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[QUOTE=Sleeper1;3416172]My recent sweet spot is young single mothers. The ones who will do whatever it takes to provide for their kid.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with yu on that sweet spot. Let's face it. It's either for the kids or for drugs. I stick strictly with the moms.
[QUOTE=JoeDocks11;3416078]I beg to differ with you. I don't doubt that what you state is accurate based on your personal experience.
I have some absolute sweeties for 100. Slim, trim and good looking. All these girls start at 400-500. Good for them. 100-150 tops is my number and I get more than I have time for. Its all about negotiation.
This site has a SB page (a little hard to find) It's under the Michigan GENERAL topic
www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13324-sugar-babes
Dont know why the link isn't clickable?[/QUOTE]Wow! Great job at the negotiation table. I stick with the college girls and they'll stay the night and are down for MSOG for the price I listed above.
If you travel at all SB's are the way to go, in the past year I've been to San Diego, Phoenix and Ft. Worth for various things and I'm now a huge Aztec, Sun Devil and Horned Frogs fan.
[QUOTE=JoeDocks11;3416078]I beg to differ with you. I don't doubt that what you state is accurate based on your personal experience.
I have some absolute sweeties for 100. Slim, trim and good looking. All these girls start at 400-500. Good for them. 100-150 tops is my number and I get more than I have time for. Its all about negotiation.
This site has a SB page (a little hard to find) It's under the Michigan GENERAL topic
www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13324-sugar-babes
Dont know why the link isn't clickable?[/QUOTE]Do you mind sharing if you have to do the dinner, etc. ? I have a few women saying there are guys spending serious dough just to hang out. They say they require downpayments, dinner, etc.
Any pointers on ones you have luck with? Any luck with ones that aren't overtly down for play? A lot seem to want to put on a face about 'not being an escort' and so I've avoided. Curious if others do the same.
I've had a few experiences, one decent so far, but been a while since I've gone back. Price was good, she was down, but, took a lot of work to get to a decent point.
[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3416353]I like it. How do you find these young, single mothers? I am half-expecting you attend random Lamaze classes.[/QUOTE]The dollar store is a surprisingly good spot. I got that tip on this site a while back. Otherwise I use internet sites.
[QUOTE=Taz41;3416856]Do you mind sharing if you have to do the dinner, etc. ? I have a few women saying there are guys spending serious dough just to hang out. They say they require downpayments, dinner, etc.
Any pointers on ones you have luck with? Any luck with ones that aren't overtly down for play? A lot seem to want to put on a face about 'not being an escort' and so I've avoided. Curious if others do the same.
I've had a few experiences, one decent so far, but been a while since I've gone back. Price was good, she was down, but, took a lot of work to get to a decent point.[/QUOTE]I do an uncompensated starbucks date for the introduction and discussion. Make it clear during initial conversation on the site that you handle the allowance on a per meeting basis. That immediately weeds out the ones that are fantasizing about having a sugar daddy that will cover rent, car payments, etc. , etc. At the coffee meeting, put your per meeting fee out there. Stick to your price point. I have a dozen that stated at 400-500 and came down to 100. Some will not drop past 200. I can't see paying 200 when, with a little effort, I can find hotties at 100. Younger is better and cheaper. The older ones want the bigger bucks.
To hell with dinners and concerts.
[QUOTE=JoeDocks11;3417631]That immediately weeds out the ones that are fantasizing about having a sugar daddy that will cover rent, car payments, etc. , etc.
To hell with dinners and concerts.[/QUOTE]LOL. No international travel and shopping excursions?
Appreciate your intel.
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Names Carly, had been UTR chick. Anyone seen her lately? She's clean, little flighty sometimes but good provider. Hadn't seen or heard from in a while. Tried calling and texting but nothing. Last time she came out she cleaned my home and well. That was about a month ago. Been off and on since last November seeing her. # is 586-XXXX000. Been reviewed by me but now has a little website of her own. Anyone with said info? PM's or board communication is fine.
Never mind the old ads. She only posted on BP once last November.
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[QUOTE=JoeDocks11;3417631]I do an uncompensated starbucks date for the introduction and discussion. Make it clear during initial conversation on the site that you handle the allowance on a per meeting basis. That immediately weeds out the ones that are fantasizing about having a sugar daddy that will cover rent, car payments, etc. , etc. At the coffee meeting, put your per meeting fee out there. Stick to your price point. I have a dozen that stated at 400-500 and came down to 100. Some will not drop past 200. I can't see paying 200 when, with a little effort, I can find hotties at 100. Younger is better and cheaper. The older ones want the bigger bucks.
To hell with dinners and concerts.[/QUOTE]I explored the SA site for a while and I haven't found any hottie in early 20's that will go down to $100. All seemed to want $200 to $250 after some negotiating through messaging.
Do you only talk about the fee only at the first Starbucks meeting? Don't the girls want to know your range before the meeting?
I am kind of new so I am seeking advice from your experience.
Some hotties that were college verified said they got much higher. One said $700 per meeting another said $1400. Once I told them around $200, they stopped responding all together. I would never pay over $300 regardless of how hot they are.
$100 per meeting for a young hottie would be the ultimate goal.
[QUOTE=gigaman;3422115]I explored the SA site for a while and I haven't found any hottie in early 20's that will go down to $100. All seemed to want $200 to $250 after some negotiating through messaging.
Do you only talk about the fee only at the first Starbucks meeting? Don't the girls want to know your range before the meeting?
I am kind of new so I am seeking advice from your experience.
Some hotties that were college verified said they got much higher. One said $700 per meeting another said $1400. Once I told them around $200, they stopped responding all together. I would never pay over $300 regardless of how hot they are.
$100 per meeting for a young hottie would be the ultimate goal.[/QUOTE]I guess looks or approach could make a difference. I met 3 last weekend for coffee and 2 of them were good with 100. The third wouldn't say her number other than that she wanted to get whatever amount she needed when she needed funds. She wasnt that attractive anyways.
Are you negotiating via the site or doing this face-to-face? Face-to-face has much better results. Not sure why.
I wish I had a picture of the 6' slim blonde that I did for 100. The only thibg she was missing was boobs. Absolutely gorgeous, long blond hair, nearly perfect body and took instructions like a champ. She was a little shy at first but talked openly about what she liked once I got her going.
Remember, most of these girls don't like to be shared. They DO NOT view themselves as escorts. Rather, they view it as picking up a little extra doing what they usually do for free.
[QUOTE=JoeDocks11;3422206]I guess looks or approach could make a difference. I met 3 last weekend for coffee and 2 of them were good with 100. The third wouldn't say her number other than that she wanted to get whatever amount she needed when she needed funds. She wasnt that attractive anyways.
Are you negotiating via the site or doing this face-to-face? Face-to-face has much better results. Not sure why.
I wish I had a picture of the 6' slim blonde that I did for 100. The only thibg she was missing was boobs. Absolutely gorgeous, long blond hair, nearly perfect body and took instructions like a champ. She was a little shy at first but talked openly about what she liked once I got her going.
Remember, most of these girls don't like to be shared. They DO NOT view themselves as escorts. Rather, they view it as picking up a little extra doing what they usually do for free.[/QUOTE]My negotiations were through messages on the site only. In hindsight, I think I was trying to attract the girls by trying to see what amount the girls were looking for and trying to agree before the first meeting.
Some of the older girls, around 27-32, that has been on the site for more than 6 months, did seem experienced with previous SDs and had a set minimum price, around $300 per meeting, and did not want to budge.
Based on your feedback, I will change my approach and be more firm about non-compensated first meet and to negotiate during that face to face meeting.
I did get phone numbers of some young girls in their early 20's and looked them up on FB (I don't think these girls know that your phone number is linked to FB) and they are real. Again, $200 - $250 range per meeting for these girls.
I had better luck once I started using "NSA" in the text filter.
I am not really looking for single mom who may be more desperate than a college age girl.
My goal is to meet and experience young "normal" girls who has zero baby damage and great body.
One final thing, out of the girls I contacted, none of them said they can host.
So there is always extra cost for a hotel fee, for me since I can't host either.
I need to find a reasonable hotel option that is not too seedy, slightly above Motel 6 level.
Anyone have reasonable hotel recommendations near the West side, Ann Arbor, Canton, Livonia, Farmington Hills, Southfield area?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3423308]This doesn't answer the question you asked, but maybe it answers the question you have, but didn't ask: I asked my UTR girl (the 20-year-old) why so many providers, including her, state "no AA" (euphemistically speaking). Her immediate response was "because we don't like getting pounded by big dicks. " And she was serious.
Now, I know this could be opening a can of worms, and I'm not trying to start a flame war; I know she is perpetuating a stereotype. This is just one girl's opinion. She wasn't bigoted, as I expected -- she said she had three AA boyfriends in the past -- schoolmates, mainly. But, in her experience, all the AA males were endowed with more than she wants.
In fact, she's told me that I'm "pretty big for a white guy", whereas I believe I am average, and said so; she shot me a look that said she thought I was either lying or stupid. And after an extended session where I had trouble completing, she stopped and said, "we're done, I'm sore", so I gather she's not exaggerating -- she doesn't like getting pounded.
I've asked other providers about this, mainly the SC girls, who tend to be a little more mature, late 20's or early 30's, and all of them spoke more about age than race. One told me emphatically that young guys have no respect, period, and that's why she worked the day shift -- where, as I said by way of hello, there wasn't a customer in the place who was under the age of 50. She liked it that way.[/QUOTE]More appts possible when not in pain. Certainly personal preference as well, however, the main concern is not missing out on appts or SO noticing anything. Not just AAs BTW, anyone for whatever reason that's more of a pain than average.
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I will be in Detroit for a long awaited Jean Luc Ponty show at Chene Park, is there a hotel / motel near the park where I can sleep overnight and possibly meet a willing young lady for some good ole fornication or if anybody knows a lady that is willing to do outcall who is safe and drama / rob free. I would like to stay at or under 1. 20 for 30 min. The show is on 6/21 any info or number would be greatly appreciated I prefer white girls or Asian, if a slim sister that isn't a rob diva or gps would get serious consideration. A PM would work for any information and if you are ever in my neck of the woods I'll definitely return the favor. HL29.
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Names Carly, had been UTR chick. Anyone seen her lately? She's clean, little flighty sometimes but good provider. Hadn't seen or heard from in a while. Tried calling and texting but nothing. Last time she came out she cleaned my home and well. That was about a month ago. Been off and on since last November seeing her. # is 586-XXXX000. Been reviewed by me but now has a little website of her own. Anyone with said info? PM's or board communication is fine.
Never mind the old ads. She only posted on BP once last November.[/QUOTE]Share the info if you find her.