General Reports

[QUOTE=Exp69;1794475]Requesting everyone's opinion. Do you prefer to book an hour or a half hour and why?[/QUOTE]With a new provider I've only ever gone for a HHR or short stay as a sort of get-to-know-you. If it's awful then I'm only out a few dollars. If it's great, it will get better next time you visit. (keep in mind that this rationale goes out the window with certain well known, well reviewed Puerto Rican providers. If you know who I'm talking about, by all means go for the hour, you will not regret it)

Justanon

Bad idea to communicate via text. There's a reason why most providers don't go that route. Its a permanent record between sender and sendee. With prices, locations, acts discussed verbally there's a risk that someone on your end, their end or a third party listening or recording. Highly unlikely but possible. When texting all this is written in stone. Uncle Lee has been known to check text messages of people looking to score drugs. He's smarter than you think. Meeting time, locations, prices sent. Go ahead and tell him he needs a warrant or grounds to search. You may amuse him. Same principal applies to hobbyists. Example: $$ FS half hour room 1313 texted read by someone in the know on the opposite team just sank your battleship. You're both fucked. Ask for the privilege of putting on the cuffs yourself. Erase all texts immediately. Bad business. Discussing rates over the phone is risky. This pasttime isn't for the cheap. Most girls will hang up immediately when asked too many questions, not being rude, just cautious. May think you're a time waster or unsure of yourself. Be there in person, rates too high go for it, play hardball or leave. Most providers in this goddamned high priced place are plus or minus. 5 normal rates anyways. Anyways in Manassas. Bunch of prisses around here. Bet if I waved two crisp. 20's in their native country I would have a submissive for a week. Oh well.

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1795023]Why spend $.6 or even $$, when you can hit the essentials for. 6 or. 8? Most of the girls I see don't rush me through a short stay, so I see 3 girls for the same price as seeing one for an hour. I always bring a small gift, more for regulars. If we've gone way over the standard time, or extra territory was explored, I'll leave more.

The good ones would rather have a reliable, safe regular than look for new one who might spend more, or might be a set-up or robbery. Many girls have told me this, including one of my current favorites whose girlfriend was beaten and robbed a few weeks ago. The smart ones build a base of regulars, so they don't have to advertise as much, and can become lower-profile.

Once you've shown the willingness and ability to pay full asking price up front, you've made it tougher to get yourself a lower price. It's saying "you did a great job for $$; can you do the same great job next time for less?"

If you start at the lower end, they have incentives to do more to get more. Good service is rewarded with extra sugar, not requests for a discount.[/QUOTE]Good points BB and Justanon. If I could pay .6 or 8 I would be a very happy man. (Because I would go more than once a month which is about all I can afford at $$ or $$$ a session). BB, what sort of gift do you bring? I would also prefer to have a regular but I haven't found one yet that I like and can afford. It doesn't seem to be in the stars for me.

That really sucks that PRs are beaten and robbed, I certainly hope the criminal was reported to Leo. Makes me angry that someone would do that, but I guess the world is full of ass wipes. All I can say is I wish they get caught, put in jail, and then raped to see how they like it.

Exp

Ok, I'm beginning to think that 9pm or 10pm is not such a good time to call. I have yet to get through to a PR after 9pm or so (other than Mariah). And their voice mailboxes all appear to be full. Is there a time you should not call? Should you call right before you want to have the session, or is it better to try and schedule something for much later after your call?

What is their "busy hour"? Are weekends busier than weekdays?

Exp

[QUOTE=Exp69; 1795518]Ok, I'm beginning to think that 9pm or 10pm is not such a good time to call. I have yet to get through to a PR after 9pm or so (other than Mariah). And their voice mailboxes all appear to be full. Is there a time you should not call? Should you call right before you want to have the session, or is it better to try and schedule something for much later after your call?

What is their "busy hour"? Are weekends busier than weekdays?

Exp[/QUOTE]Ask yourself this, when do most people have their free time? The answer is going to be weekends and evening / night. If you call around 9-10, you're among many others trying to meet with a provider and if you don't get an answer, they are more than likely busy. I usually do my research before leaving and get a list of three. I'll make my first call when getting into the car and if no answer, try again 5-10 minutes later. If they answer then great. If not, I move on to the second choice, repeat, and go to the third if needed. I've been successful each time with that approach. I'm usually there no later than 30 minutes after making first contact.

I met with a provider tonight and I was curious about when her busy times were. As expected, weekends and Friday night are her busiest times with the busiest being around midnight. When asked her slowest nights, she thought about it before answering with Tuesday which again, really wasn't a surprise. I would imagine during the day on a weekday is pretty easy to meet with someone as well but I don't know when most start during the day.

[QUOTE=Propilot; 1794332]BB is 100 percent correct on this report. The girls definitely want to hear the voice of the person that they are dealing with. Most girls will not openly admit that they single out black guys, latinos, and drunk aggressive guys this way. There are many reports of guys scheduling an appointment with an escort only for her to not answer her phone or door when they arrive at the location.

Also it is nice to be polite and respectful on the phone, but a word to the wise-there are some girls will try to ripoff a guy if she thinks or feels that he is too nice, or too eager. Read the forum and see only reviewed escorts. For the new escorts that appear on Backpage, assume nothing but be ready for the worst when you go to visit them.

Propilot-Always check your six.[/QUOTE]What are those six to check?

[QUOTE=Jicks;1797378]What are those six to check?[/QUOTE]The expression is from military pilots. It means watch your back to make sure an enemy fighter isn't on your tail.

More here: [url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_check_six_mean[/url]

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1797926]The expression is from military pilots. It means watch your back to make sure an enemy fighter isn't on your tail.

More here:

[url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_check_six_mean[/url][/QUOTE]Radio call signs for infantry units use "six" to designate the unit commander. That's because they are now taught to lead from the rear. They do it that way now because of the HUGE number of officers lost in WWI and WWII when many an over zealous young LT or Captain would leap over the trench wall while shouting "Follow me!" Then they'd get mowed down by enemy fire.

I'd really like to think the reply below is a joke, but it doesn't sound like it.

The expression has nothing to do with unit commanders or leading from the rear. It's a directional reference used by pilots, tied to clock positions. 12 o'clock refers to straight ahead (remember the movie "12 O'Clock High"?) while 6 o'clock refers to 180 degrees behind you. 3 o'clock is to the right. 9 o'clock to the left.

Therefore, the pilot's admonition to "check six" means always be aware of what's behind you, or who may be coming out of that blind spot to shoot you down.

Unit commanders are not referred to as "six" in military nets. US commanders are not taught to lead from the rear, whatever happened in recent wars, and they do not do so.

Sheesh.

Norm.

[QUOTE=Titleist4;1798648]Radio call signs for infantry units use "six" to designate the unit commander. That's because they are now taught to lead from the rear. They do it that way now because of the HUGE number of officers lost in WWI and WWII when many an over zealous young LT or Captain would leap over the trench wall while shouting "Follow me!" Then they'd get mowed down by enemy fire.[/QUOTE]

Pilots can easily see what is in their 3, 9 and 12 o clock areas. What is difficult to see is your 6 o clock position. Thus the warning to check your six.

[QUOTE=Norman2759; 1799761]I'd really like to think the reply below is a joke, but it doesn't sound like it.

The expression has nothing to do with unit commanders or leading from the rear. It's a directional reference used by pilots, tied to clock positions. 12 o'clock refers to straight ahead (remember the movie "12 O'Clock High"?) while 6 o'clock refers to 180 degrees behind you. 3 o'clock is to the right. 9 o'clock to the left.

Therefore, the pilot's admonition to "check six" means always be aware of what's behind you, or who may be coming out of that blind spot to shoot you down.

Unit commanders are not referred to as "six" in military nets. US commanders are not taught to lead from the rear, whatever happened in recent wars, and they do not do so.

Sheesh.

Norm.[/QUOTE]It started with pilots and it does refer to the rear of the aircraft. When it's an aviator using it. But it is used in the infantry. It even goes to the point where the enlisted radioman (who's with the officer) will identify himself as "six" but when the officer gets on the horn, he'll use the term "six actual" after his unit's official designator.

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1797926]The expression is from military pilots. It means watch your back to make sure an enemy fighter isn't on your tail.

More here:

[url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_check_six_mean[/url][/QUOTE]From Day 1 of Flight School till Graduation Day and beyond, you will hear "Always check your six." As a Pilot, your weak spot is the rear of your aircraft, which is in the six o'clock position when you use the the clock / watch as a reference tool. When you check your six, you are looking for bogeys or bandits that try to sneak up behind you to shoot your aircraft down.

Propilot-Always check your six.

[QUOTE=Titleist4;1800000]It started with pilots and it does refer to the rear of the aircraft. When it's an aviator using it. But it is used in the infantry. It even goes to the point where the enlisted radioman (who's with the officer) will identify himself as "six" but when the officer gets on the horn, he'll use the term "six actual" after his unit's official designator.[/QUOTE]"Today, while many commanders use "6" to designate their leadership role, Weitzel said the practice of using "6" didn't begin until World War II.

"There is no official origin of the '6' designation, but it is believed that its origin dates back to World War II when the regimental combat team was the lowest level radio nets were pushed down to," Weitzel said."The regimental commander was usually a colonel, O-6, and he would be the '6' on the radio. Being a former communications guy myself, I find this origin the most credible."

[QUOTE=Exp69; 1795518]Ok, I'm beginning to think that 9pm or 10pm is not such a good time to call. I have yet to get through to a PR after 9pm or so (other than Mariah). And their voice mailboxes all appear to be full. Is there a time you should not call? Should you call right before you want to have the session, or is it better to try and schedule something for much later after your call?

What is their "busy hour"? Are weekends busier than weekdays?

Exp[/QUOTE]Providers generally let their voice mail get full. If you call a provider and her VM is not full, it doesn't mean she checks it. It is more likely that she got a new phone and it hasn't filled up yet.

If you are looking at affordable priced BP girls, don't bother making an appointment. They are unlikely to keep the appointment. They will take whoever calls and gets there the fastest. If you have a 9pm appointment, and I call at 8:40 asking if I can see here in 10-15 minutes, she will tell me to come on over. If I am there before you, she will tell me to come on up. You will be in the parking lot out of luck, unless you want to wait. In the unlikely event that she remembers the appointment she might even call you with an excuse. Something like "I am running behind and will call you when I get there" or "I just got here and need to shower first" or some other excuse you know better than to believe. Basically it will be something to keep you waiting until I am finished.

Personally I scout a few ladies at the start. I start calling until I get an answer. I'll try my top options a few times as I gradually check out other options. If I get to a hotel and the girl doesn't answer, I start calling other options. I try to scout options close together so if I get stood up I am already close to the next one. While I am calling other options I may try once or twice between calls to reach the girl I am waiting on, but I am already working on my next move as soon as I am left waiting. Once I get in touch with a good second option I am on my way.

These girls operate on a first come first serve basis. If they don't answer they are with someone, and there is no telling if they have more lined up outside the hotel. The best bet is to call when you are ready, have some contingency options, and know that you might have to call more than once to get the girls you want.

[QUOTE=Guitarman1; 1805454]Providers generally let their voice mail get full. If you call a provider and her VM is not full, it doesn't mean she checks it. It is more likely that she got a new phone and it hasn't filled up yet.

If you are looking at affordable priced BP girls, don't bother making an appointment. They are unlikely to keep the appointment. They will take whoever calls and gets there the fastest. If you have a 9pm appointment, and I call at 8:40 asking if I can see here in 10-15 minutes, she will tell me to come on over. If I am there before you, she will tell me to come on up. You will be in the parking lot out of luck, unless you want to wait. In the unlikely event that she remembers the appointment she might even call you with an excuse. Something like "I am running behind and will call you when I get there" or "I just got here and need to shower first" or some other excuse you know better than to believe. Basically it will be something to keep you waiting until I am finished.

Personally I scout a few ladies at the start. I start calling until I get an answer. I'll try my top options a few times as I gradually check out other options. If I get to a hotel and the girl doesn't answer, I start calling other options. I try to scout options close together so if I get stood up I am already close to the next one. While I am calling other options I may try once or twice between calls to reach the girl I am waiting on, but I am already working on my next move as soon as I am left waiting. Once I get in touch with a good second option I am on my way.

These girls operate on a first come first serve basis. If they don't answer they are with someone, and there is no telling if they have more lined up outside the hotel. The best bet is to call when you are ready, have some contingency options, and know that you might have to call more than once to get the girls you want.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good advice. My fundamental problem is that I get very nervous making these calls, so I'm lucky if I manage to sum up the nerve to call one! . However, the hornier I am, the better chance of calling! . I think I prefer seeing them at non-busy hours, since I am not married, I can get out of the house any time. My other problem is my phone is really cheap and I can't always understand what they are saying. Although I can't blame the phone 100, ears, like the rest of the body, degrade with time.

Exp

I won't mention any specific site by name because I don't want to violate board policy about naming competitors' websites, but you know which ones are out there.

Usually if a provider is too strict with her verification process I'll just pass and move on to the next one. But there are some I would like to see that require verification, not from another provider, but from a third-party website. Are those mostly scams or has anyone used one that's actually worth a damn?

Also, how do you handle any required payment without going down the credit card path (which I'm unwilling to do) or other method that might be traced? Are there good ones that are either free or allow membership by posting info, etc?

Any and all experiences, thoughts, insights and cautions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I absolutely understand all the reasons why NOT to use a verification service, so no need to remind me. My purpose for posting here is to find out if anyone has had any positive experiences.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr; 1821668]I won't mention any specific site by name because I don't want to violate board policy about naming competitors' websites, but you know which ones are out there.

Usually if a provider is too strict with her verification process I'll just pass and move on to the next one. But there are some I would like to see that require verification, not from another provider, but from a third-party website. Are those mostly scams or has anyone used one that's actually worth a damn?

Also, how do you handle any required payment without going down the credit card path (which I'm unwilling to do) or other method that might be traced? Are there good ones that are either free or allow membership by posting info, etc?

Any and all experiences, thoughts, insights and cautions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I absolutely understand all the reasons why NOT to use a verification service, so no need to remind me. My purpose for posting here is to find out if anyone has had any positive experiences.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have had no positive experiences. I learned a few years ago that any time I am asked for a credit card or other form of payment as a means of verification, it is nothing but a ruse. 100% of the time. I have come to equate any "verify with credit card request" with a slick crook in a room full of computers looking to rob me blind.

AD

Six isn't just military pilots, I was in the infantry, check your six meant watch out behind you and more generally just to maintain situational awareness. But I heard it before joining the military as well. I think even in sports, civilian aviation, many other fields, and just general use people use the clock for direction and 6 o'clock is behind you. It has nothing to do with an O-6 battalion commander etc.

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1797926]The expression is from military pilots. It means watch your back to make sure an enemy fighter isn't on your tail.

More here:

[url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_check_six_mean[/url][/QUOTE]

Positive experiences with the place that gives you freebies for posting reviews. I use that for verification and some leads. There is another board that offered a six month trial and I'm trying it out now. Its about 50/50 with responses. Usually the older providers IMHO respond (more desperate for clients) or newbies wanting something a bit 'safer' in gathering clients. Of the 50/50 that respond, they want verification from another provider.

The last one I'm commenting has moved to credit card only payment, screw that. This is a sketchy business to begin with, and even if they are 'legit', its not saying somebody taking over their business won't be.

If you're talking to about providers, payment to providers, then you can do cash withdrawl from an ATM, pre-paid credit card, etc. Pre-paids don't always work, but haven't been an issue.

[QUOTE=JmSuttr; 1821668]Also, how do you handle any required payment without going down the credit card path (which I'm unwilling to do) or other method that might be traced? Are there good ones that are either free or allow membership by posting info, etc?

Any and all experiences, thoughts, insights and cautions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, I absolutely understand all the reasons why NOT to use a verification service, so no need to remind me. My purpose for posting here is to find out if anyone has had any positive experiences.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I got a request for reference to Sky Eden from a lurker. I won't name him, but he has 3 posts total, from June to August 2009, and nothing since. First, I've never been to Sky Eden or posted about it, so I'm guessing he's just firing off requests to seniors, the way people push all the buzzers at an apartment building, hoping one person opens the door without checking.

This is a story that's been told before, but is worth repeating.

Imagine you and your buddies have spent a lot of money on a fishing boat, GPS, sonar, and tackle, and put in a lot of time and gas money hunting down the best spots where the fish run. When one of your buddies finds a great spot, he'll get his line in the water, then tip you off so you can join in. You do the same.

You have to be careful about who gets the information, because there are some guys who will use tips from others, but keep their own finds to themselves. Even worse, there are others who will ride through with nets and scoop up all the fish, then put up a marker that the fishing spot is closed.

You don't broadcast these finds on an open channel; you use private channels, or whisper about it at the bar next to the pier.

Now, we all enjoy sitting at the bar and passing on detailed explanations and suggestions on boats, sonar, rods and reels, navigation, bait, weather, the tides, and anything that might help anyone go out and find, hook, reel in, clean, cook, and eat their favorite fish. If you read and practice these suggestions, you'll be as successful as the best angler on the pier.

Experienced hands will pass along a lot of info about shallow reefs and shoals, poisonous fish, poorly-marked crab pots that might tangle your lines, or other hazards we've run across, saving the next guy the trouble of running aground, damaging his boat, or losing his gear. We also share a lot of info about good spots we've found, so the guys who hang around the bar but never tell their own stories can catch enough for dinner.

But, there are those secret spots, the absolute gems, that are hard to find and easy to ruin. Old hands keep those close to the vest for good reason.

So, say you're one of these old hands who's invested immeasurable time, money, and effort, then some guy who's been hanging around the bar for years, eavesdropping as much good info as he can, and obviously hitting other people's spots without returning the favor, slides into your booth and says "I've heard about this great cove with tasty and exotic fish, but no one will tell me where it is; can you draw me a map?"

What would you do?

I'm the worse computer dummy. How can I get still photos of a video? The format is Video Clip (.avi) PM is welcome.

Fairfax county LEO is stepping up their activity. Talked to one of my ATFs today. She was in the Landmark area manager booted her out of notel and when she checked in at her new notel in close prox to previous notel, LEO shows up, lays the pressure on enough that she left town. Not sure if it was Fairfax county or Alex LEO. I guess sticking to the ATFs is becoming a problem too. Also has anyone else noticed the increase in providers posting on BP without posting history around the country or lack of reviews?

[QUOTE=CowboyWilson;1933631]Fairfax county LEO is stepping up their activity. Talked to one of my ATFs today. She was in the Landmark area manager booted her out of notel and when she checked in at her new notel in close prox to previous notel, LEO shows up, lays the pressure on enough that she left town. Not sure if it was Fairfax county or Alex LEO. I guess sticking to the ATFs is becoming a problem too. Also has anyone else noticed the increase in providers posting on BP without posting history around the country or lack of reviews?[/QUOTE]Yes, I've noticed, and I've skipped past a few provider ads, since a provider having some kind of history was one of the determining factors to me seeing them.

There have also been a couple of providers that I TOFTT on, left happy and posted a review for others' benefit. Now I'm regretting that decision a little, for some of those providers have disappeared or left town prematurely. Next time I'll ask first.

I don't get LEO, but alas, that's the sign that you live in a good neighborhood, when LEO can devote this much time to these sorts of things.

[QUOTE=CowboyWilson;1933631]Fairfax county LEO is stepping up their activity. Talked to one of my ATFs today. She was in the Landmark area manager booted her out of notel and when she checked in at her new notel in close prox to previous notel, LEO shows up, lays the pressure on enough that she left town. Not sure if it was Fairfax county or Alex LEO. I guess sticking to the ATFs is becoming a problem too. Also has anyone else noticed the increase in providers posting on BP without posting history around the country or lack of reviews?[/QUOTE]This was anticipated in a discussion in the News and Media Reports a month or so back.

CHROME keeps saying this site has malware! Is it the site or is it CHROME that is going bad?

Watta.

[QUOTE=Watta;1998961]CHROME keeps saying this site has malware! Is it the site or is it CHROME that is going bad?

Watta.[/QUOTE]You may have noticed that Chrome updates their browser versions pretty often. I had the same problem with the malware notification and then, when the next browser update took place, I could connect to this site with no problem.

One way to work around the issue is to download a free program called Sandboxie (or something similar). This lets you open the browser in a safe, sandboxed window and you can then override the warning and view the site without worrying about any malware. If you need any further details on this, feel free to PM.

Or the other way you can try to deal with it is to update Chrome. I'm currently running Version 31.0.1650.63 and I'm not having any problems.

I've been getting the same alerts for about 6 months now. About one every 6 weeks. I just come back later.

[QUOTE=AKFourtySeven;1999585]I've been getting the same alerts for about 6 months now. About one every 6 weeks. I just come back later.[/QUOTE]Same thing happens to me at irregular intervals. I just wait a while, and it seems to clear.

AM.

[QUOTE=Watta;1998961]CHROME keeps saying this site has malware! Is it the site or is it CHROME that is going bad?

Watta.[/QUOTE]There's nothing on this site that's been compromised or dangerous. What happens is that one of the ads somewhere on the site links to an external page that may have malware, but Google doesn't tell them which link it is; it just tells everyone to stay away.

Hat tip to LburgGuy in Roanoke for finding this.

[URL]http://youtu.be/_DQv2GxFHt4[/URL]

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;2093043]Hat tip to LburgGuy in Roanoke for finding this.

[URL]http://youtu.be/_DQv2GxFHt4[/URL][/QUOTE]Ha! Funnier than I expected when I saw what show it was.

Hey, long time senior member here visiting the Manassas area for one night. Any if you fellow mongers have a utr girl that you wouldn't mind sharing info and contact number., can you PM me the details / info. If you are ever down in the Greensboro, NC area, I can return the favor.

Thanks, Johnny.

Just wanted to give everyone a FYI, Family Dollar has Tracfones on sale for $5. I picked up a couple today. Each comes with 20 minutes of airtime. Awesome throw away.

Visiting the NOVA area this week and am interested in spending some time with a referred UTR in the area.

If anyone has one to trade I have the number for a top notch UTR lady in the Manassas area. Mid 30's, DD's, awesome body, top 5 skills and nice long legs. Very fun to hang out with and she is a total freak. She was my go to UTR lady while down in VB, but want to try something different this trip.

Please no BP re-treads. Looking for a true UTR.

Thanks!

Would be interested in trading info. Know a nice accommodating young thin long legged Asian type girl that needs a little help occasionally.

We can chat, have to clear trading info with her of course. Let me know. She is not on BP. Need to know you will treat her the right way.

[QUOTE=Wiiiiam;2255912]Would be interested in trading info. Know a nice accommodating young thin long legged Asian type girl that needs a little help occasionally.

We can chat, have to clear trading info with her of course. Let me know. She is not on BP. Need to know you will treat her the right way.[/QUOTE]Thanks but I am leaving in the morning.

Appreciate the effort though.

At the end of the day, NOVA / DC is not great, unless you are a high paid lawyer / lobbyist with tons of cash to throw around. LA, Dallas, Southern Fl, Seattle are all better in my opinion.

Just ask PCPC what he thinks of NOVA vs. San Gabriel Valley (or even better Hong Kong / Asia)...

[QUOTE=SandMt;2321906]In the process of relocating from the Nashville chattanooga knoxville TN area. I was really active in the hobby there but so far it's not been a great transition relative to the providers I've encountered while here. The best I've seen is a nice looking 19 year old ebony. She would be outstanding if she enjoyed what she was doing. Clean, outstanding body, fantastic BBBJ and CFS but it's clear that she has no interest what so ever in anything but the cash. I've always been more of a GFE guy.

When I first arrived in the area I was staying in Clinton. I saw several and all but one was a waste of time and money. The one that was great has dropped off the radar.

Now I've setteld into an apartment in Alexandria. I'll be here alone for the next couple of weeks alone and if any one could help a brother out with some intell it would be greatly appreciated. I am set to meet with a young lady today after work and will report back with a review. I love um young short and petiet color dosent matter race dosent matter. Attitude makes all the difference if a lady dosent meet the young and short description but has a great attitude I'm still good. Great hygiene is a must.

If your ever down south and want great company be sure to let me know.[/QUOTE]

Visiting the NOVA area this week and am interested in spending some time with a referred UTR in the area.

Can repay the generosity should one ever visit Virginia Beach area.