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I know admin doesn't like discussion about race preference. I respect that because it does seem to start flame wars due to it being a sensitive subject. When it comes to the hobby and the ladies, I base my preference on performance. I just can't stand the ladies who want to get paid, but yet their performance is horrid. Regardless of their ethnicity, that's what I base who I will be donating to cause on.

Most of the ladies who advertise "NBA" do not get my donation. Because in my experience they either are awful in the sack or are pulling some scam. Not all of them are like that just most that I've encountered or read about. I've been told by other ladies that their sponsors make them advertise this way or they don't want the large sausage. Most all the ladies do not like the aggressiveness of younger males regardless of color. Either way, its their preference market to and see who they like. It's our time, money, and our preference to pick who we want to see. Some of us like different things in our ladies. Mine is performance as well as the "spinner" type. So I look for good reviews and performance.

[QUOTE=BlackIron;2424669]I'm not saying it's limited to St Louis. I do see it more here. When I've hobbied in Memphis, New Orleans, Chicago, Norfolk, LA and Atlanta it wasn't as pronounced as you see it here.[/QUOTE]Indeed, I'm from the east coast and never even saw the phrase NBA in NY, DC or Boston until I moved here.

[QUOTE=Stlhustla;2424504]Funny, right after replying to your post, I went to the general section and saw this report:

Pimp in the mirror.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEs...image=16164482[/URL]

I wonder if she has management? Amazing!

If you click the "Back To Ad", you see she lists "NO AA".

So if that is her pimp. He is a black guy, and he's cool with her not seeing black guys. WTF![/QUOTE]I'll make this my last post, so we're not tying up the thread with this conversation but I wish I would have prefaced my original comment by saying I'm not implying that I have the answers. I can only speculate like everyone else and request feedback from the girls.

In regards to the black pimp, here's a story. There's a 19 year old Named Sofia that was around for a couple of months. I saw her when she first started. A couple of mouths later I called her again, this time I notice the no black men statement in the ad. I didn't think anything about it since I'd seen her before. I call her and go to in call. When I call to tell her I'm there, she ask my race. I tell her and she tells me that she can't see me. I go on to explain that she's seen me before, she told me she remembered me and said but I still can't see you.

I hang up and while still in the hotel parking lot, I get back online to see if I can find something else. A few minutes later I see a car existing the parking lot and she is in the passenger seat. The driver, a black guy who look like he was in his 30's. Was it her pimp? I would guess yes. The point? I've heard a lot of these girls that say no black men, actually have black pimps! LOL.

Like I said I don't have the answers, I have my theories. I know it sucks to be excluded but I just try to be safe and enjoy this hobby. Like the rest of the world, in some ways it's fucked up but there's enough good in it to keep you wanting to keep going.

[QUOTE=BlackIron;2424761]I'll make this my last post, so we're not tying up the thread with this conversation but I wish I would have prefaced my original comment by saying I'm not implying that I have the answers. I can only speculate like everyone else and request feedback from the girls.

In regards to the black pimp, here's a story. There's a 19 year old Named Sofia that was around for a couple of months. I saw her when she first started. A couple of mouths later I called her again, this time I notice the no black men statement in the ad. I didn't think anything about it since I'd seen her before. I call her and go to in call. When I call to tell her I'm there, she ask my race. I tell her and she tells me that she can't see me. I go on to explain that she's seen me before, she told me she remembered me and said but I still can't see you.

I hang up and while still in the hotel parking lot, I get back online to see if I can find something else. A few minutes later I see a car existing the parking lot and she is in the passenger seat. The driver, a black guy who look like he was in his 30's. Was it her pimp? I would guess yes. The point? I've heard a lot of these girls that say no black men, actually have black pimps! LOL.

Like I said I don't have the answers, I have my theories. I know it sucks to be excluded but I just try to be safe and enjoy this hobby. Like the rest of the world, in some ways it's fucked up but there's enough good in it to keep you wanting to keep going.[/QUOTE]I am not surprised. The pimps don't want competition. Racists or not, most if not all of the pimps in this area are black (or female), and so without knowing which are and which aren't, they are not taking their chances and just eliminate the possibility of a competitor coming in and stealing one of their girls.

There was a girl a couple years ago, Dora I think, who was new to BP and I was one of the first, if not the first to see her. She told me a week later that she had to take her ad down because she had a number of black guys come see her and try to 'recruit' her to work for them.

Some threatened her physically, some threatened to get on 'local boards' and tell people she was STD positive, a scammer, anything to kill her ability to make money, some threatened to call the police and get her arrested, and others told her they had a large following on the boards and a bad review would kill her business too.

She told me not one white guy did anything close to that to her, and never really even tried to negotiate with her on the already cheap price (150 if I recall). She decided that her well being was more important than making easy money and I never saw her post again.

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]372789[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Another TS girl.

[QUOTE=BlackIron;2424437]LOL! It's pretty fucked up, when even the black girls are posting no black men in their ads. I've come up with 1 or 2 answers. 1- there are a lot of guys that share our skin tone and hair texture doing some REALLY fucked up shit to these girls or 2- it makes the girl seem more exclusive to say she don't fuck black guys.

One girl who post that she don't see black guys, (I see a lot of girls that post that they don't see black guys) said, over 90% of the people she see are older white males and if you see 1 black guy and have a bad experience, it make you feel like there's no point in taking the risk. You're not losing much by excluding us because they don't see many black men anyway.

As I mentioned at least half the girls that post no black men, see me anyway because they say I "seem" ok, when I talk to them. The others, they mean that shit. They don't fuck black men (PERIOD).

Crazy thing though, I get around and I see this way more in St. Louis than I do any where else I've hobbied.

The black girls, I don't know if it's too make them seen more exclusive or what. It may be for the same reason I don't call black girls. I know if I call a black girl I drastically increase the odds of seeing someone that know who I am or know someone that know me, so I don't do it.[/QUOTE]Don't feel bad Bro, I'm dealing with the same thing down here in Florida. I have been with some girls that are now regulars and they have started saying they don't see AA men either. But the crazy thing is, they still see me. So, I don't know what the hell is going on. Anyhow, happy hunting.

Thanks:/ meh

[QUOTE=Bill20;2424893]Another TS girl.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BlackIron;2424761]A few minutes later I see a car existing the parking lot and she is in the passenger seat. The driver, a black guy who look like he was in his 30's. Was it her pimp? I would guess yes. The point? I've heard a lot of these girls that say no black men, actually have black pimps! LOL.
[/QUOTE]To put it simply, this is the answer. Had this discussion about 2 years ago all comments were removed by admin as racist. There is a second part of this answer. I was told directly by a provider that more than once a prospective client of african american descent has upon arrival turned out to be a pimp on a recruiting mission. Not that this is dangerous for her, but she viewed it as money lost where she could have had a paying client instead. She simply did not want to run the risk wasting valuable time dodging recruiting pimps instead of making money. Apparently old white men are the safest bet around.

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I'm a sucker for spinners. Seen this ad a few times this yr, but this is the first time I have seen a face pic. This young lady was one of the first people I visited after my move here a yr ago. A lot could change in a yr. The incall was in a cul-de-sac in north county. Led me to the back door of a house (late night). Proceeded to basement. Mattress on floor in front of a mirror (only thing visible) began with decent BBBJ then proceeded to FS. About 5 minutes or so into FS (she was riding) got up and went upstairs (said she was coning back. My paranoid ass moved to the side of the stairs. Came back like, "why arent you dressed?" Was a bit confused, asked her why and she said oh we're done. She didn't move from there staircase at all. Got dressed quickly. Checked for phone and got out of there.

Again, alot could change in a yr but I personally would not repeat. Damage $.

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Contacted Lori last night to set up an appointment at her incall location. Agreed on a time and donation for her time and off I went. She told me to txt her once I am 5 minutes away from her location. When I got about 5 minutes out I sent her a txt and got no response. Pulled into the parking lot and sent another txt letting her know that I have arrived. She didn't respond to that txt either so I waited about 15 minutes and left. Still haven't receive a txt from her about missing our agreed upon appointment time.

[QUOTE=MerryCool;2425538][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-betmoaning-mondaygreat-pecialstasty-treatluscious-lipsgreat-pleaure/15815126[/URL]

I'm a sucker for spinners. Seen this ad a few times this yr, but this is the first time I have seen a face pic. This young lady was one of the first people I visited after my move here a yr ago. A lot could change in a yr. The incall was in a cul-de-sac in north county. Led me to the back door of a house (late night). Proceeded to basement. Mattress on floor in front of a mirror (only thing visible) began with decent BBBJ then proceeded to FS. About 5 minutes or so into FS (she was riding) got up and went upstairs (said she was coning back. My paranoid ass moved to the side of the stairs. Came back like, "why arent you dressed?" Was a bit confused, asked her why and she said oh we're done. She didn't move from there staircase at all. Got dressed quickly. Checked for phone and got out of there.

Again, alot could change in a yr but I personally would not repeat. Damage $.[/QUOTE]Good report. That's what this board is all about.

[QUOTE=ThePhenom120;2425286]Don't feel bad Bro, I'm dealing with the same thing down here in Florida. I have been with some girls that are now regulars and they have started saying they don't see AA men either. But the crazy thing is, they still see me. So, I don't know what the hell is going on. Anyhow, happy hunting.[/QUOTE]You were grandfathered in. .

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Ho.

[QUOTE=NotDave;2422025]The problem is everyone has bad days and we never know how it is going to go. I prefer to withhold fees until afterwards. That way they can easily be adjusted up or down. Keeping it fair is important for all involved.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I understand why the girls want their money up front. They get ripped off all the time by guys who cum and dash, so it's not fair to insist on "withholding fees until afterwards". The good ones have good reviews and it's pretty easy to count on at least a decent job. I never tip till the end though.

First visit with Vicky in St Chuck. She has a parlor in small strip mall with nice table set up. Massage was about 30 minutes and OK. Then the flip and she asks if I want oral. She removed all clothing and roaming hands were allowed. She asked if I wanted a condom, referring to FS. She is in her fifties and carries a "pooch". Nice TA's for older lady.

100 with 20 tip. Will repeat.

[QUOTE=HoHoHoes;2426505][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-sexy-college-girll/14563329[/URL]

Ho.[/QUOTE]Wow hopefully someone can provide some Intel!!

[QUOTE=HoHoHoes;2426505][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-sexy-college-girll/14563329[/URL]

Ho.[/QUOTE]I was able to find one review on another site. I don't know the guy, but he confirmed that the pics ARE NOT her, but she was 'slender and good looking'. He rated the experience 'so so'.

Having seen these photos everywhere I can attest they are stolen, fakes!

[QUOTE=HoHoHoes;2426505][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sweet-sexy-college-girll/14563329[/URL]

Ho.[/QUOTE]

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TOFTT. NOT the woman in the pics. More like a red-headed troll hiding under the bridge; probably closer to 60 than 30. She opened the door, I walked away. Yikes!

[QUOTE=TcMarmy;2427372][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/rainy-day-woman-waitng-for-you/16151806[/URL]

TOFTT. NOT the woman in the pics. More like a red-headed troll hiding under the bridge; probably closer to 60 than 30. She opened the door, I walked away. Yikes![/QUOTE]Thank you. I was really diggin the look. Nearly bit today.

[QUOTE=RocketmanStl;2422858]I have to agree with Ritewing and Donny on Aspen. I got an average massage with a lot of strange conversation. The experience was just a little off. I will say the HE with her on the end of the table was spectacular.[/QUOTE]Decided to see Aspen today and I must say the experience was remarkable!! Her massage skills were much improved, with some very nice teasing and the ending was awesome. The conversation was less than before and seemed normal. Maybe she took some constructive feedback from you guys. Based on today's performance, I will rate Aspen much higher on my list and will definitely repeat. PM me if you want details.

[QUOTE=Drillermann55;2426972]First visit with Vicky in St Chuck. She has a parlor in small strip mall with nice table set up. Massage was about 30 minutes and OK. Then the flip and she asks if I want oral. She removed all clothing and roaming hands were allowed. She asked if I wanted a condom, referring to FS. She is in her fifties and carries a "pooch". Nice TA's for older lady.

100 with 20 tip. Will repeat.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link or her contact info? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Purry;2427635]Do you have a link or her contact info? Thanks.[/QUOTE]She advertises on backpage under massage. Relaxation the power of touch. Older lady but will get the job done. YMMV. Everything on the menu.

Gentlemen:

There is a good chance that I will be spending some time in your fair city soon. I am planning to start browsing the posts here, but would greatly appreciate any information that you all are willing to give me in advance! Best street crawls, anyone on BP to avoid, etc.

Thanks in advance, and I will gladly share info about Milwaukee if any of you head up here!

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I called and the lady that answered seemed extremely nice although I got a strange vibe. Anyone know them?

[QUOTE=GRMan42;2427950]Gentlemen:

There is a good chance that I will be spending some time in your fair city soon. I am planning to start browsing the posts here, but would greatly appreciate any information that you all are willing to give me in advance! Best street crawls, anyone on BP to avoid, etc.

Thanks in advance, and I will gladly share info about Milwaukee if any of you head up here![/QUOTE]This may help a touch:

[URL]http://zz63111.wiki-site.com/[/URL]

Anyone know if Michelle is still around? Saw her last summer in her apartment in St Peter's and had a fun time but haven't seen a post in awhile. She was early 30's, blonde hair, husband usually home. Any info would be appreciated.

Has anyone seen her since her return. She had some bad press previously. [URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/daniim-waiting-for-you-to-callwednesday-night-special/15626835[/URL].

Any intel on this Latina? Is she real or fake?

Senior members please help.

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I have been trading e-mails with this gal / guy this week, and before I pull the trigger I thought I would ask for advice. While I will definitely request a genital pic, I want to know if you guys see an Adam's apple and a hint of man-hands covering herself? PM me or blast it out.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lady-lei-your-elite-tantric-experience-april-26-29-book-now/8616734[/URL]

Her web-site: [URL]www.mygoddessleianna.com[/URL].

Thanks! RocketmanSTL.

[QUOTE=RocketmanStl;2428890]I have been trading e-mails with this gal / guy this week, and before I pull the trigger I thought I would ask for advice. While I will definitely request a genital pic, I want to know if you guys see an Adam's apple and a hint of man-hands covering herself? PM me or blast it out.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lady-lei-your-elite-tantric-experience-april-26-29-book-now/8616734[/URL]

Her web-site: [URL]www.mygoddessleianna.com[/URL].

Thanks! RocketmanSTL.[/QUOTE]Notice how the crotch is hidden cleverly in every shot. The zebra bikini pic on the backpage ad clearly has an adams apple, plus the man nips and he's ugly. Better to be had out there bro.

Be safe, have fun!

[QUOTE=Rick143;2428836]Any intel on this Latina? Is she real or fake?

Senior members please help.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/topnotch-latina-big-booty-habloespanol/15126991[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks fake.

[QUOTE=Stlguy83;2428088][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/49ddbrunettand-new-411-cutie-200for2girlhr-asmany-times-asu-can-we-will4-nothing-xtra-7am-6pm-daily/15607650[/URL]

I called and the lady that answered seemed extremely nice although I got a strange vibe. Anyone know them?[/QUOTE]They are legit.

Nothing strange, LOL out of the ordinary. 2 Girls with very large naturals. So with that math, 4 big tits. I use to see the dark haired lady about once a month. Just got tired of the same ol. Did a double with her and the blonde friend about six months ago. All on table except kissing and greek as far as I received. They work out of a normal middle class home very close to CaseyVille, IL Very full service though, 120 to 150 roses about the cheapest you can get from my experiences. The clearer images are the real pics, the fuzzy images are either fake or very old. If you enjoy bigguns, they will more than wet your whistle.

I saw this young lady this morning and her pics are very accurate. Nice spinner, little perky on top. Very clean and refreshed and nice and laid back. She dresses is nice outfits and really wants to please. If she gets to know you, it gets better and better. She's knda new to this so a little nervous at first until she gets to know you. Easy txt or call set up system and at a nice location by the highway. My recommendation is to definitely give her a try. I plan on going back for more!

Fellas, she is absolutely 100% a woman. I assure you. LOL. Normally I would just PM the op, but we don't want our paranoia to put out bad info. She is expensive, pics while certainly real, are a little younger looking than what you will actually see. She is older than 48. Just trying to help.

[QUOTE=Stlffej;2429157]Notice how the crotch is hidden cleverly in every shot. The zebra bikini pic on the backpage ad clearly has an adams apple, plus the man nips and he's ugly. Better to be had out there bro.

Be safe, have fun![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stlguy83;2428088][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/49ddbrunettand-new-411-cutie-200for2girlhr-asmany-times-asu-can-we-will4-nothing-xtra-7am-6pm-daily/15607650[/URL]

I called and the lady that answered seemed extremely nice although I got a strange vibe. Anyone know them?[/QUOTE]Yes, I have, and please save your time, the pics are about 26 years old, and about 50-60 lbs ago.

[QUOTE=Stlguy83;2428088][URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/49ddbrunettand-new-411-cutie-200for2girlhr-asmany-times-asu-can-we-will4-nothing-xtra-7am-6pm-daily/15607650[/URL]

I called and the lady that answered seemed extremely nice although I got a strange vibe. Anyone know them?[/QUOTE]She is a little strange on the phone.

I went to see her when she was doing 2 girl with a blonde named Summer. Summer was hot and I enjoyed her. The Brunette will suck and fuck the shit out of you but she shows the mileage. I would repeat with summer but not the brunette. There are better options for the money.

Be Safe.

SoBo.

I met this young lady at her incall location in the South County area. Very nice and sweet. Pics are accurate. She's a real spinner type with perky a-cups. Very clean, and friendly. Laid back, not a clock watcher, and eager to please! She's new to this scene and wants to learn how to satisfy. Easy set up by text / call. Nice location. Would highly recommend and will repeat.

I forgot to mention, she has some very sexy outfits and meets you at the door looking extremely hott. Give her a try, and welcome her to St. Louis.