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[QUOTE=OCanon;7608255]Great 1st review! Good stuff. It sounds like you may value service over looks which is good. Wendy is / was a favorite. Unfortunately, I tend to like them 20's so she starting to age out but she's still great. I don't know if I've seen Jessie or Lily. Do you know what spa they are at?[/QUOTE]Lily is at Haven and Wendy's bestie. You probably seen her by another name. They have another Viet friend that is into S&M.
[QUOTE=MustTapDat;7605389]I wasn't able to see Kai again before she moved on.
If anyone knows where she went to or became legit, any info would be appreciated. PM please.[/QUOTE]She's still there, just changed name to joy.
[QUOTE=TnaStylez;7609025]Lily is at Haven and Wendy's bestie. You probably seen her by another name. They have another Viet friend that is into S&M.[/QUOTE]OK yea I've seen Lily a few times. Great body. OK, face. I've had a couple great encounters but the last time was a bit mechanical so haven't been back. I'd still recommend and repeat but just kind of fell out of my heavy rotation.
[QUOTE=TnaStylez;7609009]Thanks for your rankings. I definitely want to give Wendy and Lily a try now. I would rank chemistry or "pillow talk" over actual massage or release depending on the mood.[/QUOTE]Wendy is more stripper vibe. Lily (dulcie) is more abg cutesy vibe. Lily is prettier of the two. I would assume both are into their low 30s. (been around for at least 5 or 6 years and they def werent 20 when they started) Both are decent options. I have seen both. My main gripe is that they are both very much about the money and transactional vs those providers who almost make you forget its a spa session. Both will do whatever you want to pay for. Just my opinion I would rank them more like A or even B tier.
[QUOTE=McNutties;7610433]Wendy is more stripper vibe. Lily (dulcie) is more abg cutesy vibe. Lily is prettier of the two. I would assume both are into their low 30s. (been around for at least 5 or 6 years and they def werent 20 when they started) Both are decent options. I have seen both. My main gripe is that they are both very much about the money and transactional vs those providers who almost make you forget its a spa session. Both will do whatever you want to pay for. Just my opinion I would rank them more like A or even B tier.[/QUOTE]Agree with this. Bring the money and you'll mostly get what you want. Personally I'd put Lily's looks one or two tiers above Wendy. A few years ago when I first met her I thought she was the prettiest of the viet providers in oc. Both still good occasionally but over time though I ended up enjoying the whole experience more than just the looks so moved on to other providers that put that whole facade together better.
[QUOTE=Lightlit;7605441]Been in the hobby for a little more than two years now. Thought I'd come on here and share my rankings for all the girls I've seen whether directly through a spa, PD, Tryst, etc. My rankings might differ from the usual but essentially I rank girls based on the following:
1. Massage skills post / pre flip. (This may change depending on the girls skill) For example if a girl is noticeably better at providing an actual massage I might be leaner when it comes to the flip and the opposite is true. So if her massage is mediocre, I expect the flip to make up the session.
2. Teasing post / pre flip. Good providers know how to build up the session and that all begins when you're face down and should continue until the end.
3. Technique. Following the previous points, I don't want no half assed session. Each provider should have that thing that makes them stand out amongst all the options. Whether this comes in the form of actual massage skills or whatever it may be there needs to be something that makes me want to come back because no one else does it.
4. Time. I mean I think this is self-explanatory but if I book 30,45, or an hour I expect the time to be respected. I do like to give a five minute grace period but beyond that anytime my time is cut short it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If I have an appointment at 11 am for 30 min then at the very least I should be walking out the room at 11:25. If a provider is late my complete time should still be respected so at the very least I should be walking out at 11:35. If I'm late then I understand my time being cut short.
5. Attitude. Is our session filled with conversation or is it silent. How open is the provider to having a conversation. Obviously this varies and sometimes doesn't play too much a factor but if I can feel a negative vibe then it influences my decision. What I mean by that is what kind of attitude she is giving. If I ask a question is she dismissive, feeling entitled etc. Or is she enthusiastic to converse. If the session does not move towards a chatty one is there still enthusiasm in the service--smiles, eye contact, dirty talk etc.
6. Appearance. How physically I am attracted to them. Are they well groomed, smell nice etc.
7. Communication. Is the provider easy to contact or book with. Do they provide all needed info so as to make sure there are no surprises once I walk into the room.
I take all this factors into account whenever I see a new provider. My ranking is obviously subjective to my on my own experience so YMMV. I am also aware that there will be agreements and disagreements, again YMMV. This is just my list but thought I'd share it to give a bit of insight. Hope it helps.
S+.
Wendy (Asian) (PD / Tryst / Spa).
S.
Megan (Asian) (PD / Spa) / Lily (Asian) (Tryst / Spa) / Jessie (Asian) (PD) / Harper (Asian) (PD / Tryst).
A+.
Scarlett (White) (PD).
A.
Coco (Asian) (Spa / IG) / Yuyu (Asian) (IG) / April (Asian) (Spa).
B+.
Hailey (White) (PD / Spa) / Quinn (Asian) (IG) / Apple (Asian) (Spa) / Marissa (White) (PD / Spa) / Krystal (Asian) (Spa) / Milan (Asian) (Spa).
B.
Kat (Asian) (IG / Spa) / Suki (Asian) (PD) / Ava (Asian) (Spa) / Rose (Latina) (IG) / Bella (Latina) (Spa) / Savanna (White) (PD) / Melissa (Latina) (PD / Tryst) / France (Latina) (PD) / Skyler (Asian) (Spa) / Crya (Asian) (IG) / Ruby (Asian) (IG) / Journey (PD / IG).
C+.
Julie (Latina) (Spa) / Gem (Latina) (PD / IG / Spa) Lunakatz (Asian) (PD / Tryst) / Caress (Black) (IG / Spa) / Hazel (White) (IG).
C.
Lexirose (Latina) (PD) / Babykat (Latina) (PD) / Gabby (Latina) (Tryst / Spa) / Hayden (White) (Spa) / Nala (Asian) (IG / Spa) / Yailin (Latina) (PD / Spa) / Sugar (Asian) (IG / Spa) / Alena (White) (PD) / Ellie (Latina) (Tryst).
D+.
Kris (Asian) (Spa).
D.
Stephanie (Latina) (Spa) / Alice (Asian) (BP) / Justine (Latina) (PD) / Gia (White) (PD).
F.
Kate (White) (PD).[/QUOTE]Great list and extensive. Any comment on extras (if any) for these women?
Has anyone tried out any of the latest from 17th?
Interested in Red, Christina and Cindy but have not seen any reports.
Haven posted a Caroline with a big o booty on insta. Anyone know who it may be or details? The change faces I know from the actual people.
[QUOTE=JDog1234;7610538]Great list and extensive. Any comment on extras (if any) for these women?[/QUOTE]YMMV for a lot of these girls. I think rapport goes a long way. Some of them actively mention they provide FS on their ads though (PD, Tryst) so I'd check those out for a sure thing. If you'd like DM me and I can send you the links for them.
I ended up at 17th SA spa. Thought an ATF came out of retirement, Nicole. Turns out that was not the case. Very average looking latina with little pot belly and almost no english came in. Did a quick up-down look and knew it wasn't going to work and walked out. Just not nuru level. Front desk tried to get me to see someone else. Mia / Bia is boring. Christina is decent looking young latina but wasn't in mood to be upselled to $$ FS.
So left to Pure IG: onlyrelaxation down the street. I tried to book Jazzy then but she was booked up. There was a Nicole working "NEW 25 yo pretty asian. Slim fit busty. Sweet and fun" Not my ATF and timing didn't work out but I'll try to book next time. If any of you guys see her before me, LMK!
[QUOTE=KdocBar;7611779]Has anyone tried out any of the latest from 17th?
Interested in Red, Christina and Cindy but have not seen any reports.[/QUOTE]I know Christina is a girl who used to go by Miley. I heard she "retired" some time ago guess she's back in the game. Decent reviews about her then don't know how she is now though.
[QUOTE=Lightlit;7616308]I know Christina is a girl who used to go by Miley. I heard she "retired" some time ago guess she's back in the game. Decent reviews about her then don't know how she is now though.[/QUOTE]Can confirm Christina is Miley from back a while. She advertises this on her ig. Maybe slightly more weight than before? But honestly still pretty tight body, ass is as firm as ever. She's extremely talkative, can talk for the whole session. Menu seems to have shrunk, at least for me, from before she took a break though so heads up.
[QUOTE=Gooner3;7570094]Where is storm / avon now?[/QUOTE]Santa Ana on 17th st I forget the cross street.
Anyone see any of the new faces at ROM? There's a new girl named miami?
Anybody catch Blu advertising some girls as open minded on their insta page? To me it means FS but curious if anyone had any info on that. Since it seems only Blu's insta was adverting it because Rom's didn't have that same label for the same girls.