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Re: Stings
I was in Las Vegas for a week just two weeks before Christmas. A CG told me of stings ocassionally being conducted in the casinos, which was the first I had ever heard of that. I mean, the possibility of getting caught up in a sting has never crossed my mind. I understood her to say it was done by local law enforcement, with the consent of the casino security. She said they had male officers posing as johns, women officers posing as CG's, and even male and female officers posing as couples to catch CG's. She claimed to have been caught up in one of the stings. I have no reason to doubt her, and I can't think of any real reason for her to lie about stings taking place.
I didn't personally witness any stings happening, but I did notice that some of the MGM security guards were pretty active about shooing SOME of the girls out of the bars and casino. Not all, but some girls, maybe the ones under no trespass orders or something, I don't know. Anyway, security during that most recent vacation was a bit more active than I had seen in my previous vacation. It didn't bother me, I had a very good time, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, if you know what I mean.
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undercover le conducting a sting busted a local fireman last year for soliciting 2 **** sw's on the strip.
guy was a repeat offender and i'm sure got the book.
be safe and responsible.
plur.
[quote=rileym;1135611]stings targeting hobbyists with le posing as cg's? has anyone else heard about this? greeeaaattt. more info if you have it would be appreciated.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Redskinzzfans; 1135867]I was always under the impression that the casinos turned a blind eye to us, where this was concerned. As I've stated in earlier posts, I've walked by security many times with a CG, heading up to my room. I know they knew what she was and what was going on. That they wouldn't want to loose business, if they allowed LEO to come in their private property and hassle us. I have rarely seen LV police in a casino, they usually only call them to pick up someone they have already caught. Even this is done as far away from the customers as possible, to make us feel safe.
I would really like to know if this has changed, as I will be heading back soon for an extended weekend if not longer. [/QUOTE]I have watched several episodes of Cops on TV, pretty much every episode since day one. Its been about 10 years since I have seen it, but I recall watching eposides where Metro would get a couple of rooms and call the girls and do bust, I assume they were calling the escort agencies and not picking up CG's but I do not know. I would ASSUME that Metro would not notify the hotel if they were doing such a sting as undercover operations are just that, undercover. I could be wrong, I do not know the laws of NV or the rules for these things. I am here researching as I am new to the hobby and making a trip to Vegas soon.
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[QUOTE=Velasco;1135224]So I managed to end up with 3 real numbers of strippers from the 3 clubs I went to in Vegas (Glitter Gulch, Treasures and Spearmint Rhino). I got some nice dances and nice conversation from all 3 women, and we texted back and forth, mostly on work schedules. 2 of the women actually sent me a text telling me not to come to the club on a particular day as they were not going to be able to make it. On one of my nights, I did get a call at around 5 am, about 30 minutes after leaving the strip club and getting back to my hotel. The girl said she wanted to make sure I made it home safely, and wanted to wish me a good night and hoped to see me again. Was this an opportunity for takeout or was she just being friendly? I actually did not take the bait if it was being offered. Should I have asked her to come by my hotel room and tuck me in? I did get a couple of VIP dances from her earlier on in the night, and she commented that I was a generous tipper. Just wondering.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but probably not. A common move by Strippers is to establish a relationship with their customers so that they come back and spend money on them in the club. They will call and talk to you, discuss your life and theirs, and then tell you when they will next be working at the club. This is how "regulars" are born, even if yours would have only been temporary. That's not to say takeout can't occur over time with these girls, its just unlikely. Girls who offer takeout on a regular basis are more upfront about it.
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[QUOTE=Jake John;1136816]Maybe, but probably not. A common move by Strippers is to establish a relationship with their customers so that they come back and spend money on them in the club. They will call and talk to you, discuss your life and theirs, and then tell you when they will next be working at the club. This is how "regulars" are born, even if yours would have only been temporary. That's not to say takeout can't occur over time with these girls, its just unlikely. Girls who offer takeout on a regular basis are more upfront about it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up. At least now I won't occasionally wonder "What if"
I was surprised that my conversations with them got round to numbers, and the numbers all turned out to be real. Guys frequently post here that women at a SC will give out fake numbers, and I think that was my first time ever exchanging numbers with dancers. I don't recall ever doing it before. In our conversation I never did ask for takeout and she never offered (or maybe she did and I just missed the reference). Mute point now, I do not plan to be back in Vegas before thanksgiving 2011 anyway.
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[QUOTE=Velasco; 1136976]Thanks for clearing that up. At least now I won't occasionally wonder "What if"
I was surprised that my conversations with them got round to numbers, and the numbers all turned out to be real. Guys frequently post here that women at a SC will give out fake numbers, and I think that was my first time ever exchanging numbers with dancers. I don't recall ever doing it before. In our conversation I never did ask for takeout and she never offered (or maybe she did and I just missed the reference). Mute point now, I do not plan to be back in Vegas before thanksgiving 2011 anyway. [/QUOTE]JJ was right, except he didn't mention the aggressive competition alot of the girls have when it comes to a customer they want to keep to themselves. In my experience, if they find one they like, or as you stated, is a good tipper, they want to keep him all to themselves. That is why they exchange numbers with you. It gives the illusion that more will follow, but in LV, they know you will only be there a short time. By calling you to tell you she wasn't working, she in fact was saying " don't come to the club tonight and waste the money you can give me tomorrow ".
They are smart enough to know that there is only so much money that we will spend in a SC, in a certain length of time. They also fear that we might find a girl who appeals to us just a little more. She could remind us of a girl in high school, she might grind on us a little more, talk a little more trash, any number of reasons if we got a dance from another girl, the first girls money would be less.
For this reason they get very territorial. I used to practically live in the local SC, and I've seen it all. I don't go to them much at all anymore. It is a poor return on the investment. Monger dollars are much better spent on a CG (in LV) or at a local AMP. Even the BP girls are better, at least you know what will happen, and what it will cost you.
It's almost like there is a training class for the girls who work at a SC. How to milk the most money out of a customer. Most of the girls I've ran into, passed with flying colors, LOL! The main point I was trying to make, just because they give you their number, it doesn't mean you will get any action. It could mean you are in her sights, and she is about to try to get more money out of you!
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My LV Experience
Well I'm back in Australia. Sorry I haven't posted earlier. Nyny was a great place to stay at IMO, the high ceiling help get rid of the smoke smell and I found it to be a brighter place than most of the others. I like the fact you actually smelt food when you walked in off the bridges.
I walked into almost every casino on the strip except for IP, circus circus, and a couple of the smaller joints. By far the hottest women I saw were at the bellagio. I didn't even dare ask what they wanted for a trip to the room.
My friend and I were walking through the MGM on a Wednesday I think, and had passed the crazy horse bar and found not much happening, then when we were near the slots near the hotel lobby I'd say about 8 to 10 girls Appeared from the machines all standing there. All with tits spewing out their tops, short shirts and 5 inch heels. Every guy in the vicinity was focused on them. We asked one bcg what she wanted. $400 for half an hour. No thanks.
My friend grabbed a girl called Asia. She was one of the girls who propositioned me the first night I was there at nyny. I thought she was a Latino but turns out she was half German and half fillipino. Very slim with massive tits.
Well he took her back to nyny and did the deed with her. I actually wanted the busty white girl from the first night. I looked for her but alas she was not to be found.
In the end I ordered out. Got an indy escort. I was happy.
I'm planning a return visit next year some time.
In the meantime I'll keep monitoring the boards and contribute where I can.
S
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What am I doing wrong.
I got into vegas on Friday night with a few friends and I are in town until Thursday. I decided to get a room in the MGM based on reviews of this board, it appears a lot of action happens at the MGM along with the surrounding casinos (Luxor, Excal, NYNY and the Trop). I have been out looking for a CG or gambling from around 11-4am but Haven't even had a girl smile at me.
I usually start off at the MGM and circle around the Zuri bar to see if there are any girls alone at the bar, I do the same with the Center Bar at NYNY and the Crazyhorse at MGM. The only girls that I have seen are with groups of friends so no luck there. Is it harder to spot these working girls on weekends? Either way, I am getting an individual room for myself on Monday and I was hoping to be able to seal the deal a few times from now until Thursday. Are there any mistakes that I am making and do I spot a single girl at the bar and talk to them or should I just wait there for a minutes and hope to get spotted.
Thanks for any further advice.
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[QUOTE=David Lopez 86; 1139608]I got into vegas on Friday night with a few friends and I are in town until Thursday. I decided to get a room in the MGM based on reviews of this board, it appears a lot of action happens at the MGM along with the surrounding casinos (Luxor, Excal, NYNY and the Trop). I have been out looking for a CG or gambling from around 11-4am but Haven't even had a girl smile at me.
I usually start off at the MGM and circle around the Zuri bar to see if there are any girls alone at the bar, I do the same with the Center Bar at NYNY and the Crazyhorse at MGM. The only girls that I have seen are with groups of friends so no luck there. Is it harder to spot these working girls on weekends? Either way, I am getting an individual room for myself on Monday and I was hoping to be able to seal the deal a few times from now until Thursday. Are there any mistakes that I am making and do I spot a single girl at the bar and talk to them or should I just wait there for a minutes and hope to get spotted.
Thanks for any further advice. [/QUOTE]Hi Dave. I was at the MGM a few months ago for a few days and only noticed CGs between about 6-8am oddly enough.
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Re: CG's
[QUOTE=David Lopez 86; 1139608]I got into vegas on Friday night with a few friends and I are in town until Thursday. I decided to get a room in the MGM based on reviews of this board, it appears a lot of action happens at the MGM along with the surrounding casinos (Luxor, Excal, NYNY and the Trop). I have been out looking for a CG or gambling from around 11-4am but Haven't even had a girl smile at me.
I usually start off at the MGM and circle around the Zuri bar to see if there are any girls alone at the bar, I do the same with the Center Bar at NYNY and the Crazyhorse at MGM. The only girls that I have seen are with groups of friends so no luck there. Is it harder to spot these working girls on weekends? Either way, I am getting an individual room for myself on Monday and I was hoping to be able to seal the deal a few times from now until Thursday. Are there any mistakes that I am making and do I spot a single girl at the bar and talk to them or should I just wait there for a minutes and hope to get spotted.
Thanks for any further advice. [/QUOTE]I find it very hard to believe that you went to 5 Casinos in that time frame and you didn't see ONE CG! Maybe you are trying too hard or not allowing enough time for things to develop.
There is an earlier post about a very good waiting spot in MGM.
As for the other casinos that is what you need to do. Find a nice spot to wait and see what happens. Most of the ladies will either be at the bar nursing a drink or slow playing the low money slots. Once you spot one make some eye contact and just be patient. You might be surprised what comes and sits down next to you!
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[QUOTE=David Lopez 86; 1139608]I got into vegas on Friday night with a few friends and I are in town until Thursday. I decided to get a room in the MGM based on reviews of this board, it appears a lot of action happens at the MGM along with the surrounding casinos (Luxor, Excal, NYNY and the Trop). I have been out looking for a CG or gambling from around 11-4am but Haven't even had a girl smile at me.
I usually start off at the MGM and circle around the Zuri bar to see if there are any girls alone at the bar, I do the same with the Center Bar at NYNY and the Crazyhorse at MGM. The only girls that I have seen are with groups of friends so no luck there. Is it harder to spot these working girls on weekends? Either way, I am getting an individual room for myself on Monday and I was hoping to be able to seal the deal a few times from now until Thursday. Are there any mistakes that I am making and do I spot a single girl at the bar and talk to them or should I just wait there for a minutes and hope to get spotted.
Thanks for any further advice. [/QUOTE]Read the forum, man. The women are everywhere around you, man. I just walked through the MGM floor on my way to the Crazy Horse Paris cabaret 3 weeks ago at around 10 pm and was actually stopped by a stunning CG who grabbed my arm. A few hints:
1- If a woman is sitting alone at a bar, or at a slot and they are GLANCING AROUND AND SEEM TO BE VERY BUSY CONSTANTLY CHECKING THE MESSAGES ON THEIR PHONE, THEN THAT IS A CG.
2-I think the easiest course of action for you should be through the staff. There are two ways you can do this:
You can go to the bar at whatever casino and get a drink, get into conversation with the bartender, give a good tip ($10) and then tell them you are looking for female company and are having trouble spotting the CGs and don't want to piss off a woman that may not be a CG. I don't think there is a bartender in Vegas that will NOT point out a few. You will be surprised just how many CGs are on a first name basis with bartenders. I have actually heard of bartenders in Vegas warning guys to stay away from certain CGs. I think I read this here on an old post.
You can do the same thing with the cocktail waitresses if you are playing the slots. Get a drink, give a good tip and simply ask the same question with perhaps a little more tact. Make it clear that you are NOT soliciting them but simply asking for information. Nothing will surprise them, this is Vegas and they have heard it all before.
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Had Better luck today
On Monday I had better luck with the CG. I stayed around the Center Bar in NYNY and I had one girl keep me company while I played the video poker, but I was just not interested and she was very agressive with her approach. Additionally she was dressed in normal clothes (jeans, flats and a tshirt) and a bit over weight. I then left the circle bar and headed to the penny slots, on my way there I was given the look but a girl but she was severally overweight and once again in normal clothing. I talked to her for a bit and ger number just in case if this is the best that I can find in vegas.
Hoping for a better weekend and good luck to the rest.
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CG Prowling.
[QUOTE=David Lopez 86; 1140092]On Monday I had better luck with the CG. I stayed around the Center Bar in NYNY and I had one girl keep me company while I played the video poker, but I was just not interested and she was very agressive with her approach. Additionally she was dressed in normal clothes (jeans, flats and a tshirt) and a bit over weight. I then left the circle bar and headed to the penny slots, on my way there I was given the look but a girl but she was severally overweight and once again in normal clothing. I talked to her for a bit and ger number just in case if this is the best that I can find in vegas.
Hoping for a better weekend and good luck to the rest. [/QUOTE]The best time seems to be after 11pm till early morning.
Whatch for the 6 inch spike heels.
Hang out in the cheap slots area.
If they are at the bar odds are they will be with one or two other girls. Make eye contact, if they are working they will wave you over or come to you.
I did not see to many CG's just sitting alone at the bar. They seemed to be walking the floor and low / slow playing the cheap slots or just sitting at a machine on their phone.
My HO is the more laid back and the more eye contact you make the more you'll find. They seem to notice the guys that are looking at the girls and hoan right in on you. They are like sharks that way.
Keep in mind, you are in charge. You have the cash. If you don't like something about them send them packing. Another one will find you in minutes. Probably the one that got beat to you by the girl you've passed on.
Good luck.
Smile and relax.
Have fun Its Vegas!
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One other thing.
[QUOTE=David Lopez 86; 1140092]On Monday I had better luck with the CG. I stayed around the Center Bar in NYNY and I had one girl keep me company while I played the video poker, but I was just not interested and she was very agressive with her approach. Additionally she was dressed in normal clothes (jeans, flats and a tshirt) and a bit over weight. I then left the circle bar and headed to the penny slots, on my way there I was given the look but a girl but she was severally overweight and once again in normal clothing. I talked to her for a bit and ger number just in case if this is the best that I can find in vegas.
Hoping for a better weekend and good luck to the rest. [/QUOTE]You may have missed the post's about a month back. Some of the LV seniors pointed out that dress code is an issue. Jeans and a sport coat and you look like LEO. Business casual attire is best. Look like you can afford them, was one way somebody put it.
BTW I am mid forties, not attractive and 70lbs overweight. Every CG I hooked up with was mid 20's and hot as hell.
I got the best response by just being a laid back "nice guy". I respected them when we talked and they were open to request's and fantasies. I didn't go for freakish requests just some things I wanted to do. Nobody said no and only one tried to upcharge but relented when I started to pass.
Again.
Good Luck and have Fun!
If you win big, go for a threesome! Won money is best spent on pussy & wardrobe, that keeps lady luck smiling on you.
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May
I will be back in vegas the 16 of may I gone over the listing and have see all the reports on cg around the strip but this time I will be staying at Arizona Charlie's Boulder are there cg there or am I going to have to look outside you can post here or pm me