offers were over 150. I now have 65 current offers of $10. And almost 20 asking me to suggest the price. Four dates so far 3 smashed, the fourth will be this weekend. Two in particular that I'm simply messaging are likely to go into my rotation.
[QUOTE=Itfcd;5656858][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2c480e90-2c76-4d8e-b939-d83bd12f3ae6[/URL]
This one's a bit unusual. Says she's looking for a "live-in" arrangement. Reiterated as much when I messaged her. I suppose she means moving in with someone, because why would she want someone who would be willing to move in with her? Either way, that's a new one I hadn't seen before. If anyone else manages to get her to budge from that, or if you recognize her photos and she's fake or something, good job.[/QUOTE]I decided to have a little fun with this one and play along. She wants 500 a week, her own room, and to also be fed. I countered with 250, room for her stuff but she should be sleeping with me every night and also make herself available to me whenever I wanted and had to be on BC. She said no to BC and she won't take any less than 500.
(Can't provide a link since she's blocked me).
I'm not sure about this one. Messaged late last night asking if I wanted to get together. I had an itch and enjoy a bigger girl now and then so I said sure. Moved to text and immediately agreed to $$, asked if I wanted to stay overnight. Was really explicit over text, pics etc. And asked me to come over ASAP. Gave me an address that's an apartment building on Moravia in a somewhat suspect part of NE Baltimore. Just got the sense that something was fishy, so I told her I forgot about an early meeting I had this morning, hit up PH and went to bed LOL.
So she could be legit but I'd just say tread a bit carefully.
This is a first. I've run into lots of profiles that want to add I Instagram followers or want you to go to the strip club to tip them. But first time I met a lady who wanted me to follow her twitch stream. Would add her link but got blocked when I made a comment about wanting to meet in real life and not the metaverse.
I was chatting with her and everything seemed ok, her ask was 350.
Didn't want to pursue with your experiences with her and I don't like giving that much.
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5658119]So she returns my texts all apologetic and super sweet. Tells me she was available last night and that she would DEFINITELY make sure she made it up to me when we met in person. I let my little head get the best of me, despite the OP and the no show from Monday. We meet up, have drinks, and she goes a bit crazy ordering off the menu. Whatever. Night is getting late and she asks me to make us hotel reservations. Too late to make a reservation that I can cancel and too late to book a Dayuse room.
Decide that I can book when I get to the place if we get that far, So I select a mid / low grade establishment and tell her to follow me. She asks for the allowance up front and I gently let her know that I don't do that. Things got nasty from there. She made a pretty big scene at the restaurant calling me all sorts of names.
Don't bother with this one. She is completely damaged in the head.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/743bdb95-2fd7-4187-ac1d-cef81766eebc[/URL][/QUOTE]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/00123274-49b5-4018-b48a-fd7827d85074[/URL]
It's worth stating this one is very new. New account, and new to this. I was as gentle as I could be about expectations and figures, but she still seemed distressed by putting a number on sex with her. "I'm not trying to get paid for sex. That's not what these are" she said. Well, don't be so sure, little girl. She's cute, so maybe I should have just agreed to her ask (she wanted 5 bills) and broken her in. Guess someone else will have to do it, or she'll just quit if she's really that uncomfortable with the reality of these sites.
[QUOTE=Itfcd;5659510][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/00123274-49b5-4018-b48a-fd7827d85074[/URL]
It's worth stating this one is very new. New account, and new to this. I was as gentle as I could be about expectations and figures, but she still seemed distressed by putting a number on sex with her. "I'm not trying to get paid for sex. That's not what these are" she said. Well, don't be so sure, little girl. She's cute, so maybe I should have just agreed to her ask (she wanted 5 bills) and broken her in. Guess someone else will have to do it, or she'll just quit if she's really that uncomfortable with the reality of these sites.[/QUOTE]You are approaching this all wrong when you say "don't be so sure little girl". I know you didn't say that to her. But more than half of these ladies are under the illusion they are not sex workers. The professional will quote you a number for a straight sex meetup. The amateurs need the illusion that there is something more here, I. E. Just a relationship "without strings". My advice is to play into that. I have seen a lot of mongers be very successful with this approach. There used to be a guy who posted on the LA sugar baby section of this site who had great advice for making it seem like they weren't selling sex. I don't remember his name, it was a few years ago. It really worked well.
Norm!
P.S. Don't pay 500. That just encourages more price gouging when she tells her friends. I just got an email from a SB who is into BDSM and she wants 600 to spend 5 hours together. Given the huge amount of time, I am considering it...haven't said yes...plus, well, she's kinky! lol
[QUOTE=JonFisher;5656879]Can you share the company or brand of the card that you bought please.[/QUOTE]Sorry just saw this. It was a VanillaGo card. 6. 95 cost in addition to the loading amount.
Norm!
N.B. You can use Google Pay if you use the app. That is guaranteed to work, you just can't use it with a discount code. So if you have a separate mongering gmail account, you can just buy a Google Play giftcard at a local store (they are sold in a lot of places, including target) load the google play card into your gmail account and pay through the app. I'm not sure, but I think there is no fee for a google play giftcard.
Came across this one. Looks TGTBT. Anyone know anything?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a98e8ea6-f1f6-49ee-9f81-673946834fa4[/URL]#.
Norm!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ee78c2fe-aeec-4848-80ba-1dbda30b599f[/URL]
Looks like she's been around a little bit, but I hadn't seen her in the Baltimore search set before; maybe she just reactivated. Can't host. Quick to text, and on birth control, but she sounded like she preferred protection rather than not. I asked what she wanted PPM to go BBFS regardless of her concerns, and she said 5. I countered with 4, and she stopped responding.
Down in the Richmond thread (which many consider the "master" sb / sd thread) there has been a discussion of people getting kicked off for discussing the PPM amount (or even saying PPM) in their messages on-site.
Does anyone here know anyone, or been banned themselves for this? A hot sb just directly asked me to give a PPM number. I want her, but am afraid to get banned this early into my premium! LOL.
Norm!
[QUOTE=NormGerd;5660117]Down in the Richmond thread (which many consider the "master" sb / sd thread) there has been a discussion of people getting kicked off for discussing the PPM amount (or even saying PPM) in their messages on-site.
Does anyone here know anyone, or been banned themselves for this? A hot sb just directly asked me to give a PPM number. I want her, but am afraid to get banned this early into my premium! LOL.
Norm![/QUOTE]When they ask I always say that I'd rather not discuss specifics on the site, and would prefer to discuss over text. I did do that in the past and was never banned but it seems SA has become stricter about that recently.
[QUOTE=Biggyv;5659232](Can't provide a link since she's blocked me).
I'm not sure about this one. Messaged late last night asking if I wanted to get together. I had an itch and enjoy a bigger girl now and then so I said sure. Moved to text and immediately agreed to $$, asked if I wanted to stay overnight. Was really explicit over text, pics etc. And asked me to come over ASAP. Gave me an address that's an apartment building on Moravia in a somewhat suspect part of NE Baltimore. Just got the sense that something was fishy, so I told her I forgot about an early meeting I had this morning, hit up PH and went to bed LOL.
So she could be legit but I'd just say tread a bit carefully.[/QUOTE]Quick update: she is now prettysea [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c988c690-80d5-4619-a85a-5c03bca5a291[/URL].
Yeah I'm thinking scam.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9891da4f-4465-448d-9e7e-35a581513755[/URL]
This idiot with an OH phone # tried to pass off photos from an 8-year-old Facebook group as real. Sorry, chump, Google Lens caught you out.
And no, I wouldn't remotely think of discussing numbers within the site messages. Frankly, most girls are smart enough not to do that (the one who wasn't was Maddie Eve, a known escort in the DC area who you can search for on the usual sites and here). As soon as I get any kind of good response, I immediately tell them to text me instead. Have conducted every bit of business that way.
[QUOTE=MilesNoDavis;5658674]Tsunami. I hate to drive so she can't have it anymore, but super fun.
X3.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/23f79f97-9311-4193-948d-6797d7ae84d8[/URL][/QUOTE]She can spell "tsunami". That's a good sign.
[QUOTE=NormGerd;5660117]Down in the Richmond thread (which many consider the "master" sb / sd thread) there has been a discussion of people getting kicked off for discussing the PPM amount (or even saying PPM) in their messages on-site.
Does anyone here know anyone, or been banned themselves for this? A hot sb just directly asked me to give a PPM number. I want her, but am afraid to get banned this early into my premium! LOL.
Norm![/QUOTE]Getting banned is a *****. No discussion of cash until you move them off. Not worth getting blacklisted. They rebranded as seeking, got rid of the friends with benefits tag, and now the deleted profiles are "attractive members" not "sugar babies" for a reason. It's wink wink nod nod. But not worth it since getting a new profile after getting banned is a PITA.
[QUOTE=NormGerd;5647086]Came across this one:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/12e80fc7-750f-4af6-92f0-77680d5442f6[/URL]
Anyone get anywhere yet? I suppose too many photos (none of which trace anywhere) to be fake, but wow just my type. Before I dive in wondering if anyone has reached out? Headline makes me think she has GPS.
Norm![/QUOTE]Finally got ahold of this one. Her headline mentions the 1%. Outrageous asking price. You know my thoughts on ladies asking for more than $$ Didn't ask for my picture. Clearly a pro if she doesn't care what I look like.
Norm!
[QUOTE=Itfcd;5659510][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/00123274-49b5-4018-b48a-fd7827d85074[/URL]
It's worth stating this one is very new. New account, and new to this. I was as gentle as I could be about expectations and figures, but she still seemed distressed by putting a number on sex with her. "I'm not trying to get paid for sex. That's not what these are" she said. Well, don't be so sure, little girl. She's cute, so maybe I should have just agreed to her ask (she wanted 5 bills) and broken her in. Guess someone else will have to do it, or she'll just quit if she's really that uncomfortable with the reality of these sites.[/QUOTE]You only get a limited glimpse of her teeth in one picture. For me, that's generally a disqualifier based on my hunch that she's hiding substance abuse-caused teeth decay.
[QUOTE=Max#01;5661492]You only get a limited glimpse of her teeth in one picture. For me, that's generally a disqualifier based on my hunch that she's hiding substance abuse-caused teeth decay.[/QUOTE]Severe substance abuse in a 19-yo with no other overt signs of wear and tear? Maybe.
Low self-esteem in a 19-yo making them unwilling to smile with teeth? Just a tiny bit more likely.
But, you do you.
This one wrote to me and gave me her number immediately. She looked familiar. I think I met her years ago on a different SD website. Now she is on seeking. I found her old email from the other site where she tried to scam me for 863 dollars to pay her BGE bill. (Which was already paid because she sent enough info for me to track it!
I will text and see what the outrageous demand will be. Her profile says she is elite. IIRC, she used to dance at Millstream. When I posted abouther years ago, someone said she was married. Her old profile said single. Now Seeking says married, so at least she fesses up to that now.
I will let you all know what her demand is.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/15f42888-abf3-444b-b205-62ff2032b08a[/URL]
Norm!
Angela.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/182a74a8-8056-49a3-ad89-e6af5c3b04cb[/URL]
Chatted in the site, then moved to Kik (can be a red flag) few days later asks if I'm looking for something online. I tell her I prefer in person and she says she doesn't do that.
Oh well, could've told me sooner or posted it on your profile.
Moved to text immediately. Texted a very sexy pic to start. Then small talk, followed be a request to sell pics and videos. Now she blocked me or is gone.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ae700c7e-dca8-42d4-babd-827a79d7acc7[/URL]
Norm!
[QUOTE=Mongerian;5662576]Angela.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/182a74a8-8056-49a3-ad89-e6af5c3b04cb[/URL]
Chatted in the site, then moved to Kik (can be a red flag) few days later asks if I'm looking for something online. I tell her I prefer in person and she says she doesn't do that.
Oh well, could've told me sooner or posted it on your profile.[/QUOTE]Get yourself a good clean escort and stop wasting time and money with these Sugar Babies. I had one for over a year and it cost me a lot more than a good clean dependable escort. I just let my SB go recently and its all good.
[QUOTE=Whistles;5590277]Anybody else getting the blackmail scam a lot all of a sudden? The jerk gets you to text then starts a stream of prewritten texts claiming they're going to post about you to facebook or whatever. One even said my (unrecognizable) photo was going to be posted around town. I ignore / block and nothing happens. They have my fake phone number and a fuzzy picture, whatever.
A lot of the profiles disappear fast but PhotogenicBae was one:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/27b9f002-7717-481c-ba6a-e14a22affdf6[/URL][/QUOTE]I just got one. My only public pic has a black line over my eyes. And I use a google Number so I should be okay. But yeah just got my first one today. If this hacker was told they would tell you some of your info. Didn’t even include my username or anything lol
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5660375]Getting banned is a *****. No discussion of cash until you move them off. Not worth getting blacklisted. They rebranded as seeking, got rid of the friends with benefits tag, and now the deleted profiles are "attractive members" not "sugar babies" for a reason. It's wink wink nod nod. But not worth it since getting a new profile after getting banned is a PITA.[/QUOTE]It is a huge pain in the butt. Clear cookies, etc. All new photos, new email, etc.
[QUOTE=Bish37;5663353]Get yourself a good clean escort and stop wasting time and money with these Sugar Babies. I had one for over a year and it cost me a lot more than a good clean dependable escort. I just let my SB go recently and its all good.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with escorts but there are certain things an escort won't do that an SB will. One of my SBs let me take her anal virginity and dump inside her ass bareback. Another one I've had worked as a Pilates instructor and would bring other students or instructors she met at her gym into our FC sessions willingly. She was legit bisexual and got off watching me getting sucked off while she ate out our thirds from behind (sorry, not sharing her info, she's getting serious with one of those girls and I still get invited from time to time to their FC sessions when they're drunk). Most in my current rotation let me bareback raw and dump inside them. There is also something to be said about a young lady who genuinely enjoys your company.
Sometimes an escort is better for what you might want or need, but there are some real advantages to having a SB since I've never had an escort let me do any of the things that I mentioned above.
[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5663918]Nothing wrong with escorts but there are certain things an escort won't do that an SB will. One of my SBs let me take her anal virginity and dump inside her ass bareback. Another one I've had worked as a Pilates instructor and would bring other students or instructors she met at her gym into our FC sessions willingly. She was legit bisexual and got off watching me getting sucked off while she ate out our thirds from behind (sorry, not sharing her info, she's getting serious with one of those girls and I still get invited from time to time to their FC sessions when they're drunk). Most in my current rotation let me bareback raw and dump inside them. There is also something to be said about a young lady who genuinely enjoys your company.
Sometimes an escort is better for what you might want or need, but there are some real advantages to having a SB since I've never had an escort let me do any of the things that I mentioned above.[/QUOTE]Escorts will do BBFS and allow you to dump inside their mouths, pussies or arses bareback. Everyone has their price and it depends on what you are willing to pay. I have both escorts and SBs in my rotation that allow above- mentioned activities, their prices are about the same for equivalent activities with maybe SBs $ less. But on their other hand, I find SBs less reliable, often something going on in their lives or some drama. Escorts tend to have less drama in their lives and they have always kept their appointments with me.