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[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;6078610]Side note, every place I visited lately is 50 and 70 for half hour full hour. If you know of multiple places that are 40 60 I would like to hear about them[/QUOTE]On the West side, Hong Kong, Fang Aroma, and I believe the one in Tigard near Dollar Tree at Hall and 99 are $60 for the hour.
In SE Portland, I think 60 is still more common than 70.
[QUOTE=ExactTime;6079212]y I'm confused by you guys, are there literally girls using saran wrap or is this just a euphemism for protection in general? I've never seen that before.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are girls using saran wrap.
I've patronized over 90% of the AMPs in the area. West, East and Van and it's only about 2% of them charge 50/70 instead of 40/60 for the house fee. It's really no big deal and if a whopping ten extra dollars makes the sphincter scrunch up, then maybe the real question is: Should one even be partaking of the hobby at all?
[QUOTE=MrBigPdx;6078897]There is supposed to be a new and more attractive girl. Haven't checked her out but that is what I hear.[/QUOTE]On a different note. Went in to see Tina on Monday. The door was shut and no one came out to greet me so I walked in. Both doors were shut but I could hear that fun was being had. Waited for a few minutes and Tina came into the hallway, pulled her miniskirt down but I already got a nice glimpse of her tiny string thong. Her hair was a bit messed up and her face red as she told me 15 more minutes. Since both rooms were taken I grabbed a bottle of water and waited in the hallway. Immediately after the door was shut I could hear, someone say, "Bend over and let me stretch you out". Whoever that was gave her a good pounding. Sounded like the massage table was about to break as she was moaning soooo F'in loud. Solid 10 minutes of her taking it. Anyhow didn't want to stick around for 2 nds but "good work" whoever that was.
[QUOTE=MeeLikeeAsians;6079432]I've patronized over 90% of the AMPs in the area. West, East and Van and it's only about 2% of them charge 50/70 instead of 40/60 for the house fee. It's really no big deal and if a whopping ten extra dollars makes the sphincter scrunch up, then maybe the real question is: Should one even be partaking of the hobby at all?[/QUOTE]If we let them do that next is 20 dollars and then 30 dollars. They need our business we got the power. These granny's think they can rip us off and call the shots. Nope not going to happen to me.
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For fans of Wendy that worked at Relax in Oregon City, she is now at Rainbow in Salem. The building is about 150 feet from a restaurant called Annette's, same side of street.
Zen sucks probably the worst massage in the business, bull rushes you to the tug tries to get you out with in ten minutes.
Chrystal hearts was a rip off 60 bucks for 30 minutes. While I was getting massaged the 40 ish old lady kept farting on accident not a turn on. Left disappointed with a over priced standard finish. Won't be coming back.
[QUOTE=BillJ1984;6081315]Zen sucks probably the worst massage in the business, bull rushes you to the tug tries to get you out with in ten minutes.
Chrystal hearts was a rip off 60 bucks for 30 minutes. While I was getting massaged the 40 ish old lady kept farting on accident not a turn on. Left disappointed with a over priced standard finish. Won't be coming back.[/QUOTE]Zen on hall by 7-11 ?
Healing Touch has a new girl. Late 30's, slender, nice body, and nice face. Decent massage with a fun menu. Supposedly another new and younger will be there on the 1st of September. Will have to see what she's like.
[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;6081853]Zen on hall by 7-11 ?[/QUOTE]Yeah next to 711 no luck there. I'm only 5 minutes away. No extras for me so far.
[QUOTE=BillJ1984;6080312]If we let them do that next is 20 dollars and then 30 dollars. They need our business we got the power. These granny's think they can rip us off and call the shots. Nope not going to happen to me.[/QUOTE]It's not the girls that are raising the house fee, but the owners. Depending on the place, the girl might not get any of the house fee and is only working for tips. The rising tip fee is the girls though.
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[QUOTE=MeeLikeeAsians;6083895]Have been to ZFM at least 2 dozen times and never left without extras. This is a prime example of the YMMV concept in this hobby. If the lady doesn't want to provide extras to a particular customer, she's not going to even if it means she misses out on some extra tip money.Not every worker at a AMP is desperate and money hungry.[/QUOTE]I'm not as verbal as most of you, I've met several good people. One thing in common is that, they all have their bottom line. As mentioned previously a lot of it has to do with the customers attitude. If you're an asshole they'll just process you out the door as quickly as possible. Most of them have become, it not a little callous a good judge of character. What they do and how they act is totally up to them. One thing perhaps you're not aware of is that they're very touchy about being looked down upon. So go in there pleasant and respectful perhaps things will change for you. What you do and how people act is none of my business I just throw in my 2 cents.
It's been a couple years now since I went in but ZFM was a sure thing for me every time. I never tried for bareback but Jasmine was always down to fuck.
[QUOTE=BarqBiter;6084111]It's been a couple years now since I went in but ZFM was a sure thing for me every time. I never tried for bareback but Jasmine was always down to fuck.[/QUOTE]Any advice for me? I still can't seal the deal LOL.
[QUOTE=Trumpeter;6083587]It's not the girls that are raising the house fee, but the owners. Depending on the place, the girl might not get any of the house fee and is only working for tips. The rising tip fee is the girls though.[/QUOTE]The price of everything is going up, so we shouldn't be surprised if more spas raise their rates to 50/70. We should be complaining about the necessities we need to live being overly expensive now, not complaining because we're paying an extra $10 for an extracurricular activity. If guys don't like the prices or can't afford the expensive hobby then they should rub one out at home and save the $100-$150, or choose a cheaper hobby like bird watching.
[QUOTE=Dexxzy;6067256]Anyone been to the place near SE 160th and Glisan (Red Star) recently? Saw Amy a few times, but I think she's gone now.[/QUOTE]I did a recon recently. Attractive MILF showing some boob with a great smile. She called out the other girl that was taller and slimmer and she looked good too. Recon only I didn't have a session.
[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;6081853]Zen on hall by 7-11 ?[/QUOTE]I know the owner, she he works very hard and extras are available if you are generous. She is also licensed and probably gives the best massage in town. You just need to be nice.
[QUOTE=PaulPdx;6075546]Long time / First time. I thought I should contribute. I went to Sweet Spa in Vancouver (it's been mentioned here several times recently). 2 girls working when I was there.
The lady I saw was nice looking and around 35 yr old with good English. .[/QUOTE]Last week I happened to be in the area and thought I would check out the new girl. I was met by a mid 40's attractive provider with a nice smile. She came over to give me a hug and I returned the same noticing she was wearing body armor under her shorts. My guess is no chance for FS at this shop. The rate is 60/60 now but 50/30.
I recently stated that most of the places I have been to are now 50 and 70 for 30/60 minutes. After seeing some posts, I decided to do a survey. I rarely go to Vancouver so I did not include any of those shops. These are all in Oregon, specifically Portland metro.
40/60.
Aurora, Division.
Angel, Hall.
Blue Ocean, Division.
Healing Touch, 82nd.
50/60.
Blue Rose, Powell.
Joy, Barbur.
50/70.
1 Feug Qi, Powell.
2. Asian Rain, McLoughlin.
3. Skylight, Barbur.
4. Sunny, Cornell.
5. Sunny, Hwy 99.
6. Lucky, Naito.
7. EZ, Park.
8. Zen, Hall.
9. Barbur, Barbur.
10 Elemental, Boones.
11 Lucky, Cornell.
12 Foot, Hwy 99 (Across from JoAnn fabrics).
13 Red Star, Glisan.
14 Relax, Oregon City.
15 2 spa, Mcloughlin.
15 Q Wellness, Hwy 99.
16 Asian Rain. Mcloughlin.
17 Yi Chi, 82nd.
18 Green Tea, Mcloughlin.
19 Yoyo, Willamette.
20 Nice Day, Boones.
21 Foot Heaven, Harrison.
22 Message Magic, Foster.
23 Foot Body, BiMart parking lot, Oregon City.
24 Message Magic, 82nd.
As you can see, the majority of the places are charging 50/70.
I'm ok with this, just like I'm ok with spending 20 extra dollars to double my time.
I've had FS at 2/3 of these shops.
[QUOTE=BillJ1984;6084335]Any advice for me? I still can't seal the deal LOL.[/QUOTE]I kinda worked up to it with her over a couple of sessions but I found that when she straddled my head to rub my back, she was receptive to me reaching up her skirt and grabbing her ass, and then rubbing her pussy. Then she got on the table with me and made out with me for a while, and then started pulling my dick towards her crotch. After that session she was pretty much game whenever I showed up.
Usual advice about being clean (or at least not smelly), polite, pleasant, not too grabby, etc.
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[QUOTE=VacMaster;6085909]I know the owner, she he works very hard and extras are available if you are generous. She is also licensed and probably gives the best massage in town. You just need to be nice.[/QUOTE]Idk the 5 times went over there I was super nice and very generous. I showed up on time, clean and I still got a terrible massage with a jack hammer finish. Made my guy swell, had to put ice on it.
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[QUOTE=VacMaster;6085909]I know the owner, she he works very hard and extras are available if you are generous. She is also licensed and probably gives the best massage in town. You just need to be nice.[/QUOTE]Agreed on this also, attitude is everything in this endeavor. Some will bang anyone for the cash, some will not. As always some will requires more visits and a comfort level with who you are and how you treat them and the monetary donations.
[QUOTE=OneOne9;6085539]I did a recon recently. Attractive MILF showing some boob with a great smile. She called out the other girl that was taller and slimmer and she looked good too. Recon only I didn't have a session.[/QUOTE]Go try the tall slim one. She'll ride you like a small pony. Really great figure when she's bouncing up and down.
[QUOTE=OneOne9;6085948]she was wearing body armor under her shorts. My guess is no chance for FS at this shop. The rate is 60/60 now but 50/30.[/QUOTE]"Body armor under shorts" what's that? Kevlar? Steel underwear? Or pantiliner, she could be on her cycle? .
[QUOTE=Monkeyboy1977;6087203]"Body armor under shorts" what's that? Kevlar? Steel underwear? Or pantiliner, she could be on her cycle? .[/QUOTE]LOL I was hoping someone here had seen her and could tell us. It felt more like a very robust old fashioned girdle. Something that would take a little effort to get in and out of.
[QUOTE=Monkeyboy1977;6087194]Go try the tall slim one. She'll ride you like a small pony. Really great figure when she's bouncing up and down.[/QUOTE]Actually, the shorter one was friendlier and gave off a better vibe. Like I mentioned it could have been due to the slimmer one being called out from the back since it was probably the other girls turn. I didn't think she was really that tall, 5"5" would be my guess. Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Monkeyboy1977;6087194]Go try the tall slim one. She'll ride you like a small pony. Really great figure when she's bouncing up and down.[/QUOTE]We definitely have a difference in opinion on physique. She has an okay figure and belly fat, so about an average woman.
[QUOTE=OneOne9;6087494]Actually, the shorter one was friendlier and gave off a better vibe. Like I mentioned it could have been due to the slimmer one being called out from the back since it was probably the other girls turn. I didn't think she was really that tall, 5"5" would be my guess. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Definitely taller than 5'5, I'd say 5'7.
[QUOTE=VacMaster;6085909]I know the owner, she he works very hard and extras are available if you are generous. She is also licensed and probably gives the best massage in town. You just need to be nice.[/QUOTE]I've been going to Zen for years, by far the best massage I've had & always aims to please.
[QUOTE=BarqBiter;6086164]I kinda worked up to it with her over a couple of sessions but I found that when she straddled my head to rub my back, she was receptive to me reaching up her skirt and grabbing her ass, and then rubbing her pussy. Then she got on the table with me and made out with me for a while, and then started pulling my dick towards her crotch. After that session she was pretty much game whenever I showed up.
Usual advice about being clean (or at least not smelly), polite, pleasant, not too grabby, etc.[/QUOTE]When was the last time you seen her? Your probably a good looking guy. I look like George Castanza. Well wish me luck I'll try again Friday LOL.
[QUOTE=Reacher12;6087823]I've been going to Zen for years, by far the best massage I've had & always aims to please.[/QUOTE]How far have you gone with her? I like details please idk her massage is weak.
Flying in for a few days, and would like to visit either an escort, club, or AMP. Clubs are usually ripoffs although always a nice change to see beautiful girls than what we get at the other two. I typically have to scout out escorts in advance and no time for that so I'll likely skip that. So, AMP is likely the answer.
Looking at Rubmaps there are a shitton in area so can anyone help and narrow down to 2-3 really good ones? Ideally affordable FS (meaning 100 range after house fee) but really just any that provide good service and don't feel like I'm being rushed through a factory line LOL.
Basically, if you had to pick two to keep, which would you keep?
I know you probably get these questions a lot so I understand if you ignore but hopefully I can get a few suggestions. Thanks!
[QUOTE=TheIceGuy;6090919]Flying in for a few days, and would like to visit either an escort, club, or AMP. So, AMP is likely the answer.
Looking at Rubmaps there are a shitton in area so can anyone help and narrow down to 2-3
I know you probably get these questions a lot so I understand if you ignore but hopefully I can get a few suggestions. Thanks![/QUOTE]Sent you a pm.
A new AMP next to the library. Haven't tried it yet.
[QUOTE=NoFearToTry;6091162]Sent you a pm.[/QUOTE]Your box is full. My reply was basically the Portland area. First time in city so I don't know area names.
[QUOTE=Clancy88;6091596]A new AMP next to the library. Haven't tried it yet.[/QUOTE]I think spellcheck got a hold of it the first time. The name is Reiz Spa by the library on McLoughlin. Looks like it is probably legit, but I think the ownership is the same as the Healthy Spa on 184th and Division, So who knows.
Waiting for Sunnys to get new girls in September so I opted for a new to me place on HWY 99 across from Veela. Af seemed promising for extras. Standard 40/60.
Arrived at opening time but they were closed. Called 15 minutes later. I clearly woke her up, I should've bailed. Grandma with bed head opened shop.
6/10 massage, but only because she was thorough. Walls don't go all the way up separating the rooms.
As she massaged my legs and ass I legs my hips a bit hoping for some teasing, instead she covered me with a towel and kept it there the entire time.
The topper was hearing someone sleeping in the next room.