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[QUOTE=MacSaladNoise;7238508]Closing end of April, cleaning / renovation for 2 weeks, then opening with 3 mamas around tax day.
No clue where the ladies will be relocating plus I get the feeling the new mamas don't want them kinda how Club 1010 is.[/QUOTE]I would think to Eclipse. One of the new mama at Eclipse used to work at Oasis. Also, an old timer of Waterfall is at Eclipse.
[QUOTE=GoSteelers2018;7238690]Is this the bar that used to be Arisu?[/QUOTE]Yes. Oasis=Arisu.
Beware gents, GT has become (if it hasn't already been) a pit of vipers under Mama Michelle. Your money is better spent elsewhere, especially if you're roaming in Kalihi. As many have said before, spend wisely and go to AMPs instead of buying endless $40 drinks and getting a kiss on the cheek good night. The faster this shit ends, the better, IMO.
[QUOTE=Pueo808;7250766]Beware gents, GT has become (if it hasn't already been) a pit of vipers under Mama Michelle. Your money is better spent elsewhere, especially if you're roaming in Kalihi. As many have said before, spend wisely and go to AMPs instead of buying endless $40 drinks and getting a kiss on the cheek good night. The faster this shit ends, the better, IMO.[/QUOTE]Everyone wants a $40 drink, even the DJ and kitchen mama.
[QUOTE=Pueo808;7250766]Beware gents, GT has become (if it hasn't already been) a pit of vipers under Mama Michelle. Your money is better spent elsewhere, especially if you're roaming in Kalihi. As many have said before, spend wisely and go to AMPs instead of buying endless $40 drinks and getting a kiss on the cheek good night. The faster this shit ends, the better, IMO.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to lie this has generally been almost every Korean bar I have gone too. No play at all unless you "invest" in a KBG which is what even came out of the mouth of one I was sitting with.
[QUOTE=MacSaladNoise;7251067]Everyone wants a $40 drink, even the DJ and kitchen mama.[/QUOTE]Where can you go for $20 drinks?
[QUOTE=RoyBoy808;7251671]Where can you go for $20 drinks?[/QUOTE]Costco.
[QUOTE=RoyBoy808;7251671]Where can you go for $20 drinks?[/QUOTE]Recommend this place if you want good grinds, good service, no hassle. Probably not a coincidence that the same Mamas. Sisters Yuna and Moon. Have been stable mgmt over the past 10 years or so. I can't name another KB that can boast this. Same regulars. Everybody pretty much knows everybody. The regulars often bring food to share. $1 karaoke. Moon Mama used to have a restaurant or two in Korea and is an excellent cook. Better than the kitchen mamas. There are a couple of younger girls who work the floor, but they pretty much only come in to see their regular customers. So if you're a newcomer there really isn't anybody to hassle you for drinks. Again, only $20 drinks. Even for the Mamas.
This is the best KB in town. For customer service, that is. If you want to relax and watch TV sports. Or sing karaoke. Wouldn't recommend it for play or eye candy. Although if I were in my 70's I might find some of the KBGs in their 60's there attractive. Moon and Yuna have aged well and haven't let themselves go like some of the other older Mamas around town.
If there is play, it is strictly take out. Booths are pretty much open and no private rooms. I wouldn't really know. . . But I've heard that some of the girls who used to work there may have had some LVBs.
GG.
[QUOTE=RoyBoy808;7251671]Where can you go for $20 drinks?[/QUOTE]Anywhere. Hold your ground, let them know to go rip someone else off.
[QUOTE=MacSaladNoise;7251067]Everyone wants a $40 drink, even the DJ and kitchen mama.[/QUOTE]And the problem is so many of us are willing to do it. That's why they keep asking for and getting them. No longer for me.
[QUOTE=TheThinker808;7251474]I'm not going to lie this has generally been almost every Korean bar I have gone too. No play at all unless you "invest" in a KBG which is what even came out of the mouth of one I was sitting with.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've heard the same thing. By "invest," it means to take them out to lunch or dinner whenever they want, almost always to high end places; buy them expensive jewelry, clothes, purses, etc.; and be willing to pay for anything and everything for them, even their groceries and their kid's / kids' tuition. All the while, claiming that they hardly have any income (because they don't pay taxes on all that cash rolling in), and scamming real taxpayers for SNAP, Medicaid, and other freebees. Of course, they "don't" have money to take care of their debts, but they have money to play on the gambling machines, buy Rolexes, Mercedes-Benzes / Lexuses / Audis, and dresses from Neiman Marcus and Bloomingdales.
[QUOTE=RoyBoy808;7251671]Where can you go for $20 drinks?[/QUOTE]You can go anywhere for $20 drinks, but you're going to be paying for water, tea, or a non-alcoholic beer.
[QUOTE=Pueo808;7251840]And the problem is so many of us are willing to do it. That's why they keep asking for and getting them. No longer for me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HMobius;7251822]Hold your ground, let them know to go rip someone else off.[/QUOTE]Bingo!
Buying high-priced drinks for little or nothing of value in exchange sure isn't an essential expenditure.
As recently posted in another thread:
[QUOTE=Redneck1;7236262]As long as a sufficient number of submissive customers are willing to obediently pay higher prices, a provider can try to maximize profits. On the other hand, if a sufficient number of resolute customers refuse to pay higher prices, prices would eventually be reduced.
Customers ultimately hold the economic power if they're willing to come together and use it. The marketers of Bud Light beer certainly learned that lesson (smile).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pueo808;7251842]Of course, they "don't" have money to take care of their debts, but they have money to play on the gambling machines, buy Rolexes, Mercedes-Benzes / Lexuses / Audis, and dresses from Neiman Marcus and Bloomingdales.[/QUOTE]Of course the KBGs stay so poor things but live high-end (courtesy of the Loverboys (LVBs) that adore them). I think the KBGs also into drugs (for keep them skinny) and gamble for health reasons (cognitive exercise).
[QUOTE=MitsFunai;7251974]Of course the KBGs stay so poor things but live high-end (courtesy of the Loverboys (LVBs) that adore them). I think the KBGs also into drugs (for keep them skinny) and gamble for health reasons (cognitive exercise).[/QUOTE]The LVBs are the problem and why these money traps stay open. I admit, I was one of them, but no longer. Gentlemen, get smart. Stop feeding these sharks.