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[QUOTE=Stevemilw67;2603219]TIFWIW. She's totally non GFE. Latest review has to be a fake. Crappy attitude, all covered, minimal kissing if any. All for 300! I have found that any girl from the bunny ranch has an over inflated value of themselves. Good for them, but not on my dollar.
S.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. I've moved on. To many uncertainties.
Weird story that makes me think of 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. I saw an ad on CL or BP awhile back and have kept in touch with her for the last 2-3 months. It finally worked to meet up and when she sent me the address it was vaguely familiar. Right on 13th somewhere between number 2000 and 3000. Sure enough when I started walking to the house I remembered it's where I saw Alex (or some call her Allie or Ally. A spinner that was at one time the best bargain in MKE in my opinion) a couple years ago. Come to find out, Alex rents from the lady I got my massage from (Dee, the or Daphne) but Alex got Dee into the biz. Makes me wonder how many degrees I'm away from some of my fellow mongers. LOL.
[QUOTE=Fanofhg22;2609479]Weird story that makes me think of 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon. I saw an ad on CL or BP awhile back and have kept in touch with her for the last 2-3 months. It finally worked to meet up and when she sent me the address it was vaguely familiar. Right on 13th somewhere between number 2000 and 3000. Sure enough when I started walking to the house I remembered it's where I saw Alex (or some call her Allie or Ally. A spinner that was at one time the best bargain in MKE in my opinion) a couple years ago. Come to find out, Alex rents from the lady I got my massage from (Dee, the or Daphne) but Alex got Dee into the biz. Makes me wonder how many degrees I'm away from some of my fellow mongers. LOL.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience as you. Saw Alex first and then months later I saw Dee. I haven't talked to Alex in quite a while, is she still active?
[QUOTE=Sinlover;2609522]I had the same experience as you. Saw Alex first and then months later I saw Dee. I haven't talked to Alex in quite a while, is she still active?[/QUOTE]I believe she is not. I think she got engaged and since then she is offline.
[QUOTE=FerrariForMe;2602822]Trying to set something up with her and some of the reviews on the oTHeR site say she doesn't kiss. I asked her if she was GFE she replied LGFE, kiss at her discretion. Would like to see her but for 300 I would expect GFE. Does she want to make sure I'm not a slob or does it depend on her mood? I can handle the 1st, because I'm not.
I don't have a link, just google her name. She has a add up on BP today.[/QUOTE]It's definitely a hygiene issue and committing to such activity has hurt me in the past. Not a slob no worries.
Xo.
Ks.
We all know many providers aren't rocket scientists or mathematicians, so the ads they write can be humorous.
I especially liked Jammie, who wrote the following:
"I do not discriminate, my only request is that you are well groomed! And absolutely no black men. ".
She obviously missed school the day they taught the definition of discrimination.
[URL]http://milwaukee.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-ultimate-bombshell-pecials-available/12163197[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sinlover;2619039]We all know many providers aren't rocket scientists or mathematicians, so the ads they write can be humorous.I especially liked Jammie, who wrote the following:"I do not discriminate, my only request is that you are well groomed! And absolutely no black men. ".She obviously missed school the day they taught the definition of discrimination.[URL]http://milwaukee.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-ultimate-bombshell-pecials-available/12163197[/URL][/QUOTE]And I'll bet that she doesn't come to the door also. She missed church the day when they taught you not to tell lies.
[QUOTE=Sinlover;2619039]We all know many providers aren't rocket scientists or mathematicians, so the ads they write can be humorous.
I especially liked Jammie, who wrote the following:
"I do not discriminate, my only request is that you are well groomed! And absolutely no black men. ".
She obviously missed school the day they taught the definition of discrimination.
[URL]http://milwaukee.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-ultimate-bombshell-pecials-available/12163197[/URL][/QUOTE]Unless she is really Playboy model Jordan Ashley, disguising herself as an escort named Jammie.
Her is something we all should watch out for, they are selling reviews her is the link.
[URL]http://providerrep.com/[/URL]
Guys be safe out there and don't alway believe what you read.
[QUOTE=StripClubDude;2629263][B]New Monger Website?[/B]
Did anyone else get an invite PM to some new monger website?[/QUOTE]I checked it out, but found the Wisconsin info be to slim.
Nothing better than a 19 yr goth girl, long hair wearing a skull cap walking up your driveway for a visit. Tatted up, piercings, etc. In every way not my type. Except she was skinny.
Just stunk from tobacco. Been in rehab. Daughter of some old hag that rejected me. She's not on SA or SD but is friends of a few heroin heads who are. All I did was come out and ask. She said ok, and she'd be over in 20 minutes. Fine, I'll take your strung out daughter instead. She did a fine job. When I had her in doggy I asked if I could do anal.
She replied, ok just use lube and go slow. Wow! I was all set to hear "no way man. " About 30 seconds into that and I was a gonner. After the pull out she belted a pretty good fart. And there were a few skidmarks on the cover.
Her mom is 4 blocks away and she crashes there when she had no place to go. Glad I ran into her on the street. You just never know. And if you don't ask, you know what the answer will be.
Her mom is a skinny 58 year old butter face with a gravely voice. Can't believe her mom turned me down. WTF? Looks like BP Linda / Christine but the mom is a spinner. Sits on her front porch looking at her phone most of the day.
Guess I like the kind I will not get emotionally attached to.
I have a few business trips scheduled over the next few months and wanted to see what was happening in some of the cities that I am going to be staying in. One of these towns is Cincinnatti and my first trip to the BP ads opened my eyes. Not only do they seems to have more real ads, the quality seems to me much higher than in Milwaukee. I have nothing against AA ladies, but the ratio of AA ladies in Milwaukee seems to be very high relative to the overall population. Not so in Cincinnatti where they have ladies of all races and ages. I do tend to like ladies that are at least in their later 20's and up and the mix there is great.
Why is Milwaukee so different??
Has anyone used this site and if so, have you had any luck? A lot of familiar faces, but a lot of new ones too. I was traveling this week and it seems to be a popular site where I was.
Escort [URL]browser.com[/URL].
I believe a few of us have TOFTT with Sarah, the cute legit masseuse with the incall near Miller Park. Has anyone broken any new ground with her? I've been trying to schedule a follow-up appointment, with little success. I'm wondering if we all scared her away.
[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2636311]I believe a few of us have TOFTT with Sarah, the cute legit masseuse with the incall near Miller Park. Has anyone broken any new ground with her? I've been trying to schedule a follow-up appointment, with little success. I'm wondering if we all scared her away.[/QUOTE]She told me her living situation has changed therefore can only do outcalls.
[QUOTE=Waldo999;2634176]I have a few business trips scheduled over the next few months and wanted to see what was happening in some of the cities that I am going to be staying in. One of these towns is Cincinnatti and my first trip to the BP ads opened my eyes. Not only do they seems to have more real ads, the quality seems to me much higher than in Milwaukee. I have nothing against AA ladies, but the ratio of AA ladies in Milwaukee seems to be very high relative to the overall population. Not so in Cincinnatti where they have ladies of all races and ages. I do tend to like ladies that are at least in their later 20's and up and the mix there is great.
Why is Milwaukee so different??[/QUOTE]No definitive answers! Remember, Milw is a short hop from Chicago so AA and other girls travel back and forth on the booty circuit. There are no comparable cities like Chicago in Ohio period. Northern Kentucky may provide a few girls to the mix. Perhaps dudes in Milw like more chocolate than in Cinn. Who knows but consumers drive the booty trade.
[QUOTE=FerrariForMe;2634257]Has anyone used this site and if so, have you had any luck? A lot of familiar faces, but a lot of new ones too. I was traveling this week and it seems to be a popular site where I was.
[URL]Escortbrowser.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]I would guess sites like that are purely derivative of BP. Providers post their ads to BP. Sites like this slurp BP ads and display them without attribution. The difference is probably that when an ad rolls off BP, the derivative site doesn't remove it, so it tends to have "more" than BP.
[QUOTE=Waldo999;2634176]I have a few business trips scheduled over the next few months and wanted to see what was happening in some of the cities that I am going to be staying in. One of these towns is Cincinnatti and my first trip to the BP ads opened my eyes. Not only do they seems to have more real ads, the quality seems to me much higher than in Milwaukee. I have nothing against AA ladies, but the ratio of AA ladies in Milwaukee seems to be very high relative to the overall population. Not so in Cincinnatti where they have ladies of all races and ages. I do tend to like ladies that are at least in their later 20's and up and the mix there is great.
Why is Milwaukee so different??[/QUOTE]Haven't looked at Cinci BP, but I have noticed a few cuties that advertise on the classifieds here. Have even thought of maybe making a road trip for a few days to sample the local fare.
[QUOTE=FerrariForMe;2602822]Trying to set something up with her and some of the reviews on the oTHeR site say she doesn't kiss. I asked her if she was GFE she replied LGFE, kiss at her discretion. Would like to see her but for 300 I would expect GFE. Does she want to make sure I'm not a slob or does it depend on her mood? I can handle the 1st, because I'm not.
I don't have a link, just google her name. She has a add up on BP today.[/QUOTE]That if I'm not comfortable with your hygiene I have the option of passing without breaking a commitment. For the safety of both of us, everything is covered.
Xoxo.
Ks.
[QUOTE=FerrariForMe;2602822]Trying to set something up with her and some of the reviews on the oTHeR site say she doesn't kiss. I asked her if she was GFE she replied LGFE, kiss at her discretion. Would like to see her but for 300 I would expect GFE. Does she want to make sure I'm not a slob or does it depend on her mood? I can handle the 1st, because I'm not.
I don't have a link, just google her name. She has a add up on BP today.[/QUOTE]That is just in case I'm not comfortable with your hygiene I have the option of passing without breaking a commitment. For the safety of both of us, everything is covered.
Xoxo.
Ks.
I am passing along a little information. A southside SW named Angel is looking for new hookups. She is not an attractive lady but certainly can do the trick in a pinch. A few guys have reported on her relating to their cruising the southside. She has her own place and can host. You could probably see her for a quite reasonable donation.
SF.
I really wanted to try a new provider today. I tried to set up an appointment with one by email. She asked me what time. I gave her a time within an hour and she never got back to me. So I took a ride with a list of 6 providers that all posted today. Four of them did not answer, and the other two told me to call them when I was close. When I was close I called, and neither of them answered. I don't get it. Are they all so busy?? I guess I will have to give one of the old reliables a call tomorrow. Very frustating!
[QUOTE=Outfishing;2640331]I really wanted to try a new provider today. I tried to set up an appointment with one by email. She asked me what time. I gave her a time within an hour and she never got back to me. So I took a ride with a list of 6 providers that all posted today. Four of them did not answer, and the other two told me to call them when I was close. When I was close I called, and neither of them answered. I don't get it. Are they all so busy?? I guess I will have to give one of the old reliables a call tomorrow. Very frustating![/QUOTE]Got stood up by 2 providers yesterday. Same deal. Text back and forth. Get to the neighborhood then nothing. And what's with THEM having to verify ME?
[QUOTE=SoccerFan4245;2638649]I am passing along a little information. A southside SW named Angel is looking for new hookups. She is not an attractive lady but certainly can do the trick in a pinch. A few guys have reported on her relating to their cruising the southside. She has her own place and can host. You could probably see her for a quite reasonable donation.
SF.[/QUOTE]Sexiest thing a gurl can put behind her ears. Her feet.
Thats skank apeal. If you pm info to my regular member ass I will report.
[QUOTE=ShortIrish;2640443]Got stood up by 2 providers yesterday. Same deal. Text back and forth. Get to the neighborhood then nothing. And what's with THEM having to verify ME?[/QUOTE]Well then tell us who they are so we aren't wasting our time also. That's how this board is suppose to work. Don't just complain about them. Let others mongers know who they are.
Like many of you, I have become increasingly frustrated with the growing number of providers who don't answer their phones or return voicemails. Back in the 80's, when the hobby was controlled by agencies, there were a large number of high quality, dependable providers who were available during the daytime, regular business hours for married guys who can't go out at night. With a few exceptions, I'd have to say that BP is the worst thing that ever happened to the hobby. There's no way to screen out the undesireables, the scammers, the STD infected, and the unreliable. I can't understand why a provider will put herself out there and then not respond to phone calls. And as I've said before on here, responsible people don't text, they talk to one another. Walk into any bar or restaurant and what are the young females doing, texting. They are terrified of face to face communication or speaking to someone on the phone. No wonder they fail. Successful business people adjust their schedules to meet the needs of their clients. They respond quickly to client phone calls. These are concepts that young providers can't seem to grasp.
[QUOTE=ShortIrish;2640443]Got stood up by 2 providers yesterday. Same deal. Text back and forth. Get to the neighborhood then nothing. And what's with THEM having to verify ME?[/QUOTE]Just my two cents, but I think that some guys are not taking full advantage of this board. It has been at least three years since I went on a cold call. When I read a monger review of a girl that I want to see, I'll pm the monger asking if I can use his first name. Then, when I call the girl, I'll introduce myself and tell her I was referred by Dave or Jim, or Jay or whatever the monger's first name happened to be. I have found that this greatly reduces the provider's tendency to blow me off as a faceless new guy. It also reduces or eliminates first date awkwardness and chemistry issues. It is a win-win because the next time Dave or Jim or Jay visit this provider, she knows that if he has a really good time, he will tell his friends.
This is based purely on my experience, I would be interested in the experience of others.
[QUOTE=Packerfann53;2641214]Like many of you, I have become increasingly frustrated with the growing number of providers who don't answer their phones or return voicemails. Back in the 80's, when the hobby was controlled by agencies, there were a large number of high quality, dependable providers who were available during the daytime, regular business hours for married guys who can't go out at night. With a few exceptions, I'd have to say that BP is the worst thing that ever happened to the hobby. There's no way to screen out the undesireables, the scammers, the STD infected, and the unreliable. I can't understand why a provider will put herself out there and then not respond to phone calls. And as I've said before on here, responsible people don't text, they talk to one another. Walk into any bar or restaurant and what are the young females doing, texting. They are terrified of face to face communication or speaking to someone on the phone. No wonder they fail. Successful business people adjust their schedules to meet the needs of their clients. They respond quickly to client phone calls. These are concepts that young providers can't seem to grasp.[/QUOTE]Texting is a convenient way to communicate. It's a direct, Q&A forum for getting information quickly and concisely. There is no need for these girls to interact socially with people that they want minimal contact with in the first place. Many of these girls want a high turnover maximum profit operation, some have a problem with basic communication, let alone social niceties. The other problem, in my opinion, is that if you are detained by LE, they have a concrete idea of not only that two parties have been in contact, but that they know exactly what your conversation was and that you possibly conspired to break the law. So if you do text, the same rules apply as when you have a conversation with them. Until the rubber hits the road, stay vague. One or both parties can say a phone call was anything, a wrong number or even retain their right to remain silent. A text is a license for LE to "listen in" to your conversation. I'm not a lawyer, but I get it when certain providers say they won't text, and I imagine that that is the reason. I could be wrong.
Not sure if this is legit but while researching a number I saw on CL I came across this site. Hopefully it helps.
[URL]http://www.fightthescams.com/2015/05/29/fake-sex-ads-on-craigslist/[/URL]
Still debating the need for a monger phone? Think GoogleVoice is good enough?
Read the discussion on the BP Advertiser forum for more on this:
[URL]http://fox6now.com/2015/10/20/man-shot-killed-inside-home-near-appleton-and-melvina-no-suspects-in-custody[/URL]
You don't think they are going to go through call logs on cell phones? Google Voice will turn over there records easily.
The moral of the story is GET A BURNER / MONGER / THROWAWAY PHONE.
[QUOTE=SoccerFan4245;2638649]I am passing along a little information. A southside SW named Angel is looking for new hookups. She is not an attractive lady but certainly can do the trick in a pinch. A few guys have reported on her relating to their cruising the southside. She has her own place and can host. You could probably see her for a quite reasonable donation.
SF.[/QUOTE]Gave her a call a few weeks ago, we agreed on a price, I gave her my address and she said she would be here in 30 min. ***** never showed. My time is fucking valuable. If I ever do see her I'm going to take it out on her nasty style. I don't appreciate these lying ass hoes. I aint the one.
[QUOTE=Outfishing;2640331]I really wanted to try a new provider today. I tried to set up an appointment with one by email. She asked me what time. I gave her a time within an hour and she never got back to me. So I took a ride with a list of 6 providers that all posted today. Four of them did not answer, and the other two told me to call them when I was close. When I was close I called, and neither of them answered. I don't get it. Are they all so busy?? I guess I will have to give one of the old reliables a call tomorrow. Very frustating![/QUOTE]Dude never fall for the give me a call when you get close bullshit. Whenever you hear that just abort immediately.
Angel told me a guy called from the forum. She was supposed to walk to his house off of Oklahoma. She said she wrote the address down but lost it. She she tried to back track her steps but couldn't find the paper. She asked if I had a way of reaching you. I had no idea since I didn't know who she talked to. She is not one to blow guys off so ease up on the anger issues. What she lacks in looks, she makes up for in availability. How many of the hoes will actually be willing to walk to your house? She doesn't have a car. Her issue is she is clumsy I guess.
[QUOTE=Outfishing;2640331]I really wanted to try a new provider today. I tried to set up an appointment with one by email. She asked me what time. I gave her a time within an hour and she never got back to me. So I took a ride with a list of 6 providers that all posted today. Four of them did not answer, and the other two told me to call them when I was close. When I was close I called, and neither of them answered. I don't get it. Are they all so busy?? I guess I will have to give one of the old reliables a call tomorrow. Very frustating![/QUOTE]I took a provider out to dinner a few weeks ago and gained some insight into this issue. Because of the high rate of no-show appointments and the fact that there is no penalty on the monger side for a no-show the provider would always respond as available and would sometimes have several mongers on their way at once. The 'call when you get close' is the point when you will discover her actual availability. The compounding issue is that providers handle their own communications so if they are with a client or otherwise indisposed they are not available to communicate with inbound mongers. The provider in question did acknowledge the issue but she estimated she had more than 2 no-shows for each monger she stood up. And about half of the stood up mongers were still salvageable even after they got sick of waiting and left.
Tldr: We did this to ourselves by standing them so much that now they overbook and bump appointmens with no contact if someone else beats you in.
[QUOTE=JackFlack;2657218]I took a provider out to dinner a few weeks ago and gained some insight into this issue. Because of the high rate of no-show appointments and the fact that there is no penalty on the monger side for a no-show the provider would always respond as available and would sometimes have several mongers on their way at once. The 'call when you get close' is the point when you will discover her actual availability. The compounding issue is that providers handle their own communications so if they are with a client or otherwise indisposed they are not available to communicate with inbound mongers. The provider in question did acknowledge the issue but she estimated she had more than 2 no-shows for each monger she stood up. And about half of the stood up mongers were still salvageable even after they got sick of waiting and left.
Tldr: We did this to ourselves by standing them so much that now they overbook and bump appointmens with no contact if someone else beats you in.[/QUOTE]The provider is responsible for her action. They may have more clients if they didn't worry about who shows or not, put up in better areas, make us feel more comfortable about them being real etc. In selling things, your stood up about 50 to 75% of the time, that's sales if they can't deal with that to bad get out of the business or change there business model. They should read up on getting thoughs appointments to show up, it about marketing themself.
A lot of the time, pic's are fake, places are in bad unsafe areas putting us at risk, the possibility of being robbed, or worse is so high that most of us get scarred off. We have good entensions but most of the losses would be ours, again scarring us off. They don't have much to loose, no place to live, dead beat BF / handlers, and family that's had enough of there shit really. They have nothing to loose.
They should make us feel good about seeing them, be honest, good hygiene, clean safe location and everyone out of the incall but them and you. Having real up to date photo's, layout what we can expect for what is agreed on and stay to that no upselling, no bait and switch, no calls when we are there. The list goes on and on.
None of what I've said is in our control only theirs.
Most people will not hurt someone feeling so we say we will show and have no entensions of showing THAT MUST STOP. We also need to be honest, clean and respectful for what they do. These girls are more at fault then we are, they would have less no shows and more repeat customers if they would clean up these re-occuring issues. We didn't do this to them, they did.
BTW; this site is here to help us reduce our risks, that why we us it and trust me it has helped me.
THANKS TO ALL.
[QUOTE=Outfishing;2640331]I really wanted to try a new provider today. I tried to set up an appointment with one by email. She asked me what time. I gave her a time within an hour and she never got back to me. So I took a ride with a list of 6 providers that all posted today. Four of them did not answer, and the other two told me to call them when I was close. When I was close I called, and neither of them answered. I don't get it. Are they all so busy?? I guess I will have to give one of the old reliables a call tomorrow. Very frustating![/QUOTE]If you want to start solving the problem of these providers standing you up then do what your suppose to do on this board. List who they are and post links. That is what this board is for, information to help us all out, including yourself. Your only hurting yourself and other mongers if you don't.