[QUOTE=IllegalRabbit;4471376]I was planning on visiting the area in a few weeks, can anyone tell me the name of the place so I can avoid it?[/QUOTE]Its the building next to 7 /11 on shermer.
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[QUOTE=IllegalRabbit;4471376]I was planning on visiting the area in a few weeks, can anyone tell me the name of the place so I can avoid it?[/QUOTE]Its the building next to 7 /11 on shermer.
Sorry to hear of the recent bust in Northbrook. It's a shame to see the government wasting resources in this way. These ladies aren't hurting anyone. In the overwhelming majority of cases, they willingly provide a valuable, consensual service, which is perfectly legal in many well-functioning societies around the world, and which is perennial to humanity.
Additionally, in many cases when these busts occur, the authorities just end up taking away the only source of decent income that these women have, and reinforcing the perception many of them rightly have, which is that the authorities are not their allies. An undesirable consequence of this is that in the rare cases where the women are actually coerced, they do not feel comfortable going to the authorities for help. The solution? Bring this industry out of the darkness and into the light of the legal free market.
Maybe in the future, America will trend toward a more rational and liberal view about these issues. But as it is, we're living in a society that retains some archaic Puritan taboos, and you have to be a little careful here. As someone who has spent a lot of my life in Europe, I find the American attitude toward a lot of this stuff amusingly bizarre, and detrimental.
I sometimes wonder, do the cops involved with these "vice" departments even really believe in what they're doing? I suspect a lot of them just fall into it, and see it as a stimulating way to make a living (there's no doubt that it's fun to go undercover and feel like a spy on a righteous mission. It's definitely more fun than say, tax law, for most people). But I doubt they can give anything beyond a superficial rationale for what they're doing. Undoubtedly, many of them have something of a "white knight" attitude where they think they're saving women from a miserable and debauched life. But of course in reality, as you guys know, the majority of these women voluntarily choose this lifestyle, and some of them positively enjoy it as a way to make a living. I mean, if you're an uneducated woman and you have a liberal view of sexuality, it probably beats flipping burgers or working in retail for minimum wage, right?
Think of how the attitude toward marijuana has changed in a matter of what, a few decades? It was unironically considered by many to be the Devil's lettuce. A way for dark and evil forces to enter or influence a person (reefer madness!). However today, even to most conservative-minded people, that way of thinking seems so absurd and outmoded, and local governments are eagerly fighting for the spoils of marijuana revenue! Now it's rapidly becoming just another mundane part of regular life in America, no different than our society's relationship with alcohol.
Think of all the "vice" cops of a past age who fought against marijuana. What was the point? It's increasingly clear now that there was none. It was just a taboo enforced at the point of a gun, a massive waste of resources, and not a hill worth fighting for. Those in authority today in America should reflect on that case, and whether there are any other hills (cough prostitution cough) not worth fighting for.
If we take a more rational view of these issues, then those groups who have historically been adversaries can actually be allies, and then we can successfully combat those who we all acknowledge are the true enemy, namely those people who coerce and abuse women. I know I'm largely preaching to the choir with this, but maybe there are some lurkers here for which this will be a fresh argument to their ears.
Is this new Allure in and outcall just the girl in the picture on the horse?
[QUOTE=BigWaffle;4496693]Sorry to hear of the recent bust in Northbrook. It's a shame to see the government wasting resources in this way. These ladies aren't hurting anyone. In the overwhelming majority of cases, they willingly provide a valuable, consensual service, which is perfectly legal in many well-functioning societies around the world, and which is perennial to humanity.
Additionally, in many cases when these busts occur, the authorities just end up taking away the only source of decent income that these women have, and reinforcing the perception many of them rightly have, which is that the authorities are not their allies. An undesirable consequence of this is that in the rare cases where the women are actually coerced, they do not feel comfortable going to the authorities for help. The solution? Bring this industry out of the darkness and into the light of the legal free market.
Maybe in the future, America will trend toward a more rational and liberal view about these issues. But as it is, we're living in a society that retains some archaic Puritan taboos, and you have to be a little careful here. As someone who has spent a lot of my life in Europe, I find the American attitude toward a lot of this stuff amusingly bizarre, and detrimental.
I sometimes wonder, do the cops involved with these "vice" departments even really believe in what they're doing? I suspect a lot of them just fall into it, and see it as a stimulating way to make a living (there's no doubt that it's fun to go undercover and feel like a spy on a righteous mission. It's definitely more fun than say, tax law, for most people). But I doubt they can give anything beyond a superficial rationale for what they're doing. Undoubtedly, many of them have something of a "white knight" attitude where they think they're saving women from a miserable and debauched life. But of course in reality, as you guys know, the majority of these women voluntarily choose this lifestyle, and some of them positively enjoy it as a way to make a living. I mean, if you're an uneducated woman and you have a liberal view of sexuality, it probably beats flipping burgers or working in retail for minimum wage, right?
Think of how the attitude toward marijuana has changed in a matter of what, a few decades? It was unironically considered by many to be the Devil's lettuce. A way for dark and evil forces to enter or influence a person (reefer madness!). However today, even to most conservative-minded people, that way of thinking seems so absurd and outmoded, and local governments are eagerly fighting for the spoils of marijuana revenue! Now it's rapidly becoming just another mundane part of regular life in America, no different than our society's relationship with alcohol.
Think of all the "vice" cops of a past age who fought against marijuana. What was the point? It's increasingly clear now that there was none. It was just a taboo enforced at the point of a gun, a massive waste of resources, and not a hill worth fighting for. Those in authority today in America should reflect on that case, and whether there are any other hills (cough prostitution cough) not worth fighting for.
If we take a more rational view of these issues, then those groups who have historically been adversaries can actually be allies, and then we can successfully combat those who we all acknowledge are the true enemy, namely those people who coerce and abuse women. I know I'm largely preaching to the choir with this, but maybe there are some lurkers here for which this will be a fresh argument to their ears.[/QUOTE]Once in NWI there was a massage parlor that was offering "extras". After an investigation of said establishment that lasted for 3 months it was finally raided and shut down. A three month investigation? That my friends is a vast misallocation of resources.
[QUOTE=ManTooth;4498638]Once in NWI there was a massage parlor that was offering "extras". After an investigation of said establishment that lasted for 3 months it was finally raided and shut down. A three month investigation? That my friends is a vast misallocation of resources.[/QUOTE]The investigators and their friends HAD to have their fun before shutting it down.
[QUOTE=ManTooth;4498638]Once in NWI there was a massage parlor that was offering "extras". After an investigation of said establishment that lasted for 3 months it was finally raided and shut down. A three month investigation? That my friends is a vast misallocation of resources.[/QUOTE]As horny as they must have been, it's good they weren't around any elementary schools.
[QUOTE=DomCorazon;4497096]Is this new Allure in and outcall just the girl in the picture on the horse?[/QUOTE]If you google image search the horse photo, it traces back to a Russian social media profile of a blond 51 year old who goes by Bozhena. I believe that's also the name of the older blond who works in the lower basement on Shermer. I haven't seen her, but it seems to add up. Looks like she also works out of an office in Schaumburg, on Higgins.
For what it's worth, the NB raid was all due to a "neighbor complaint." Somebody on Shermer either didn't like their competitor, or LEO "befriended" a business in a neighboring office to enable the bust. Apparently, the therapist in question was friendly with the other body workers in the complex, so the later seems more likely.
Has anyone been to Maria's? I hear that she has a new 22 year massage therapist.
[QUOTE=Sully1234;4512376]Has anyone been to Maria's? I hear that she has a new 22 year massage therapist.[/QUOTE]Don't waste your time and money. It's a filthy rip off. RTFF.
[QUOTE=Walker333;4513802]Don't waste your time and money. It's a filthy rip off. RTFF.[/QUOTE]Maria's was once run by a Euro manager named Margaret, who passed from a heart attack a few years ago. Her friend Vicky ran, or still runs, CT. It's possible she eventually took control of Maria's as well. If so, she’s running both places into the ground. Its a shame, since she’s nothing but kind and accommodating over the phone.
What happened to Alina, who was always an old reliable at both locations? I was going to Maria's over 15 years ago. It was a no-frills operation even then, albeit with nice talent.
[QUOTE=DrManhattan;4513867]Maria's was once run by a Euro manager named Margaret, who passed from a heart attack a few years ago. Her friend Vicky ran, or still runs, CT. It's possible she eventually took control of Maria's as well. If so, shes running both places into the ground. Its a shame, since shes nothing but kind and accommodating over the phone.
What happened to Alina, who was always an old reliable at both locations? I was going to Maria's over 15 years ago. It was a no-frills operation even then, albeit with nice talent.[/QUOTE]I wonder if Julia is still working their. I had a lot of fun with her before. She had a real nice personality. Their was an extensive menu after a few visits.
Looking for Alisija. She worked at 1290 in NB. Mature, tall short haired brunette. If anyone knows where she went please pm me. Thank you.
Anything to report on Heavenly on Waukegan in Morton Grove? I've had a very good therapeutic massage there from an attractive therapist and wonder if more is available. I didn't press the issue in my session. Pm me if you prefer to stay UTR. Thanks, ZZ.
[QUOTE=ConfuciusMan;4513964]I wonder if Julia is still working their. I had a lot of fun with her before. She had a real nice personality. Their was an extensive menu after a few visits.[/QUOTE]Julia hasn't been there in about a year. Last I was there is was Olga and Maria (I think). Anna was there but haven't heard about her in awhile.
I have a friend who knows a guy that was in an bad accident that left him suffering chronic stiffness in his back. This guy was told that any physical therapy that would help his condition would be covered. This guy also suffers. As do most of us. From chronic stiffness in his front. Being the resourceful guy that this guy is, he would like to find a therapist that can take care of both problems in the same visit. The therapist has to be licensed. Obviously, nobody is going to reimburse charges from"happy endings massage parlor" around the corner. PM me recommendations and I will pass them along!