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[QUOTE=Dante669;4079035]I'm talking about atleast 80% seem to have a man and most of the time that man is not supportive or kind at all to these girls. They use and abuse them with no sympathy. We don't personally see it happening most of the time. But it still exists.[/QUOTE]While we're making up statistics, I have heard that 68% of fairies are blue.

Some girls, no doubt, are being coerced / trafficked. The question is how many and what percentage of total are being trafficked. And what would that percentage be if they didn't have to worry about going to jail for being in the game and it wasn't basically run exclusively by thugs and pimps.

These are the questions the FOSTA people never bothered getting into. They just heard one horrifying story of a young girl being trafficked and overreacted. The good news is, there's been a big societal push to legalize sex work, and I think it may take a while to catch on but I think at the end of the day it'll be like marijuana and it will be legalized.

That said, there's an entire movement to stop the sex trade called "End Demand. " Could you imagine. An entire network of people filled with people who want to "end the demand" for sex.

Can someone tell me one time in human history where "ending demand" has ever happened, especially for a biological imperative like sex?

So dumb.

[QUOTE=BenSpend;4066995][URL]https://arkansasescort.wixsite.com/kristin[/URL]

Says she's in town Jan. 2-6, O'Hare. Never saw her and still on the fence. Seems to be reviews on E. M. For what it's worth. Couldn't find much on USASG in Arkansas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HeadFirst;4079543]She told me she's a member here. So:

If you're real don't give up so easily. Come on up and we'll show you a good time. But some things aren't adding up for us. Just seems TGTBT.

If you're LE, shame on you. Still come on up and we'll show you some hot shot-spotter locations you can hang out in.

Either way it'll be a good time.[/QUOTE]Website down again (as was the case the last time she supposedly came to town). Last time I had reverse image searched one of the pics on her website and it popped up on some random site that hadn't been updated since the mid-2000's (which made sense to me since all the pics on her site seemed to have been taken with really low resolution cameras).

Not to mention her prices are way too low. Until I see an actual review I'm sticking with scam / fake.

It would be nice if they legalized the hobby, which would greatly reduce the number of underaged and or being forced into the game.

[QUOTE=JamesNoper;4079661]While we're making up statistics, I have heard that 68% of fairies are blue.

Some girls, no doubt, are being coerced / trafficked. The question is how many and what percentage of total are being trafficked. And what would that percentage be if they didn't have to worry about going to jail for being in the game and it wasn't basically run exclusively by thugs and pimps.

These are the questions the FOSTA people never bothered getting into. They just heard one horrifying story of a young girl being trafficked and overreacted. The good news is, there's been a big societal push to legalize sex work, and I think it may take a while to catch on but I think at the end of the day it'll be like marijuana and it will be legalized.

That said, there's an entire movement to stop the sex trade called "End Demand. " Could you imagine. An entire network of people filled with people who want to "end the demand" for sex.

Can someone tell me one time in human history where "ending demand" has ever happened, especially for a biological imperative like sex?

So dumb.[/QUOTE]

Trying to prove that someone doesn't have "control" or "free will" is not falsifiable. No matter how much the other person says they have free will and are making their own choices, you can always say that "they are just under the control of a pimp or drugs. " It cannot be proven false. You say that you "know" that 80% of them have pimps or men who are cruel to them but you offer no proof other than stereotypes and generalizations. I could say something like I "know" that 80% of drug users are minorities but just because "it feels" right to you, doesn't mean that it's right. Finally, if a woman is being trafficked than I am 100% in support of her being helped and the people who are doing it being arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. But my problem is the other 20%. You'd like to crackdown on 100% of sex work because of your said 80%. Your type never addresses what to do about the exceptions who are doing this willingly. Your made up numbers and your little "this person doesn't have freewill and is under the influence of drugs or a pimp or a bad society and cannot make their own decisions" is not falsifiable. Let me ask you, do you also support someone saying that "they were under the influence of drugs or stress" when the murder someone? Is that a valid excuse? With your type, it never is and you cannot even achieve consistency. Also, if being "under the influence of drugs or extreme circumstances" is an excuse for a prostitute doing what she does then how is it not a valid excuse for someone who might going to a sex worker? Should all charges be dropped in that case? Can you be, at all, consistent?

[QUOTE=JamesNoper;4079661]That said, there's an entire movement to stop the sex trade called "End Demand. " [/QUOTE]"End Demand" doesn't seek to end demand for sex, just for [I]paid[/I] sex.

It's the "Scandinavian Model": The hookers, poor innocent little things, are given counselling and treatment as needed, while the "evil, evil" johns get ever more serious punishment. See here: [URL]http://www.demandforum.net/tactics/[/URL] for a nice list.

Well, actually here's the list, but that site has links to more detailed information.

Auto Seizure.

Cameras.

Community Service.

John School.

Letters.

License Suspension.

Neighborhood Action.

Public Education.

Reverse Stings.

Shaming.

SOAP Orders.

Web Stings.

Got to love things like driver's license suspension and Auto Seizure. Yeah, that's real proportional against people who, in the [I]vast[/I] majority of cases, had nothing to do with human trafficking.

This shit will go on forever so lets just get it out of the way.

Amerika is, and always has bordered on being a theocracy. Many of the laws are based on christian "morality. " Commercial sex is no different than calling weed a schedule two narcotic.

Amnesty International says if you want to stop trafficking the first thing you need do is decriminalize the behavior. As long as sex work is criminal criminals will control it. I have spent A LOT of time in countries where it is not criminal and in my experience this is true.

[URL]https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/sex-workers-rights-are-human-rights/[/URL]

Legal sex work cuts down on rape. Feminazis don't like this because it cuts into their narrative that rape is a power crime and not sex.

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/how-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-2014-7[/URL]

And it looks like somebody is trying to get a conversation started about why it should come back.

[URL]https://turnto10.com/news/local/incoming-councilwoman-says-state-should-consider-decriminalizing-prostitution[/URL]

Nevada has had legal prostitution forever and the only trafficking you read about there is in Vegas where it's not legal.

Pre Fosta / Sesta people were saying "they won't pass that, they have to know it will result in sex workers getting killed. " Well of course they know and they don't give a shit. If you want to know why all these crimes remain on the books you might want to read up on privatized prisons. I also think that the aversion lots of people have to commercial sex is instinctual. Commercial sex allows people who might be good at making money but otherwise aren't your typical alpha types a crack at the pussy and if you look at the animal kingdom you will see case after case after case showing the beat down the members who are not considered alphas by the group suffer for wanting to satisfy the biological imperative of breeding.

A2.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4080345]This shit will go on forever so lets just get it out of the way.

Amerika is, and always has bordered on being a theocracy. Many of the laws are based on christian "morality. " Commercial sex is no different than calling weed a schedule two narcotic.

Amnesty International says if you want to stop trafficking the first thing you need do is decriminalize the behavior. As long as sex work is criminal criminals will control it. I have spent A LOT of time in countries where it is not criminal and in my experience this is true.

[URL]https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/08/sex-workers-rights-are-human-rights/[/URL]

Legal sex work cuts down on rape. Feminazis don't like this because it cuts into their narrative that rape is a power crime and not sex.

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/how-rhode-island-accidentally-legalized-prostitution-2014-7[/URL]

And it looks like somebody is trying to get a conversation started about why it should come back.

[URL]https://turnto10.com/news/local/incoming-councilwoman-says-state-should-consider-decriminalizing-prostitution[/URL]

Nevada has had legal prostitution forever and the only trafficking you read about there is in Vegas where it's not legal.

Pre Fosta / Sesta people were saying "they won't pass that, they have to know it will result in sex workers getting killed. " Well of course they know and they don't give a shit. If you want to know why all these crimes remain on the books you might want to read up on privatized prisons. I also think that the aversion lots of people have to commercial sex is instinctual. Commercial sex allows people who might be good at making money but otherwise aren't your typical alpha types a crack at the pussy and if you look at the animal kingdom you will see case after case after case showing the beat down the members who are not considered alphas by the group suffer for wanting to satisfy the biological imperative of breeding.

A2.[/QUOTE]This. Sums it up nicely. As a male who is not an "Alpha" and has had a hard life this says it all right here. I walk away knowing it's the truth.

Guys can anyone explain to me why you want to DATY on an escort, SW, stripper, or any other working lady. It just seems that its a minefield you don't want to walk across.

[QUOTE=Bishop69;4081936]Guys can anyone explain to me why you want to DATY on an escort, SW, stripper, or any other working lady. It just seems that its a minefield you don't want to walk across.[/QUOTE]The assumption is that the girls aren't doing bare back full service. Lacking that assurance, it is kind of a gross thought.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4080345] Commercial sex allows people who might be good at making money but otherwise aren't your typical alpha types a crack at the pussy and if you look at the animal kingdom you will see case after case after case showing the beat down the members who are not considered alphas by the group suffer for wanting to satisfy the biological imperative of breeding.

A2.[/QUOTE]I'm no expert, but in lower primates you'll sometimes see an alpha chimp or silverback gorilla get too big for his britches. The lower ranking males will then sometimes join forces and rip him to shreds. Likewise with humans, you'll notice that young, un-mated men are often tinder for revolution. Men can't be expected to invest in society if they're not getting something in return for it, and the thing they used to get was sex, albeit within the context of a more or less monogamous marriage. Civilization is only sustained with the cooperation and effort of the "beta" guys.

Time to level the post-sexual revolution playing field and legalize prostitution, for sake of everyone involved and to maintain some social stability (if only for a little while longer LOL).

Good day, fellows. I'm going to need minimum one room, or up to three rooms this weekend. Anyone down to split a room, keep costs down?

For tonight I am looking at downtown or near SW suburbs. For tomorrow I am open to North side or near North burbs.

PM me, known friends always preferred.

I have a couple of traveling monger friends in town for the next week or so. Anyone have any girls they can recommend? I've been out of the game for months, no time to find them new friends on such short time. They are open to pro or nonpro, nonpro preferred.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;4081956]The assumption is that the girls aren't doing bare back full service. Lacking that assurance, it is kind of a gross thought.[/QUOTE]Maybe but their bf / pimp / handler is probably dumping loads and with as many BBFS reports on this board I assume other mongers are as well. To the OP's original question I think some guys are looking for a more intimate GFE experience if you will. They want to do to the girl what they used to do with their wives years ago or they're in a situation where providers are their only female contacts.

Hi All,

Does anyone know or has worked with a good sexologist in Chicago downtown or north area? If you have any suggestions please let me know. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Chicago41;4070838]Did anyone else notice eccie is gone? They posted on their Twitter that they're shutting down.[/QUOTE]Eccie is back online.

[QUOTE=Jayp80;4082735]Maybe but their bf / pimp / handler is probably dumping loads and with as many BBFS reports on this board I assume other mongers are as well. To the OP's original question I think some guys are looking for a more intimate GFE experience if you will. They want to do to the girl what they used to do with their wives years ago or they're in a situation where providers are their only female contacts.[/QUOTE]I understand the connection angle and the intimacy issues but c'Mon. Common sense here, even if she swears that she's no doing BB services really can you trust her at her word she is after all engaged in a criminal activity (as are we). To me the risks outweigh any possible reward to that. I actually talked to a friend that was very proud that he went down on a SW and I qoute " its a way to get them to see you regularly and possibly make them exclusive " He also said she smelled clean so there was no worry I simply asked what diseases can you smell that she couldn't cover up with a hygiene wipe or a quick shower / hoe bath??

To me any lady involved in the commercial sex trade it becomes too high a risk factor, they may still be present with any woman but sex workers the risk is exponentially higher.

[QUOTE=MrCharmo;4082691]I have a couple of traveling monger friends in town for the next week or so. Anyone have any girls they can recommend? I've been out of the game for months, no time to find them new friends on such short time. They are open to pro or nonpro, nonpro preferred.[/QUOTE]If non-pro, consider JenWild, (look in this forum: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5814-McHenry-Crystal-Lake-[/URL](McHenry-County-Area).

Also, Grace is popular: [URL]https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/body-rubs/1146694[/URL].

If available, I had a good time with Asya: [URL]http://european.escortbook.com/[/URL].

I have not seen her, but she seems to be popular: [URL]https://twitter.com/therealivymarie?lang=en[/URL].

[QUOTE=Bishop69;4083598]I understand the connection angle and the intimacy issues but c'Mon. Common sense here, even if she swears that she's no doing BB services really can you trust her at her word she is after all engaged in a criminal activity (as are we). To me the risks outweigh any possible reward to that. I actually talked to a friend that was very proud that he went down on a SW and I qoute " its a way to get them to see you regularly and possibly make them exclusive " He also said she smelled clean so there was no worry I simply asked what diseases can you smell that she couldn't cover up with a hygiene wipe or a quick shower / hoe bath??

To me any lady involved in the commercial sex trade it becomes too high a risk factor, they may still be present with any woman but sex workers the risk is exponentially higher.[/QUOTE]It's a preference. It's a judgement call. You can nit pick every aspect of the hobby. A provider can be carrying a nasty in her mouth. Kinda funny your handle ends with 69. Sounds like you're more of a 96.

[QUOTE=Bishop69;4083598]To me any lady involved in the commercial sex trade it becomes too high a risk factor, they may still be present with any woman but sex workers the risk is exponentially higher.[/QUOTE]Perhaps this is not the hobby for you. I always find these kinda post funny, (on a monger forum,) for some reason.

[QUOTE=DomCorazon;4084141]It's a preference. It's a judgement call. You can nit pick every aspect of the hobby. A provider can be carrying a nasty in her mouth. Kinda funny your handle ends with 69. Sounds like you're more of a 96.[/QUOTE]Yep, it also works on the flip, you can get something from BBBJ, she'll have no symptoms. Sure you can go CBJ, but what fun is that? LOL. BTW, there is a Safe Sex thread on this forum.

[QUOTE=DomCorazon;4084141]It's a preference. It's a judgement call. You can nit pick every aspect of the hobby. A provider can be carrying a nasty in her mouth. Kinda funny your handle ends with 69. Sounds like you're more of a 96.[/QUOTE]It was just something that always amazed me, but like you said personal preference.

She's looking to meet some some nice guys. Friends or super seniors preferred. PM me.

[QUOTE=Bishop69;4081936]Guys can anyone explain to me why you want to DATY on an escort, SW, stripper, or any other working lady. It just seems that its a minefield you don't want to walk across.[/QUOTE]I have done DATY on 10 or more escosts and few times on some of them and never had a bad experience. They all tasted nice and sweet, once or twice there was a faint onion smell after the girl gets wet, probably from eating onions earlier. One time I could feel the pussy smell on my face for few hours after but it wasn't unpleasant and in fact it was nice. May be cause I am selective and try to see more upscale escorts or may be I just have been lucky.

You care to share

[QUOTE=MrCharmo;4086318]She's looking to meet some some nice guys. Friends or super seniors preferred. PM me.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=StanKost;4088864]I have done DATY on 10 or more escosts and few times on some of them and never had a bad experience. They all tasted nice and sweet, once or twice there was a faint onion smell after the girl gets wet, probably from eating onions earlier. One time I could feel the pussy smell on my face for few hours after but it wasn't unpleasant and in fact it was nice. May be cause I am selective and try to see more upscale escorts or may be I just have been lucky.[/QUOTE]I've done it with almost every escort I've been with and that's at least 50. Never had an STD, never encountered a bad smell or anything untoward or gross. Maybe because I don't fuck streetwalkers or crackwhores. I think most of the time escorts are safer in that regard than some person you pick up from a bar for a one-night-stand because the escort is much more likely to get tested regularly. Most of them know their business. There's some element of risk in everything we do here. Personally, I find anal sex disgusting, but I'm not going to come on here and bash people for it.

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Jenny if you make another fake account like this I'll edit the posts to say there are bed bugs in your place.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=ShopTarget;4089563]The good ones pay way more attention to hygiene than the average woman (including most of our gf / wives) because their business and health depends on it. I asked my long-term ATF how she stays so fresh and she douches with hydrogen peroxide and sits in a hydrogen peroxide bath after each appointment. Also, the risk of catching anything by doing oral on a healthy looking / smelling pussy is close to if not zero.[/QUOTE]A doctor posted on WebMd that in his 30 year career dealing with STDs, he had never seen a case of transfer of an STD from cunnilingus. He States the chances are like. 03%. Though with my luck, I would probably be that guy.

[QUOTE=SzForLife;4089686]A doctor posted on WebMd that in his 30 year career dealing with STDs, he had never seen a case of transfer of an STD from cunnilingus. He States the chances are like. 03%. Though with my luck, I would probably be that guy.[/QUOTE]Sorry to bust the fake news about oral sex being risk free. Please read this as not all STDs are obvious. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm[/URL].

Oral sex now may cause oral cancer later: [URL]https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/hpv-transmission-during-oral-sex-a-growing-cause-of-mouth-and-throat-cancer-201306046346[/URL].

[QUOTE=SzForLife;4089686]A doctor posted on WebMd that in his 30 year career dealing with STDs, he had never seen a case of transfer of an STD from cunnilingus. He States the chances are like. 03%. Though with my luck, I would probably be that guy.[/QUOTE]I hear ya. I know of a provider wasn't in the business long but supposedly she got one from a guy through BBBJ.

I remember was listening to stern some guy was Talking about his fantastic weekend and admitted to getting one through BBBJ.

So it does happen but I hate covers for BJ's.

[QUOTE=SzForLife;4089686]A doctor posted on WebMd that in his 30 year career dealing with STDs, he had never seen a case of transfer of an STD from cunnilingus. He States the chances are like. 03%. Though with my luck, I would probably be that guy.[/QUOTE]It's very easy to get gonorrhea or chlamidiya through BBBJ, if woman has it in throat and taking it deep.

We can talk about rates and percentages all we want, but there is a reality as to how something like herpes is transmitted. If skin that has herpes activated on it (and sometimes you can't see it) rubs with skin that does not have herpes on it then the skin that does not have herpes on it is going to get herpes. Period. It's not 25% of the time. Or 50% of the time. It's 99% of the time. We can talk about all the BBBJs that we have had without receiving herpes, but if these claims are true then it's only because you have not had contact with skin that has herpes on it. Sure, there is a chance that all the women you have seen did not have herpes on their mouth, or that they did have herpes on their mouth and you happened to catch them while they were not having a break out, or there's a chance that many people are just lying. So, if you have had lots of BJs and never received herpes then maybe you're defying the odds. But the fact remains, if non-herpes infected skin rubs with skin that does have herpes then the non-infected skin is going to get herpes. This contact can be mouth to gential, genital to genital, thigh to thigh, leg to leg, mouth to leg, etc. It does not matter. If non-infected skin comes into long / hard contact with infected skin then it's going to get infected. Period.

Now, I hate to be negative, but someone does have to be honest. There are worse things than herpes so the choice is yours, just make an informed choice please. Please remember that someones mouth herpes can become your genital herpes.

Personal experience: When I started this, I started with covered BJs only. Then I picked up a chick in Rogers Park a few years back that looked so good that I went bareback. It was awesome and I stayed healthy. I did this two more times and the same result. I did this the next time and the next day, my dick looked like something from a horror movie. For months I thought it was herpes, turned out that it was just a yeast infection, which is rare in itself, but regardless, it only took me about 4 BBBJs to encounter something. Luckily, I avoided the herpes sentence and went back to CBJs.

[QUOTE=TJGeek;4089766]Sorry to bust the fake news about oral sex being risk free. Please read this as not all STDs are obvious. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm[/URL].

Oral sex now may cause oral cancer later: [URL]https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/hpv-transmission-during-oral-sex-a-growing-cause-of-mouth-and-throat-cancer-201306046346[/URL].[/QUOTE]Well we all know that you CAN catch it or MAY catch it, but that article didn't give any statistics so.

We're all well aware of the risks associated with our hobby and we're all free to choose what we think is best for us. There doesn't appear to be any rampant epidemic of STDs related to most of our hobby so.

When I first started in the hobby this veteran monger told me the ladies are more afraid of us then we should be of them and they did not want to catch anything. I always check the ladies hygiene and look for any obvious signs of mouth sores, body sores, bad odor, etc. If I see notice anything I don't do anything. Of course the CDC job is to scare people and that is fine but if you have concerns always ask your doctor and they will go through the science with you.

[QUOTE=Zeuss;4092164]Well we all know that you CAN catch it or MAY catch it, but that article didn't give any statistics so.

We're all well aware of the risks associated with our hobby and we're all free to choose what we think is best for us. There doesn't appear to be any rampant epidemic of STDs related to most of our hobby so.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bishop69;4081936]Guys can anyone explain to me why you want to DATY on an escort, SW, stripper, or any other working lady. It just seems that its a minefield you don't want to walk across.[/QUOTE]If you want the GFE, give her the BFE.

I have been finding several adds like this:

Lowest rate Offers. !

25 Dollars /30 mins.

50 Dollars /1 hour.

100 Dollars /3 hour.

200 Dollars /1 day / night.

With this prices, this is a scam or a trap, correct?

I am coming back to Chicago from a business trip this weekend, and I saw Priyanka. I am curious has anyone seen her? Looking for if she is worth the visit.

[URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicag...1445.htm?cat=1[/URL]

Any big fish out there interested in a 21 yo pawg? She's at $$ Cute, nice thick body, but more than I'm looking for at the moment. Any deep pocket hobbies that are interested, send me a PM. Known friends always preferred.

Yes, perhaps GPS, but some guys have the disposable. Let's skip the same old 'I would never' comments LOL.

I'm not sure what a split runs these days for a MMF. I have a 21 yo PAWG that has said she's down to get down. Seeing her tmro, so a last-minute MMF might be in the cards. I'd expect would be $$ per swinging stick for some tag team fun? Northside city or and burbs.

Only looking for one wingman. Friends PM me.

[QUOTE=TR5321;4101907]I have been finding several adds like this:

Lowest rate Offers. !

25 Dollars /30 mins.

50 Dollars /1 hour.

100 Dollars /3 hour.

200 Dollars /1 day / night.

With this prices, this is a scam or a trap, correct?[/QUOTE]I have always assumed that those were a scam or trap, probably the latter. [I]Especially[/I] if the pictures looked good. That's TGTBT.