I'd like additional info on her, I met with her and liked her
We met and talked a few days ago, she was sweet and friendly we hit it off pretty well, she did mention previous substance abuse back in the day, she seems to be doing well for herself and looks healthy, I'm just curious.
[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2814734]Thanks for the heads up brother. RedHead101 is a former stripper from 2013 or so; she is a natural, fiery redhead. I've received several VIP dances from her and chatted her up in the club. She recently had a kid which may be just over a year old. I recall that she was battling some substance demons back in the day, but I lost touch with her about 3 years ago. PM for additional details since I can send you a link to additional information.
stay safe,
Milfman.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FitDaddy3;2815416]I took the plunge with this one last Thursday. She's a firecracker, great little body on her and gets right down to business. She rushed the shit out of me, though, after hitting me up for 250. Of course, she's going to make it up to me next time. Right! Milfman is right. She does have a 13 month old kid but her body doesn't show it at all. We met, got a room, had a BBBJ a little mish and she was dressed and gone in less than an hour. Very disappointing. There's more ways to steal your money than cash and dash my friends. Lesson learned on this one. I won't repeat.[/QUOTE]
Ms Juicy cross-reference (BP and SA)
Ms. Juicy on BP: [URL]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ms-juicy-865964654460-specials-for-repeat-clients-onlynew-picscall-now/9976184[/URL].
Juicyjezebel89 on SA: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e75c567e/view?interests-viewed-me[/URL].
Stay safe,
Milfman.
Links to SB crowdfunding pages
I"m getting a lot of requests (unsolicited) from prospective SBs with a link to their crowdfunding page. I've only exchanged 2 or 3 short messages at the time of getting the link and they are several hundred miles away. I was getting a lot of hits from cam girls a few months back, but it seems like crowdfunding requests have replaced those. It totally goes against the "no payment provided before services rendered" in an attempt to combat cashing and dashing, but some of those pages tug at the remaining heartstrings.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
I wondered the same thing milfman
[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2834317]I've exchanged a few messages with her, but I'm hesitant about her pics. I suspect that the pics of her with the light brown hair were from years ago, in her hotter days (unfortunately, most of us can relate far too well). However, the darker haired pics are likely her now. Check out the pic of her holding the samurai sword, that's a chubby chick and focus in on that mid-section and ankles. She seems relatively sane (she proclaims that she is a samurai though). Proof in advertising is key, it may not be a problem for you, but a little more in shape would be nice based on her financial expectations.
Stay safe,
Milfman.[/QUOTE]I scheduled a coffee with her for Wednesday morning, with options if all goes well. Haha I'll let you know if we don't know before then.
SA is slower than Fall 2015
[QUOTE=KnoxFourMe;2835657]So I renewed my acct last week. Been sending out a lot of messages.
Usually get very few responses at first then all come in at once.
Seems a little slow compared with about 6 months ago but lots of girls posting. Anyone been having good results?
Not looking for specifics just general feel for things.[/QUOTE]My experiences with SA have been the same as yours compared to 6 months ago. I figured that most of you had run through all of the gals or keeping them to yourselves. The weather is warmer, so most folks will likely be spending time with their kids or doing the sports stuff whereas the kids were going BACK to school 6 months ago. Pure speculation here. Keep in mind that SA is undergoing a massive ad campaign (e. G. , touting SA as a viable insurance plan, slipping ads on escort advertising sites as discussed earlier, offering free memberships to ladies with a dot edu address). Some of the millennials that I have communicated with are willing to play, but I can find women who ARE NOT height and weight proportionate almost anywhere and anytime, so I don't need an SA membership for that. My expectations can't get much lower for that site for I'm not willing to put in the time even for the meet and greets. I have meeting with a few scheduled over the next week, but for that amount of effort, I could have visited a well-known provider instead.
-milfman.
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Trial of SugarDaddyForMe dot com
I signed up for the SugarDaddyForMe website (March 2016) since it offered a full-featured 3 day trial, which would be nice if SA would do for potential members. I approached it by trying to cast as wide of a net as possible, let them know that I normally operate off of SA, and that I was just trying out the site. It was helpful to put a desired email address in the subject line so they could reach out to you after the trial is over (if you're not full access member, they won't be able to read your message). You'll need a credit card to sign up for the trial. I always keep a pre-paid card with about two bucks or so left on it. That allows the card to pass authorization, but they can't get any money if they try to actually bill because there isn't enough money on it.
The good:
=Nice feature set to aid communication and planning. It shows the distance the ladies are to you, has a schedule that you can post to show when you are available, and keeps track of users that you are waiting to hear from and those who are waiting for your response. The chat feature got annoying after the first day, but helpful if you didn't want to send PMs back and forth. You can send a Virtual Kiss which is a short message expressing interest using one of their list of canned subject lines. A useful feature for the lazy ones of us is the PowerMatch feature where they send out pre-formed messages on your behalf based on your preferences; you don't even have to look at the profiles yourself.
The bad:
=Not as many SBs on there in this area (or admit to being in the area), or overall compared to SA. I was contacted by a lot of women in the Northeast who looked promising, but the distance wasn't worth it. Of the ones that I exchanged messages with, they mentioned that they were also on SA. I recognized a lot of familiar profiles.
=Ladies falsely posting in the Knoxville area. They mentioned for privacy reasons, but they actually resided out of the area. They would use Knoxville as their search location while they were hunting for a SD, but their listed location was as far away as Nashville, Atlanta, or Charlotte.
Final Verdict:
=Not worth the effort as the main source, but it was eye opening to have something to compare to SA. I'm sticking with SA even with all of its slowness. SugarDaddyForMe is like a hot female with unmanicured feet; almost everything checks out but something just isn't right.
CuddleTouch in AL: scammer
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e6f3c7251/view[/URL]
Excellent clarification on SD4 Me
[QUOTE=MarkScott;2836138]3 yr overview shrunk down to a 10 min read.
Happy hunting, don't expect too much. And even if you get some traction. You may default back to SA in my opinion. SA is upper class of the two.
Mark.
Sorry for the long post.[/QUOTE]Excellent report of SugarDaddyForMe from a site veteran. I got the feeling that many aspects just didn't feel right and you helped clarify the bulk of those. My expectations of that site couldn't get much lower, but I may try some of the paid subscription evasion techniques. The detail is just right.
Happy hunting,
Milfman.
SA wannabe SBs that are a waste of air
From my experiences, the following SA wannabe SBs are a waste of air. These SA members make "charging it to the game" a daily maxim. As always YMMV (I doubt it), but it would be appropriate to dedicate the following playlist, on infinite repeat, to each and every one of them:
Miranda Lambert. White Liar.
Linkin Park. Lies Greed Misery.
Three Days Grace. I Hate Everything About You.
Beyonce. Best Thing I Never Had.
Apocalyptica. I Don't Care.
CeeLo Green. F#ck You.
Tyler Farr. Redneck Crazy.
Dr. Dre. B*tches Ain't Sh*t.
=SA Members who are a Waste of Air:=
Angel Eyes Ann.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb6b690c/view[/URL]
Allyson M.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3f37a6c/view[/URL]
Lov3 bug.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1dd632c/view[/URL]
Rjane.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e260634c/view[/URL]
SimplyKatherine.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e260634c/view[/URL]
LACella.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea0539fd/view[/URL]
Luna Alese.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eed540de/view[/URL]
PrincessImperfect.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e85a417f/view[/URL]
=Turn the volume up to a piercing decibel level for the following since there is special disdain for thievery=
CRhea.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e593584b/view[/URL]
Adventourawaits29.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2f31b9e/view[/URL]
Stay safe,
Milfman.
Re Waste of air SBs and some bragging
Your "waste of time" girls. At least one of them on that list is downright dangerous. I'm not going to narrow it down for you, but I sincerely recommend avoiding them all, just so you don't fuck the (at least?) one psycho on the list.
Re SA in general. I have had massive success lately, so much so that I'm letting my membership lapse for the foreseeable future. I just had to learn what kind of pitches I should swing at. I avoid anything that looks (or, after a few messages, sounds) like a pro. I avoid desperate single moms who just need a little cash for diapers. The two best fishing holes are 25-year-old college grads who are underemployed in some field. They want a legitimate long-term life, don't make enough money to pay their school loans and still be able to enjoy the quality of life they had on campus. These girls are sane, safe, rare, but easy to identify with a couple of exchanges.
The other fertile ground are legitimate college students at legitimate colleges. UT, UTC, ETSU and Vanderbilt. I have become benefactors to all recently. These girls easily and quickly (and sometimes, accidentally?) divulge their full name to you, so Facebook and Twitter stalking is easy. You can learn about someone's propensity for drugs, evilness, seriousness and sexuality from their Facebook posts. (Horrifying is that they all support Bernie Sanders, LOL.).
I have been able to get my 1st meeting-to-fuck ratio to 1:1 my first-fuck to repeat-fuck ratio this year is also 1:1.
Yesterday's girl kept texting her roommate about our afternoon of activities, including driving around naked in my car, which apparently her roommate loves. The roommate is begging for my SB to share me, LOL. My reaction: "no way, honey, unless you are there, too. I couldn't do that without having your full approval. " Now I have a roommate negotiating with my SB to PLEEEASE have a threesome with her old fat guy.
I swear to god I have a good life. Very blessed. Sometimes, however, my cup runnuth over. Surely, goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life.
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WhatsYourPrice site initial reaction
I decided to give WhatsYourPrice a look since being a member of SA and trying out SugarDaddyForMe (they've already offered a one-week trial following the 3-day trial as user Mark mentioned). The usual suspects = the same women are on that site as there are on the others; quite a few well-knows escorts with profiles on there also. The whole "credits" aspect to communicate on there wreaks of a scam with all of the fake profiles. It seems like the type of "dating" site that would result from Charles Ponzi acting as the creator and Bernie Madoff running the site. I may use the site for recon purposes only, but I can't imagine using it for anything else. Note that the creators of SA are also the creators of WhatsYourPrice, so they are laughing at the multiple revenue streams.
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What are credits?
Credits are used solely to unlock communications with Attractive users. Please keep in mind that credits are not a guarantee that a date will take place, or even that a user will respond. Only Generous members need to purchase credits. They will have to pay credits to unlock a communication with an Attractive user after an offer has been accepted by both parties. The amount of credits required depends on the amount of an accepted offer. Thus, do not accept an offer if you are not interested in the potential date.
How is the number of credits needed to unlock a date calculated?
The amount of credits needed to unlock the messaging will depend on the price of the date.
If the price of the date is between:
$5 - $49 Date will cost 10 credits to unlock
$50 - $99 Date will cost 15 credits to unlock
$100 and over Date will cost 20% of the date amount. For example, a $100 date will cost 20 credits to unlock and a $150 date will cost 30 credits to unlock.
100 CREDIT PACKAGE
For The Curious
$ 50
450 CREDIT PACKAGE
Because It Works
$ 150
1000 CREDIT PACKAGE
Our First Date Guarantee
$ 250
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Scam written all over it.
Happy hunting,
Milfman.
Lessons I've recently learned
Sometimes there are a few rare diamonds to be found among all of the cubic zirconium and coal dust on SA.
Advice:
1. ETSU is currently a gold mine. It has become the "in thing" for girls there to get a SB. Mine has a 3. 5 GPA and fully understands the possibilities and limitations of this kind of relationship. No drugs, no drama. A $20 bottle of wine is a massive treat for her. Search for profiles added within the past month. And stay the hell away from mine!
2. Previously, I always ignored the ads from potential SBs who looked so hot they could be models. I just didn't trust them. I assumed it was either a scam or they wanted more money than I was willing to pay. This is, I have now discovered, not always true. Sometimes the most attractive girls really are lonely. They don't want the complications of a traditional relationship, but they still want to have sex--just not one night hook ups from a random bar guy. Always trust your bullshit detector, but I have learned there can be massive rewards for taking a chance on a very pretty one.
3. Give them some money before they ask for it or before you begin negotiating. I always take them to lunch somewhere and immediately give them $100. It buys $1,000 worth of goodwill. Some of you guys are including monetary offers for sex acts in your first PM to them on the site. You attract different girls doing that.
4. Look at the big picture when considering money. You might not be comfortable with a fixed monthly commitment, but look back over the last 12 months and see how much money you spent in the hobby. Hotels, girls and lousy experiences. With some SBs, the cost of a hotel goes away, because they have a house or apartment. Unless you simply enjoy the chase, there is also some monetary value to the time you no longer spend trolling for pussy.
5. Don't email them photos of your penis. They may tell you that they love it, but they don't. If you have a little wiener they will simply laugh to themselves about it. If you have a massive one, they might be afraid of it.
6. On the other end of the scale, some of the girls on here really are pros, simply kidding themselves. I have found that they are very easy to spot. Maybe that is what you are looking for, but perhaps that is what you are trying to avoid. If I want someone closer to a pro, I really don't want to spend a bunch of time looking for her. I can easily schedule with a trusted lady like Candy Curves, a woman is like a Ruth's Chris steak: Dependably delicious.
7. MILFMan is correct: the other goldmine is the health care industry. Search for Knoxville CNAs under the age of 30. The hospitals around here don't pay them shit. And these girls often work weird schedules, so they are usually available at least one day during the week. Or multiple days, if they are working night shifts. I hate to sound crude, but this area is very, very easy pickings. Unlike the college girls, however, these are usually only high school grads. Pros and cons to this. The massive pro, however, is that they are much more available than an ETSU sorority girl.
8. Black girls at UT have caught on to SA. There is a large community of would-be black SBs on the site. Being UT students, they are reasonably able to carry on a conversation and they are infinitely cleaner and more physically pleasant than many girls who hope to depend on their SA income to pay the bills. These are future lawyers, teachers and engineers. And the interesting thing is that many of them have a sincere fetish for older white men. Go figure.
I am not going in to any more detail, because I am afraid some guys here don't always follow the Fight Club rule #1. (That rule is especially critical when fishing in the SB pond.) But I could do a very effective ad for SA right now, except my wife wouldn't appreciate it.
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SA payment policy change effective 28-JAN-2016
You should be aware of a payment policy change effective 28-JAN-2016 where recurring payments kick in without your explicit approval. For those who don't use a near-anonymous pre-paid debit, that could come as a bit of a shock and the billing provider ("Payment will show up as ...") may not be listed as innocuous as you would hope. I noticed this because I am usually presented with a payment button, but that was nowhere to be found and I needed to find out why.
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SA - FAQ - Payment Information: I didn't agree to the recurring charges.
All Debit/Credit Card payments and PayPal payments made on or after January 28, 2016, will be automatically be enrolled into automatically recurring payments. There is no way to purchase a membership via Credit/Debit Card or Paypal without it being enrolled into automatically renewing payments.
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If you don't glean anything else from this keep in mind that: YOUR PAYMENT DATA IS BEING STORED.
Stay informed,
Milfman.
