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[QUOTE=ImJustVibin5;7468782]Busted as in cops?[/QUOTE]I have no idea in this case, but will point out when they operate out of apartments there are sometimes issues where the building eventually has to throw them out. Maybe that happened in this case?
[QUOTE=Markro3000;7468835]I have no idea in this case, but will point out when they operate out of apartments there are sometimes issues where the building eventually has to throw them out. Maybe that happened in this case?[/QUOTE]Ah appreciate it. Guess I go see bora to satisfy my yellow fever.
[QUOTE=FlyingGolfball;7468660]One of the providers just texted me.
They seem busted so no more business.[/QUOTE]Get her number out, time to go Indy!
[QUOTE=ImJustVibin5;7468782]Busted as in cops?[/QUOTE]She didn't specify the cause but seems like the case? Can't be 100% sure.
[QUOTE=Markro3000;7468835]I have no idea in this case, but will point out when they operate out of apartments there are sometimes issues where the building eventually has to throw them out. Maybe that happened in this case?[/QUOTE]Yeah, it amazes me how long they can operate in these locations. Apt managers have to know something is up with the somewhat constant series of dudes coming in and out for (presumably) an hour at a time. KA has been at that location for a long while.
[QUOTE=FlyingGolfball;7468660]One of the providers just texted me.
They seem busted so no more business.[/QUOTE]Do they usually arrest the providers or do they just shut them down?
[QUOTE=WhyHelloThar;7469010]Do they usually arrest the providers or do they just shut them down?[/QUOTE]If they get their book of business and the phones then warrants can be issued for hobbyists too.
They can subpoena records from voip companies like google and trace down hobbyists too. Depends on how big a statement the the wants to make.
We can just hope for the best and this is a good reason to use burner phones and never use your true I'd for verification.
I have heard of Hobbyists who were on Visa getting deported too.
Now in this case I did not see anything in the Bellevue PD crime stats.
No warrants were isssue in the area where AP does business.
So hoping it's nothing major.
But to answer your original question yes Providers in the past have been arrested and the operation was labeled as Human trafficking and not sure what happens after that. Maybe they get released and get Green Cards.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7468988]Yeah, it amazes me how long they can operate in these locations. Apt managers have to know something is up with the somewhat constant series of dudes coming in and out for (presumably) an hour at a time. KA has been at that location for a long while.[/QUOTE]I was jackhammering Lovely when the apartment maintenance came in to do the fire alarm check. Apparently, the notice had been posted on her door, but she just ignored it because she couldn't read. The next day, she was evicted. They eventually opened back up in a different apartment. I think AP will be up again soon. These agencies got some resiliency. KA probably loves it though.
[QUOTE=DS080;7469170]I was jackhammering Lovely when the apartment maintenance came in to do the fire alarm check. Apparently, the notice had been posted on her door, but she just ignored it because she couldn't read. The next day, she was evicted. They eventually opened back up in a different apartment. I think AP will be up again soon. These agencies got some resiliency. KA probably loves it though.[/QUOTE]So, we don't know if the law was involved in this? Does Bellevue publish police activity. If this was a raid, closing multiple apartment units in two buildings, would that be in the news? I would think if Johs were busted in a sting, that'd be newsworthy. I'm certainly hoping that client contact phone records are off-site, if not off- city, and would be nice if off- planet.
I mean absent evidence it was a raid, I'm sticking with my theory. And the fire alarm story really is consistent with that.
[QUOTE=Prancer1;7469152]
They can subpoena records from voip companies like google and trace down hobbyists too. [/QUOTE]Yes, and I know my burner can be traced to me by authorities. However, as I understand it as I'm not a lawyer, for most any crime associated with this hobby text conversations are not enough to proceed with prosecution unless you are explicit in agreeing to pay for services.
RCW 9 A. 88.30 states that "A person age eighteen or older is guilty of prostitution if such person engages or agrees or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee. ".
If you've never said "I will pay you $X if you will why" you're probably fine but a zealous ADA can still cause you a lot of headache in the meantime. In the end, it's always best to be as vague as possible whenever discussing anything with a provider, even ones you've seen before.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7469656]Yes, and I know my burner can be traced to me by authorities. However, as I understand it as I'm not a lawyer, for most any crime associated with this hobby text conversations are not enough to proceed with prosecution unless you are explicit in agreeing to pay for services.
RCW 9 A. 88.30 states that "A person age eighteen or older is guilty of prostitution if such person engages or agrees or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee. ".
If you've never said "I will pay you $X if you will why" you're probably fine but a zealous ADA can still cause you a lot of headache in the meantime. In the end, it's always best to be as vague as possible whenever discussing anything with a provider, even ones you've seen before.[/QUOTE]Yup depends completely on the AG and the.
And always good to limit discussions with the booker.
To have sex is the basic human need. Can't wait for the day the decriminalize it.
[QUOTE=Prancer1;7469704]Yup depends completely on the AG and the.
And always good to limit discussions with the booker.
To have sex is the basic human need. Can't wait for the day the decriminalize it.[/QUOTE]So is healthy food, a warm place to live, and healthcare but welcome to the United States where we don't give a fuck about your basic human needs. Get a job or die, peasant.
(sarcastic tone hopefully clear to everyone.)
[QUOTE=Prancer1;7469704]Yup depends completely on the AG and the.
And always good to limit discussions with the booker.
To have sex is the basic human need. Can't wait for the day the decriminalize it.[/QUOTE]I guess why it'd be nice to know if this was the police is this looming issue (any AG actions) and also continuing with KA. I would assume they would be next shoe to drop if this was a police action.
What makes me skeptical of this being simply the landlord and neighbors is they operated out of multiple units and multiple buildings. Would a neighbor complaint and subsequent landlord eviction affect all units in buildings? Does anyone know if those two buildings share a common owner or management company? It'd be a lazy mistake if they had all 4 or 5 apartments leased by the same person.
[QUOTE=Joseph1955;7469950]I guess why it'd be nice to know if this was the police is this looming issue (any AG actions) and also continuing with KA. I would assume they would be next shoe to drop if this was a police action.
What makes me skeptical of this being simply the landlord and neighbors is they operated out of multiple units and multiple buildings. Would a neighbor complaint and subsequent landlord eviction affect all units in buildings? Does anyone know if those two buildings share a common owner or management company? It'd be a lazy mistake if they had all 4 or 5 apartments leased by the same person.[/QUOTE]I don't really understand what is going on but I'm not going to Kangels for awhile. I'm taking a break until I get a better sense.
[QUOTE=NampaBoi;7470191]I don't really understand what is going on but I'm not going to Kangels for awhile. I'm taking a break until I get a better sense.[/QUOTE]Same. Not worth the risk. Fucking Bellevue.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7469926]So is healthy food, a warm place to live, and healthcare but welcome to the United States where we don't give a fuck about your basic human needs. Get a job or die, peasant.
(sarcastic tone hopefully clear to everyone.)[/QUOTE]Is healthy food, a warm place to live, or healthcare illegal where you live too?
What does this have to do with anything? Get a job or don't bother us, bum. Farming is a fine job.
[QUOTE=Vadger;7470310]Same. Not worth the risk. Fucking Bellevue.[/QUOTE]A couple years ago NikkiPink was moving out of the building that KA uses and into her new place. I had known her old building as being used by several providers but had no experience with KA at that time. Given shwas now gone, Nikki was open about saying cautioning me that the KA apartments at her old building were being watched by Bellevue's fnest. I don't know if she was just being a shit disturber, but it certainly was enough to keep me away from that whole building for more than a year. This is all great while it's fun, but you get these little windows that light up some of the downsides. And that's enough to scare me off for a while.
Not here, but I've seen K agency throwing other competitive K agencies under the bus. Intentionally tipping off to LEO to get rid of its competitions.
[QUOTE=Vadger;7470310]Same. Not worth the risk. Fucking Bellevue.[/QUOTE]Yeah, one of my favs is back, too, but best to lie low.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7470632]Yeah, one of my favs is back, too, but best to lie low.[/QUOTE]Hara is back it was like a Christmas wish come true but damn got to lay low.
Still nothing in the news or the the Bellevue Crime Stats.
I wonder if KA has any info.
I'm sure they are feeling the pain and would share any info to get business back to normal.
I had a great time with Hara. She is attractive and passionate with a great body and very friendly. We had good chemistry, and I think she enjoyed herself as much as I did.
I was a little nervous about visiting since AP shutdown, but I made sure to park several blocks away and walked. Didn't see or hear anything unusual and Hara didn't know anything more than me. I remember AP shutdown in a similar way several years ago only to rebrand and reopen a couple of months later. There was never any explanation for the shutdown.
I've have reached out to them but no reply. Is anyone able to get through?
[QUOTE=Prancer1;7470747]Hara is back it was like a Christmas wish come true but damn got to lay low.
Still nothing in the news or the the Bellevue Crime Stats.
I wonder if KA has any info.
I'm sure they are feeling the pain and would share any info to get business back to normal.[/QUOTE]Yup. That's who I meant.
KA is not incentivised to be truthful if it's likely to scare customers away.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7471320]Yup. That's who I meant.
KA is not incentivised to be truthful if it's likely to scare customers away.[/QUOTE]Exactly, you can't expect KA to say anything, even if they know exactly what happened. There's no upside for them to say anything beyond "yeah, we've heard something happened, we're still open and being extra careful, etc".
Only you can look out for your best interest.
I'm a moron and went to see Hara anyway before I was off for the holidays. Didn't get arrested so that was good.
Saw her a few months ago, a clear will NOT repeat. I went back and read my review (post 5848 in this thread) and I was being kind about her appearance and performance. You've been warned.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7471582]Saw her a few months ago, a clear will NOT repeat. I went back and read my review (post 5848 in this thread) and I was being kind about her appearance and performance. You've been warned.[/QUOTE]Just read that review.
Sounds horrible.
Especially with the AP stuff going on, definite pass.
I noticed Hara was gone from the KA website today and the booker confirmed she has left already. I was hoping to see her again. Either she wasn't getting enough bookings or she left because of the AP closure. She did tell me it had scared her. A real shame as she was one of the best experiences I have had in the hobby.
What happened to all the posts??
Also noticed a new Japanese chick on KA's website. Lmao is this them getting ready so less Korean girls get nabbed up and if something does happen, it's Japanese girls getting in trouble vs Korean?
No info on this Kazumi chick… I have ptsd from the last Japanese girl I met from AP. Man I couldn’t even stay hard, so I’m hesitant to try another Japanese girl
[QUOTE=Anger;7476842]What happened to all the posts??l[/QUOTE]Ok, thought I was losing it. Seems like they got moved to general reports and I was sure the conversation had been in this thread.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7477106]Ok, thought I was losing it. Seems like they got moved to general reports and I was sure the conversation had been in this thread.[/QUOTE]LMAO. FOR REAL. Literally second guessing myself. Mods out here unintentionally gaslighting folks.
But I'm horny af for a k girl rn. Suzie a recommendation from the peeps??
Anyone been to KA in the last week? Susie and Zuri seem to have been in the line up longer than usual.
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7479999]Anyone been to KA in the last week? Susie and Zuri seem to have been in the line up longer than usual.[/QUOTE]Zuri has left there for over a week.
[QUOTE=DS080;7480100]Zuri has left there for over a week.[/QUOTE]Yeah, was wondering. They are usually pretty quick with updating the list. So that's a concern given what happened to AP.
Has anyone got any response from Kangel in past 2 days? Is it also dead?
[QUOTE=HiddenMessage;7481370]Has anyone got any response from Kangel in past 2 days? Is it also dead?[/QUOTE]They just posted a new provider, so I think it's still open.
[QUOTE=DS080;7482002]They just posted a new provider, so I think it's still open.[/QUOTE]Old ones still up desire someone saying they are gone. I'm staying away for a while.
[QUOTE=DS080;7482002]They just posted a new provider, so I think it's still open.[/QUOTE]They updated their list. Web guy was on vacation is what I was told. Not the best lineup so I'd skip for now especially with the extra heat on. Found out there are 6 others working in that complex besides K-Girls. Either the management is in cahoots with them or well paid off.
[QUOTE=BBPornoGeek;7483613] 6 others working in that complex besides K-Girls. [/QUOTE]TNA girls? Sugar babies? Any noteworthy providers?