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Guys, I'm just trying to get some intell on my favorite pastime. What I've been getting the past few days is a bunch of boys having arguing about who's dick is bigger, smarter, and most resistant to fire(fire RETARDant). Why don't we all go out and get laid, then we can write about it and use this forum for it's intended purpose!
GTR
[QUOTE=Dr.Monger]Did a loop of PP/C recently. Not even a skank or a fat chick to be seen. Back streets: empty. Main drag: empty. It was almost surreal. Headed up to Hambden. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Back to PP/C. Still nothing. Saw a hot blonde, but she actually was waiting for a bus, as she got on when it came by. It was like they were all hibernating.
Dr. Monger[/QUOTE]I agree with you. The well has been dry on the w/w/ loop for a few days, including this morning. CB has empty streets, except for one thin holocaust survivor. Way to scary for me.
I also agree with you regarding SB. Good commentary, but my guess is that he may be a waste of electrons. We shall see.
Sleeping Bag - we are all here for the hunt. Useful comments are good; humor is better. Ragging on other members is a waste of all our time, including yours.
Nat
Hit the loop early this morning nothing going on but Le everywhere did notice a couple of sw's but none to my liking.
[QUOTE=Nat Zass]I agree with you. The well has been dry on the w/w/ loop for a few days, including this morning. CB has empty streets, except for one thin holocaust survivor. Way to scary for me.
I also agree with you regarding SB. Good commentary, but my guess is that he may be a waste of electrons. We shall see.
Sleeping Bag - we are all here for the hunt. Useful comments are good; humor is better. Ragging on other members is a waste of all our time, including yours.
Nat[/QUOTE]
hey Nat!
Nice to see you around buddy. I was in B/CB a couple of times recently. Did not report because there was nothing to report, well one girl on 4th in Brooklyn but could not get a good read, so I passed. I do like the improvement to Fairhaven. The old roadway used to take a toll on my car! Its mich nicer now...
Dr. Monger
Did 1 lap around the P/P loop yesterday and the Doc was right it was a ghost town. That was around 3 o'clock pm.
Well it's certainly been busy on the board since I last checked in. I see that an old Senior has popped up (welcome back Nat), if we get Robux back we can have the band together again.
In all the hoopla with Squirt Bag two truly well written first posts were overlooked. They were done by Lokicue82. Coherent information, photos, and well written descriptions of what happened were all part of the posts.
What was clearly evident was the fact that he took the time to not only read the forum but to learn it, know it, and live it.
Well done.
Cloud
[QUOTE=Cloud William]Well it's certainly been busy on the board since I last checked in. I see that an old Senior has popped up (welcome back Nat), if we get Robux back we can have the band together again.
In all the hoopla with Squirt Bag two truly well written first posts were overlooked. They were done by Lokicue82. Coherent information, photos, and well written descriptions of what happened were all part of the posts.
What was clearly evident was the fact that he took the time to not only read the forum but to learn it, know it, and live it.
Well done.
Cloud[/QUOTE]
You know you are right, and I forgot to respond to Loki's question about CBJ vs. BBBJ. So here goes: To my (limited) knowledge, there have been no studies which document the difference. From a scientific standpoint, clearly a CBJ is much safer with regard to certain risks. Actually, HIV is not one of them, as it is well documented that saliva is not a good transport mechanism for the virus. That being said, she could still have semen in her mouth from a previous customer, which could have any and all kinds of malevolent bacteria and viral agents in it. Most STD's would need to enter your urethra to infect you (again, not HIV, which would need a break in the skin), so as a practical matter, a CBJ can provide an effective physical barrier. If you get a BBBJ, you can take some affirmative steps including asking her to gargle with an alcohol based mouthwash first, washinng yourself as soon as practically possible afterwards, and then urinating to clean out your urethra. None of these are guaranteed, as I previous advised, I took all these steps and still caught something. Easily cured by anti-biotics, fortunately. Since I have swithced over to cbj, I have not had to go back to the clinic even once. I was a regular customer when I was getting BBBJ.
In the real world, I have NEVER asked a civilian for a bbbj. I have no reason to, because I am usually certain they have not sucked a dick within an hour or two of sucking mine. And I have only had one problem with a civilian ever, and that was way before I ever picked up a student. Another factor I believe is your personal immunity. Some gents just never seem to get anything, or just never display symptoms. I think the latter group are the ones who pass things along.
Dr. Monger
When you can't find black SWs anywhere, you know things are tough.
Larry!
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If you don't feed a troll, it will go away...
:eek:
Picked up Stephanie 23 yo not sure if that is her real name someone else reported her name as Christy doubt very much there are two different girls from Guam working our streets.Actually thought she was about a 7 on a SW scale had a short skirt started with a bbbj reached under her skirt no panties nice played around there for awhile below average bj went for FS K9 standard tuition found her on Ramsay about 2 blocks up from Scarey on the stoops.
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]If you don't feed a troll, it will go away...
:eek:[/QUOTE]
Excellent advice that I give out all the time. And I presume that more troublemaking is going on. Jackson's advice on the main forum page is the absolutely the best. Use that "Ignore" function gents.
Dr. Monger
Picked up a skinny WSW on 4th and P. Brown Hair, Large Blue Eyes, Big Nose, Mouth full of Bad Teeth. Tad too nervouse to catch her name since I am new to this particular area. She Promised me the Moon & the Stars for 2 Jacks. Foolishly I paid. We parked and I let the trouser mouse out. She proceeds with a HJ and complains that this is not a good place to park. She then directs me to drive all over the place and suddenly gets out of the car at a light. Tells me to drive around the corner and that she will be right back. I agree because I am still thinking with the little head. That little voice kicks in and I know I have just been had. Circled around the block a couple more times and then spot her coming out of a little market with a bagful of groceries. This one has a pair of Brass Balls on her. Keep your distance. Karma is a MF, so I am sure she will meet the wrong guy one day that won't simply suck it up. Can't be the first or last time she does/did this.
I will be polite this time in keeping with proper responses.
RTFF or get the royal flame of board members !@!!!!
So, after RTFF for about a 10 days once I came across this forum I hit the street for the first time. First day I drove around CB/B area and Wilkens several times and was still very nervous. Also I ddin't see anything that interested me. So I just got familiar with the routes on that day. I went out again two days later and still was having trouble finding anything until I was in Wilkens area and saw Leah hangin out. I asked if she wanted a ride, drove around a couple of blocks, then she asked if I had a spot. I'm not taking these girls home with me, just not gonna happen, and I'm not quite familiar with the areas enough to take her picnicing or to a drive-in. So, even though I was nervous I went to her place. She got rid of, what she said was her roomate, and we went into her place.
She proved she wasn't LE by grabbing it and I felt more comfortable. SHe wanted a jackson and half for BBBJ caus eshe had to give half of jackson for the room. I said the going rate was a jackson. BJ was good, with CIM but not WS. I gave her the Jackson and tipped her the half. Felt generous.
This girl was alright looking, some tracks but didn't look brunt out and she was nice and calm. I got her number when I left and might see her again. Not bad for the first time I guess. If anyone has quality SW rate numbers and wants to exchnage please contact me. I'm not seeing that much quality SW when I go out in the afternoon as this is the only time I have available. Would love to merge resources with someone.
Cheers,
Ned
[QUOTE=Ned Flanders]So, after RTFF for about a 10 days once I came across this forum I hit the street for the first time. First day I drove around CB/B area and Wilkens several times and was still very nervous. Also I ddin't see anything that interested me. So I just got familiar with the routes on that day. I went out again two days later and still was having trouble finding anything until I was in Wilkens area and saw Leah hangin out. I asked if she wanted a ride, drove around a couple of blocks, then she asked if I had a spot. I'm not taking these girls home with me, just not gonna happen, and I'm not quite familiar with the areas enough to take her picnicing or to a drive-in. So, even though I was nervous I went to her place. She got rid of, what she said was her roomate, and we went into her place.
She proved she wasn't LE by grabbing it and I felt more comfortable. SHe wanted a jackson and half for BBBJ caus eshe had to give half of jackson for the room. I said the going rate was a jackson. BJ was good, with CIM but not WS. I gave her the Jackson and tipped her the half. Felt generous.
This girl was alright looking, some tracks but didn't look brunt out and she was nice and calm. I got her number when I left and might see her again. Not bad for the first time I guess. If anyone has quality SW rate numbers and wants to exchnage please contact me. I'm not seeing that much quality SW when I go out in the afternoon as this is the only time I have available. Would love to merge resources with someone.
Cheers,
Ned[/QUOTE]
Gentlemongers,
I don't think I stand alone when I say Bravo! to Ned. This report should be a shining light to all newbies. He RTFF, got out there and learned, and reported back.
To Ned directly I will say this board is the merger of resources. Just keep reading. You will learn the names of girls, post more reports, build a rapport with fellow hunters and maybe even get invited to a Round table or two. Once that is done, you probably won't need a merger, but you will have quite a few friends who can help with anything you need.
Welcome aboard.
Dr. Monger
You know some days you have it and some days you don't. I need to make a correction since it is too late for me to edit the post. In my response to Loki (and Cloud William) I indicated I have never asked a "civilian for a bbbj". I meant I never have asked a civilian for a "CBJ". Obviously in the context I clearly meant CBJ. I had a brain fart sorry all.
Dr. Monger
[QUOTE=Ned Flanders]So, after RTFF for about a 10 days once I came across this forum I hit the street for the first time. First day I drove around CB/B area and Wilkens several times and was still very nervous. [/QUOTE]
Good start, Ned. Keep reading the forum, especially the Baltimore Mongering Basics - for Newbies thread. Read it 2 or 3 times since there is a lot of very useful information to help keep you safe. It's a crash course on mongering.
You were very smart to take your time and drive around the various loops during daylight hours to familarize yourself with the area. Very good move.
You were also smart in not trying to force a pick up. If it doesn't feel right, back off and try another time. Better safe than sorry.
I would advise staying out of any of these girl's homes and/or trick pads until you gain a little more experience. You never know who might be hiding behind the door to rob you or do worse.
These girls know a lot of safe or relatively safe places to park for a car date. Follow your gut, if the place doesn't feel right try some where else.
Most of these girls will start their negotiations high and then settle for less (street price). Just let them know that you always pay the street rates and a tip will be forthcoming if you are pleased and not rushed. If they balk, start the car and offer to take them back. Once they hear that engine start, they will back down and accept what is offered. It beats going home without any money to show for her time.
Don't worry about being nervous. All of us are when picking up a new girl. It's an adrenalin rush. Just act calm and don't let them know you are new to the game or they will take advantage to you. These girls are very street smart and are always trying to size up a monger to see if he is a easy mark. Try to remember what you learned in the Basic Mongering thread and you will be okay.
Ned, you are off to a good start and I'll be anxious to follow your progress.
Keep up the good work and welcome to the Board.
BBB
[QUOTE=Ned Flanders]She wanted a jackson and half for BBBJ caus eshe had to give half of jackson for the room. I said the going rate was a jackson. BJ was good, with CIM but not WS. I gave her the Jackson and tipped her the half. Felt generous.[/QUOTE]
Ned - Welcome to the forum. I generally avoid going to these girls houses and have not done so in quite some time. However, in my experience the half-jackson for the room is not unusual. Most times it someone else's place that they're staying and that's whose looking for the ten spot. You'll often meet the "land lord" on your way to the room. In the past I've forked over the ten directly, or put it into my girls hand and seen her immediately hand it over.
That's not to say than a SW might not try to get the extra ten even when they know they won't really have to pay it, but just keep in mind that the half jack for your stay at one of the W&W palaces is not unheard of.
This goes to Amjad. DO NOT ever give specific locations on this board of where you go on your dates. You said you went to UMBC because the parking lot was always full there at around 4pm.
LE reads this board as much as the rest of us so unless you want them staking out the areas you report that you go I suggest you just say in your reports that you "took her to my spot". End of story.
-LM
I went cruising Sat night around 10 and 1 (to and from the Block) around Wilkens. I saw maybe one SW, but she was close to a LEO. She gave me the look, but there was a cop in an unmarked car at a stop sign ready to turn. It did not seem like a good pick up. I saw another police car on Wilkens and Monroe and LEO was walking to his car. I could not see what he had been doing. Overall though, hardly any LEO activity.
Since there was no SW activity, I decided to go home. I am not sure if it is getting cold, my timing, or other things have caused such poor results.
Decided to do the WW loop 11:00 on. Saw the tall thin Heather from
Cathrine area on Wilkens at the State diner using the phone. She look
nice, but looks very thin. I waved & drove by looking for something
different. Found cute little girl on Desota with short brown hair, very
petite, said her name was Laura. She had fair ability & tight kitty, standard
fee.
Drove around awhile & saw quite a few SW out & about. Not to much
LE as there was last nite. Good luck to everyone, be carefull
[QUOTE=Redd55]I am not sure if it is getting cold, my timing, or other things have caused such poor results.[/QUOTE]
Other things... like the general election that's being held on Tuesday? Things have been slow all around for a reason...
In other news, some intrepid newbie was spotted getting blocked in by LE trying to make a pickup in the alley next to Sherrie's last night.
I guess he should have RTFF'd.
Benchseats Rock
I hooked up with Debbie in Brooklyn (not to be confused with Debbie on Fairhaven) recently. We went to her place, which is not far from the stroll.
She looked cute when clothed, but horrid when clothing was removed (stretch marks galore). I had already requested an upgrade (I usually car date, so I decided to take advantage of having a room for once), so I went through with it. Service was okay, but not exceptional. I'm curious about the thoughts of others that have been with her, as I'm on the fence regarding her. She lives with at least one other SW (I believe her name is Wendy. Who, by the way, has lots of scabs, and I would stay far away from. Even though she seemed very friendly).
As for the Fairhaven Debbie, I highly recommend her. I've been with her twice, and has performed exceptionally well both times, with no rush. If you pick her up, treat her well.
I'll answer these in the body of your post.
[QUOTE=Amjad John]I have been paying a Jackson BJs for over 20 years, from Phoenix Arizona, to Hartford Connecticut to Paterson New Jersey to Baltimore Maryland, the Jackson has been good enouogh for me since 1987. But need a reality check:
1. What is the going rate for a HJ or BJ in Baltimore, say on Wilkens Ave., say for a 6/10 rated provider with acceptable attitude and performance?
$20 for a BJ, tip a fiver if she's good.
2. What is the going rate for car sex, for the same provider described above. I have heared frot he girls that it is $40?
That's about right. You could probably negotiate $30, if you're good at it.
3. What is the going rate for taking her to a motel for sex? I heared it s $80, because takes too long to drive, get the room, finsh, return?
Depends on how long you want her for. If you want two pops, $60-80 isn't too far out of line. This is a situation where you negotiate ahead of time.
Then I have 3 questions which more experienced mongs can answer:
1. How do you get ride of a situation where (after finishing), she starts telling you to go right and left, to get to her destination which proves too far form where you picked her up -- whats best thing to do or say?
Usually, if they've performed good service and have been pleasant, I'll take them most anywhere. If they're getting ridiculous about it, I'd just say this is as far as I'm taking you, get out.
2. She is getting in/out of the car before/after doing it, then at that moment a police car pulls fromot he opposit corder (face to face). What is the best thing to tell the officer, to avoid trouble? (my line: I was offering her a ride)
There's nothing wrong with giving someone a ride. Why would he think anything more had transpired?
3. She looked OK form a distance, but when she was inside the car she scared me (drunk, high, had tracks all over her arms), what is the best way to ask her to get off? (my line in the past: I am going to Main and Broadway, is your destination along my route?)
You can act all freaked out like you're having a panic attack and ask her to get out, RIGHT NOW!! Or you can say, sorry I thought you were someone else.
Check her out carefully as she nears your car. The best time to get rid of her is before she gets in your car.
To tell you the truth, I had a confrontation on an occasion or two, kicking girls out, but also on few occasions paid the girls in full, because of medical or other condition which was disturbing to see.
Your input is greatly appreciated. Thanks folks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Champ42]Picked up a skinny WSW on 4th and P. Brown Hair, Large Blue Eyes, Big Nose, Mouth full of Bad Teeth. Tad too nervouse to catch her name since I am new to this particular area. She Promised me the Moon & the Stars for 2 Jacks. Foolishly I paid. We parked and I let the trouser mouse out. She proceeds with a HJ and complains that this is not a good place to park. She then directs me to drive all over the place and suddenly gets out of the car at a light. Tells me to drive around the corner and that she will be right back. I agree because I am still thinking with the little head. That little voice kicks in and I know I have just been had. Circled around the block a couple more times and then spot her coming out of a little market with a bagful of groceries. This one has a pair of Brass Balls on her. Keep your distance. Karma is a MF, so I am sure she will meet the wrong guy one day that won't simply suck it up. Can't be the first or last time she does/did this.[/QUOTE]Next time you go on a run never and I mean never pay up front and never go to her spot. Remember those two rules and you will never go wrong, and oh yeah if she promises to rock your world and so on don't waste your time because usally the ones that brag that they are so good are usually the ones that suck.
[QUOTE=Champ42]She Promised me the Moon & the Stars for 2 Jacks. Foolishly I paid. We parked and I let the trouser mouse out. She proceeds with a HJ and complains that this is not a good place to park. She then directs me to drive all over the place and suddenly gets out of the car at a light. Tells me to drive around the corner and that she will be right back. [/QUOTE]
Champ, most of us have had to learn our lessons the hard way just like you did. The key here is to learn from your bad experiences and not make the same mistakes again.
I have had these girls request that I take them "shopping" first or pay them up front before any services are rendered. Once you pay them and allow them to get out of your car before finishing the deed, you can pretty well assume they will split and leave you dry.
To avoid these situations, tell them that you want to take care of business first before taking them to run an errand (to get a bite to eat). You are not their taxi. Do not let them talk you in taking them to cop. Remember, business first, everything else last.
If they request being paid up front, give them a partial token payment or show them you have the money. Do not give them full payment until after the deed.
Be specific when communicating what services you want and that you will pay the going street rates and a tip if you are pleased and not rushed. If she does not fulfill her part of the deal, like no kitty play or whatever, then no tip should be forthcoming or the payment reduced accordingly.
If you paid 2 Jacksons for a HJ, you paid too much. The going rate for a BJ/HJ is 1 Jackson. Don't over-pay.
Good luck out there and be safe.
BBB
[QUOTE=Amjad John]I have a question which more experienced mongers can answer: She is getting in/out of the car before/after doing it, then at that moment a police car pulls fromot he opposit corder (face to face). What is the best thing to tell the officer, to avoid trouble? (my line: I was offering her a ride). Your input is greatly appreciated. Thanks folks.[/QUOTE]
Amjad, if you are stopped by LE with a SW in your car and he asks you what you are doing with her, our standard answer has been to say that we are offering her a ride. Don't admit to anything else or let LE trick you in some manner to admitting that you know the girl is a SW.
This whole situation can get pretty dicey depending on the LEO who stops you. Some LEO's may cut you some slack if you are polite and non-mouthy and others may want to give you a hard time. It's the luck or bad luck of the draw.
LE can arrest you for almost anything, but getting a conviction is a different matter. He can arrest you for solicitation and being in the presence of a know prostitute.
Even when your case goes to court and the charges are dropped and/or you are acquitted, LE has won because your name will appear the paper for being arrested, your car impounded, you have to go to court, have to hire a lawyer, the embarrassment it has caused, etc.
Just stick to your story that you are just giving her a ride, don't admit that you know she is an SW, be polite, and hope for the best.
Don't depend on the SW to help you as she won't if they offer her a better deal. She'll turn on you in an instant if it is to her advantage.
BBB
[QUOTE=Bad Bad Boy]Amjad, if you are stopped by LE with a SW in your car and he asks you what you are doing with her, our standard answer has been to say that we are offering her a ride. Don't admit to anything else or let LE trick you in some manner to admitting that you know the girl is a SW.
This whole situation can get pretty dicey depending on the LEO who stops you. Some LEO's may cut you some slack if you are polite and non-mouthy and others may want to give you a hard time. It's the luck or bad luck of the draw.
LE can arrest you for almost anything, but getting a conviction is a different matter. He can arrest you for solicitation and being in the presence of a know prostitute.
Even when your case goes to court and the charges are dropped and/or you are acquitted, LE has won because your name will appear the paper for being arrested, your car impounded, you have to go to court, have to hire a lawyer, the embarrassment it has caused, etc.
Just stick to your story that you are just giving her a ride, don't admit that you know she is an SW, be polite, and hope for the best.
Don't depend on the SW to help you as she won't if they offer her a better deal. She'll turn on you in an instant if it is to her advantage.
BBB[/QUOTE]
I see girls thumbing a ride quite a bit. So if you pick one up you could be charged if she is a known SW. The monger is at the mercy of LE since LE can arrest you without seeing any actual act. Just seems like there should be a better pickup method. Like meeting in a bar, DD or convience store that whould be safer for both parties considering that most SW'ers phone numbers don'twork.
It's also strange that it seems alot of SW want to be picked up on the main drag and reluctant to more around the corner. Most will move but some
just want to stay out in the open on the nain drag. And there seems to be plenty of mongers willing to do the pickup in open areas that can be see from
alot of angles. LE lately have been parked not only on main drags but in places that I would not expect. And they are parked watching Sw'ers.
Hopefully, things will get back to more normal after the elections.
22 Rules for SW Mongering
1. IS SHE? - It ain't like in the movies -They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. THE PICKUP - Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you - smile back at her, dummy! - then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past - and then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling - invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS - Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy... On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view - you can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick - she doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS - If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you), be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot - or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
14. If you go back to her place - are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot - since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house - are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
17. WALLET - Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working...
18. MONEY - Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ, 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more" - the word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really - I mean it!), and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS: They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
20. CFS!!! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means, "I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your # - which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe
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First of two parts - While just a teenager in the 1970s, she danced on The Block, where she snorted cocaine and heroin and sold sex in back rooms. Later, with her addictions firmly rooted, she set out on her own, offering her body on the streets of West Baltimore as a deadly virus was spreading.
The years have worn away at Sharon Williams, whose deeply lined face, reddened eyes and pained expressions tell of poor health, nights in abandoned buildings and customers like the man who kicked her down a flight of stairs, breaking two ribs and puncturing a lung.
Yet she remained a prostitute to support herself and her habits. Not even the discovery 12 years ago that she had been infected with HIV changed that. She also counts herself among the many addicted women who, despite knowing the risks, have given in to customers who refuse to wear condoms.
Baltimore moved higher on a list kept by the federal government of areas where AIDS infections are spreading fastest. The city had been fifth in the previous count.
Metropolitan area rankings of reported AIDS cases during 2005 per 100,000 population.
Metropolitan area
Number
of cases Rate
Miami 2,435 44.9
Baltimore 1,074 40.4
Memphis 420 33.3
New York 6,150 32.8
Atlanta 1,587 32.3
Baton Rouge 225 30.7
New Orleans 400 30.3
San Juan, Puerto Rico 746 28.9
Orlando 551 28.5
Jackson, Miss. 142 27.2
Includes Baltimore City, and Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Carroll, Harford, Howard and Queen Anne's counties. Of the 1,074 cases, 80% were within Baltimore City limits.
Source: Maryland Aids Administration
"They'll do anything for a high," Williams said. "If they want money enough, they'll agree to it. I've slipped up once in a while."
The sale of sex for drug money is an important but largely overlooked reason why Baltimore has the nation's second-highest rate of AIDS diagnoses, trailing only Miami. By the end of last year, almost 16,000 city residents were living with HIV or AIDS.
Women desperate for their next fix and men willing to risk their health for cheap sex are partners in an epidemic that shows no signs of ending. Experts consider prostitutes to be "core transmitters" because of their high infection rates and large numbers of partners.
Therapeutic advances have prolonged life while education has lowered the overall HIV infection rate. Still, the death toll from AIDS continues to mount, reaching almost 9,800 in Baltimore since the epidemic began in the early 1980s. The disease has devastated families, leaving children without parents and often killing multiple relatives. It is the leading cause of death among adults 35 to 44 years of age, surpassing homicide, and has had a corrosive effect on neighborhoods already beset by poverty, crime and homelessness.
At last count, Baltimore's rate of new AIDS diagnoses was nearly three times the nation's, 21 percent higher than New York's and almost double San Francisco's - two cities that people more commonly associate with the epidemic.
In certain parts of the city, the impact is even more striking. In ZIP code 21217, which includes Sandtown-Winchester and the Pennsylvania Avenue corridor, the percentage of people living with HIV/AIDS is 15 times the national average.
Public health authorities have been slow to address the connection between AIDS and what some experts call "survival sex," in part because the people involved are elusive and their role hard to quantify. Most of the women have been addicted to drugs and, in some cases, ensnared in prostitution since childhood. Many are homeless, wandering from one abandoned building to another.
The prevalence of crack
A key part of the sex trade, epidemiologists say, is crack cocaine. The drug produces an intense high followed quickly by a crushing depression that can be relieved only by smoking more. Crack, which has been a major presence in Baltimore since the early 1990s, drives many female addicts into a relentless cycle of drug-seeking and prostitution.
"They have a lot of partners to sustain their habits," said Dr. Jacques Normand, chief of the AIDS program at the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "There is no question in this country that there's a substantial epidemiological relationship between crack and HIV transmission. It all comes down to the trading of sex and drugs."
Terry Brown, vice president of Baltimore Behavioral Health, daily sees the link between drug use and prostitution among the women who enter his drug treatment center. "I would say that if we have a woman who is a substance abuser, is unemployed and has no income, the way she supports her habit is the sex trade," said Brown, who is co-chairman of the city's Commission on HIV/AIDS Prevention and Treatment.
In a months-long examination, The Sun interviewed physicians, advocates, social workers, addiction counselors and public health experts to learn how the sex trade contributes to the greater epidemic. The best understanding, however, comes from the stories shared by nearly 20 women who have fed their addictions this way.
Many of the women were initiated into prostitution around puberty. Several told of childhoods in which fathers or relatives forced them to have sex with men to support their own drug habits. Soon the girls were getting high to numb their shame.
As women selling sex for drugs, many have been routinely exposed to beatings, robberies and sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV.
"They're holding on for dear life," said Sidney Ford, who runs a drop-in center on West Pratt Street called You Are Never Alone. "They feel they're doing all they can to keep that grasp on what little bit of life they see is left for them."
In Baltimore, the neighborhoods most afflicted by HIV/AIDS flank downtown, sweeping past Johns Hopkins Hospital on the east and curving from Druid Hill Park past Carroll Park on the west. They are the same ones heavy with drug dealers, jobless residents and prostitutes.
About dusk one day, a stream of young people traipsed north from Pigtown to Sandtown in search of drugs. Hours later, their purchases completed, they hurried home along streets where prostitutes struck solitary poses. The women wore blank expressions and shabby clothes as they awaited passers-by and motorists.
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The women were black and white, teenage to middle age.
Sgt. Sean Mahoney, who patrols the Western District, observes this ragged commerce night after night. Along Wilkens Avenue and Washington Boulevard, he addresses many of the women by name and knows their stories.
"They've been treated like crap all their lives by their parents, by their men," said Mahoney. "Drugs are an escape."
Nation's Top 10
Baltimore moved higher on a list kept by the federal government of areas where AIDS infections are spreading fastest. The city had been fifth in the previous count.
Drug use and prostitution have long been a part of Sharon Williams' life. She failed as a Fells Point waitress because of her addiction but became an attraction on west-side streets where, in her heyday, "I was one of the prettiest girls in the neighborhood."
Back then, men approached her for sex as she walked along Ramsay and Carey streets wearing hot pants. On a typical day, she said, she had four "johns." With a touch of pride, she said she made to afford her own place to live.
But she lost that a long time ago. This summer, she was finding refuge in an abandoned Formstone-faced rowhouse just north of Carroll Park. To get there, she walked up an alley and scaled a low stone wall to enter a kitchen with empty cabinets and ankle-deep trash.
Up a flight of stairs were two bedrooms. The one where she slept had two bare mattresses and a mural of a toucan in a tree that someone had defaced by painting an obscenity. Strewn about were empty malt liquor bottles, frayed insulation and dirty clothes. On the torn edge of a drop ceiling, she had stashed her needle and tools.
Soon, she was feeling the effects of a heroin injection. Her head dropped to her chest, straight brown hair cascading over her face. Suddenly, she cried out to no one in particular, "How many times?"
She scratched her head and rubbed her eyes with puffy hands that are common among people whose veins have collapsed from shooting drugs. Minutes later, she rose and stooped over a chair. Holding onto the armrests for support, she murmured incoherently before calling out, "Oh, my God. I'm still here. Still here, all right."
That she's still here at 45 is remarkable.
Williams spent most of her childhood in foster care but ran away at 15. By 17, she began dancing on The Block, the stretch of bars and strip joints on East Baltimore Street. She has been addicted to heroin and cocaine for more than 25 years, she said, and has been prostituting herself about that long.
The men she cared about were users, too.
On her arms are the tattooed names of long-ago boyfriends. On her left arm is written Richard, a strip-club doorman who died when he slammed his sports car into a tractor-trailer while high on cocaine, she said. On her right arm is Buddy, her first love, who died of a heroin overdose.
"I'm beginning to feel like the black widow," Williams said, going on to describe how her fiance, Paul, used drugs and died of AIDS in 2003. AIDS later claimed his brother too.
Like many people with multiple risk factors, Williams can only speculate how she contracted the virus. Paul may have given it to her. In her family, there was precedent for this. She said her elder sister died of AIDS in 1995, having caught the virus from a drug-using boyfriend.
Then again, she said she might have gotten it from a fellow drug user who stuck a needle into her cooker, a large bottle cap that she had used to dissolve heroin into an injectable liquid.
Williams said she doesn't always tell customers about her HIV status. One man, she said, was so enraged after she belatedly told him that "he put his car in reverse and tried to run me over."
Among women who trade sex, studies find infection rates as high as 30 percent in locales around the nation. Such studies haven't been done in Baltimore, though several nonprofit groups that serve this population report rates that are similar or higher.
In general, the odds of an infected woman spreading the virus to a man through sex are lower than the odds of a man transmitting HIV to a woman. For female-to-male transmission, the risk might be as low as one in 1,000 for a single act of intercourse. Increases in risk
3.But the risk rises steeply if certain conditions are met. A woman with a genital sore is more contagious. An uncircumcised man is more susceptible. A woman who has gone untreated might have more virus to shed.
The risk, studies have shown, can rise as high as one in four, depending on which conditions are met.
"The likelihood they will infect someone keeps going up because of the probabilities," said Dr. Thomas Quinn, infectious disease professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. "If the odds are one out of 10 and someone has sex with 10 people, then one is going to get infected."
Nation's Top 10
Baltimore moved higher on a list kept by the federal government of areas where AIDS infections are spreading fastest. The city had been fifth in the previous count.
Metropolitan area rankings of reported AIDS cases during 2005 per 100,000 population.
Many of those who trade sex for drugs have sexually transmitted infections such as syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia, which boost their susceptibility to HIV - and the potential to pass it along. People who have lesions caused by these infections are three to six times more likely to spread the virus in a single act of sex, according to experts.
"Their primary focus is on getting high," said Dr. Jonathan Zenilman, chief of infectious diseases at Johns Hopkins' Bayview Medical Center. "They may ignore symptoms of STIs, ulcerations. They are chronically ill, a lot of them."
For years, Williams devoted herself to her addictions and little else. Last spring, she estimated that she had been spending $20 to $30 a day for heroin, and $100 to $200 for crack. She raised some of the money by "tricking" and some by securing drugs for others. She has a criminal record that includes convictions for drug possession, burglary and prostitution.
She took HIV medications in the late 1990s in a prison health program supervised by Johns Hopkins Hospital but drifted out of therapy after her release, according to records at the University of Maryland's Evelyn Jordan Center, where she is an occasional patient She gave doctors there permission to discuss her medical history.
In April, after failing to show up for two medical appointments on the same day, she confessed that she was busy "using." Doctors had no opportunity to examine her until June, when she went to the University of Maryland Medical Center emergency room after a beating. There, doctors treated her wounds but also discovered a sexually transmitted disease.
"The fact that she has gonorrhea means she's having unprotected sex and [potentially] spreading HIV as well," said Dr. Ronald Reisler, her doctor at the center.
It was the latest in a string of infections that included syphilis. She also has hepatitis C, which is spread by dirty needles. Last year, a blood test indicated that her HIV infection had worsened, compromising her immune system.
"The problem is, she doesn't come to clinic, doesn't take medicines," he said. "If she continues on this path, I would expect her life expectancy to be short."
During the summer, Williams was back at the emergency room with a painful abscess in her calf at the spot where she had repeatedly injected heroin. As it turned out, her trip to the hospital was fortunate.
Doctors not only treated her abscess but also referred her to a methadone program that she has begun to view as a springboard to stability and legitimate employment. She attends daily support groups and sees a counselor who is helping her organize her life. For now, she is living with a sister near Hollins Market, though Williams occasionally ends up homeless after disagreements.
Weeks into treatment, she reports that she hasn't been tempted by heroin but did smoke crack when friends lit up a pipe. Afterward, Williams said, she was "miserable" with regret.
The link between crack, risky sex and the virus has not been well-studied in Baltimore. But in Miami, which has the nation's highest AIDS rate, a study among female crack addicts provides some insight.
There, the drug of choice is overwhelmingly crack, in contrast to Baltimore, where heroin and crack addiction are intertwined. But the Miami experience shows the role that crack can play in motivating prostitutes to seek one customer after another, said Dr. Toya Brewer of the University of Miami.
Brewer set out to measure sexual risk-taking among female crack addicts. A majority had at least one paying customer. Three-quarters who were HIV-negative engaged in unprotected sex. Among those who were positive, 56 percent had unprotected sex - a smaller percentage, but a majority nonetheless.
Sex-trading addicts draw customers from inside and outside their social circles. "They can be linked to people who are not in their group who in turn spread HIV in the larger community," Brewer said. "Some of them are exposing others; the rest are exposing themselves."
While prostitution can result in sexual transmission of HIV, it does not show up in federal statistics that characterize the epidemic. "Intravenous drug use is considered a recognizable risk factor, whereas having sex for crack does not fit into one of the defined categories," Brewer said.
In Baltimore, scientists hope to learn more about the link between prostitution and AIDS from a study of sexual transmission in neighborhoods with severe poverty and high rates of HIV infection. The survey is part of a larger national look at heterosexual transmission being overseen by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
4.The researchers, with the Maryland AIDS Administration and the Johns Hopkins University, have begun recruiting 750 adults who will submit to HIV blood tests and recount their sexual and drug histories. The survey, among other things, asks specific questions about the trading of sex for money, drugs or other favors.
"Rather than being filtered through a physician's report, we're getting a better picture of the mixture of risk behaviors that need to be addressed," said epidemiologist Colin Flynn of the AIDS administration. "We'll use this to guide our prevention programs."
Prostitution, which has a long history in Baltimore, increased noticeably with the arrival of crack in the 1990s. Public health authorities believe that it triggered a syphilis outbreak, which they eventually quelled by offering testing and antibiotics in the worst drug neighborhoods.
But reducing prostitution was far more difficult. Dr. Peter L. Beilenson, then the city health commissioner, said he is convinced that the sex-for-drugs trade was one of the main forces driving the HIV epidemic during his 13-year tenure.
"They're not an easy group to reach," he said. "They're not all in the Route 40 corridor or even in hotel rooms, where some of the prostitution occurs."
The city sex trade ripples beyond the neighborhoods where it is concentrated. Just as people drive into the city for drugs, men from outlying areas cruise the streets for sex, running the risk of becoming infected and passing the virus to their spouses or other partners.
How many women sell sex in Baltimore remains unknown, although advocates for them contend that there could be thousands. About 700 visit two drop-in centers, and 1,000 prostitution cases are filed annually in District Court. That number probably includes multiple cases for some women, according to a prosecutor. On the other hand, many go undetected.
Some women don't work the streets at all, trading sex instead with male drug dealers and acquaintances. Some accept as little as $5 but say they are frequently offered more for sex without a condom. The women are engaged in a relentless if dangerous struggle - not only for drugs but also for the necessities of life.
"It could be for money, food or clothing," said Dr. Susan Sherman, a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist who refers to their work "survival sex." "It could be for cigarettes, drugs, anything."
You Are Never Alone
Sidney Ford left her job as a hospital social worker a decade ago after she read of two prostitutes who had been chained and tortured in a basement. "I started going to the brothels, saw the vulnerabilities, women who early in adolescence were raped by their fathers, boyfriends," she said. For some, sexual abuse began when they were even younger than that.
Ford founded You Are Never Alone to break the pattern that this kind of abuse established. She placed the center in a Carrollton Ridge neighborhood that is well-known for drug activity and the sex trade associated with it.
Outside is a constant flow of men and women, black and white, many with unsightly needle tracks on their arms and necks. Young men wearing the colors of local gangs can be seen stuffing bills into barely open fists. Other men amble by, pushing shopping carts filled with scavenged aluminum and copper that can be turned into cash.
Merchants trace the neighborhood's decline to the arrival of crack over a dozen years ago. Craig Strohmer, who operates a nearby hardware store that has been in his family for more than 100 years, recalled the exodus of middle-class families that coincided with the proliferation of corner drug dealers. Landlords abandoned their properties. Mom and pop stores closed.
At her center, Ford sometimes has to shoo away dealers and addicts who congregate nervously in the backyard of an adjacent rowhouse.
She hopes to help the women inside avoid drugs or find inspiration to shake them. A realist, she said many of her clients won't do so until they are ready, and she displays enormous patience with those who struggle.
"They're not in a state emotionally or physically or intellectually to be able to plan, to think about a future," said Ford.
Ford tries to create an environment in which women feel safe and can at least begin to envision something better. Some come for the basics. They shower, eat lunch, engage in banter and assemble outfits from piles of donated clothing.
Many go beyond that. They might meet with Ford to discuss the emotional wreckage left by years of childhood abuse. They may consult a nurse practitioner from Healthcare for the Homeless about routine medical problems or get a referral to free HIV treatment. About a third of the women have the virus, Ford said. Many have never been in treatment.
Eventually, women may decide to attend weekly support groups in which they learn skills as basic as how to say no. Ford and Tim Bridges, the assistant director, help them navigate the bureaucratic labyrinth that keeps many from getting drug treatment or public assistance. Bridges also assists some who are fresh out of prison.
Recently, Sharon Williams bounded into the center carrying a purse stuffed with prescriptions for a stomach ailment and other ills being addressed at the Evelyn Jordan Center. Perhaps, she said, she will one day begin treatment for hepatitis C and, finally, HIV.
None of that will happen if she doesn't learn to manage the details of daily living. Fishing through her purse, she located a scrap of paper that may represent the first steps toward accomplishing that.
It contained a "to do" list that her methadone counselor suggested that she update on a daily basis. On it were tasks such as obtaining proof of her divorce, documentation that she would need to obtain from a government records office to qualify for Medicaid.
She had no idea whom to call or where to go but seemed energized by the task.
"I've started writing goals," Williams said. "I make four goals on a piece of paper. Even if I do one and write 'completed,' it makes me feel good."
Your chances of catching anything with a CBJ are virtually impossible. With BBBJ you can catch Herpes or even chlamadya if the girls throat is infected (the girl usually has a nasty soar throat).
Herpes is harder to guard against since the girl could be contagious but not have any symptoms.
[QUOTE=Lokicue82]How safe are cbj compared to BBBJ? Can I still catch anything with a cbj? And during the act let's say the helmet broke. Does that increase my chance of getting something? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hooked up with Amanda yesterday late afternoon on Ramsey. She wae about 19 Y/O, smelled just out of the shower sweet, and was a little plump, but attractive. Hadn't been beat up by the lifestyle YET. Right away my vibe meter told my something was not right here. Amanda stated she had just left the stripped sunshine motel about an hour ago. She was not happy with my hides and I curtantly wasn't happy with any of hers and there was something wrong and I couldn't figure out what it was. Got tried of riding after 15-20 minutes so decided to turn her in for a more cooperative model. As soon as she saw that we were headed back she blurted out she was sOOOO dope sick she would do anything for the money (there it was). She showed me her titties, very nice shape, inverted nipples, C+ cups. I gave her 10 and said maybe next time. Don't like them dope sick they gag to much.
Didn't have much time after that so pointed the mobile foward home and said "maybe Amanda won't be sick next time I see her".
Well the weather is starting to cool off and before long I'm out of here for Thailand and surrounding hunting grounds. It's nice to be the catch instead of looking for hours for something decent. Where I'm headed the girls must compete (look good, be pleasant, perform well) or I'll surely find some one better. And the LE don't care what you do just so you don't hurt the girls.
Well, the weather is getting colder, but definitely the SWs are out. Where were they in the summer? Anyways, drove through PP, W/W and Brooklyn. Lots of them out, but none that caught my attention. Went to Konklin, and a few there too. I decided to head back to W/W because most of the SWs were there.
On my where there along Baltimore, I saw tons of 5.0 near the strip club area. I saw one strip club girl (blond, mid-20s, 8/10, firm ass and tits) trying to start her car but it wouldn't start. So I pull up next to her car and help her jumpstart it. I asked her what's happening and what's with all the 5.0 action, and she says it was a raid. And it was just before she was to start her shift. So now she didn't want to go to work and would be out of $. So I offered her some $ for action.
I followed her car to a quiet parking lot. Went into her car and for $$, got a great bbbj and cfs and gfe. These strip club girls cost more than the SWs. But they're definitely higher quality also.
[QUOTE=WhenIn Vegas]Your chances of catching anything with a CBJ are virtually impossible. With BBBJ you can catch Herpes or even chlamadya if the girls throat is infected (the girl usually has a nasty soar throat).
Herpes is harder to guard against since the girl could be contagious but not have any symptoms.[/QUOTE]
Well, we could all wear a full body condom and stay at home and wack off. Thats what Howard Hughes wouldve done.
Hey all. I had to be in the city this morning for some business and figured that before I leave I might as well stop by and see what is out. I was looking for Jackie. She is my favorite and I have gone to her 2x already. Tried an older woman last time by the name of Jeanie but she was on something (see my previous posts). Anyways, drove around the usual spot but couldn't find Jackie and was about to call it quits when I saw a really good looking girl right on Wilkens. I pulled into the side street and she came up and said if I needed some help. Told her that I give her a ride if she should show me how to get to a gas station. She hopped in and said that her name of Sheena. I remember Sheena from the previous posts about her and figured this girl looked about right (in terms of body), the face and hands have definitely taken a beating from the streets. Went to a place that she suggested (not exactly discreet because there were cars going by and construction crew right in front of us. But I was thinking with the little guy). She wanted. 20 right away and again because I was think with the wrong head, I went and gave it to her. She then went to work. Good cbj with a bit of deep throat. Tits are still firm and stomach is pretty flat. I was taking my time to finish and she actually told me to cum because she was getting tired. I ended up finishing shortly after and then proceeded to fill the condom with water to make sure that it didn't break. Gave her 8 quarters as a tip even though I really did not want to. But the BODY, oh man, I was distracted by that body. Would have taken pictures but didn't think it was a good idea considering cars were going by and some of them actually slowed down a bit. I have gotten her phone number and it works for now. If anyone wants it, let me know. Maybe we can do an exchange.
P.S. Being a newbie, when I go down to W/W even if I don't pick anybody up, I use it as a way to get to know the roads better. Now I just have to figure out what CB means.
Hey there my fellow mongers,
Picked up CJ on Fairhaven & Patapsco this a.m-enjoy pics,post will follow when I get the chance!! Rook.
Hello All. Man, that Sleeping Bag guy is a bag of douche! Anyway, just wanted to update the board on the Hampden action. Or lack thereof. The three SW's who I had success with in the Spring and Summer, Sheri, Shelly and Amber have disappeared. I have heard rumors and hearsay but I won't pass those on here. Sticking to the facts they are not walking anywhere I have seen and not answering the phone numbers I had for them. A shame, Shelly and Sheri especially were pretty good.
Two recent experiences:
Gina. A little chunky and mid-40's with a gorgeous DD rack. Gina claims to be a CityPaper masseuse who works Hampden every now and then. She prefers to be contacted by phone. PM and I will share digits. In my opinion Gina is about the best BJ artist I have ever met. She goes for the gusto and gives what I consider to be 'porn star quality' head. I have done FS and her pussy is nice and tight, but the BJ is so good it makes FS secondary to me. Gina is a little more expensive than most of the SW's, but I see no evidence of drug use with her. Arms are clear, clean skin, washed clothes and different outfits every time I have seen her, and she is a healthy weight, a little plump in all actuality. $30 BJ. 1/2 and 1/2 with two pops for $60. I would give Gina 3. 5 out of a possible five stars to using the old Star Search scoring system.
Rachel. Rachel has been around Hampden for years. I rarely pick her up but when the picking were slim recently I decided to give her a shot. She is a ginger, pale skin, red hair and freckles. She is a hardened drug user so I would recommend covering for everything. She has a half decent body, titties were probably great a few years ago but they are on the sag now. One thing with Rachel is she is a no below the waist girl, so if you like to finger that is not happening with her. 1 Jack CBJ and 1 out of a possible 5 stars.
[QUOTE=Lokicue82]Now I just have to figure out what CB means.[/QUOTE]CB = Curtis Bay / BCB = Brooklyn,Curtis Bay
[QUOTE=KarlHungus]Hello All. Man, that Sleeping Bag guy is a bag of douche![/QUOTE]If you got problems, then leave. Otherwise, be at peace.