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Wanted 600 for an intimate dinner date. I asked if she could do bare for that, she said no it would be more. Asked how much, said 1 k. I asked if she could stay the whole evening for 1 k, in my mind being something like 6 pm - 12 am. She agreed. We actually ended up meeting days earlier than originally agreed, and it was for lunch, so I asked her to stay for the whole afternoon and she agreed as well. Came over and I got room service and we talked, then went to the bedroom.

Sex is lackluster, she's got major resting ***** face. Body is very nice, small spinner. Couldn't get me to cum, but we keep fucking and she ends up squirting on my sheets in reverse CG. Told her to keep riding, and after a while I finally creampied her.

She immediately gets up, showers, and makes to leave. She comes out and starts getting dressed, I ask her where she's going. She says she's got to go, and I remind her she promised to stay for the whole afternoon. She says "Oh, I didn't think you meant the WHOLE afternoon!" and starts saying she's got stuff to do. I'm annoyed at this point, and gave her a little less to get her out of my hair. She's upset, says we agreed on 1 k, I told her she agreed to be here for more time. She ends up leaving, and I was in a suite so I didn't follow her out the door, was just cleaning up in the bedroom and throwing the wet sheets on the ground, calling housekeeping, etc.

I come out and nothing is amiss, but the next day, I realize my bottle of cologne is missing from the desk in the living area. I don't have solid proof she stole it and not a housekeeper, but my money is on her.

Next thing you know, I'm browsing Eros since AVN's are coming and I want to see which pornstars are available to fuck, and who do I find?

[URL]https://www.eros.com/nevada/las_vegas/files/3595294.htm?cat=32[/URL]

Almost definitely not someone stealing her pics, since she's not famous enough to find on the internet. Those pics also aren't on her IG, which she showed me.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6274727][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/df375e44-408f-4965-9d75-084a1338ebfc[/URL]

Wanted 600 for an intimate dinner date. I asked if she could do bare for that, she said no it would be more. Asked how much, said 1 k. I asked if she could stay the whole evening for 1 k, in my mind being something like 6 pm - 12 am. She agreed. We actually ended up meeting days earlier than originally agreed, and it was for lunch, so I asked her to stay for the whole afternoon and she agreed as well. Came over and I got room service and we talked, then went to the bedroom.

Sex is lackluster, she's got major resting ***** face. Body is very nice, small spinner. Couldn't get me to cum, but we keep fucking and she ends up squirting on my sheets in reverse CG. Told her to keep riding, and after a while I finally creampied her.

She immediately gets up, showers, and makes to leave. She comes out and starts getting dressed, I ask her where she's going. She says she's got to go, and I remind her she promised to stay for the whole afternoon. She says "Oh, I didn't think you meant the WHOLE afternoon!" and starts saying she's got stuff to do. I'm annoyed at this point, and gave her a little less to get her out of my hair. She's upset, says we agreed on 1 k, I told her she agreed to be here for more time. She ends up leaving, and I was in a suite so I didn't follow her out the door, was just cleaning up in the bedroom and throwing the wet sheets on the ground, calling housekeeping, etc.

I come out and nothing is amiss, but the next day, I realize my bottle of cologne is missing from the desk in the living area. I don't have solid proof she stole it and not a housekeeper, but my money is on her.

[/QUOTE]I am not in the high roller world. But I do have a few simple things I have learned over the years. One is to get an exact time frame for any date. Like to the minute. I usually do 1 hour dates knowing if they are pros they are hoping to ditch in maybe 30 minutes. Sometimes I,ll let them leave after 45 minutes. And sometimes they overstay. But as in any sales agreement never have any grey areas that could interpreted in more than one way. And if necessary have them repeat it back to you exactly as it was explained and more than once if need be. Get in txt and save the txt just in case.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6274943]I am not in the high roller world. But I do have a few simple things I have learned over the years. One is to get an exact time frame for any date. Like to the minute. I usually do 1 hour dates knowing if they are pros they are hoping to ditch in maybe 30 minutes. Sometimes I,ll let them leave after 45 minutes. And sometimes they overstay. But as in any sales agreement never have any grey areas that could interpreted in more than one way. And if necessary have them repeat it back to you exactly as it was explained and more than once if need be. Get in txt and save the txt just in case.[/QUOTE]I do that already. I usually tell them something like "I don't like rushed dates, so can we do dinner + at least X hours in the room?

50% of the time, the girl gets weirded out by mentioning specific hours, other half are okay. Either way, specifics haven't stopped low-effort walkouts, they just make some excuse about being tired, or that they're sore, or whatever. For this specific girl, she used the "oh babe I don't like to put a time limit on dates, I want it to feel natural." Usually a scammer line, but I love me some spinner and she's small, thin, and just my type, so I said fuck it.

I've fought some of them, like told them we agreed on X hours and if they leave now they're not getting allowance. I did this in one of my previous reviews, it's the one where I talked about her stealing my shoes. That's basically the best outcome, getting cussed out by the girl and told I'm a fat ugly POS who couldn't get pussy without paying, etc, while they stomp out the door with no money. One girl back home in DC told me she'd get her "boys" to jump me, and that she'd expose me to everybody because she found my LinkedIn. Another physically attacked me when I took the cash I had on the dresser and put it back in my pocket after she was a deadfish. Like literally grabbed and clawed me. I shoved her back a couple times but she kept coming. I shoved her really hard and she hit the dresser, hit her shoulder and the side of her head, but still kept coming. I knew at that point if I didn't give the money, I'd have to knock her out or something, and I'm not about to have an unconscious girl in my hotel room. Ended up throwing the bills at her and leaving while she was picking them up.

Other times, I've tried to force them to stay, and some still do because they want the money. But, the experience is still bad. I can only cum maybe 25% of the time when I fuck pussies raw anyway, and that's if the girl is good at sex. Some deadfish ***** that is rushing and you know wants to be out of the room, there's 0% chance I nut, so it's literally just lose lose for both of us, I have to sit there watching their angry face while they lazily ride me, and they have to be there when they don't want to. Better to just get them out.

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Told her 500 no condom, she agrees. Meeting time comes, she ghosts. Hits me up later, gaslights me by saying I never confirmed. I'm horny so give her another shot that night. She says she wants to bring a GF, 400 each for 3 hours. I agree, as long as she is okay with bare too. They confirm. Meeting time comes, says they want a condom. I tell them to eat shit.

Fucking wasted 2 appointments I could have made with other girls. Fucking hate cunts like that. Obvious hardcore pros.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/801ac14b-cacd-4803-956d-3bfec95bc727[/URL]

Extremely hot. Very wet, very submissive in bed. However, extremely difficult to schedule with. Cams during certain days, then takes forever to get ready. Also hates planning things out, and will resist attempts for you to make plans. Basically, only see her if you're local and have tons of free time for whenever she's finally able to get together.

Also, 1 k PPM BBFS. Will not take anything less, and does not like long dates, so dinner + 1 fuck in the room is what she says she's used to.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4e4cc20c-1a59-4232-a636-eeb109afedba[/URL]

"An hour is 450, I'd love to get together if your free and available".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664[/URL]

I offered 500 PPM because she looked like a hot, fit blonde, and she agreed. Then brought up BBFS and she balked, acted bitchy and I had to sweet talk her and tell her I can show her tests. Finally agreed to it.

Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. Afterwards, we went upstairs, and she was terrible in bed too. Kind of lazy, didn't want to fuck for too long. I think we may have been in bed for less than an hour before she tapped out and said no more, put her clothes on.

Would not repeat for any reason.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6286296][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664[/URL]

I offered 500 PPM because she looked like a hot, fit blonde, and she agreed. Then brought up BBFS and she balked, acted bitchy and I had to sweet talk her and tell her I can show her tests. Finally agreed to it.

Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. Afterwards, we went upstairs, and she was terrible in bed too. Kind of lazy, didn't want to fuck for too long. I think we may have been in bed for less than an hour before she tapped out and said no more, put her clothes on.

Would not repeat for any reason.[/QUOTE]She listed herself as average which automatically means she is a little heavier than average. And her pics were all those angles where you can't really see her body.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6286296][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664[/URL]

I offered 500 PPM because she looked like a hot, fit blonde, and she agreed. Then brought up BBFS and she balked, acted bitchy and I had to sweet talk her and tell her I can show her tests. Finally agreed to it.

Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. Afterwards, we went upstairs, and she was terrible in bed too. Kind of lazy, didn't want to fuck for too long. I think we may have been in bed for less than an hour before she tapped out and said no more, put her clothes on.

Would not repeat for any reason.[/QUOTE]Personally I do not even want sex if I have just eaten. Much less at a good place where you are going to indulge. Why not save the dinner till after and then adjust to the quality of the place based on the quality of the date? You are one generous guy.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6286296][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664[/URL]



Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. .[/QUOTE]Better to meet up for drinks and see if there is a vibe and if not just get her an uber and you are a winner. Else its just money down the drain.

Does anyone know what happened to Lexi? Sexy petite sweet enough to eat, 36 years old.

11:34 PM on 2022-12-19 saw her a few times up until about a month ago, then she stopped posting.

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;6286649]Better to meet up for drinks and see if there is a vibe and if not just get her an uber and you are a winner. Else its just money down the drain.[/QUOTE]And for those of us that don"t drink, starbucks, boba, or whatever is always a good choice.

[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;6286402]She listed herself as average which automatically means she is a little heavier than average. And her pics were all those angles where you can't really see her body.[/QUOTE]I tend not to look too much at how the girls categorize themselves because some of them are stupid as fuck or don't have the correct standards. For example:

1. I've had girls who looked totally white list themselves as Mixed or Other because their granddad was 1/2 Jamaican or something. I filter out Mixed and Other because I don't like black girls, and most mixed or other girls look black. Girls don't really understand that white women are the cream of the crop, literally everybody wants to fuck a white girl. Research from companies like Tinder and OkCupid show that besides your own race, the race men are most likely to be attracted to is white women. If a girl can pass off as white, she should list herself as white. You don't even have to know this research, literally any person who is a little aware of pop culture should know that white skin is seen as attractive. But, for some reason some girls don't get this fact.

2. So many women's beauty standards have been warped by the "thicc" perception of beauty from the rap / gen z period. Body positivity, Victoria Secret models being labeled as unappealing and unrelatable and scorned along with the company itself experiencing a downfall, all of this has contributed to unattractive girls listing themselves under attractive labels. Since being chubby with a big butt and thighs and no abs is pushed as beautiful these days, you have chunky girls listing themselves as "fit / athletics" while the girls with the traditional model look of thin, proportionate boobs / butt see themselves as "average" because they don't have a Kim K booty.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6286437]Personally I do not even want sex if I have just eaten. Much less at a good place where you are going to indulge. Why not save the dinner till after and then adjust to the quality of the place based on the quality of the date? You are one generous guy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6287149]And for those of us that don"t drink, starbucks, boba, or whatever is always a good choice.[/QUOTE]I would have to inconvenience myself to do this. Basically when I'm in Vegas, I work off my laptop, with my company being on the east coast and me working east coast hours. So I get up at 5 AM, start work at 6 AM, and work until about 5 - 6 PM.

If I wanted to eat by myself then meet a girl later that night, I'd have to tell her to come by around 8 - 9 PM for drinks. So spend 30 min - 1 hr drinking and chatting, so it's 9 PM - 10 PM by then. Around the time I should get to sleep because I got to be up at 5 AM the next day. But if we get along and I decide to man up and take her upstairs even though I'm tired and have to get up early, then I still only got about 1 - 2 hours of fucking at most before I really have to sleep. Better for my time to bring a girl to dinner at 5 PM, eat and talk until 7 PM, then fuck until 10 - 11 PM for the 500 - 1000 PPM that I can normally negotiate.

Also, I stay at Aria, Cosmo, Bellagio, or Wynn. There aren't any Boba places there, drinks at the bars there are just as expensive as a meal sometimes, and there aren't any unique places to get coffee besides Starbucks. I don't like coffee much, and Starbucks is way less good then a nice Korean or French cafe. But, I also don't want to leave the hotel because travel time cuts into my fucking time, so if I ubered out to Henderson or Summerlin or something, I'd be losing out.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6286296][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/995482da-535e-44c1-b30c-01f4db379664[/URL]

I offered 500 PPM because she looked like a hot, fit blonde, and she agreed. Then brought up BBFS and she balked, acted bitchy and I had to sweet talk her and tell her I can show her tests. Finally agreed to it.

Showed up and was fatter in person. Also really stupid and not great at conversation. Went to dinner at STK and it was miserable. Afterwards, we went upstairs, and she was terrible in bed too. Kind of lazy, didn't want to fuck for too long. I think we may have been in bed for less than an hour before she tapped out and said no more, put her clothes on.

Would not repeat for any reason.[/QUOTE]Ahhhh, ain't empty sex grand?? Haha. Order the asteroid already. These 304's are getting hard to take anymore. All is lost in the kissy game.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6287259]I would have to inconvenience myself to do this. Basically when I'm in Vegas, I work off my laptop, with my company being on the east coast and me working east coast hours. So I get up at 5 AM, start work at 6 AM, and work until about 5 - 6 PM.

If I wanted to eat by myself then meet a girl later that night, I'd have to tell her to come by around 8 - 9 PM for drinks. So spend 30 min - 1 hr drinking and chatting, so it's 9 PM - 10 PM by then. Around the time I should get to sleep because I got to be up at 5 AM the next day. But if we get along and I decide to man up and take her upstairs even though I'm tired and have to get up early, then I still only got about 1 - 2 hours of fucking at most before I really have to sleep. Better for my time to bring a girl to dinner at 5 PM, eat and talk until 7 PM, then fuck until 10 - 11 PM for the 500 - 1000 PPM that I can normally negotiate.

Also, I stay at Aria, Cosmo, Bellagio, or Wynn. There aren't any Boba places there, drinks at the bars there are just as expensive as a meal sometimes, and there aren't any unique places to get coffee besides Starbucks. I don't like coffee much, and Starbucks is way less good then a nice Korean or French cafe. But, I also don't want to leave the hotel because travel time cuts into my fucking time, so if I ubered out to Henderson or Summerlin or something, I'd be losing out.[/QUOTE]Well that explains it. I guess I get a little too wired from the anticipation. When I meet a new girl if she it hot and the sparks are there (like in the first few minutes) then bam. I need to get to it asap. I think in 15 or so years of doing this I have only sat through like 3 meals before hitting the FC. Sat through maybe a few more starbucks or whatever though. Also the way I M&G is usually just to chat in the car for a few minutes anyway. I basically did that even when I was rolling in it. But I have been semi-retired for quite a while so scheduling is a whole lot easier than what you have to deal with.

I read once that almost any girl makes up her mind about a guy within the first 5 minutes. And not always but many times I am picking up the girl. So I go to the spot, talk in the car, and if its cool I am back to my place. And if not, some mild awkwardness and then she is gone. And I do let some come straight to my place with no M&G, but that style seems to have gone out of style with these girls since covid. Plus I really do a heavy screening prior to meeting them to cut down on the ones I reject in person.

But thanks for all your many posts. I wish more people would post their screening and M&G techniques as I have learned a lot and adopted many of those over the years. Whatever happens after that is usually a YMMV scenario.