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There was a WSW working the corner of Jane & Franklin Saturday night around 7. She was wearing a pink jacket and a pink hat, she looked pretty youn around 18 or 19. She had 2 guys sitting a couple of yards away talking with he. Any info about the girl? It looked like one of the guys might be her dad and the other her brother or boyfriend. Anyone else see her or pick her up. Just looking for a little recon before I. Give itg a go.
[QUOTE=Waxon1; 1339650]That reminds me about 3 years ago I had a half black / hispanic girl pull a knife on me and wanted my wallet I pulled a 32 cal. On her and told to get the hell out of my car or I would blow her F-ing head off.
That was over on the east side.[/QUOTE]Same here, I had a SW pull a knife on me down in the D and you would be suprised how fast a. 40 calms them down. I'm not a violent guy but if it comes down to it ill protect myself. I keep remebering about 3 years ago about the guy who was killed down by 6 mile and woodward and the whole debacle with the SP at that hotel parking lot a year and a half ago. Always be safe.
You and I are in the same camp.
I just want to protect myself as well that put the damper on me picking up SW for a long time and still not my Fav thing to do now after what happened to me.
[QUOTE=Akira317;1340698]Same here, I had a SW pull a knife on me down in the D and you would be suprised how fast a. 40 calms them down. I'm not a violent guy but if it comes down to it ill protect myself. I keep remebering about 3 years ago about the guy who was killed down by 6 mile and woodward and the whole debacle with the SP at that hotel parking lot a year and a half ago. Always be safe.[/QUOTE]
Had a car date with Laura a few nights ago, around 11 pm. She hangs at leith & minnesota and also around the burned out building on franklin. She usually has hair up in some kind of bun, but sometimes its all down and makes her look more attractive than she is LOL. I see her out a LOT and finally tried her out. Parked in her driveway for a quick. 2 session. She is so far the worst BBBJ on the strolls. Teeth, jerky, and rushed. Whole thing took less than 10 minutes but at least 3 times during it she stopped to question why it was taking so long (did you already get off today? Are you close yet? Etc etc). Claimed she is so good she usually does it in 90 seconds or less. Whatever. Took me longer than that to get over her scraping. Anyway, not planning to repeat.
I was staying over night in Flint on a recent trip. I had been texting and calling Amber for a week to try and set something up but she was ignoring me. Well about Chicago she calls me and we talk for a while and agree to meet when I am in town but we can not make it to late as she has to go to court in the morning. Well that just shot my detour through Battle Creek and a visit to see Eden. Sorry Eden.
I arrive in town and check in and head to the East side. I get to the house and wait. Someone tries to pull in behind me. Amber doesn't answer on three calls. Then text tag for a bit. Finally she comes out and gets in the car.
Amber is distracted. She has a court date tomorrow and she is worried that she may have to do jail time. We get to the room and get naked. Amber is pretty good but I can tell she is not into it as much as before. We still do BBBJ, DATY, and three positions CFS. I have not heard from her since so I would guess that her worst fears came true.
After dropping Amber off I am on my way to pick up Nichole and I see a nice looking black girl walking on Davidson. It is cold out and she is booking it. I offer her a ride. She has a real sad story but she is interesting to talk to and carries on a great conversation. I take her all over the east side looking for a late night restaurant where she can eat warm up and charge her phone. I give her my number and drop her off. I do not count her in the six above as no offers were made or accepted. Just a ride was given but if I had time I know more could have happened.
I pick up Nichole and we head back to my room. She offers hers but I am not comfortable with that. It may have been fine but I know my place is safe. I have seen Nichole before and she is a larger woman. Other than that we have a great time with the emphasis on DATY. I am OK with that. We still do BBBJ, and two positions CFS.
I drop her off and am getting ready to leave the east side when I think OK one more pass. As I am coming down Leith I think I will try Iowa as I have seen reports on success there. Well I never make it. Just off of Leith on Minnesota I see someone all bundled up. Swing around and pick up Krista. She is a redhead, older probably late 30s. Her body shows the wear and tear of four kids, etc. But she makes up for it with a great personality very affectionate and will do "everything" for $30. I am not that interested in Greek and this is not my first nut so I am not sure I could get it hard enough anyway. So I didn't try and thing special. She has a working number and I will share with seniors in good standing. I like this one. Be nice to her.
After dropping Krista off I came back through the Fenton Road. I saw a very good looking one that I didn't pick up because I hadn't scoped the area. She got scoop by another monger but I had the inside track if I wanted it. This fired me up and I did the recon and was comfortable but no talent was out. Saw a fat old one that didn't look to bad from a distance. I will learn not to do this with more experience. We start towards the room and we can not agree to a price. I tell her I am going back to drop her off. I should have but she pleaded with me for a chance at a car blow job for $20. Foolishly I agree and despite her best efforts and over a half hour of time I just tell her to give it up and I will give her the money because she never rushed me and never asked me if I was going to cum. I think I am drained.
On the way to drop her off I see a small woman dressed in a white coat. I ask who that is and she said Schnee. OK game on. Out the door and back to Schnee.
Schnee recognizes me and is happy to go to the room with me for the same price that the old fat one would not. It makes no sense to me.
Well Schnee has acne much worse than the last time I saw her and some sores on her legs. She has grown her Bush out but said that someone paid her $100 to do that and now she has the money and will be shaving soon. She is still fun but after DATY and two positions of CFS I am not maintaining a hard on. So we switch to BBBJ and she finishes me. After she cleans up and is dressed she wanted to know if I could pay her for FS even though we finished with oral or maybe split the difference. Nope I paid her the full amount and a tip besides. I hope that will pay off in even better service in the future.
Schnee has moved and has a new phone number. That is why I couldn't set something up with her before. So If you are a senior member and want her number PM me.
Well it is back to the room and a few hours of sleep and I am going to leave this great city.
On the way out of town after the room has been vacated I pick up another girl off of Franklin. I never got her name and I do not care. We went to a quiet place and tried the car date again. She was upselling and bitching finally it was worth the $20 just to get her out of the car. Oh yes she asked for a tip. No way.
So in one day I had four quality dates, two failed car dates and some numbers that I will use later. I hope. I saw one patrol that just looked like it was patrolling the streets and no one was hassled.
Well after a few days of family and friends I had to return to Flint.
I called Izzy, Jessica / Rose, and Krista. I never heard from Izzy until I was 500 miles away and several days late. Damn I wanted to see that girl after the stunning review given by Mw Jrp. Then when she called me and we talked I was very impressed with her phone skills.
I set something up with Jessica who is Rose's handler. I didn't have any internet for about a week and my memory was not up to the task. It seems that there is an east side Jessica that I called and a Fenton Road Jessica that would have been a better date if her handler was not pushing the time constraint buttons. The east side Jessica is older and heaver than I was hoping for. She was a pleasant person and we had a good session but it was not special. She said on the way back I should set something up with Rose. Earlier we talked about Rose and for being Rose's handler she doesn't know how to sell her client. According to her Rose doesn't use protection, uses lots of drugs, looks young but doesn't have any I'd says she is 19, and screws Jessica's baby daddy. Oh well I took a pass on this one this time.
I had something set up with Krista for in the morning so when she saw me drive by she called me and tried to talk me into an early date. I wanted the recovery time so I turned her down.
I am driving back to my room when the phone rings. Remember the black girl walking on a cold day from my previous post? Well it was her. She gives me an address and I head over there. It is a cheap motel room. We talk for a while and she is not putting any strong signal out. Finally she said she could use some help. Like maybe enough to stay in the room for an other night. I tell her I could help her for that price for half and half. She asks me what is half and half? I do not know if this is an act or if it is seriously her first time. She agrees then disagrees. We talk about other things. She looks troubled. Then she agrees. I ask her to get naked. She backs down and said no she could not do that. Now she is in her period and she is uncomfortable with. Finally she asks if I would pay her for a blow job. Nope I wasn't feeling it and I thanked her for remembering me and maybe we could see each other some other time. I left her $5 just because.
The morning comes early for me and I am raring to go. Two hours before my scheduled appointment with Krista. I call her up and her boyfriend answers the phone. She is in the shower and will call me back. 10 minutes later she does. Move it up no problem. Off I go to get her. Krista is a Redhead. She has a trimmed red landing patch to prove it. Her tits sag but she loves for you to suck on them. We did all the positions twice and had a great time. She did say something about time when we were approaching the two hour mark. I would have to hurry up as she could only stay about an other half hour. When we were done, cleaned up and ready to leave I asked her how much she was expecting for this morning. She gave me smile and said she would like a lot. So I asked her what would be reasonable. She came back with a number that was just a little less than what I had planned on giving her. When I gave her the extra she gave me a great hug and DFK along with a smile. She may not be the youngest or prettiest but she sure knows how to make a guy feel good. I asked about sharing her number with friends and she wanted to know if I wouldn't just rather keep her all to myself. Well I would if I could but I can't so seniors I will share.
I drop her off on Leith and turn south on Franklin. No plans just on my way out. Damn there is a good looking girl. Back around the block and she is working. Around the block again and I pick up Natalie. She is a WSW. 24 years old, of normal height and weight. Nice B cups with sensitive small nipples. No kids so her stomach is flat smooth and her giner is tight. She was very uncomfortable with my insistence that I do not pay until we are done. I put some money on the dresser to show her that I had some money.
We started with me sucking on her tits, on to DATY, I am getting into this when she wants to give me something. A nice BBBJ followed until I was firmed up and ready for some of the main event. On with the hat and I wanted mish. As I was pretty drained I stayed in mish and after about 10 I had a nice nut. As we were cleaning up she took the money off of the dresser. It was not what we agreed on as I had the rest of it in another pocket as I was not ready to pick anyone up when I saw her. She just nicely said that there was only $20 here. I fixed that with the rest and a nice tip as I told her "I do not stiff the girls for what I owe them" She wanted something to eat on the way home and when I paid for that also she was quite happy. No number for Natalie. Darn she is worth a repeat visit. If she would kiss she would be awesome.
I picked up Marsha after dropping off Natalie. Older woman maybe Native American. You make some mistakes when they are all bundled up. I knew as soon as she got into the car this was not working out. Gave her $2 and kicked her out. She didn't want to go but she had to.
Nothing else on the way out of town except I saw three cops on Fenton. Not sure what was going on but I was going out.
I know it will be way to long before I get back.
Monday evening I was out and about on the East side. Just after dark I ran into a gal named Shonda, I think. She's nice looking, like maybe a 7-8 or so with brown hair and bangs. Very pleasant, she told me exactly where she lived which was close to where I found her. Anyhow we settled on $.20 for a couple laps around the block. She smelled great and said she had just showered. I'm not positive of her name but she's very easy to find with the brown hair and bangs. I've been back twice looking for her with no luck. She's a repeat and I highly recommend her. She's very easy going, takes directions great and a good personality. I doubt she's been around long. I saw the usual black Suburban a few times that night, be careful and have fun.
I'm bad with names, I do my best but I do remember the important details. I've seen this woman that hangs out on the side of the Catholic Church all the time on Leith. She looks rough and is a little chunky but I've seen her so much I felt it was more trustworthy. I looped around the block and picked her up. She said she lived alone so I took her to her house. I don't think anyone was there. (it isn't foolproof but I was keeping my eyes wide open to be sure) She flopped the twins out and didn't let up until I was done. Not good looking, seems like a crack head but it was a nice job. She let me take a few pics of the deed and then went in the other room to spit. I don't think I will repeat there's a lot better around but all in all not a bad $.20 investment.
[QUOTE=Akira317;1340698]Same here, I had a SW pull a knife on me down in the D and you would be suprised how fast a. 40 calms them down. I'm not a violent guy but if it comes down to it ill protect myself. I keep remebering about 3 years ago about the guy who was killed down by 6 mile and woodward and the whole debacle with the SP at that hotel parking lot a year and a half ago. Always be safe.[/QUOTE]About 12 years ago in Detroit I stopped and quizzed a woman standing on a side street, very apparently working. (to me) She sniffed a couple of times and then took a good look at what all I might have in my car. I decided it was a bad idea and told her to forget it. I was very careful what I said to her, I know how a sting can work. I pulled away and was instantly surrounded by 3 or 4 police cars. (it's pretty confusing when you're being yelled at over a loud speaker with guns drawn on you) The call it a felony stop which means guns drawn, me laying face down on the pavement, etc. She of course was an undercover cop and said I asked her for things that I didn't. They made me empty my car and towed it and then left me on the side of the road with a ticket and all of my stuff. It's very simple, it's called nuisance abatement and is widely abused. I had two choices, plead guilty and pay the $1000. 00 fine, towing and impound fees or fight it. If you fight it they keep your car until you go to court which can be months. If you lose they keep your car. My point is this, the best thing of it all was I didn't have a weapon. It's just an opinon and I'm not judging anyone. I am however glad all my mistake cost me was the $1000. 00 fine, the $500. 00 attorney fee (guilty plea with a peroid of advisement and after six months it went away) plus the $300. 00 towing and impound fee. They won't let you pick your car up for 72 hours. I'm really glad there wasn't a weapons charge in there too. I hate it when I post on a forum and someone attacks me, I'm not doing that to anyone. I think you have to make your own decisions, this is just my story. Be safe out there.
[QUOTE=Allen2121;1343793]About 12 years ago in Detroit I stopped and quizzed a woman standing on a side street, very apparently working. (to me) She sniffed a couple of times and then took a good look at what all I might have in my car. I decided it was a bad idea and told her to forget it. I was very careful what I said to her, I know how a sting can work. I pulled away and was instantly surrounded by 3 or 4 police cars. (it's pretty confusing when you're being yelled at over a loud speaker with guns drawn on you) The call it a felony stop which means guns drawn, me laying face down on the pavement, etc. She of course was an undercover cop and said I asked her for things that I didn't. They made me empty my car and towed it and then left me on the side of the road with a ticket and all of my stuff. It's very simple, it's called nuisance abatement and is widely abused. I had two choices, plead guilty and pay the $1000. 00 fine, towing and impound fees or fight it. If you fight it they keep your car until you go to court which can be months. If you lose they keep your car. My point is this, the best thing of it all was I didn't have a weapon. It's just an opinon and I'm not judging anyone. I am however glad all my mistake cost me was the $1000. 00 fine, the $500. 00 attorney fee (guilty plea with a peroid of advisement and after six months it went away) plus the $300. 00 towing and impound fee. They won't let you pick your car up for 72 hours. I'm really glad there wasn't a weapons charge in there too. I hate it when I post on a forum and someone attacks me, I'm not doing that to anyone. I think you have to make your own decisions, this is just my story. Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]I see your point but with a cpl. No weapons charge I just believe in being safe some of the girls out there are pretty shady
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. JMO
[QUOTE=Allen2121;1343793]About 12 years ago in Detroit I stopped and quizzed a woman standing on a side street, very apparently working. (to me) She sniffed a couple of times and then took a good look at what all I might have in my car. I decided it was a bad idea and told her to forget it. I was very careful what I said to her, I know how a sting can work. I pulled away and was instantly surrounded by 3 or 4 police cars. (it's pretty confusing when you're being yelled at over a loud speaker with guns drawn on you) The call it a felony stop which means guns drawn, me laying face down on the pavement, etc. She of course was an undercover cop and said I asked her for things that I didn't. They made me empty my car and towed it and then left me on the side of the road with a ticket and all of my stuff. It's very simple, it's called nuisance abatement and is widely abused. I had two choices, plead guilty and pay the $1000. 00 fine, towing and impound fees or fight it. If you fight it they keep your car until you go to court which can be months. If you lose they keep your car. My point is this, the best thing of it all was I didn't have a weapon. It's just an opinon and I'm not judging anyone. I am however glad all my mistake cost me was the $1000. 00 fine, the $500. 00 attorney fee (guilty plea with a peroid of advisement and after six months it went away) plus the $300. 00 towing and impound fee. They won't let you pick your car up for 72 hours. I'm really glad there wasn't a weapons charge in there too. I hate it when I post on a forum and someone attacks me, I'm not doing that to anyone. I think you have to make your own decisions, this is just my story. Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]Definitely anything illegal is a bad idea. Weapons included. Some members may be licensed to carry however.
Went out last night for about 2 hours around 1230am saw rose but missed out so I kept trying and there was nothing out there that I have been with only 1 other girl on iowa. Finally rose was out again on Iowa scopped her up and agreed for usuall, Damn her tits are nice and perky there about a small see but damn she has a nice body, crazy hair almost everytime if she would get that undercontrol it would be a nice date. Took direction really well and is a deff repeat for me. She looks mixed she is about 5'4 110 lbs black hair really really curly frow for those of you new comers, usaually walks Iowa.
[QUOTE=Mister Slate;1344632]Definitely anything illegal is a bad idea. Weapons included. Some members may be licensed to carry however.[/QUOTE]And that's where it becomes problematic. Even if you are licensed to carry, if you get stopped in the commission of a crime and you're carrying legal or not, you can expect to get hit with an additional charge and you will also loose your right to carry in the future. You will need a lawyer to sort this one out.
Decided to make a trip up to heaven after studying the reports. I guess timing was wrong. Either they were taking time off for the holidays, didn't like being out with a little snow, or decided it was too cold. Either way, I checked out the areas and found nothing. There was one probably but came back around and no sign. The funny thing though was this one girl, going down the street pulling a suitcase. She never looked but was definitely strange. So after about 3 hours I decided I had had enough (not) fun and headed home. Will have to try again another time.
Even tried calling Amber and of course not working (at least the number I have)
[QUOTE=TwatTeaser;1347306]And that's where it becomes problematic. Even if you are licensed to carry, if you get stopped in the commission of a crime and you're carrying legal or not, you can expect to get hit with an additional charge and you will also loose your right to carry in the future. You will need a lawyer to sort this one out.[/QUOTE]Right, it would force you to lawyer up and fight the charge rather than bargain. And they count on the weakness of your explanation to overcome even perjury by the police witness. You would need a very good explanation for what you were doing there. Good point. You would be better off than illegally carrying but worse off than not carrying at all.
Was cruising the leith franklin area earlier in the week when I saw a cute little dark haired girl looking lonely on a corner. Scooped her up just off maryland & franklin. Name is Krissy, about 5'5" maybe 100, loooong dark curly hair in a pony, talks a lot about some book she is writing and views herself as very intelligent. On the good side she is a pleaser, likes to make people happy, and that resulted in great service. After some discussion and scoping, eventually went back to her garage (literally) for the date. All was safe and good and semi private. Provided great service BBBJCIM, no rush, no drama, very relaxed and anxious to please. Took instructions well and offered a full menu. The only bad thing I can say is she was skinny like a malnourished crackhead. The cuteness made up for it though. Will repeat.
[QUOTE=Savvy123;1347983]Was cruising the leith franklin area earlier in the week when I saw a cute little dark haired girl looking lonely on a corner. Scooped her up just off maryland & franklin. Name is Krissy, about 5'5" maybe 100, loooong dark curly hair in a pony, talks a lot about some book she is writing and views herself as very intelligent. On the good side she is a pleaser, likes to make people happy, and that resulted in great service. After some discussion and scoping, eventually went back to her garage (literally) for the date. All was safe and good and semi private. Provided great service BBBJCIM, no rush, no drama, very relaxed and anxious to please. Took instructions well and offered a full menu. The only bad thing I can say is she was skinny like a malnourished crackhead. The cuteness made up for it though. Will repeat.[/QUOTE]Available for literary colloquy with a happy ending. Great report.
Good report, but can you mention the donation and whether you think she would offer DFK and has digits? She sounds like a way above average SW that would be worth the effort to drive from Lansing if there were digits to contact.
[QUOTE=Savvy123;1347983]Was cruising the leith franklin area earlier in the week when I saw a cute little dark haired girl looking lonely on a corner. Scooped her up just off maryland & franklin. Name is Krissy, about 5'5" maybe 100, loooong dark curly hair in a pony, talks a lot about some book she is writing and views herself as very intelligent. On the good side she is a pleaser, likes to make people happy, and that resulted in great service. After some discussion and scoping, eventually went back to her garage (literally) for the date. All was safe and good and semi private. Provided great service BBBJCIM, no rush, no drama, very relaxed and anxious to please. Took instructions well and offered a full menu. The only bad thing I can say is she was skinny like a malnourished crackhead. The cuteness made up for it though. Will repeat.[/QUOTE]
That really sucks, overall, but I'm especially curious about the he-said / she-said part of it. Are you saying that the undercover can totally make up shit about what you said, even if you were extremely careful, and you still get jacked? Damn, methinks it'd be good to have a tape recorder on one's pocket that U-turn on before you make the stop. Oh well, I guess it was still clear what you were looking for, so maybe it wouldn't help. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Allen2121;1343793]I was very careful what I said to her, I know how a sting can work. I pulled away and was instantly surrounded by 3 or 4 police cars. (it's pretty confusing when you're being yelled at over a loud speaker with guns drawn on you) The call it a felony stop which means guns drawn, me laying face down on the pavement, etc. She of course was an undercover cop and said I asked her for things that I didn't.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1348525]That really sucks, overall, but I'm especially curious about the he-said / she-said part of it. Are you saying that the undercover can totally make up shit about what you said, even if you were extremely careful, and you still get jacked? Damn, methinks it'd be good to have a tape recorder on one's pocket that U-turn on before you make the stop. Oh well, I guess it was still clear what you were looking for, so maybe it wouldn't help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
That's what I meant about the explanation. So if you weren't trying to pick up a prostitute, what where you doing there? If there's no good answer to that question, your protests that they are lying about what was said don't carry much weight. Any carry issue goes down for the same reason. Once you admit you even pulled over and spoke to the decoy, it's difficult to explain what you were doing in a way that's not incriminating.
PSA Anyone who has been with Shonda recently needs to get checked. I caught the clap from her and it was just a BJ. And yes, it was definitely her I got it from.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1348525]That really sucks, overall, but I'm especially curious about the he-said / she-said part of it. Are you saying that the undercover can totally make up shit about what you said, even if you were extremely careful, and you still get jacked? Damn, methinks it'd be good to have a tape recorder on one's pocket that U-turn on before you make the stop. Oh well, I guess it was still clear what you were looking for, so maybe it wouldn't help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is a long video but it speaks the truth about what to do. Let's face it, once the lights go on, nothing you say is going to have them let you go but anything you do say can and WILL be used against you.
So sit back, relax, and watch this.
[url]http://youtu.be/6wXkI4t7nuc[/url]
[QUOTE=Mister Slate;1348711]That's what I meant about the explanation. So if you weren't trying to pick up a prostitute, what where you doing there? If there's no good answer to that question, your protests that they are lying about what was said don't carry much weight. Any carry issue goes down for the same reason. Once you admit you even pulled over and spoke to the decoy, it's difficult to explain what you were doing in a way that's not incriminating.[/QUOTE]It's also stacked against you even further in that Prostitution / Solicitation is the only crime where "intent" doesn't have to be proven.
"I just asked her if she needed a ride, this is a bad area you know"
"Tough Squat, she's a decoy and you approached"
Your lawyer can argue with the judge whether it can be assumed that you had a reasonable assumption to believe she was a SW. But I'm not sure it even matters given the above.
Preparing your BS story ahead of time is as important as scouting & doing your intel. Rehearse it in your head so it rolls off your tongue and you're calm and collective in your delivery. Any hesitation, nervousness, inconstancy, Umm's, and they know you're full of squat. Some will tell you to go home and others will want to practice their intimidation skills.
Stick to your story. If you're nailed, no ones asking for a story. If your not nailed, then why give them the rope to hang you with?
[QUOTE=TwatTeaser; 1348880]It's also stacked against you even further in that Prostitution / Solicitation is the only crime where "intent" doesn't have to be proven.
"I just asked her if she needed a ride, this is a bad area you know"
"Tough Squat, she's a decoy and you approached"
Your lawyer can argue with the judge whether it can be assumed that you had a reasonable assumption to believe she was a SW. But I'm not sure it even matters given the above.
Preparing your BS story ahead of time is as important as scouting & doing your intel. Rehearse it in your head so it rolls off your tongue and you're calm and collective in your delivery. Any hesitation, nervousness, inconstancy, Umm's, and they know you're full of squat. Some will tell you to go home and others will want to practice their intimidation skills.
Stick to your story. If you're nailed, no ones asking for a story. If your not nailed, then why give them the rope to hang you with?[/QUOTE]
I would not give them any story, if they ask you questions they are trying to use you as a witness against yourself which is protected by the 5th. Just say respectfully I have nothing to say. Either they have evidence or they don't, there is nothing to talk about.
If they do not just jump in the car, I always assume decoy. I politely ask for directions to the nearest freeway. Remember never talk through the window.
[QUOTE=Punishr;1348909]I would not give them any story, if they ask you questions they are trying to use you as a witness against yourself which is protected by the 5th. Just say respectfully I have nothing to say. Either they have evidence or they don't, there is nothing to talk about.[/QUOTE]
Have had 2 encounters with shelly over the past couple days. If you ever see a petite cutie little blonde ponytail walking fenton, thats her. She looks and is very clean, so much so that the first couple times I saw her I didn't partake for fear of an undercover op. Eventually the little head got the better of me and I scooped her up late Wednesday nite, wow was I glad! There are a couple old posts about her (now that I know who she is) and they are pretty accurate. She did want to do BBBJ while I drove but I said no and got a spot to park. She then perfermed excellent unrushed, no teeth, losts of saliva, BBBJCIM with spit service. Rate was. 30 and there was no making her move down from that amount. IMO it was worth every penny. Also I did not tip. Not that the service wasnt excellent. But because of the initial fee and the fact that I would have given her. 20 +10 anyway. Seeing that blonde pony bouncing in your lap. As oposed to hearing a crackhead *****. Was well worth the extra IMO.
I then did a FS hotel date with her (took her back to my place) another day. Again she just struck me as a gf or even an escort. She was still a bit shy but not when it came to service. Did half & half, cg, reverse cg, doggy, mish, then back to BBBJCIM to finish. Oh anal was not available, I didn't mind. She wanted. 8 but agreed to. 6 then I tipped. 1 for great service. Lasted quite a while and she didn't mention the time ever, even commented afterward that it was nice taking some time and not being done in 5 minutes. Says she only kisses sometimes, but she did with me.
Don't want to make this post too long, but I will give more info on her for those who want to read it. She is very clean, and kinda shy, almost acts like a non-pro. Says she doesn't like walking around too much or calling attention to herself so she can be hard to find. She parks her car in an area, then gets out every now and then, then back in the car to warm up or whatever. Says she doesn't do any hard drugs, and comes off that way. Not an obvious crackhead, methhead, smackwhore or whatever. Maybe its all an act (if so its a good one) but she almost seems girl-next-door ish.
Physically she is like 5'4".110, (I hugged & picked her up in hotel and she was short & light, just the way I like them) bleached blond, slim waist, nice ass, hot body, neatly trimmed, with slight sag to the boobs and slight belly pouch from childbirth. I listed her age as 28-ish as I'm not sure, she has a kid (a bit older) but she could easily pass for 21 or 22. Got a number but forgot to ask if I could give it out (again the shy thing) but will ask about it next time I see her. Which I will!
So in the end, a pretty hot blonde girl-next-door type. Great service if you're not put off by a slightly higher price point and the difficulty of finding her.
For those asking about krissy, donation was. 2 (her offer, no negotiation required) , she quoted FS at '30 or 40', yes in her real garage at her house, no idea about dfk but if I had to guess I'd say yes based on her personality, and she gave a number but 2 days later it was a dead end. I've been looking for her again but have not seen her since that night (althought its only been a week and pretty rainy / snowy / miserable out). You will know her from the long dark hair and pretty face.
[QUOTE=Punishr;1348909]I would not give them any story, if they ask you questions they are trying to use you as a witness against yourself which is protected by the 5th. Just say respectfully I have nothing to say. Either they have evidence or they don't, there is nothing to talk about.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct as far as arresting officers. As the video pointed out. This is an adversary relationship from the beginning and you are well advised to say nothing. If you are the worlds top defense attorney. You should be smart enough to keep your mouth shut if you are arrested. There is no advantage to saying anything for anyone. The man who acts as his own attorney has a fool for a client. Applies here.
This doesn't mean you don't need an explanation. You will eventually make a statement and have an explanation of your side of the case and that will involve explaining what you where doing there. What the police did. Etc. They are counting on their lies being more plausible than your lies. Once the story is you are in this bad neighborhood away from your usual travels and you pulled over to talk to this female officer dressed plausibly as a streetwalker. Why did you do that?
I hate the way this forum software forces my punctuation and wont allow an elipsis.
[QUOTE=Punishr;1348909]I would not give them any story, if they ask you questions they are trying to use you as a witness against yourself which is protected by the 5th. Just say respectfully I have nothing to say. Either they have evidence or they don't, there is nothing to talk about.[/QUOTE]That's fine and dandy for court TV and internet videos, but have you ever actually tried that one? Have you ever been stopped while on the prowl?
Every cop is different. Some are cool and some are major pricks. One things for sure though, if you're an a-hole you aren't going to win.
If I haven't done anything and no ones in the car with me and I'm being stopped for being out on the prowl, I'm certainly not going to reply with I plead the fifth.
I'm going to give a plausible story as to why I am where I am, we're both going to know it's BS, and I'm going to go home and sleep in my own bed that night. That's all it's about anyways. We know what you're up to, now go home.
Like I said, if you're busted you're busted. Then it it wise to keep your mouth shut other than to deny everything."tell us the truth and we'll be easy on you" equals BS. You just confessed to a crime and a leo is not going to walk away from someone who just confessed to a crime.
I got stopped late night once (not the first or the last time either) for being a smart arse and blowing the horn at a decoy. I was doing 50 mph and I knew she was a decoy, she's been out there for 5 years. That's why I blew the horn and kept on going. A mile up the road I got to spend the next 45 mins in the back of a patrol car while they ran good cop bad cop on me. When I got stopped bad cop asked where I was coming from. I told him "out with friends". Where you going?"Home". Then bad cop says; then why the hell are you cruising around the neighborhood over there looking for girls?
I said what are you talking about? I'm heading home. Oh' we saw you going up and down the streets over there. That was total BS be cause he had been in the gas station a mile up the road and pulled out and turned the lights on as I passed. I told him, No you didn't you're just pissed because I blew the horn at your decoy at 50 mph and kept on going.
That's when I got put in the back of the patrol car while bad cop ransacked my vehicle and good cop tried to buddy up with me. He tried to deny she was a decoy and I laughed at him and said okay then why aren't you over there dealing with her instead of me? When bad cop came back he tells me, I don't know where the hell you're coming from or what your doing but I suggested you get the hell out of here and don't let me stop you again. I was cocky enough already but had I been a real idiot I'm sure they could have messed my night up even more. I just figured It's probably better not to honk at decoys anymore.
[QUOTE=Mister Slate;1349246]This doesn't mean you don't need an explanation. You will eventually make a statement and have an explanation of your side of the case and that will involve explaining what you where doing there. What the police did. Etc. They are counting on their lies being more plausible than your lies. Once the story is you are in this bad neighborhood away from your usual travels and you pulled over to talk to this female officer dressed plausibly as a streetwalker. Why did you do that?[/QUOTE]The burden of proof is on them, beyond a reasonable doubt. LE does not have any rights / power to know ones travels, they are just trained to railroad citizens 5th amendment rights and people go right along with it. They are also trained / allowed to lie to get you to say anything to build their case.
[QUOTE=TwatTeaser;1349250]That's fine and dandy for court TV and internet videos, but have you ever actually tried that one? Have you ever been stopped while on the prowl?[/QUOTE]Two times I have been pulled over after picking up a girl, then dropping them off because I changed my mind.
The first time when I "explained", I lost my car, the second time when said respectfully officer I have nothing to say, I didn't lose my car. And the second time when in the back of their car, I was theatened that they would take my car unless I told them why I was in the area, I again said respectfully officer I have nothing to say just as I said initially. You have it backwards, respectfully invoking ones 5th amendment right is not being an a-hole. Think about it, we don't live in a police state, they don't have any right to know where / when I am going and what my "normal travels" are.
So TT you consented to a search that could have gotten yourself in trouble. You were detained at which time you should have requested an attorney.
[url]http://youtu.be/gmrbNLt7Om8[/url] Another good one to watch. 4 part series. I suggest watching it all.
Its not about going home per se because the police have already made the decision if you will before your are stopped. It is about making sure you don't end up with a record or bad things happen
I have dated Krissy several times. Her number is dead. I guess her bf hit her and she is moving. A while back I enjoyed Krissy & Izzy togather (.45) They where both in the freak & I caught them at the right time I guess! Krissy is better than average in FS & BJ if she likes you. YMMV. On a side note she did tell me that Izzy was shot & in the hospital & Christina (?) died of OD. Also Krissy will BB but I was told that she has / had the clap. Be safe & cover up!
Avoid Ellisha unless you are made of titanium alloy with teeth proof skin. First time I thought it was me, as I had an earlier date with Marsha. Second time I felt if she didn't grind off my skin with her teeth or tug hard enough to rip it off I might have enjoyed it. She is a larger 30 ish brown hair with a belly that covers up with a winter coat. Franklins strolls.
[QUOTE=Hot 666;1349493]I have dated Krissy several times. Her number is dead. I guess her bf hit her and she is moving. A while back I enjoyed Krissy & Izzy togather (.45) They where both in the freak & I caught them at the right time I guess! Krissy is better than average in FS & BJ if she likes you. YMMV. On a side note she did tell me that Izzy was shot & in the hospital & Christina (?) died of OD. Also Krissy will BB but I was told that she has / had the clap. Be safe & cover up![/QUOTE]Is this the same Christina that was / is a needle junkie? She had long dark brown hair, brown eyes and wore light purple Polish. Last summer I picked her up, saw the needle marks, paid her $20 and told her I wouldn't be dating her anymore. If she is dead, that would be a shame. She was a nice girl, never swore, and she was good in the sack.
Thanks for all the responses regarding getting pulled over. Some conflicting points, but altogether helpful stuff.
What happened to Salena?
Does anyone know?
Fellow Mongers.
I was with Nicole the other day, mid thirties, heavyset WSW hangs out on Franklin with Ellisa. She told me that Salena cleaned up her act and left the area. She believes she is out of state. She told me that Izzy was shot the other day in the face and died in the hospital, a guy she was with was also killed. I don't know Izzy, but another monger gave me her. I was never able to get through on her cell. My information is third hand and not cooberated by anyone else.
Hope this helps.
Be Careful Out There.
F. D.
A woman and a man were shot and killed in Flint the other day. From scuttlebutt I took it to be a payback (drugs maybe) on the guy and the woman happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Thats another element that we should try and remember. ANYBODY can be in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is a hobby that lends itself to women on the edge of society that maybe / and probably are involved with questionable / negative characters (No, not us!).
Be careful out there and pay attention always.
FTA
[url]http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2012/01/izetta_l_conley_dies_early_sun.html[/url]
FTA.
[QUOTE=Forever Det; 1353076]Fellow Mongers.
I was with Nicole the other day, mid thirties, heavyset WSW hangs out on Franklin with Ellisa. She told me that Salena cleaned up her act and left the area. She believes she is out of state. She told me that Izzy was shot the other day in the face and died in the hospital, a guy she was with was also killed. I don't know Izzy, but another monger gave me her. I was never able to get through on her cell. My information is third hand and not cooberated by anyone else.
Hope this helps.
Be Careful Out There.
F. D.[/QUOTE]