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I average one a month of all personals, turn down a few, BJ's from all though

I'm curious how you go about hooking up on CL. I can hit one a month from casual encounters, but it takes a lot of work. The other option is to post in men seeking women or answer a women seeking men ad, but that usually takes one date minimum (sometimes a few) before sealing the deal.

I usually answer casual encounters ads, but most are spambots. They're easy to spot in the response email because it's something ridiculous like rwjsudyrk82768@yahoo.com. Many of the remaining are hookers, and a very few are legit.

I usually send back a pic in the first response (neck down, of course!) , and keep the email short since most are not real people to begin with. The other problem on CL is that of the real people that post, a large percentage get cold feet before meeting. Lots of people *think* they'd like a casual NSA hookup with a stranger, but fantasy is different from reality and they have a hard time pulling the trigger.

The other method I've taken which may not be for some of you guys is to be the third and bang a girl with her husband watching. I'd say about half of my hookups from CL have come from this method. The MW4M ads seem to be legit much more than W4M. But again, lots of couples get cold feet before pulling the trigger.

How do you go about it on CL?

[QUOTE=WheelerJim;1370575]I average one a month of all personals, turn down a few, BJ's from all though[/QUOTE]

Never seen such a collection of providers from BP, CL, and ones reviewed here in one place as I did last night. In Babes bar in what used to be HJ hotel. Now magnusen inn. Something like that. Across from westtown mall. Saw ten I recognized and a few others a bit more under the radar.

The knox swingers in there too. One of swinger females left her husband took a pass at me. Also in there was a large number of the freebie types looking to hook up.

One of the freebie types was giving a BJ to a guy right where everybody could see out in the bar. Waitress had security break that up.

Lots of tit flashing in the bar.

Heck of a Saturday night in there. Like shooting fish in a barrel getting laid in there last night. Tons of freebie action.

That doesn't surprise me at all. Glad to know that's where the swingers lurk about. The seedy rundown outside of it has always turned me away. Glad to know though.

[QUOTE=Rwestlake; 1370563]Totally agree that it takes much more time to cultivate a girl off of CL than just calling up a girl from Backpage. And if time is money, you're better off paying for it up front if you just want to get laid.

But honestly, the thrill of the chase is what does it for me. It's the seduction. And when you seal the deal with a CL or dating site girl, they're really into it and not watching the clock.

I usually do what you did. Sample the goodies and then disappear. But there have been a few girls I've met online who are just as interested in anonymous safe action as I am. I've seen some of these girls several times for great sex and we've never asked each others' last names. Those are what keep me coming back to CL.[/QUOTE]I have never had an ongoing thing with any ladies I metthrough CL. But I used to get on the old chat line years ago before they changed it and messed it up. I met several on there that I had ongoing affairs with. I never had to actually take any of thiose out on a date and spend money. And there was several that I didn't even have to get a room for they were fine with using there place. I met one lady up in Severville that was quite a bit older than me sshe was 62 when we first got togetwher. She had been a widow for 10 years and hadn't had sex since her husband died and he was the only man she had ever had sex with. This lady had never really had any experience her husband was a baptist preacher. When I dud DATY on her she wouldn't let me stop till she came when I stoppec after about 15 mins that first time she told me not to stop that she wanted to cum that way. I found out later that it was the first time she had ever had DATY. After we had sex I got the first BJ that she had ever given. A few weeks later I was also the first to get in her back door. This lady was great in bed willing to do anything. I banged her for over 3 years at her place and all it ever cost me was the time and gas to drive up there.

Does anyone have any info on this lady. She looks great but searched and only found minimal reviews on Greenville SC forum.

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/watever-it-requires-x-i-aim-to-satisfy-your-desires-great-specials-22/5031394[/url]

[QUOTE=Mavrik2; 1371613]Does anyone have any info on this lady. She looks great but searched and only found minimal reviews on Greenville SC forum.

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/watever-it-requires-x-i-aim-to-satisfy-your-desires-great-specials-22/5031394[/url][/QUOTE]Two Pup Posted this on the 25th (BP thread) She has a web site and one linked review. I reached out to her tonight and I am going to see her despite Two Pup's research about no kissing and no DATY. She appears to be legit and is the girl in the pics. Damn, she is one hot Chica!

[QUOTE=TwoPupPop; 1367978]Let's look at a couple of today's ads, since the number of ads seem to have exploded!

Next, Hailey:

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/help-me-take-this-off-sexy-blonde_-100-independent-_-no-disappointments-22/5012332[/url]

She has a new phone number and new pics, so it made it a little more difficult to find information on her, but I believe she's legit. Her website is:

[url]http://www.hailey.sexynclassy.com/gallery.htm[/url]

She has a couple reasonable reviews on another site, but apparently NO KISSING and no DATY on the menu either, but the reviews I read say that she's quite the looker with a great ass and a rack to die for, and knows how to work the hips.

TPP[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen, I had one final bender before taking an indefinite leave of the hobby. Let me say that it has been an honor and a privilege mongering with you all. And now for my final report. I know I have a tendency to get wordy. I apologize in advance.

Act 1. Swinger Reconnaissance.

After reading a report that Babe's Lounge at the Magnuson Hotel was a swingers' hangout, I figured I'd go have a look and TOFTT. It wasn't really TOFTT because I had to eat dinner anyway. And I figured that it would be a bust for my personal gratification since it was Monday night, but at least I could chat up the bartender and get the info to pass along to you guys.

From the exterior of the hotel, I was expecting the inside to look like a cross between the projects and Beruit circa 1978. I was pleasantly surprised. The lobby was clean, lots of marble, and lots of mirrors. It was like slipping back into the 70's. Babe's is located just off of the lobby. As expected, the place was totally dead. A 68 year old woman with big hair and lots of lipstick sat across the bar and eyed me. I just kept chatting with the bartender and watching Sportscenter. The place does look like a sleazy lounge, and the bartender confirmed that it's dead all week and then crazy on Friday and Saturday night. Otherwise don't waste your time. Surprisingly, the club sandwich I ordered was decent. One of you guys will have to TOFTT on the weekend and report back. I'll still probably read the forum.

Act 2. Crystal Massage.

I've been to Crystal once before during the daytime and didn't get much. I only went back because I am apparently the only member on this board who doesn't leave happy. On my previous visit, the masseuse (I use the term very loosely) at least let my hands wander and flipped me over. I could tell at the end she was really debating on whether or not to give the HE but wasn't sure if I was a cop. This time, I went after dark and made damn well sure that she knew I was not a LEO.

I paid the. 6 and stripped down right in front of her. I hopped up on the table and she threw a towel over me to start the massage. After a couple of minutes I said "It's kind of warm in here. Can we do away with the towel?" And away the towel went. Things were looking up.

Let me throw this in here: nobody at that place speaks a damn word of English. It's gestures. My little massage lady could say "sixty" and "ok". Now I can chat just about anyone up. As long as they speak English that is. How am I supposed to build repoire with this girl when she only knows two words?

I tried though. Through the first few minutes, my hands brushed her lower legs. When she climbed onto the table and put her thighs on either side of my head to rub my back, I ran my hands up her legs and started feeling her thighs. This went on for a minute or two and then she climbed off, took my hands, put them by my side, and said "OK" with an edge. Point taken. Keep my hands to myself.

I pretty much lost interest at this point. I'd seen this movie the last time I was there, and it didn't end happily. My mind started to wander. I thought about how sixty bucks buys you a proper sports massage from someone who actually went to massage school and knows what the hell they're doing. And how this little lady didn't have a clue and probably watched the Asian version of Troy McClure's "Learn Massage in 15 Minutes". And wondered why the fuck anyone would go to an Asian Massage Parlor if it wasn't to leave happy. It sure as hell wasn't for the massage.

I was snapped back to reality by my little massage lady leaning over and whispering in my ear "done". Hallelujah! She knows THREE words! I repeated to make sure she really meant we were finished and not "done with the back, please flip over". No, we were definitely done with the massage. No flip. WTF?

So then she gets all sappy sweet and wants to dress me. It takes her a minute to figure out typical American men's clothing. I just wanted to get dressed and get the hell out of there. But I played the game. When she was finished, she stood at attention in front of me and held out both hands, ready for her tip. My jaw dropped. I've never seen such a brazen sense of entitlement and impoliteness.

Gentlemen, I did not do the right thing. I was a pussy. I reached in my jacket and handed her a Lincoln. I should've been a man and given her nothing. She got this pissed off look on her face and said "No! Twenty". If you're keeping score, she has now demonstrated mastery of five words. I actually laughed in her face. It just came out and I couldn't help it. Twenty for what, I wonder? I should've taken the five back and left. But instead I just left.

Now you might think this is cruel since usually girls don't get any of the door and work for tips alone. But we need to stand firm when services are not provided. If we do this a few times, these thick headed girls will learn WTF an Asian massage parlor is supposed to be about. I'm not paying for services not rendered. I do hope my provider ponders that as she thinks of working an hour for five bucks.

Act III. The Street.

It was getting late, but I still wasn't taken care of. I made a trip down N Central from Broadway on the way home. There were a few Monets that I almost stopped for. You know: girls that look great from far away but rough up close. I spotted a lady that looked a little rotund and swung around back to get her. Her name is Crystal. Pretty face, long dirty blonde hair, and a real sweetheart. We talked for about five minutes, then got down to business.

Although Crystal may be one of the sweetest and most sober SWers I've ever picked up, it is not pretty when she undresses. I gave her. 4 for full service, which she happily accepted. Guys, when I say she was sweet and as country as a turnip green, I mean it. She was also very clean. But in spite of not being even remotely attracted to her I did the deed. Didn't try to make it last. I just got it done.

Crystal also demonstrated salesmanship. She pushed her digits on me. I didn't even save them to offer out because you're better off just spanking it.

Good luck out there guys!

Has anyone visited this provider?

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/upscale-provider-34/2624986[/url]

I have seen her advertise massages on another, now shut down, website in the Greeneville, TN area. Is she working in Knoville now? What services does she offer? I guest I could TOFTT but I haven't had the hobby time I need the last few weeks.

Another question I have concerns Taylar / Tsuki.

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/taylar-now-specials-today-only-26/3644435[/url]

I've read the forum concerning the drama but what I wanted to know is, are the photos accurate? I've don't recall reading anything about the photos.

[QUOTE=Rwestlake;1371833]Gentlemen, I had one final bender before taking an indefinite leave of the hobby. Let me say that it has been an honor and a privilege mongering with you all. And now for my final report.[/QUOTE]I would be discouraged, too after a night like that. That report reminds me why I typically stay away from MPs and SWs. Let's see, .65 for a crappy massage by an unattractive alien with no hint of offering what he really went for, then. 4 for a quick car fuck with a skank ho not even as good as rubbing one out at home. That's all after wasting who knows how much time doing recon on a dead night at a weekend swingers joint. That's one final bender, all right (sarcasm drips here).

Add in the gas money and extra time wasted driving from one dead end street to another, then back and forth on the stroll for a while looking for that one special skank, and damn! You could have had a really memorable hour with one or two reliably hot and sexy escorts who are well known around these parts, for not a hell of a lot more money, and with a hell of a lot less effort wasted in the hunt. A couple of phone calls, scheduling a mutually convenient time, and then enjoying each other's company for an hour buck nekkid in a comfortable bed.

Oh well, to each his own. Maybe part of the thrill is in the chase, but I know which option I prefer. Best of luck in your retirement (or hiatus) , RW.

I agree. That's a sad way to go out. But best of luck in whatever you're doing.

[QUOTE=Rwestlake; 1371833]Gentlemen, I had one final bender before taking an indefinite leave of the hobby. Let me say that it has been an honor and a privilege mongering with you all. And now for my final report. I know I have a tendency to get wordy. I apologize in advance.

Act 2.

I think guys may be approaching this too aggressively. Don't refuse the towel; it's part of the routine. Don't engage in any roaming the first time, particularly before the flip. Don't verbally request additional services or mention money; they know why you are there. Don't go there expecting a Korean menu; this is AMP Lite. Do pay for a full hour. Do feel comfortable maintaining your silence. Do smile nicely on the flip. Do leave a nice tip even if nothing happens the first time; I always contribute 40-50 to the Chinese Orphans Fund.

And finally, don't go there at all if you are 35, fit, a crew cut and drive a black Crown Vic. I don't have this problem, LOL.

Oh yeah, English is spoken but because of the accent it doesn't sound like English.

You nailed me on everything except the make of the car! I honestly never realized that there was a difference in how Chinese and Korean AMPs are run. My experience has always been Korean, and the only drama was whether or not the price was going to swing +- twenty bucks.

[QUOTE=Gooshpop;1372116]And finally, don't go there at all if you are 35, fit, a crew cut and drive a black Crown Vic. I don't have this problem, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Occupant; 1371984]Has anyone visited this provider?

[url]http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/upscale-provider-34/2624986[/url]

I have seen her advertise massages on another, now shut down, website in the Greeneville, TN area. Is she working in Knoville now? What services does she offer? I guest I could TOFTT but I haven't had the hobby time I need the last few weeks.

See my report #415 on this thread. My experience is two years old. Saw her twice near Kingsport. Professional quality massage with HE / Roaming. Very nice bolt ons.

She only offered an HE at the time. I called her several months later and she said she had expanded her menu but offered no specifics over the phone. I never had a chance to follow up on the expanded menu.

Three of her pics are exactly how she looked 2 years ago. In fact her face is actually prettier in person. The pic where she is wearing the coat doesn't look like the other three.

Before getting into the massage business she worked at one of the local strip clubs here in Knox.

She is chatty but I enjoyed the experience and will see her again if she is now in Knox.

[QUOTE=Rwestlake;1372207]You nailed me on everything except the make of the car! I honestly never realized that there was a difference in how Chinese and Korean AMPs are run. My experience has always been Korean, and the only drama was whether or not the price was going to swing +- twenty bucks.[/QUOTE]The Crystal on Broadway.

The Chinese AMP is defiantly different. I was on my third trip before I struck gold. Be modest and somewhat passive with the gal, like the Oriental men are. On the other hand I always pay, up front with a hundred so she knows I have at least forty bucks for a tip. I usually leave forty or so for a HJ. Also, be sure to tell the massage lady how much you like their place and that you have been there before. I really enjoy a good massage and a happy ending HJ is just icing on the cake for me.

As much as I like Asian FS, I don't think it's going to here, at least not with me, I want a damn door on my room for that.

YMMV.

Nick