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What a waste of resources. If you divide the man hours by the people arrested. I can see the ones with the minors. The AMP just close them down why pick on the johns. How do they choice which ones to raid. ? I read they arrest a bunch in Youngstown and southern Ohio. This must have cost the taxpayers millions.
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[QUOTE=BuckeyeGuy2;6085152]Any donors coughing up the $100 grand she needs to post bail?
[URL]https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2022/08/four-accused-of-killing-lakewood-man-and-wrapping-his-body-in-a-tarp-plead-not-guilty.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Not going to lie. This video of her arguing with the judge is kinda sexy.
[QUOTE=BuckeyeGuy2;6085152]Any donors coughing up the $100 grand she needs to post bail?
[URL]https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2022/08/four-accused-of-killing-lakewood-man-and-wrapping-his-body-in-a-tarp-plead-not-guilty.html[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://fox8.com/news/4-to-appear-in-court-for-lakewood-mans-murder/amp/[/URL]
[QUOTE=RavensBurg;6085791][URL]https://fox8.com/news/4-to-appear-in-court-for-lakewood-mans-murder/amp/[/URL][/QUOTE]It is sexy but also stupid as hell to do that shit. She aski g to get hung worse then she is right now.
[QUOTE=RobertD26;6086200]It is sexy but also stupid as hell to do that shit. She asking to get hung worse then she is right now.[/QUOTE]She'll be an old bag when she gets out.
I must admit, I'm going to miss her. She had a great little body. Half the time she was a pain in the ass, but other half were good dates. My best dates with her were at that house off Clark when she was in the basement. Sketchy as hell, but she was totally accommodating there. The last time I saw her was in July, she went with me and was so proud of being off the drugs. I didn't have the heart to break the news to her that smoking Crack is a drug. She was cool and accommodating, a good last time. When I took her back we went to the convenience store and she actually bought food, and flowers. She seemed like a normal person for a brief moment. She's going away for a long time, will be a distant memory.
[QUOTE=RavensBurg;6085789]Not going to lie. This video of her arguing with the judge is kinda sexy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Budd2;6086249]I must admit, I'm going to miss her. She had a great little body. Half the time she was a pain in the ass, but other half were good dates. My best dates with her were at that house off Clark when she was in the basement. Sketchy as hell, but she was totally accommodating there. The last time I saw her was in July, she went with me and was so proud of being off the drugs. I didn't have the heart to break the news to her that smoking Crack is a drug. She was cool and accommodating, a good last time. When I took her back we went to the convenience store and she actually bought food, and flowers. She seemed like a normal person for a brief moment. She's going away for a long time, will be a distant memory.[/QUOTE]Them other three don't have a prayer, she's going to roll on them like a MF'er. Not that I blame her. I wasnt there but can say for pretty sure she didn't pull the trigger. It was probably the younger dude. But could have been one of the older cats. Whoever she might get 5 years or so. She'll probably set up a bunch of dope boys in the process. Can we all agree we are discussing this from outside looking in, which is a great place to be in this mess?
Yeah, I'm sorry she's in this jam too. Did you see how those sweet boobs were bouncing unconfined while she was being lippy with the judge? She was a real sweetheart when I spent time with her.
Cheech.
[QUOTE=FigureRingLyle;6086406]Them other three don't have a prayer, she's going to roll on them like a MF'er. Not that I blame her. I wasnt there but can say for pretty sure she didn't pull the trigger. It was probably the younger dude. But could have been one of the older cats. Whoever she might get 5 years or so. She'll probably set up a bunch of dope boys in the process. Can we all agree we are discussing this from outside looking in, which is a great place to be in this mess?[/QUOTE]Fuck yes. I never met her, but the best thing about this hobby is banging these broads and dropping 100 bucks, then leaving and having nothing to do with their lives or results of their stupid decisions like fucking thugs. You hang out with the sludge of humanity every day, this is what happens. Our tax dollars have probably paid for these vermin she was hanging out with to get away with crimes their whole lives, they are probable career criminals. And remember, Yost would rather target taxpayers, not them, theyll never pay the fines. But on this day, they are in court while we are on the bowels of the internet talking about it. Its a beautiful thing.
The main lesson to take from all this, don't be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Even if she is completely innocent and was just a bystander, she would still have been indicted and jailed by our "qualified" high ranking officials. You know, the same high ranking officials that walk into obvious stings that legally retarded gentlemen like myself predict before they are announced because I see their obviously fake ads.
All speculation, but this is probably what happened if i were to guess. You hear the judge "I don't know maam, I don't know what evidence there is. " in reality, if she didnt pull the trigger, probably the only evidence they had was that she was hanging out with a bunch of minorities, and the grand jury was a bunch of older Reagan supporters, sad that such prejudice persists in 2022, yes they were probably career criminals, but that probably had nothing to do with it, I doubt the grand jury even looked at the evidence, it was probably just like the scene in To Kill a Mockingbird, prejudice probably was the only reason they chose to indict.
The fact that Ohio only cares about their archaic laws and archaic procedures and not the sanctity of an innocent person's life says a lot about the safety of all of us in this state.
C92.
[QUOTE=Budd2;6086249]I must admit, I'm going to miss her. She had a great little body. Half the time she was a pain in the ass, but other half were good dates. My best dates with her were at that house off Clark when she was in the basement. Sketchy as hell, but she was totally accommodating there. The last time I saw her was in July, she went with me and was so proud of being off the drugs. I didn't have the heart to break the news to her that smoking Crack is a drug. She was cool and accommodating, a good last time. When I took her back we went to the convenience store and she actually bought food, and flowers. She seemed like a normal person for a brief moment. She's going away for a long time, will be a distant memory.[/QUOTE]Going to admit that she looked pretty good with her boobies bouncing around in her top as she argued with the judge. I could see her fighting for an extra $20 out on the streets.
And. . . How many of you would like to get her shackled like she was at the end of the video when she was being led out. It would probably be an extra $50.
[QUOTE=KevinMike;6085363]What a waste of resources. If you divide the man hours by the people arrested. I can see the ones with the minors. The AMP just close them down why pick on the johns. How do they choice which ones to raid. ? I read they arrest a bunch in Youngstown and southern Ohio. This must have cost the taxpayers millions.[/QUOTE]BIG NEWS massage parlors raided, shows all short of law enforcement agencies raiding those illegal, nasty massage parlors. Meanwhile there are a group of thugs carjacking people's cars, threatening them with guns and bodily harm, and the best the cops can do is to tell you to give the thugs what they want if you're carjacked. Oh yeah, the thugs have guns, massage parlors do not, real tough cops. Talk about a total failure in our society. When will folks wake up and get rid of these idiots in office?
[QUOTE=Chunks92;6086517]The best thing about this hobby is banging these broads and dropping 100 bucks, then leaving and having nothing to do with their lives[/QUOTE]You are such a caring man, worthy of all your self-laudatory proclamations!
[QUOTE=Chunks92;6086517]But on this day, they are in court while we are on the bowels of the internet talking about it. Its a beautiful thing[/QUOTE]Yost's staff reads this forum daily.
It's only a matter of time before it turns ugly.
[QUOTE=Polishboy;6086548]When will folks wake up and get rid of these idiots in office?[/QUOTE]There aren't enough perverts to vote anyone out of office.
[QUOTE=CTom86;6086544]Going to admit that she looked pretty good with her boobies bouncing around in her top as she argued with the judge. I could see her fighting for an extra $20 out on the streets.
And. . . How many of you would like to get her shackled like she was at the end of the video when she was being led out. It would probably be an extra $50.[/QUOTE]Wasn't she caught driving the dead guys pickup? She's guilty of something for sure and does deserve to do some hard time. Unfucking believeable!
[QUOTE=Fuzzyek;6086938]Wasn't she caught driving the dead guys pickup? She's guilty of something for sure and does deserve to do some hard time. Unfucking believeable![/QUOTE]I thought she looked great. Maybe I'll pay her bail and take her down to a secluded Caribbean island for a few years.
[QUOTE=CTom86;6086544]Going to admit that she looked pretty good with her boobies bouncing around in her top as she argued with the judge. I could see her fighting for an extra $20 out on the streets.
And. . . How many of you would like to get her shackled like she was at the end of the video when she was being led out. It would probably be an extra $50.[/QUOTE]I agree she looked good amazing what being clean does to bad she could have been a star in this area shows what bad choices do to you hopefully she is out by 50 years old.
[QUOTE=CTom86;6086544]Going to admit that she looked pretty good with her boobies bouncing around in her top as she argued with the judge. I could see her fighting for an extra $20 out on the streets.
And. . . How many of you would like to get her shackled like she was at the end of the video when she was being led out. It would probably be an extra $50.[/QUOTE]A pervert always thinks of his penis first, even when circumstances dictate compassion with heart and mind.
Just ignore. Guys he seems like a new or the same sustar. Don't even start replying to him. Just go to the ignore button and save us all some grief.
[QUOTE=Tykhasosna;6087364]A pervert always thinks of his penis first, even when circumstances dictate compassion with heart and mind.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Polishboy;6086548]BIG NEWS massage parlors raided, shows all short of law enforcement agencies raiding those illegal, nasty massage parlors. Meanwhile there are a group of thugs carjacking people's cars, threatening them with guns and bodily harm, and the best the cops can do is to tell you to give the thugs what they want if you're carjacked. Oh yeah, the thugs have guns, massage parlors do not, real tough cops. Talk about a total failure in our society. When will folks wake up and get rid of these idiots in office?[/QUOTE]It's all political theater. The reality is no politician gives two shits about you or me. It's all about staying in office, getting re-elected. Of course the majority of the uneducated can't see this.
[QUOTE=Smgrinder;6086969]I thought she looked great. Maybe I'll pay her bail and take her down to a secluded Caribbean island for a few years.[/QUOTE]You'd have her back in a few days (if not sooner). Doesn't take that long to get tired of her.
[QUOTE=BudBowl2001;6088009]Just ignore. Guys he seems like a new or the same sustar. Don't even start replying to him. Just go to the ignore button and save us all some grief.[/QUOTE]Done! It won't be long now.
[QUOTE=BudBowl2001;6088009]Just ignore. Guys he seems like a new or the same sustar. Don't even start replying to him. Just go to the ignore button and save us all some grief.[/QUOTE]Done. So glad there's an ignore button.
[QUOTE=WoolfMan;6095462]Just checked, still closed, sign not lit, no white suv (which I think is the girls transportation as I've seen one having a smoke by it and it's always there when open).[/QUOTE][URL]https://fox8.com/news/sex-for-sale-video-shows-what-investigators-found-in-ne-ohio-human-trafficking-raid/[/URL]
Is it possible they will ever open again? This report says the owners are getting some pretty serious charges.
[QUOTE=LoveSixNine;6095730][URL]https://fox8.com/news/sex-for-sale-video-shows-what-investigators-found-in-ne-ohio-human-trafficking-raid/[/URL]
Is it possible they will ever open again? This report says the owners are getting some pretty serious charges.[/QUOTE]They say they have evidence of women forced to carry out sex for sale even while living in the massage parlors.
A group called the Harriet Tubman Movement is already helping some of the women in this case start new lives. Co-founder Laura Bartchak said. We want them to be safe first of all.
How about this line of bullshit they are selling to the public?
I went to one of the parlors raided this week, probably 4 times this year as recently as 6 weeks ago. Anybody here went to any other parlors that were raised last year or previously? We're you contacted / got in trouble? Freaking out. I'm quite certain I'm one of the 500+ customers they have surveillance on. Thanks all.
[QUOTE=Thelonereaper;6096056]I went to one of the parlors raided this week, probably 4 times this year as recently as 6 weeks ago. Anybody here went to any other parlors that were raised last year or previously? We're you contacted / got in trouble? Freaking out. I'm quite certain I'm one of the 500+ customers they have surveillance on. Thanks all.[/QUOTE]I had similar questions back during the big raid in 2019. You can go here and see this and some prior discussion:. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3986-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=4392234&viewfull=1[/URL]#post4392234.
[QUOTE=LoveSixNine;6095730][URL]https://fox8.com/news/sex-for-sale-video-shows-what-investigators-found-in-ne-ohio-human-trafficking-raid/[/URL]
Is it possible they will ever open again? This report says the owners are getting some pretty serious charges.[/QUOTE]So in the article they said:
"In fact, in one video clip, you see a washer and dryer and hear investigators talking about finding food."
Seriously, a washer and dryer are necessary to clean the linens used in a massage shop and many other businesses. I bet if you looked inside every small business you would find food. Yes, a lot of the women that work in massage shops live there because they are single and have no family local so it is much cheaper and easier to do so. Others live in the owner's homes for the same reasons. None of these conditions alone definitively equate to human trafficking. Just another way of trying to paint a picture of horrible conditions that do not necessarily exist. I am sure there is human trafficking going on, even in Ohio, but the vast majority of AMPs are not where it happens.
[QUOTE=Smith5494;6095868]They say they have evidence of women forced to carry out sex for sale even while living in the massage parlors.
A group called the Harriet Tubman Movement is already helping some of the women in this case start new lives. Co-founder Laura Bartchak said. We want them to be safe first of all.
How about this line of bullshit they are selling to the public?[/QUOTE]The report made a big deal out of the washer and dryer in the place. But wouldn't every massage parlor have those? Don't they have to wash the sheets? And they found food. What a shocker. Every place I've ever worked has food. People are entitled to lunch breaks after all.
Perhaps there really was human trafficking going on. I'm not in a position to know. But the evidence presented in the news report seemed flimsy at best.
[URL]https://fox8.com/news/i-team/it-was-not-even-a-secret-new-video-from-human-trafficking-raids-on-massage-parlors/[/URL]
Says they are taking a look at last 500 customers.
[QUOTE=BudBowl2001;6099937][URL]https://fox8.com/news/i-team/it-was-not-even-a-secret-new-video-from-human-trafficking-raids-on-massage-parlors/[/URL]
Says they are taking a look at last 500 customers.[/QUOTE]Seems confusing to me. How in the hell do they know who to look for. I certainly don't give my name and I don't call either.
[QUOTE=Fuzzyek;6101244]Seems confusing to me. How in the hell do they know who to look for. I certainly don't give my name and I don't call either.[/QUOTE]License plate numbers would be one way, anyone dumb enough to pay with a credit card would be another. The key is to keep your mouth shut. Unfortunately for many, the mere presence of cops knocking on your door uninvited, would be difficult to explain to your significant other.
[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6101584]License plate numbers would be one way, anyone dumb enough to pay with a credit card would be another. The key is to keep your mouth shut. Unfortunately for many, the mere presence of cops knocking on your door uninvited, would be difficult to explain to your significant other.[/QUOTE]I call bullshit. They made their headlines and that's all that matters. Guarantee these businesses will be up and running again in the near future.
[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/07/29/sex-trafficking-illicit-massage-parlors-cases-fail/1206517001/[/URL]
[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6101584]License plate numbers would be one way, anyone dumb enough to pay with a credit card would be another. The key is to keep your mouth shut. Unfortunately for many, the mere presence of cops knocking on your door uninvited, would be difficult to explain to your significant other.[/QUOTE]I'm sure they seized the phone and are looking through it's history. I wonder why these shops are always in some super busy place? And who was the twat that they interviewed? He said he went into the shop. Does that mean Maybe he got a HE and was unsatisfied so he called LE? Maybe the China woman made fun of his little PP?
I'm confused. If one is not caught in an act how can they show up at your house at a later date saying we know you were there on a certain date.
Not knowing the law, don't they need proof? Seems to them be a he said / he said situation.
[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6101584]License plate numbers would be one way, anyone dumb enough to pay with a credit card would be another. The key is to keep your mouth shut. Unfortunately for many, the mere presence of cops knocking on your door uninvited, would be difficult to explain to your significant other.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RavensBurg;6101689]I call bullshit. They made their headlines and that's all that matters. Guarantee these businesses will be up and running again in the near future.
[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/07/29/sex-trafficking-illicit-massage-parlors-cases-fail/1206517001/[/URL][/QUOTE]A few years ago when everything in Warren was raided, they kept records of all the license plates and then went after people who'd made at least 3 visits that year. I don't know the details after that. It's still a good idea to park elsewhere if you don't want to be approached and asked about it.
[QUOTE=AthJun;6102200]A few years ago when everything in Warren was raided, they kept records of all the license plates and then went after people who'd made at least 3 visits that year. I don't know the details after that. It's still a good idea to park elsewhere if you don't want to be approached and asked about it.[/QUOTE]How did they get the license plates?
[QUOTE=Banshee50;6102146]I'm confused. If one is not caught in an act how can they show up at your house at a later date saying we know you were there on a certain date.
Not knowing the law, don't they need proof? Seems to them be a he said / he said situation.[/QUOTE]Cops can knock on your door anytime they want to. They'll be really friendly and nice and say something like "we just want to ask you some questions about why your vehicle was observed at such and such spa. " Then they'll shut up and wait for you to incriminate yourself, or, tell them that unless they have a warrant, you want them off your property and not to come back without one. However, now you have to answer the question to your significant other, and she never needs a warrant and you have no Miranda rights. So, the cops have accomplished their goal of fucking up your life anyway. Pricks.
[QUOTE=Bones13;6102646]How did they get the license plates?[/QUOTE]After everything went down in Warren, it came up in the news that LE had gained permission of nearby businesses to put cameras up and record vehicles that entered the spa parking lots. There was one spa that got off easy because that same lot was used by customers of a bar, and it was hard to tell who was who. In general though, what others have said here sounds about right. Cops might not have any "proof" of anything you did, but they sure have your car in that lot, and so they can be disruptive in your life.
Remember, cameras can be mounted anywhere within range of what they want to see. Within range means a clear line from the camera to the object. And, it doesn't have to be close enough that anything can be made out with the human eye. They have cameras mounted on satellites in space that can see the pubic hairs on an ant crawling on the ground. And I am not bullshitting.
So there also are cameras so small, called pinhole cameras, that you can barely see them, think of the selfie camera on your phone. Simply drill a very small hole in a fence or a wall and mount it on the back. I'm sure we all can see what I mean. They also have cameras that can see infrared thru walls, as in two humans fucking on a bed on the other side of a wall. Not as good as a regular pic, just a heat outline, but you get the idea.
The key is if you get popped, what you say. And what you say is my name is Cheech, and my lawyer's phone number is!
And if you're just being questioned without being arrested, you better bet your ass that they are trying to hem you up one way or another, because if you say something incriminating they will use that to nail someone else and to try to come back to nail you.
Cheech.