Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[QUOTE=Anonymous420;4962034]450 could be a lot of money, or it could be a good deal. If she's super hot and will do everything you want and let you stay until you're totally drained, it's a good deal. If you're out the door as soon as you nut, it's probably not a good deal for most guys.[/QUOTE]I've never seen any girls from the Seattle area who were seriously at the quality where $500 for a short visit was even remotely worthwhile. OTOH I've found more a few in Vancouver, LA, and the Bay Area who fit the bill.

The girl has to be hot as fuck. Supermodel or movie star level of looks.

She needs to not only be skilled, but amazingly skilled.

She needs to be extremely enthusiastic and up for pretty much anything you might imagine. When your imagination runs out she has plenty of ideas.

She needs to be a filthy cum creature. She should coo happily as she licks you clean after you dump a load in her.

Those girls are rare anywhere but I've never found one in Washington.

[QUOTE=TakingABreak;4961553]I just don't think 450 is a lot of money.

I also would not see any woman in a flea bag motel.[/QUOTE]Agreed. If $450 is a "[I]lot of money[/I]" to you, you need a different hobby. Like hiking.

People who easily afford to drive new German luxury cars, wear a Rolex or at least Apple watch, own a house or condo in this overpriced market, or regularly go out for a [I]nice[/I] dinner and drinks running several hundred dollars for two are common here. Martinis at several high-end chains with the COVID fee are now $20. Per Martini.

Just as with our commercial recreational companions, there are less-expensive options for food, transport, housing and time-keeping. In companions, the pricier models are almost always much prettier or at least better made-up, can hold a conversation, value their repeat clientele and provide a much nicer experience. And your chance of taking home unwanted guests is much lower, because she's seeing fewer, but higher-income, guys. Lower-income, called socio-economic status, highly correlates with STD chances, and while that could be due to age and race correlations, odds are odds.

The Seattle tech industry is the home of the Platinum card. Stepping down to a GPS is just slumming it.

[QUOTE=FastBreakJunk;4962612]Exactly. While we aren't the first to point this out, market price is determined by us buyers-hobbyists. If enough of us are willing to pay exorbitant rates many providers will expect those rates, but if we refuse they'll keep their prices reasonable.

I'm happy to pay reasonable rates, and we're on the same page with what is reasonable. Even if a provider only has 5 sessions / wk which is probably a conservative estimate, that's about $1000-1500 of weekly income, which is about what I make working 40 hrs / wk.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more. It seems like folks are just too lazy (and maybe too horny?) to try and find women who accept between $200 and $300 an hour. As I have stated before, the maximum I will pay for a 1 hour visit is $220, and that must include BBBJ, DATY, DATO, and BBFS (Rimming would be a nice extra). I have been able to find a few who provide all that, and in fact, for the most recent 3 gals, I paid $200. So, I am doing my part in not paying ridiculous rates.

[QUOTE=ArizonaRanger;4961709]So I pmed her for rates and she sent this:

Menu;.

GFE BBBJ daty kissing Cfs, deep throat with spitting and gagging, love it.

Titty Fucking Dato, role play, mutual masturbation very passionate giving and taking.

Outs + 20 depending on distance.

30 min - 250.

60 min - 360.

90 min - 600.

2 hour -700.

Are these really her rates? Seems high based on what others have said about her.[/QUOTE]Some people negotiate. When I used to see escorts, I'd simply say "thanks" if the prices were too high. For some, that would end the conversation; for most, they would come back and say, "What were you looking to spend?" or "I can give you a special. " I always let them offer it instead of me offering a lower amount. That keeps them from calling you a low-baller and having an attitude when you meet.

[QUOTE=TakingABreak;4960287]Is 450 a lot of money?[/QUOTE]If you're paying $450 to see someone for 30 minutes, its strikes me as being ridiculous. A 30 minute appointment is basically showing up to fuck and leave. There is no need to pay premium for their "witty banter" or to revel in their faux intelligence. Shit, if you're showing up for 30 minutes, they probably don't even need to be that hot. A 30 minute appointment basically says, "I want to get laid quickly and go home. ".

So, like I said previously, some people will pay anything to get laid.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4963213]If you're paying $450 to see someone for 30 minutes, its strikes me as being ridiculous. A 30 minute appointment is basically showing up to fuck and leave. There is no need to pay premium for their "witty banter" or to revel in their faux intelligence. Shit, if you're showing up for 30 minutes, they probably don't even need to be that hot. A 30 minute appointment basically says, "I want to get laid quickly and go home. ".

So, like I said previously, some people will pay anything to get laid.[/QUOTE]What type of job in the real world pays $900 dollars an hour? NBA / NFL athlete?

How about try proof reading your ads or reading a book before you try to convince me you are a grad student. Lmfao!

I really don't understand why we're (not everyone but a lot of you) raking the guy over the coals for spending $450 for a hh BBFS. It feels like some of you are practically accusing him of raising prices in Seattle.

The guy shared information that was relevant to this board. If you think it's too expensive, then by all means don't partake. Personally it's a little too much for me but I appreciate the info. And I've paid more than the going rate for cfs for someone who I thought was gorgeous. To each their own.

But let's not discourage people from sharing information that is pertinent to this board.

Have a safe labor day weekend!

[QUOTE=Aegean45;4963367]I really don't understand why we're (not everyone but a lot of you) raking the guy over the coals for spending $450 for a hh BBFS. It feels like some of you are practically accusing him of raising prices in Seattle.

The guy shared information that was relevant to this board. If you think it's too expensive, then by all means don't partake. Personally it's a little too much for me but I appreciate the info. And I've paid more than the going rate for cfs for someone who I thought was gorgeous. To each their own.

But let's not discourage people from sharing information that is pertinent to this board.

Have a safe labor day weekend![/QUOTE]Most of us are not "raking" him over. We are just stating our honest opinions. Myself, as I have made clear, I would never pay that much, and in fact would pay about 1/2 of that amount, at the most. As it is, I really like Korean gals, but those prices at the Korean agencies are utterly ridiculous: $450 an hour with BBFS included. Way, way too much!

But again, to each his own. I just hope such instances are few and far between, so that prices can come down to a more reasonable level.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4963203]Some people negotiate. When I used to see escorts, I'd simply say "thanks" if the prices were too high. For some, that would end the conversation; for most, they would come back and say, "What were you looking to spend?" or "I can give you a special. " I always let them offer it instead of me offering a lower amount. That keeps them from calling you a low-baller and having an attitude when you meet.[/QUOTE]I follow with ok thanks. It works like a charm. More than 50% respond. Sometimes they ask, what. I respond with a compliment, I'm sorry I can't do that, but you look amazing. My loss. I've had someone drop from 300 to 100, insist on a qv and we end up shooting the shit for an hour, or go again. That difference rarely happens, but I don't go above what I can do. I'm also respectful in person.

[QUOTE=Aegean45;4963367]I really don't understand why we're (not everyone but a lot of you) raking the guy over the coals for spending $450 for a hh BBFS. It feels like some of you are practically accusing him of raising prices in Seattle.

The guy shared information that was relevant to this board. If you think it's too expensive, then by all means don't partake. Personally it's a little too much for me but I appreciate the info. And I've paid more than the going rate for cfs for someone who I thought was gorgeous. To each their own.

But let's not discourage people from sharing information that is pertinent to this board.

Have a safe labor day weekend![/QUOTE]This is all true.

[QUOTE=Rousse;4962932]Agreed. If $450 is a "[I]lot of money[/I]" to you, you need a different hobby. Like hiking.

People who easily afford to drive new German luxury cars, wear a Rolex or at least Apple watch, own a house or condo in this overpriced market, or regularly go out for a [I]nice[/I] dinner and drinks running several hundred dollars for two are common here. Martinis at several high-end chains with the COVID fee are now $20. Per Martini.

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The Seattle tech industry is the home of the Platinum card. Stepping down to a GPS is just slumming it.[/QUOTE]While the high-income IT demo is prominent in Seattle, it's still a minority of workers. As with most other areas, most of us are either lower wage service or mid-wage trade workers. Most of us don't have gaudy, ridiculously over-priced toys like sports / luxury cars or a rolex, and some of us live in modest apartments rather than a house or condo.

I'm not arguing someone can't pay a provider whatever they're inclined to, but to me it's wasteful, ridiculous, and could unnecessarily inflate prices.

[QUOTE=FastBreakJunk;4963520]While the high-income IT demo is prominent in Seattle, it's still a minority of workers. As with most other areas, most of us are either lower wage service or mid-wage trade workers. Most of us don't have gaudy, ridiculously over-priced toys like sports / luxury cars or a rolex, and some of us live in modest apartments rather than a house or condo.

I'm not arguing someone can't pay a provider whatever they're inclined to, but to me it's wasteful, ridiculous, and could unnecessarily inflate prices.[/QUOTE]Well stated, and I totally agree with your last sentence. It's so, so accurate.

[QUOTE=Aegean45;4963367]I really don't understand why we're (not everyone but a lot of you) raking the guy over the coals for spending $450 for a hh BBFS. It feels like some of you are practically accusing him of raising prices in Seattle.

The guy shared information that was relevant to this board. If you think it's too expensive, then by all means don't partake. Personally it's a little too much for me but I appreciate the info. And I've paid more than the going rate for cfs for someone who I thought was gorgeous. To each their own.

But let's not discourage people from sharing information that is pertinent to this board.

Have a safe labor day weekend![/QUOTE]Nobody discouraged the original person who was new to this board from posting. Another relatively new poster wrote about supporting insanely high rates while disparaging lower cost hookers. It received replies because the posts were somewhat preachy and impractical.

Low post count, rates discussion, preachy posts. Read between the lines and you'll likely come to the same conclusion I did.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4962262]Some people will pay anything to get laid.[/QUOTE]I just don't understand this reasoning. Perhaps the gentlemen are extremely picky on looks and are willing to pay for what they deem to be top shelf.

By the same token, "some people will do anyone", those who don't give a hoot about looks and are eager to pounce on anything with a sale price tag.

It's goods and services. Same as anything else you can buy and sell. Some people drink wine from a box, others prefer Leonetti.

[QUOTE=FastBreakJunk;4963520]While the high-income IT demo is prominent in Seattle, it's still a minority of workers. As with most other areas, most of us are either lower wage service or mid-wage trade workers. Most of us don't have gaudy, ridiculously over-priced toys like sports / luxury cars or a rolex, and some of us live in modest apartments rather than a house or condo.

I'm not arguing someone can't pay a provider whatever they're inclined to, but to me it's wasteful, ridiculous, and could unnecessarily inflate prices.[/QUOTE]It's wasteful to you because your priorities are different, based on your income and expenses. It's not wasteful to those who can, because they aren't buying the same thing you're buying. Stacked MILF or Princess Peach!= The Blonde Barbie or even Sarcastic. Just as a Kia lacks the luxury, style handling and performance of an M3. Stacked / Peaches are high-drama and nuts. You wouldn't pay to avoid that shit, especially if it came with a far nicer package?

A Rolex doesn't keep time quite as well as a $20 digital, but Rolex is also extremely nice comfortable jewelry, no stupider than a woman's ring or bracelet. But an "inflated" timepiece compared to a Timex.

Same way, at the end of a session, a $30 trick from the Streetwalker session or your own Rosie Palm and sisters will result in the same hormonal release as your $200 trick or my significantly-pricier one. And yet you go for the mid-priced option. Why isn't that equally wasteful? Because you have preferences and standards.

Besides, it's not inflating prices. These higher-end gals have other options that the strung-out tattooed meth-heads don't. Most have been in business or held good straight jobs, but prefer the flexibility of their current small-business venture.