[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;7113239]Shit why not just book the threesome.[/QUOTE]Is it on the menu? Wouldn't mind dipping my toes in if there's some verified good times to be had.
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[QUOTE=TucsonMonger;7113239]Shit why not just book the threesome.[/QUOTE]Is it on the menu? Wouldn't mind dipping my toes in if there's some verified good times to be had.
[QUOTE=ItsNotNothing2;7118382]Is it on the menu? Wouldn't mind dipping my toes in if there's some verified good times to be had.[/QUOTE]TLDR: Yes. Ask the booker.
Depending on the agency, prices and girls, incall and outcalls available. I've done a few times, definitely worth it. Prices usually just double the single girl price. No discount for multiple girls or hours. Most will have listed on their pages, which girl (s) they will duo with.
If you want to be sure there is girl on girl action, ask the booker. Most / Some, depends YMMV etc. Be sure and ask. Not something I get, kind of want all the attention on me. Some are more comfortable than others doing each other.
Yea def worth doing. YOLO.
[QUOTE=JunHo;7118306]I saw that she was coming back 11/27 per her website, so I reached out to set an appointment the day she was to return to Vegas. The communication was pretty bad and didn't give a great first impression. She stated that she was going to be in LA, then after letting her know that her website was wrong since it said she would be in Vegas she said she would be in Vegas and asked what time. After giving her the time I wanted she said she would be in LA again. I was confused and asked her to let me know when she determined where she was going to be on the 27th. Early the next morning she decided that she was going to be in Vegas as we set the time for the 27th.
I arrive on time at the apartment complex and then I never got the building or room number. I waited for 25 minutes, and asked that if a cancellation was going to happen that it would be appreciated that they at least reply as soon as possible. I ended up booking a K-girl (Baby Arin) a few hours later so I went and found something to do for a few hours before that meeting. A few hours later I got a reply stating that she was sick and had taken some medication the night before and she was asleep. I thought I was messaging her manager, but apparently it was her.
I have heard many good things about her so I was a bit disappointed, but I understand that illness is not something we control and if she was going to lie, she would have come up with something better so I trust that she was being honest. I'll try to set up another appointment and see what all the fuss is about. Just realized that this is my first post on this site![/QUOTE]She definitely was sick for several days. She cancelled an appointment with me due to a sore throat, cough and fever. She subsequently made it up to me last Friday and was still a little hoarse when she talked. I saw her again today as well and had another great time. Unfortunately she is going back to LA late tonight till the 10th, returns to Vegas the 11th.
She doesn't have a manager, so you are contacting her directly. She does have some difficulty communicating due to the language barrier. Even though I've known her for a while now, I still need to be patient when communicating with her. I've found her to be worth the little extra that it takes.
[QUOTE=JunHo;7118306]I saw that she was coming back 11/27 per her website, so I reached out to set an appointment the day she was to return to Vegas. The communication was pretty bad and didn't give a great first impression. She stated that she was going to be in LA, then after letting her know that her website was wrong since it said she would be in Vegas she said she would be in Vegas and asked what time. After giving her the time I wanted she said she would be in LA again. I was confused and asked her to let me know when she determined where she was going to be on the 27th. Early the next morning she decided that she was going to be in Vegas as we set the time for the 27th.
I arrive on time at the apartment complex and then I never got the building or room number. I waited for 25 minutes, and asked that if a cancellation was going to happen that it would be appreciated that they at least reply as soon as possible. I ended up booking a K-girl (Baby Arin) a few hours later so I went and found something to do for a few hours before that meeting. A few hours later I got a reply stating that she was sick and had taken some medication the night before and she was asleep. I thought I was messaging her manager, but apparently it was her.
I have heard many good things about her so I was a bit disappointed, but I understand that illness is not something we control and if she was going to lie, she would have come up with something better so I trust that she was being honest. I'll try to set up another appointment and see what all the fuss is about. Just realized that this is my first post on this site![/QUOTE]Brother from Hawaii. She is now running solo with no manager / booker. Her reply can be slow at times. Pepsi took a 14 hour flight from NY to Hawaii. She stayed a week and went to LA a few days and now she is on and LV. Maybe the change of weather has gotten her sick. We consider anything below 70 degree is cold. I did the same reached out to her when she arrived. We exchanged a few text and then she stopped. I figured she was tired and left her alone to get some rest. A day or two later we exchanged text and we setup our date and the time spent with Pepsi was well worth a couple of days wait.
She's on her own. You might have to text her a few times. 1. Language barrier. 2. Jet lag. 3. Her phone is on silent and depending on the time of day. If she gets multiple texts you know it can get lost at the bottom as it gets pushed down the list. This is why I texted her after waiting a few hours. I didn't want to continuous text her every 15-30 minutes like I was desperate horny old man LOL. One thing I did do was setting up another date before I departed. I would text her in the morning before.
[QUOTE=JunHo;7118377] Is there a rule where we aren't allowed to say hi to the other girl? Baby Arin seemed to rush me into the room to prevent me interacting with the other girl so I just want to know so I don't violate any unspoken rules.[/QUOTE]Sort of seems like it. I've bumped into a roommate coming back from shopping at the front door, she was coming in I was going out, nothing said. If the roommate is out like in the kitchen, they're told we are coming out or to go hide, or something (my Korean isn't that good).
It's like they don't interact with a customer unless it's their customer.
Yea, seems like a rule, but couldn't guess why, haven't' been that curious to ask. "This is the way. " and I leave it at that.
Not sure how long it's been there, but apparently some folks have rubbed the LTLV booker the wrong way. Enough that they put a USASG notice on their contact page. Two of the three names have been banned, but I really didn't see any posts that would piss him off. Anyway, just thought it was interesting.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;7112119]If that's who she is, there's probably a better chance that she once looked like this:
[URL]https://www.foxylists.com/originalpenny[/URL][/QUOTE]Had a session with her not long ago. Body was curvier than most (plus), and service was acceptable. However, her face was fairly unattractive for me, looks similar to Nyomi Star for reference.
[QUOTE=ButtonMonkie;7119520]Not sure how long it's been there, but apparently some folks have rubbed the LTLV booker the wrong way. Enough that they put a USASG notice on their contact page. Two of the three names have been banned, but I really didn't see any posts that would piss him off. Anyway, just thought it was interesting.[/QUOTE]I did a quick check because I've never seen anything that should get them upset. Only thing I could find with a quick search was this:
[POST=6870620]LTLV Special mention[/POST]
[QUOTE=RogerOver;7119852]I did a quick check because I've never seen anything that should get them upset. Only thing I could find with a quick search was this:
[POST=6870620]LTLV Special mention[/POST][/QUOTE]I thought my username would be on there since I have posted before how I black listed them from my list because the booker was a nightmare to work with years ago when I tried them.
My guess is that some mongers called him out on either bait and switch with girls (I think they do that less these days, but they used to be known for doing that at least a few a years ago) or for screwing up scheduling. But sometimes these bookers / owners get really butt-hurt about stuff and won't admit they're wrong. The girls are generally good about customer service, but the bookers / owners are usually not so good (or sometimes downright terrible) with customer service.
I had a booker tell me one time that it was my fault that he screwed up scheduling. He said his wife was booking stuff for him, so that's why she told me the wrong time. Then he said he was going to blacklist me because I told him that was his fault, not mine. SMH.
[QUOTE=ButtonMonkie;7119520]Not sure how long it's been there, but apparently some folks have rubbed the LTLV booker the wrong way. Enough that they put a USASG notice on their contact page. Two of the three names have been banned, but I really didn't see any posts that would piss him off. Anyway, just thought it was interesting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ButtonMonkie;7119520]Not sure how long it's been there, but apparently some folks have rubbed the LTLV booker the wrong way. Enough that they put a USASG notice on their contact page. Two of the three names have been banned, but I really didn't see any posts that would piss him off. Anyway, just thought it was interesting.[/QUOTE]How would they even know who is who LOL never had a booker ask for a handle and if they ever do, I know not to fess it up.
So here is who has been showing me a good time in short.
VAC.
Chu. Hit or miss lookswise for most mongers. Great ass, face is okay, titties are modest B's but top tier service. One of the best BBBJ's you can ask for and probably tries the hardest to do you a service while in the sack with her.
Jay. Need not say more. MILF but ultimate service queen and her Nuru is something I take up once every time she rolls around. One of the better racks in the biz imo.
Baby Arin. Good luck getting her in the prime time slots these days. She's a verified HYA and very receptive to just about anything as a service queen MILF would be.
Honorable mention to Jane as well for being the only Filipino on the roster though she runs a little thicker than a snicker. Not sure how that runs with the crowd but she was really nice at the very least and I haven't creampied a Filipino woman in a long time until she showed up.
LTLV.
Boa. Like Jay, need not say more. Very meticulous and is a charmer. One of the best rimming's I've had in awhile and that's not said lightly.
Sexy Nina. Not a bad BBBJ but ultra great at having you lay back and do absolutely nothing but get pleasured. I usually like to be dominant with girls in general but she has a way of making me just take whatever comes.
VegasPepsi.
Pepsi. MILF but has had a lot of time in the game to perfect her craft. Open to about anything and she has treated me right everytime I've come in. I do not usually get GFE type service when I'm with her BUT she and Jay probably know their way around a man's body the best and it's not even close with the two of them in the lead.
[QUOTE=AwabiLover;7119117]Brother from Hawaii. She is now running solo with no manager / booker. Her reply can be slow at times. Pepsi took a 14 hour flight from NY to Hawaii. She stayed a week and went to LA a few days and now she is on and LV. Maybe the change of weather has gotten her sick. We consider anything below 70 degree is cold. I did the same reached out to her when she arrived. We exchanged a few text and then she stopped. I figured she was tired and left her alone to get some rest. A day or two later we exchanged text and we setup our date and the time spent with Pepsi was well worth a couple of days wait.
She's on her own. You might have to text her a few times. 1. Language barrier. 2. Jet lag. 3. Her phone is on silent and depending on the time of day. If she gets multiple texts you know it can get lost at the bottom as it gets pushed down the list. This is why I texted her after waiting a few hours. I didn't want to continuous text her every 15-30 minutes like I was desperate horny old man LOL. One thing I did do was setting up another date before I departed. I would text her in the morning before.[/QUOTE]Back in LA again. She will be back in Las Vegas on the 11th - 17th, and then on to Hawaii.
Looks like LTLV might be either doing some bait-and-switch tactics and / or they have two girls working under the same name. A few of Grace's TER reviews describe her as a Korean / Latina mix, which Penny / Ariana definitely is not. I wonder what's going on with that.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;7112119]If that's who she is, there's probably a better chance that she once looked like this:
[URL]https://www.foxylists.com/originalpenny[/URL][/QUOTE]
It's also weird that most of their girls are listed as being here just for a "short visit", but most of them have been listed for months. It's pretty much a guarantee that there's no way their entire roster of almost 20 girls listed is actually available. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some baiting / switching going on, especially for if a monger hasn't seen a girl before.
[QUOTE=SplendidOrchid;7121153]Looks like LTLV might be either doing some bait-and-switch tactics and / or they have two girls working under the same name. A few of Grace's TER reviews describe her as a Korean / Latina mix, which Penny / Ariana definitely is not. I wonder what's going on with that.[/QUOTE]
I just got done seeing Sora.
Location is near flamingo and jones area.
She was amazing.
She is is running a special right now for.
$320 BBFS, msog, CIP.
When I got there she was wearing a sexy black lingerie that was see through.
Once I gave her the donation we went to having a lot of fun.
She is petite but a good petite with nice "b" size breasts I think.
She has a nice shaved pussy.
Speaks a little English so I just use a translator.
After round 1 I gave her a nice long massage until I was ready for round 2.
When she gets on top it's over, she knows how to ride (maybe she is a Korean cowgirl).
Take good care of her and keep leaving great reviews on anyone else that is good so we can help each out.
[URL]https://sodashoppe.nl/model/sora/[/URL]
Booker at DW told me she is my type, which he knows well. A true small girl, rather than others advertised here. 4'11" and maybe 92 ibs. I love to include measurements so guys can disseminate for themselves. Pictures are very close, and one is definitely her. Hot little body, great kisser and loves pleasing.
Only 2 people listed on their page and neither with that name. Only see Lori and Barbi and neither is like you describe. They need to update their site I guess.
[QUOTE=FineDining;7122519]Booker at DW told me she is my type, which he knows well. A true small girl, rather than others advertised here. 4'11" and maybe 92 ibs. I love to include measurements so guys can disseminate for themselves. Pictures are very close, and one is definitely her. Hot little body, great kisser and loves pleasing.[/QUOTE]
Anyone seen Pepe at VAC? Description sounds promising.
[QUOTE=FineDining;7122519]Booker at DW told me she is my type, which he knows well. A true small girl, rather than others advertised here. 4'11" and maybe 92 ibs. I love to include measurements so guys can disseminate for themselves. Pictures are very close, and one is definitely her. Hot little body, great kisser and loves pleasing.[/QUOTE]Spell check issue, sorry.
[QUOTE=FineDining;7122519]Booker at DW told me she is my type, which he knows well. A true small girl, rather than others advertised here. 4'11" and maybe 92 ibs. I love to include measurements so guys can disseminate for themselves. Pictures are very close, and one is definitely her. Hot little body, great kisser and loves pleasing.[/QUOTE]What's her name I see two in the line up.
Good reviews. Chu have a lot of reviews. She love going to the islands.
[QUOTE=ItsNotNothing2;7120060]So here is who has been showing me a good time in short.
VAC.
Chu. Hit or miss lookswise for most mongers. Great ass, face is okay, titties are modest B's but top tier service. One of the best BBBJ's you can ask for and probably tries the hardest to do you a service while in the sack with her.
Jay. Need not say more. MILF but ultimate service queen and her Nuru is something I take up once every time she rolls around. One of the better racks in the biz imo.
Baby Arin. Good luck getting her in the prime time slots these days. She's a verified HYA and very receptive to just about anything as a service queen MILF would be.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking of seen her tonight. Thanks for the review.
[QUOTE=OKYouWin;7122021]I just got done seeing Sora.
Location is near flamingo and jones area.
She was amazing.
She is is running a special right now for.
$320 BBFS, msog, CIP.
When I got there she was wearing a sexy black lingerie that was see through.
Once I gave her the donation we went to having a lot of fun.
She is petite but a good petite with nice "b" size breasts I think.
She has a nice shaved pussy.
Speaks a little English so I just use a translator.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FineDining;7122519]Booker at DW told me she is my type, which he knows well. A true small girl, rather than others advertised here. 4'11" and maybe 92 ibs. I love to include measurements so guys can disseminate for themselves. Pictures are very close, and one is definitely her. Hot little body, great kisser and loves pleasing.[/QUOTE]Is this the agency you're talking about? Haven't heard a peep about that place in a long time. In fact last time I checked website it was down. Seems to be back up now. Lori seems like an interesting gal. Her weight is 99 lbs. And she's also 99 lbs tall. Her breast implants are "Incall", she's available for "playing" and she likes "rude guys". So I guess I'll do my best to be an asshole. Plus she's multilingual. Her 1st language is Korean and her 2nd language is Korean.
LOL, wow. I mean, I'm not expecting perfect grammar, but even the most cursory of proofreading would have caught those errors.
[QUOTE=Seville;7123320]Is this the agency you're talking about? Haven't heard a peep about that place in a long time. In fact last time I checked website it was down. Seems to be back up now. Lori seems like an interesting gal. Her weight is 99 lbs. And she's also 99 lbs tall. Her breast implants are "Incall", she's available for "playing" and she likes "rude guys". So I guess I'll do my best to be an asshole. Plus she's multilingual. Her 1st language is Korean and her 2nd language is Korean.[/QUOTE]
That's an old school Agency. I remember paying them a visit back in 2014 I think. There's was a rumor they had a girl that did BBFS according to her TER reviews. This was circa 2010-2015 BBFS was a taboo subject back then.
[QUOTE=Seville;7123320]Is this the agency you're talking about? Haven't heard a peep about that place in a long time. In fact last time I checked website it was down. Seems to be back up now. Lori seems like an interesting gal. Her weight is 99 lbs. And she's also 99 lbs tall. Her breast implants are "Incall", she's available for "playing" and she likes "rude guys". So I guess I'll do my best to be an asshole. Plus she's multilingual. Her 1st language is Korean and her 2nd language is Korean.[/QUOTE]
Going to try a Korean agency. Any advice for a first timer? What agency should I start with? Any negotiating tips? Rates? Thanks, I am an AMP aficionado but love beautiful Korean women.
[QUOTE=TopGunFun;7123796]Going to try a Korean agency. Any advice for a first timer? What agency should I start with? Any negotiating tips? Rates? Thanks, I am an AMP aficionado but love beautiful Korean women.[/QUOTE]YOu don't negotiate really. You tell the booker what you're looking for and who and how long. Also include if you want to upgrade to the BBFS and if you want more than one round.
All the agencies are pretty much the same to me. Only difference is a couple of have car services which is great especially if you don't rent a car.
Look through the posts and you will see the girls and who are the top performers. I would stick with that.
Also, expect the girl not to look like her pictures. The photos on the sites are obviously photoshopped yet people still act surprised. I'm happy if the girl sort of resembles the stats posted. I've only had one time when it wasn't the girl. But the girl I saw made up for it with pretty great service.
PM if you want I can give you my experience with the ones I've used.
Except lvgirlfriend and sodashoppe.
I've used the other agencies.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=TopGunFun;7123796]Going to try a Korean agency. Any advice for a first timer? What agency should I start with? Any negotiating tips? Rates? Thanks, I am an AMP aficionado but love beautiful Korean women.[/QUOTE]Rooks answer is very spot on. I would only add -.
If you ignore the pictures you'll have a great time. I know some are not even photo-shopped and just a completely different girl. Supposedly "resembles" is the line they use. Maybe, sort of. That's where many say they are photo-shopped. Odds are they are going to be hot. I've only had one I had an issue with looks, but she's not around anymore.
If you have something special you prefer speak up, naturals vs mms a few dyed blondes are around, taller or spinner, etc. A few have a 'special' menu for extra (greek). Not many and it's an upcharge.
Most of the stats on the webpage are accurate. Except for age. If you ignore age and the photos. Might be a couple in their 40's, but Asians age well especially if they take care of themselves. Most are late 20's or early 30's, if I had to guess, no matter what their webpage says. Older just means better service.
Sort of like AMPs, but no tableshowers, But get the shower, it's not for cleaning and usually where the fun starts. Like AMPs you can ask for someone, but you never know who you're really going to get. But you don't have to worry walking out of an AMP in a public mall. No interruptions and can't hear the dude in the next room.
No negotiating, you can tip, some do, some don't. I go regularly so I tip a little. If the booker gets too many bad reports, the girls are usually "re-trained" or asked to move-on. So honestly is the best option IMO. Like in AMPs a girls English is hit or miss, but as long as you're not going for intellectual conversation, you'll have a good time.
[QUOTE=BigHose1975;7123404]That's an old school Agency. I remember paying them a visit back in 2014 I think. There's was a rumor they had a girl that did BBFS according to her TER reviews. This was circa 2010-2015 BBFS was a taboo subject back then.[/QUOTE]I remember was and a complex across the Rio, was a pain because they have a security at the gate and sometimes you had to walk from the weekly next. LOL it was my first bbbfs experience and she went right in to it. Don't remember her name to be honest. But usually their girls were not good or hot.
[QUOTE=KSpacey;7122999]Anyone seen Pepe at VAC? Description sounds promising.[/QUOTE]I went and saw them both given they're both new to the area and here's the skinny on them imo.
Gio is a spinner and but Pepe is the mega spinner at 4'9.
Gio is probably late 20's early 30's with a perfect bid for the skinny girl lovers.
Pepe is hotter at 4'9 with natural C's and is verifiably young as fuck. Probably as young as some of the J girls that come through every now and again but the service was just okay. Deepthroat was lacking and I had trouble bottoming out in her.
I bottomed out in Gio too but she didn't seem to push back and more importantly seemed comfortable with going hard. Not any knock on either of them really since Pepe seems like a new girl straight from Korea and probably doesn't have the experience that Gio has. With that, I'm going back for a double header with Baby Arin.
Possibly the best blend between service and looks but if you're curious on the new girls, that's the skinny on them imo.
I was in Vegas for a few weeks last month and tried Zudi, Jay and Arin. All were fun and satisficing, while Zudi and Jay were pretty much PSE with full blown rimming, BBBJ preview in the shower and aggressive DFK, Arin was more my GFE speed with the nicest kissing I have ever experienced with an Asian provider. Although no preview in the shower, her BBBJ after was deep, slow, gentle and felt very personal. Lovely tight little body and seemingly very appreciative of everything I did. I love the shower before and after! I could certainly repeat happily with any of them, however Arin would be the top choice and I wouldn't go for the nuru option with Jay again.
Very satisfying experience with this genuine j-girl. She has small b-cups with a big butt! Lots of tattoos as well. If you're into more alternative girls, she's definitely a bit more a variety. Very tight and had me creaming fast.
Would recommend, will repeat!
[QUOTE=Gopher0254;7124052]Rooks answer is very spot on. I would only add -.
If you ignore the pictures you'll have a great time. I know some are not even photo-shopped and just a completely different girl. Supposedly "resembles" is the line they use. Maybe, sort of. That's where many say they are photo-shopped. Odds are they are going to be hot. I've only had one I had an issue with looks, but she's not around anymore.
If you have something special you prefer speak up, naturals vs mms a few dyed blondes are around, taller or spinner, etc. A few have a 'special' menu for extra (greek). Not many and it's an upcharge.
Most of the stats on the webpage are accurate. Except for age. If you ignore age and the photos. Might be a couple in their 40's, but Asians age well especially if they take care of themselves. Most are late 20's or early 30's, if I had to guess, no matter what their webpage says. Older just means better service.
Sort of like AMPs, but no tableshowers, But get the shower, it's not for cleaning and usually where the fun starts. Like AMPs you can ask for someone, but you never know who you're really going to get. But you don't have to worry walking out of an AMP in a public mall. No interruptions and can't hear the dude in the next room.
No negotiating, you can tip, some do, some don't. I go regularly so I tip a little. If the booker gets too many bad reports, the girls are usually "re-trained" or asked to move-on. So honestly is the best option IMO. Like in AMPs a girls English is hit or miss, but as long as you're not going for intellectual conversation, you'll have a good time.[/QUOTE]Thank you and rooks for the info. I'll be in Vegas in a few weeks and will give them a try!
I'll be in town in a few weeks and am looking to try this for the first time. Question, which agencies have a ride service? Will they pick you up from / to your hotel round trip? Is that an extra fee? Thanks for all the info!
[QUOTE=ItsNotNothing2;7124104]
Pepe is hotter at 4'9 with natural C's and is verifiably young as fuck. Probably as young as some of the J girls that come through every now and again but the service was just okay. Deepthroat was lacking and I had trouble bottoming out in her.[/QUOTE]I'm intrigued by Pepe's stats but Baby Arin is my ATF, probably booked her 7 or 8 times now. Do you think Pepe is worth a try or should I stick with Arin? I don't mind a less experienced / service oriented girl if she is young and hot.
[QUOTE=Icarus486;7124973]I'm intrigued by Pepe's stats but Baby Arin is my ATF, probably booked her 7 or 8 times now. Do you think Pepe is worth a try or should I stick with Arin? I don't mind a less experienced / service oriented girl if she is young and hot.[/QUOTE]Looks like Pepe is already gone. Replaced with Bomi. Bummer I was thinking about checking out Pepe today also.
I have had to see this little hottie three times now. She tells me she is 22 and her looks and body support that premise. I have seen most of 'spinners' in town, but her body is superior IMO. Very sweet too, and she seems to love kissing. It would be nice if Discreet Whispers would get me a frequent flyer account and associated benefits.
Is DW back to their old self now? Before they disappeared, things got weird with them moving the incalls to a house, then a different house, then a different house, before seemingly shutting down for good. Where is their incall now?
[QUOTE=FineDining;7125171]I have had to see this little hottie three times now. She tells me she is 22 and her looks and body support that premise. I have seen most of 'spinners' in town, but her body is superior IMO. Very sweet too, and she seems to love kissing. It would be nice if Discreet Whispers would get me a frequent flyer account and associated benefits.[/QUOTE]
Also, looks like there is no Miyu? Just a Lori and a Barbi listed on their site. Has Miyu left or is she coming back soon?
[QUOTE=FineDining;7125171]I have had to see this little hottie three times now. She tells me she is 22 and her looks and body support that premise. I have seen most of 'spinners' in town, but her body is superior IMO. Very sweet too, and she seems to love kissing. It would be nice if Discreet Whispers would get me a frequent flyer account and associated benefits.[/QUOTE]