Ripoff Reports

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5750308]What's wrong with seeing girls in the boystown / Wrigleyville area?[/QUOTE]They might be Tgirls is the implication.

[QUOTE=Fdottt;5750991]They might be Tgirls is the implication.[/QUOTE]One of my ATFs lived in boystown, she had a child so there is no doubt in my mind her original gender. Only other woman I saw in the area was a body rub girl I saw when I was a newb. From my research they are out here tho some posing as regular girls. There was one posting in the Albany Park area that was attractive (Hispanic I believe) and I only noticed she was a TS because an alternate website I saw her posted on she admitted to being one but never did on LC, she never posted in the TS section either on LC. Based on reviews I'm guessing she had a full working vag as she allowed BBFS. I almost admittedly took the plunge but she raised her rates considerably which caused me to change my mind. Only after finding out awhile later she was TS did I revisit her pics and see subtly the masculine undertones.

Ripoff biotch with new number.

As I previously reported here:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7600-Ripoff-Reports&p=5626467&viewfull=1#post5626467[/URL]

This biotch will agree to anything to get the money, then will honor none of it.

Plus there's a second biotch showing there, too. AVOID!

New link with number.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/7739864476/1[/URL]

[QUOTE=CGuy2;5732173]Responded to an ad and corresponded via SnapChat with a potential cute provider.

The SnapChat should have been the give away. She asked for deposit bc she has been ripped off.

I continued to chat with her and said no, I would pay cash. She said yes.

She has a legitimate price point in her rates and I was hoping I found a diamond in the rough.

Get there at the agreed time and it is back to the deposit, CashApp, PayPal and Zelle or go buy a gift card.

Anyway I only wasted a half hour. There is another provider in the Clark / Belmont area that had an opening.

For your viewing pleasure.

Phone is 256-361- at #07.[/QUOTE]Might Inask what name she goes by on there?

Can't get any type of comments to stick or have favorite girls.

Then where I check for girls Rockford IL there's at times crossovers from Chicago page. This wouldn't be a issue for fact that 90% of those girls are Chicago only. Than that leads to comments of slander to the girls when they themselves didn't know their ad is in Rockford or Wisconsin page.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;5665309]Yeah, it's almost impossible to say anything negative in any detail on that site and if you keep trying you'll get banned.[/QUOTE]

Expressed interest with her and decided to do an incall. She asks my location which was irrelevant since I'm coming to her. She's not in the greatest area (west side) but I was near her location. She tells me half hour is only a hundo. Anyway the red flag came when she asked for a deposit which makes no sense especially from an indie. Appears to be a first time poster. Don't fall for it. I thought the donation was already TGTBT. Never send deposits especially and I mean especially if you are the one traveling or if you are sending them transportation. This person also kept messaging me after I decided not to get scammed.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/75262838[/URL]

Ripoff biotch with yet another new number. Keeps changing numbers.

As I previously reported here:

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7600-Ripoff-Reports&p=5626467&viewfull=1#post5626467[/URL]

This biotch will agree to anything to get the money, then will honor none of it.

Plus there's a second biotch showing there, too. AVOID!

New link with number.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/3128132473/1[/URL]

Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is [URL]https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/73500077?origin_place=eb_provider_list.[/URL] I hope I don't ruin her reputation.

[QUOTE=IrvingPark;5789106]Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is [URL]https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/73500077?origin_place=eb_provider_list.[/URL] I hope I don't ruin her reputation.[/QUOTE]What did you expect. You paid a deposit. Idiot.

[QUOTE=IrvingPark;5789106] I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened [/QUOTE]Oh I think we would.

Anyway, there's no point in shaming you over this because you clearly get it now, but there are several girls who were legit (and sometimes still are legit) who do these deposit scams. Sometimes they see an opportunity, sometimes is a need for quick cash, sometimes it's the addiction, but just because they have good reviews (assuming they're real reviews) still doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them a deposit.

The only exception I have ever made (and it was only once) was with a higher end girl. She was p411, had a pretty significant social media presence, had strong reviews by reputable reviewers on other sites, etc.

This girl is a ghost outside of Listcrawler. LC is too fringe to ever trust, and they rarely allow negative reviews. That is always a hard no for me.

[QUOTE=IrvingPark;5789106]Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is [URL]https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/73500077?origin_place=eb_provider_list.[/URL] I hope I don't ruin her reputation.[/QUOTE]If you've been lurking long enough or even a for a but you should know that sending deposits is never going to turn out the way you want unless you like throwing money out the window. I can also say that as someone who primarily sees women by outcall that I’ve never paid a deposit and I’ve had many attractive and above average looking women come to my place. Paying deposits changes the game and I’m seeing more and more women that never even mentioned them now making it mandatory. Once I see the word deposit mentioned in an ad or while we communicate I move on. I tell them I can only do cash.

[QUOTE=Jinurso;5789706]
... sometimes it's the addiction, but just because they have good reviews (assuming they're real reviews) still doesn't mean it's a good idea to give them a deposit.

The only exception I have ever made (and it was only once) was with a higher end girl. She was p411, had a pretty significant social media presence, had strong reviews by reputable reviewers on other sites, etc.
.[/QUOTE]Ditto to both. We increasingly hear of things going south with well reviewed girls. Especially LC reviews. On oThER site, you can see if a reviewer is real, on LC, much more difficult. Have to rely on memory / manually kept history.

I paid a 100 deposit to see Mya Michelle, and it worked ok. Not a bad time, but not a great connection, so probably won't repeat. (At 3, maybe, at 5 no.) But that's the level of presence and reviews all over that I need to see to even think of doing a deposit.

Look up the story of Grant Amato. Guy was sending thousands of dollars plus clothes and sex toys to some cam model he never met. Ended up killing his entire family to feed his addiction. It's guys like this more and more that women hear about that they feel they can live and not have any physical interaction with us and still get paid. I heard a girl on one app say "it's 2020, a girl would have to be a dummy to have sex for cash", she went on to talk about guys who paid her thousands for feet pics or hundreds for panties of a picture of her taking a dump. This ignores the fact that a lot of these women don't enjoy meeting random men let alone having sex with them. After hearing a story like Grant Amato, I'm sure the cam model he was sending money too is glad she never met him anyway. If a woman wants to make money off men without doing them then she can work a strip club. We are in a very pivotal time period in this hobby as there are a lot of new factors coming into place that are changing things forever. We should be the ones to dictate that as we are the consumers. Don't let these ladies set the rules, just move on and let your money do the voting.

[QUOTE=IrvingPark;5789106]Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is [URL]https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/73500077?origin_place=eb_provider_list.[/URL] I hope I don't ruin her reputation.[/QUOTE]Don't even begin to worry about her reputation.

I inquired about her several months ago on the forum and everyone who replied questioned her feminity or lack there of.

Since she was close to home I decided to check her out anyhow. Set up a time, typical 2 call set up, comes appt. Time, she doesn't answer, calls back 20 minutes later saying she was ready, but required a deposit, I refused, she bitched and moaned and tried to double her rate, I said see ya!

Probably one of my better decisions in the mongering world.

Also claimed that she worked out a nice condo and wasn't a cheap motel tramp. Yet she's doing car dates til 3:30 am?

Sorry for your loss, but you' re probably better off.

[QUOTE=RichL1234;5790862]Don't even begin to worry about her reputation.

I inquired about her several months ago on the forum and everyone who replied questioned her feminity or lack there of.

Since she was close to home I decided to check her out anyhow. Set up a time, typical 2 call set up, comes appt. Time, she doesn't answer, calls back 20 minutes later saying she was ready, but required a deposit, I refused, she bitched and moaned and tried to double her rate, I said see ya!

Probably one of my better decisions in the mongering world.

Also claimed that she worked out a nice condo and wasn't a cheap motel tramp. Yet she's doing car dates til 3:30 am?

Sorry for your loss, but you' re probably better off.[/QUOTE]This is seriously turning into the movie Idiocracy. In case you don't know look up the prostitute scene. Damn girl I'd pay you for tomorrow.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5790559]Look up the story of Grant Amato. Guy was sending thousands of dollars plus clothes and sex toys to some cam model he never met. Ended up killing his entire family to feed his addiction. It's guys like this more and more that women hear about that they feel they can live and not have any physical interaction with us and still get paid. I heard a girl on one app say "it's 2020, a girl would have to be a dummy to have sex for cash", she went on to talk about guys who paid her thousands for feet pics or hundreds for panties of a picture of her taking a dump. This ignores the fact that a lot of these women don't enjoy meeting random men let alone having sex with them. After hearing a story like Grant Amato, I'm sure the cam model he was sending money too is glad she never met him anyway. If a woman wants to make money off men without doing them then she can work a strip club. We are in a very pivotal time period in this hobby as there are a lot of new factors coming into place that are changing things forever. We should be the ones to dictate that as we are the consumers. Don't let these ladies set the rules, just move on and let your money do the voting.[/QUOTE]Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.

[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5792769]Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.[/QUOTE]This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!

[QUOTE=Jc2490;5792821]This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No![/QUOTE]

It’s the deposits, paying for subscriptions on content before meeting women as a requirement or as means of verification, guys seeking financial domination (with no sexual interaction) and other forms of payment not involving interaction that are killing the hobby in my opinion. Some of those women you describe are no good for the hobby either. But they may charge more to be low volume. It works as long as there’s still not a boatload of men knocking down the door else they will continue to see her rates rise.

[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5792769]Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed. But there are guys arguing that we shouldn't complain that we aren't paying the same for a hhr as we did 5-10 years ago and it should be expected. But as you mentioned it goes back to looks at its root. There are some drugged out, overweight, below average women demanding regular rates and that's fine but it should be the norm. Someone is forking over this money when you contact a girl like that and a week later she's already raising her rates. There have been plenty of women I've checked on that were very attractive and expensive and I contacted them months or a year later and not only do their rates drop but their menu expands. I don't go for the less attractive ones but my having a conversation with the more attractive ones I see, I often see them drop their rates because of low volume due to many thinking they are scams, catfish or set ups.

But I see this hobby trending in the direction where the influx of new girls coming in will be less and less. This new generation is too aware of cashapp, zelle, PayPal, chime and other electronic payment and along with only fans, Snapchat and other sites which negate physical interaction with guys who are willing to send money to someone they've never encountered, these women more and more will look to get money without any promise of meeting them. More women are transitioning into selling content. These women are in it for the money, not sex. If they can get money from you without having to perform then like in human nature they will do the least amount required. Even if only 10% of men in this hobby are seeking non physical interaction, if enough money can be made by it then why would they go thru the regular risk most providers do.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5793235]Yes indeed. But there are guys arguing that we shouldn't complain that we aren't paying the same for a hhr as we did 5-10 years ago and it should be expected. But as you mentioned it goes back to looks at its root. There are some drugged out, overweight, below average women demanding regular rates and that's fine but it should be the norm. Someone is forking over this money when you contact a girl like that and a week later she's already raising her rates. There have been plenty of women I've checked on that were very attractive and expensive and I contacted them months or a year later and not only do their rates drop but their menu expands. I don't go for the less attractive ones but my having a conversation with the more attractive ones I see, I often see them drop their rates because of low volume due to many thinking they are scams, catfish or set ups.

But I see this hobby trending in the direction where the influx of new girls coming in will be less and less. This new generation is too aware of cashapp, zelle, PayPal, chime and other electronic payment and along with only fans, Snapchat and other sites which negate physical interaction with guys who are willing to send money to someone they've never encountered, these women more and more will look to get money without any promise of meeting them. More women are transitioning into selling content. These women are in it for the money, not sex. If they can get money from you without having to perform then like in human nature they will do the least amount required. Even if only 10% of men in this hobby are seeking non physical interaction, if enough money can be made by it then why would they go thru the regular risk most providers do.[/QUOTE]Repeat tag line here. After getting burned once by the gift card thing, and most on this forum are adamant against doing this, I would say right out that I will not do anything with these outfits as folks here and elsewhere state that they are nearly always scams. Too bad that the original Backpage got careless, as it was much better as you could actually talk to the ladies. And to me that's another one for legalization or at least decriminalization, as then we could wipe the scammers off the map.

While we're at it, do you feel that sex work will ever be legal in most if not all of the US? So far efforts to do so have failed to bear fruit. Isn't it time that the PTB realize that prohibition of this activity hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago?

[QUOTE=Jc2490;5792821]This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No![/QUOTE]Nothing like picking up a deli clerk to wrap up my sausage and have her tenderize it! Games are ridiculous and prices are going through the roof! My last deli excursion started off this way. "How much for two large breasts and two juicy thighs"? Deli clerk: "That'll be 8. 99". Me: " Do you have take out"? Her (the 175#, 40 DDD, homely looking clerk: " That'll be one hundred". That was about six years ago. Last night (around closing time), same schpiel only I had to take her for coffee to feel me out. Two bills for BBBJ and cfs. Not bad and left drained. The only drawback was she smelt like pickled herring after we were done!

[QUOTE=Jc2490;5792821]This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No![/QUOTE]It's really crazy what some really poor looking women are asking for these days. Not to mention, ads are talking about all the things they won't do, wants deposits, and ridiculous rates. What a shitty timeline.

[QUOTE=Jc2490;5792821]This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No![/QUOTE]If anyone is willing to pay 500 or more, I strongly suggest going with agency girls. Most of these independent females are simply not worth the prices they are asking for. At least with an agency, like Alena Chicago, you pretty much know what you're getting, the prices are more consistent and there's probably less chance of one getting scammed. In fact, I honestly wouldn't even considering going over 400 with an independent female with only a few exceptions. And that's only because they used to work for agencies and have extremely good reviews.

And one last reminder. No deposits!

[QUOTE=MoneyT;5795889]If anyone is willing to pay 500 or more, I strongly suggest going with agency girls. Most of these independent females are simply not worth the prices they are asking for. At least with an agency, like Alena Chicago, you pretty much know what you're getting, the prices are more consistent and there's probably less chance of one getting scammed. In fact, I honestly wouldn't even considering going over 400 with an independent female with only a few exceptions. And that's only because they used to work for agencies and have extremely good reviews.

And one last reminder. No deposits![/QUOTE]Thank you as someone who is new to to this site are websites like alenachicago legit? I'm been trying to research escorts off of twitter, P411, TER, and eros. What would be your process of determining which are real or which are fake / cops.

She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.

[QUOTE=OldManDupage;5818764]She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.[/QUOTE]A link would help so we know who you're talking about. But can only blame yourself for sending that deposit. Let that be the last time. There are people making good money of deposits never providing a minute of service and are hiding behind fake pics.

[QUOTE=OldManDupage;5818764]She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.[/QUOTE]Never, ever advance any cash. Chances are that wasn't even a female in Chicago who scammed you. Online means it could be anyone, anywhere around the globe. Doesn't matter how well you feel you know the girl. It's a recipe for ruin.

I had one absolutely cute, absolutely young blond named Kat who was a trusted provider for more than one visit. The one time she needed cash first, she said she was going to run inside to her Grandmother's apartment to drop the money off. I was so dumb. Didn't know what apartment she went into and I guess it didn't matter because she never came back out, LOL.

[QUOTE=DrManhattan;5822173]Never, ever advance any cash. Chances are that wasn't even a female in Chicago who scammed you. Online means it could be anyone, anywhere around the globe. Doesn't matter how well you feel you know the girl. It's a recipe for ruin.

I had one absolutely cute, absolutely young blond named Kat who was a trusted provider for more than one visit. The one time she needed cash first, she said she was going to run inside to her Grandmother's apartment to drop the money off. I was so dumb. Didn't know what apartment she went into and I guess it didn't matter because she never came back out, LOL.[/QUOTE]And that is an old cabbie trick that was played on me back in the day in the cruel hard chi town city. I"ll be right back with the money. Well firstly the address given was not where she was going. She went into the alley way between buildings, walked through the alley and away she went. Probably to her real building through the back a few buildings away. Live and learn. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! Or so I have heard. Stosh be safe. p.s. also totally agree giving out a deposit is like flushing the money down the toilet except at least with the toilet one knows where it went!

[URL]https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/77054679[/URL]

After initial contact, trying to find out location, I was asked how long I wanted & do I have cash app.

My answer was no & whoever it was said bye.

I would avoid this one.

I feel like it is getting like you need to check this thread before you check the escort boards.

This link is to a scammer. The pictures are stolen from a cam model in Detroit.

I know this for a fact bc I know this cam model personally.

[URL]https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/24331559[/URL]

[URL]https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/1995798[/URL]

Called this one and made contact days later. Said to meet her at Lake St and 53. OH NO! Seniors should know what that is. Any way gets me to asking about all those gorgeous white girls on Adultsearch. Anyone have any luck with them other than the agency types? Some posts are like low cost, $170 for an hour with a a good looking twenty something girl. Tempting but radar goes off so I do not even want to call / text so they do not get my number. Just feels like greater chance of scam or LEO.

[QUOTE=CGuy2;5824683]I feel like it is getting like you need to check this thread before you check the escort boards.

This link is to a scammer. The pictures are stolen from a cam model in Detroit.

I know this for a fact bc I know this cam model personally.

[URL]https://megapersonals.eu/public/post_detail/24331559[/URL][/QUOTE]I am glad it is mentioned that the poster knows this girl personally as she should listen to him and then take appropriate action. The one time I called a supposed escort the scammer never removed the cam model's additional details so I called her. Been awhile so the details are fuzzy. The cam model acted like I didn't know what I was talking about and neither did she and on and on. So for me it was a case of no good deed goes unpunished. Again I hope that the model takes heed to someone who is attempting to help her out. Also agree in that stolen pictures, deposits and other assorted scams has become an epidemic these days. I always go back to my original comments in that we have the spendable cash or we would not be looking and responding on this site. If these dumb c**ts would just deliver what they say they will, use real pictures and keep the bf, pimp, hanger on er away from us they could make a decent sum of money without doing much except uncrossing their legs or opening their mouth. However, no they have to believe that oh they are so much smarter and slicker than we are they can scam us! Thanks for the post and the pic. Very cute lady BTW. Stosh.

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;5824717]I am glad it is mentioned that the poster knows this girl personally as she should listen to him and then take appropriate action. The one time I called a supposed escort the scammer never removed the cam model's additional details so I called her. Been awhile so the details are fuzzy. The cam model acted like I didn't know what I was talking about and neither did she and on and on. So for me it was a case of no good deed goes unpunished. Again I hope that the model takes heed to someone who is attempting to help her out. Also agree in that stolen pictures, deposits and other assorted scams has become an epidemic these days. I always go back to my original comments in that we have the spendable cash or we would not be looking and responding on this site. If these dumb c**ts would just deliver what they say they will, use real pictures and keep the bf, pimp, hanger on er away from us they could make a decent sum of money without doing much except uncrossing their legs or opening their mouth. However, no they have to believe that oh they are so much smarter and slicker than we are they can scam us! Thanks for the post and the pic. Very cute lady BTW. Stosh.[/QUOTE]Stosh, is it scamming, golden pussy or drugs that is destroying our hobby. I recently saw Madeline Moral. Cute but you can see that damage done in the time since the pictures were taken. Has a person there that leaves once you arrive. Pimp, BF or husband who knows. Her ask is 5$ and if she were straight she would be worth it, but damn the fentanyl opioid crisis really does hit home when you see a woman that is flushing her life away. Unfortunately, the state of the hobby's economy is driving me towards agency and travel experience. All I know is I have never seen it worse in Chicago.

[QUOTE=Quimby;5824700][URL]https://adultsearch.com/illinois/chicago/female-escorts/1995798[/URL]

Called this one and made contact days later. Said to meet her at Lake St and 53. OH NO! Seniors should know what that is. Any way gets me to asking about all those gorgeous white girls on Adultsearch. Anyone have any luck with them other than the agency types? Some posts are like low cost, $170 for an hour with a a good looking twenty something girl. Tempting but radar goes off so I do not even want to call / text so they do not get my number. Just feels like greater chance of scam or LEO.[/QUOTE]I always pass on contacting those beautiful white girls on AS. If the pics are high quality and the price is low ($200 or less), it has to be a scam or jack shack advert IMHO. On the rare occasion that one is real, you'd have to go through 50 fake ads before you found her. Juice isn't worth the squeeze to me.

I do think the girls in the body rub section of AS use their real pics more frequently, though you will still find several fakes.

-Jake.

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;5822335]And that is an old cabbie trick that was played on me back in the day in the cruel hard chi town city. I"ll be right back with the money. Well firstly the address given was not where she was going. She went into the alley way between buildings, walked through the alley and away she went. Probably to her real building through the back a few buildings away. Live and learn. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! Or so I have heard. Stosh be safe. p.s. also totally agree giving out a deposit is like flushing the money down the toilet except at least with the toilet one knows where it went![/QUOTE]Reminds me of one I saw probably 10 times or so, all great experiences. Even got a buddy and has us service us both for the same lost cost of 50 that we just split in half. Everything on the menu. Then one time had her meet me solo, again for 50 which she agreed to do for an overnight. She wanted to run next door and get some snacks for the night. Didn't have change and silly me gave her the whole 50 upfront. She left to the gas station. Several minutes went by and I knew it shouldn't have took that long. Walked next door and she was no where in sight. Gas station was literally next door and only 2 small aisles inside. Texted her and she responded she would be right back. Never seen or heard from her again which was fine. I ended up meeting one of my ATF that night which I replaced her with. She could've made much more but skipped town for a 50. Lesson learned but for a cheap sum I guess. But had she came back probably never would've met the other girl as she only posted a couple times ever.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8722336098/1[/URL]

Goes by Leah.

This one is a complete assshole. Avoid. Also an obvious user, probably why she's so messed up.

I had actually seen her once before and she was cool, if troubled, so I wasn't prepared for this. She's Not at all cool anymore!

I walked in, put down for a half hour. She started cleaning up her place. White powder in plain sight. In spite of multiple requests, she would not get down to business for most of 25 minutes, had a shitty attitude. Then she started laying out the rules, and there were *lots* of them. Her reviews say BBBJ, and I'd gotten that previously, but that's sure as hell not happening now. During this discussion she got argumentative and then kicked me out, while keeping my money.

This might be intentional, as her business plan, but in any case she's got a really nasty personality and a *very* limited menu.

Take the oldest looking picture and add 5 - 10 *hard* years.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5836532][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8722336098/1[/URL]

Goes by Leah.

This one is a complete assshole. Avoid. Also an obvious user, probably why she's so messed up.

I had actually seen her once before and she was cool, if troubled, so I wasn't prepared for this. She's Not at all cool anymore!

I walked in, put down for a half hour. She started cleaning up her place. White powder in plain sight. In spite of multiple requests, she would not get down to business for most of 25 minutes, had a shitty attitude. Then she started laying out the rules, and there were *lots* of them. Her reviews say BBBJ, and I'd gotten that previously, but that's sure as hell not happening now. During this discussion she got argumentative and then kicked me out, while keeping my money.

This might be intentional, as her business plan, but in any case she's got a really nasty personality and a *very* limited menu.

Take the oldest looking picture and add 5 - 10 *hard* years.[/QUOTE]Wow I had been wanting to see her for the longest but she either doesn't respond or posts when I'm busy. Think you mayve saved me because she's been on my to do list. I've had my eye on her since she was doing incalls in the city. But come to think of it she's been using those same pics since the BP days which like over 5 years ago now like you suggest their age is. I'm actually still interested but there's plenty others I'll visit meanwhile. No need to reinforce her bad behavior. She needs less business to bring her back down to earth apparently. Maybe something new as I've never seen anything bad written of her review wise.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5836633]Wow I had been wanting to see her for the longest but she either doesn't respond or posts when I'm busy. Think you mayve saved me because she's been on my to do list. I've had my eye on her since she was doing incalls in the city. But come to think of it she's been using those same pics since the BP days which like over 5 years ago now like you suggest their age is. I'm actually still interested but there's plenty others I'll visit meanwhile. No need to reinforce her bad behavior. She needs less business to bring her back down to earth apparently. Maybe something new as I've never seen anything bad written of her review wise.[/QUOTE]Yeah, as I said, last August she was troubled, but basically cool. This time she had absolutely sh! T attitude from the word go and it just got worse. One of her reviews on LC reflects some of the crap I saw, though. She was so bad, he left before she finished blowing him, apparently.

Better to just avoid, IMO.

[QUOTE=CGuy2;5824773]Stosh, is it scamming, golden pussy or drugs that is destroying our hobby. I recently saw Madeline Moral. Cute but you can see that damage done in the time since the pictures were taken. Has a person there that leaves once you arrive. Pimp, BF or husband who knows. Her ask is 5$ and if she were straight she would be worth it, but damn the fentanyl opioid crisis really does hit home when you see a woman that is flushing her life away. Unfortunately, the state of the hobby's economy is driving me towards agency and travel experience. All I know is I have never seen it worse in Chicago.[/QUOTE]However, I am seeing the prices skyrocket especially on eros with the travelers. The one or two girls I still track that travel stay pretty consistent, however I just looked at one this morning on eros coming in in April and she was like $1. 2 k an hour! This is not a porn star as sometimes one will see that one agency that will advertise when girls are doing that porn convention up the street in rosemont. This was just an everyday traveler, albeit pix extremely hot. I think it might be a combo of the pandemic sort of done, still can't travel without the face diaper though, and also when it hit things dried up as the travelers just weren't traveling at all or at least as much. The chicago eros seems to be filling in again which is usually at least 3 pages. As far as the scams go they exist because we are dumb enough to fall for them. Been there done that, however if we out them enough and they see that we are it might have some effect. The problem is as I see it that they can say anything they want about us and we have little or nothing to say about them. I mean once one is blacklisted by them just try and have it removed. I keep telling that old tired story of mine about the pro I knew as a sort of friend. Once she got pissed at me I mean she unloaded all over the net about what she thought of me. I tried to remove it and some was, however most they just tell you to go pound sand!

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5826139]Reminds me of one I saw probably 10 times or so, all great experiences. Even got a buddy and has us service us both for the same lost cost of 50 that we just split in half. Everything on the menu. Then one time had her meet me solo, again for 50 which she agreed to do for an overnight. She wanted to run next door and get some snacks for the night. Didn't have change and silly me gave her the whole 50 upfront. She left to the gas station. Several minutes went by and I knew it shouldn't have took that long. Walked next door and she was no where in sight. Gas station was literally next door and only 2 small aisles inside. Texted her and she responded she would be right back. Never seen or heard from her again which was fine. I ended up meeting one of my ATF that night which I replaced her with. She could've made much more but skipped town for a 50. Lesson learned but for a cheap sum I guess. But had she came back probably never would've met the other girl as she only posted a couple times ever.[/QUOTE]Yep and your example is perfect textbook in that they would rather go for the fast nickel than the slow dime! It's like the shacks. If they wouldn't bait with all of they are going to offer and just say oh you must pay such and such and you will get such and such. However, no they lure you in with a fee under a hundred bucks and then say it's in the thousands for anything to happen! Ditto strip joints in most cases. It's like way long term stupid, however there really is no long term with these stupid c**ts. Sort of like my flea markets. There is no yesterday and there is not tomorrow so if one sees something, work the price out, grab it and go! One may ask what these dumb f**ks are thinking? Really they aren't so if one starts from that premise one can accept their behavior more easily imo. Be careful gents. They are indeed out there!