Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=KingHarem;7201561]As with any experience in this game, YMMV, but at TJ Showgirls is a fully nude place, and I was able to get FS. At first I was trying to maybe get a BJ / HJ from a Colombian dancer, (I paid for 3 songs, semi private booths on the side). But then I ended paying for 30 min in private room in back, because she needed full privacy for extras. I negotiated CBJ / CFS (Only 1 position, I was sitting down, pants on, fly open, cock out, she put on a rubber, blew me, and then rode me cowgirl while I sucked on her titties. Total was 700, about half of that was for the table / room dances and other half was tip. After I had finished in the condom, I left the condom on (bc I didn't want to spill my cum everywhere), zipped up my pants and trying my best to discreetly walk to bathroom to cleanup. Seemed like all the other girls was staring / smiling at my walk of shame and knew what was up (and maybe even game to offer same extras as well?[/QUOTE]Was it busy when you were there? I went when it was empty and was propositioned by 5 dancers 1 after the other in pretty quick succession that all explicitly offered my extras for the VIP fee and whatever I felt like tipping. This was an afternoon and I'm in my 30's so maybe had something to do with it.

[QUOTE=FrankReynolds;7202742]Was it busy when you were there? I went when it was empty and was propositioned by 5 dancers 1 after the other in pretty quick succession that all explicitly offered my extras for the VIP fee and whatever I felt like tipping. This was an afternoon and I'm in my 30's so maybe had something to do with it.[/QUOTE]When I arrived it was not busy, but by time I left it was busy. How much did you pay for VIP? And what extras / tips? I already know I overpaid as a newbie, but would like to know the going rate. The part that sucks is I'm horrible at negotiation. They say whatever you want if you pay for VIP, and once you pay the VIP, it's like no its going to be this much extra tip for extras. At this point you don't want to have paid VIP for nothing, and forced to bite bullet for whatever they are charging.

[QUOTE=KingHarem;7205894]When I arrived it was not busy, but by time I left it was busy. How much did you pay for VIP? And what extras / tips? I already know I overpaid as a newbie, but would like to know the going rate. The part that sucks is I'm horrible at negotiation. They say whatever you want if you pay for VIP, and once you pay the VIP, it's like no its going to be this much extra tip for extras. At this point you don't want to have paid VIP for nothing, and forced to bite bullet for whatever they are charging.[/QUOTE]If they told you whatever you want to tip then you got the same pitch as the other guy. I don't think he took them to VIP so he didn't get the switch like you did. That was an important detail missing from your report on overpaying. You should name the stripper so we know that she pulls this scam. In the future, set the details before the VIP. If you're already taking in detail about the service, you might as well make clear on the tip. They still can pull that bs scam, then you'll have a decision of caving in, get a reg VIP or walking out.

[QUOTE=AssCoach;7125026]For the hottest ladies in OC, very high mileage and close to the airport, go to ecstasy.

Ecstasy Theatre.[/QUOTE]I'm a long-time Southern California monger and info sharer, coming back into OC from my retirement home next week.

I was a regular patron of Ecstacy due to the quality of girls and lack of typical Kim club BS. Expensive, yes, but long songs and good action if you get 3-4 $50 songs and outwit their time-wasting strategies. Pulled some OTC with a couple, but costly there as well. And that was before all the inflation LOL.

So my question for the sharers left on this site: the names of willing and comparatively reasonable day shift hotties, and whether night shift is worth the even-higher premium. Private message me if you want. I will report my findings after my trip (unless someone helps me and asks for confidentiality so the leech idiots here don't pester their favorite girl haha). I know how to negotiate, so no need to mention pricing.

I'm historically a day-shifter, but this trip I have a couple free nights so I plan to hit a couple clubs then as well (TJ; s has long been my go-to, wondering where CA Girls Santa Ana registers on the wild oscillation between shitty and really good that it regularly made in the past). Any help on those cubs would be appreciated as well.

Thanks for your input.

[QUOTE=Surfaboy;7206351]If they told you whatever you want to tip then you got the same pitch as the other guy. I don't think he took them to VIP so he didn't get the switch like you did. That was an important detail missing from your report on overpaying. You should name the stripper so we know that she pulls this scam. In the future, set the details before the VIP. If you're already taking in detail about the service, you might as well make clear on the tip. They still can pull that bs scam, then you'll have a decision of caving in, get a reg VIP or walking out.[/QUOTE]This guy and FrankR are dead on, in responding to the inexperienced guy paying $700 for FS. ALWAYS confirm the specifics (acts and price) before they get you in the room. ALWAYS show the money at the start but don't give it until goods are delivered. ALWAYS report here on the names of any dancers who lie and rip you off (not ones who were vague and suckered you because you didn't follow these rules. That's mostly on you I'm afraid, they're not actively lying just letting you believe what you want to believe. Still not nice, but not worth boycotting by those who know what they're doing).

[QUOTE=Surfaboy;7206351]If they told you whatever you want to tip then you got the same pitch as the other guy. I don't think he took them to VIP so he didn't get the switch like you did. That was an important detail missing from your report on overpaying. You should name the stripper so we know that she pulls this scam. In the future, set the details before the VIP. If you're already taking in detail about the service, you might as well make clear on the tip. They still can pull that bs scam, then you'll have a decision of caving in, get a reg VIP or walking out.[/QUOTE]I think they're all technically "VIP" dances there. Some are behind curtains and the upsell is for the private room with a bed on it. Private rooms are dingey as hell.

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;7211879]This guy and FrankR are dead on, in responding to the inexperienced guy paying $700 for FS. ALWAYS confirm the specifics (acts and price) before they get you in the room. ALWAYS show the money at the start but don't give it until goods are delivered. ALWAYS report here on the names of any dancers who lie and rip you off (not ones who were vague and suckered you because you didn't follow these rules. That's mostly on you I'm afraid, they're not actively lying just letting you believe what you want to believe. Still not nice, but not worth boycotting by those who know what they're doing).[/QUOTE]Yea, like I admitted, I know I overpaid. I really dislike negotiation for 2 reasons, I feel like it can be a trap to get an audio recording, of you clearly stating your intent to break the law "So in exchange for $200 dollars, I want to have oral and full intercourse. " "Sure honey, me let freshen up in bathroom real quick" * CUE THE VICE SQUAD. Also when you have to start haggling back and forth, it feels like it can kill the mood for both parties, she won't be all in it if she felt she was lowballed, I might not be all into it if I felt I was ripped off.

I used to live in SD, so all my prior experience was in the real TJ aka Mexico, but only after researching on sister site internationalsexguide, and confirming the high volume places like Adelita Bar, pretty much 100% girls provided FS, and the price and services was pretty standard $60 for 30 min CBJ / CFS, don't even have to mention pricing, just pick your girl from crowd and its off to the $12 hotel coahuila room.

But now I live in OC, after researching usasexguide, the only place that appeared 100% certain that all the girls offered FS with standard pricing was the asian massage place called Right Spa. None of the reviews could confirm that there was a strip club, that 100% of girls offered FS, and if lucky to find someone willing, the pricing was not standard at all. So I planned my night, early in evening my first attempt at FS at strip club would be TJ's showgirls, and if I left unsatisfied and ripped off, the night was still not over for my first attempt at FS at an AMP. I ended up at Right Spa later that night, which I had an awesome foursome for 400 (50 house, 120 x3 girls) I forked over the 410, no mention on what services were to be provided and they automatically proceeded DFK / BBBJ / DATY / CFS x3, with each girl playfully fighting over my cock that it was "their turn".

I'm really curious to try the other places mentioned on the other OC boards, like Korg BBFS, private delights, humaniplex, enclaves? But none of those places seemed like 100% certain options either.

[QUOTE=FrankReynolds;7211974]I think they're all technically "VIP" dances there. Some are behind curtains and the upsell is for the private room with a bed on it. Private rooms are dingey as hell.[/QUOTE]That's besides the point. I used "VIP" because that is the term you two were using.

[QUOTE=KingHarem;7213054]Yea, like I admitted, I know I overpaid. I really dislike negotiation for 2 reasons, I feel like it can be a trap to get an audio recording...
But now I live in OC, after researching usasexguide, the only place that appeared 100% certain that all the girls offered FS with standard pricing was the asian massage place ...
I'm really curious to try the other places mentioned on the other OC boards, like Korg BBFS, private delights, humaniplex, enclaves? But none of those places seemed like 100% certain options either.[/QUOTE]It's understandable when you are inexperienced, we all make mistakes at the start. Just learn and move on to a happier outcome.

The chance of a police "sting" in a long established strip club seem extraordinarily low. TJ's has been in business since at least 1997, that's when I started going there. Rhino and the Kim clubs (Synn, Imperial, Rio) likewise, and they make so much damn $$$ from us pathetic losers that they will NEVER cooperate with the cops. I'd be FAR more worried about getting busted on any anonymous phone or online booking like a ACS or Korg, listcrawlers, etc. At a strip club, it's anonymous, loud and convo is private. Yeah until you practice it a few times, it can feel uncomfortable to haggle over explicit acts like you're buying a used car. But suffering overpay experiences like you did will get you comfortable doing it fast (or else strip clubs just aren't the game for you).

Dude, there are no 100% certain guarantees of FS anywhere. I've been married twice, and not even with a wife. These are women we are dealing with, you know? Sex workers in any context will try to rip you off if they can, at least like 75% of the time. You got to learn the game, and play it well to protect yourself. And accept that you win some, you lose some. Even after 25+ years, I occasionally get a dance where I was sure paradise was coming but then I hear "tip to touch?" You just take the loss, be more disciplined the next time, and move on to the next girl. And report the Rip-Off ***** on monger boards like this so others will be forewarned. You can't be an f'and "entitled" guy thinking what you want is going to be delivered just because some 19-year old user working to support her habit is telling you it will. Getting sex is not shooting fish in a barrel (unless maybe you're a rock star, drug dealer, trust fund baby, etc.), even with sex workers.

And why is always "San Diego" guys who don't seem to get this? Life must be privileged down there LOL.

I've got no names for you. I haven't been to a strip club since 2019. The quality of girls seems to have declined considerably (I don't like thick / chubby girls) and the prices are out of control. I used to be quite the regular at the Dirty Bird day shift. I miss that place! Good luck boys.

[QUOTE=KingHarem;7213054]Yea, like I admitted, I know I overpaid. I really dislike negotiation for 2 reasons, I feel like it can be a trap to get an audio recording, of you clearly stating your intent to break the law "So in exchange for $200 dollars, I want to have oral and full intercourse. " "Sure honey, me let freshen up in bathroom real quick" * CUE THE VICE SQUAD. Also when you have to start haggling back and forth, it feels like it can kill the mood for both parties, she won't be all in it if she felt she was lowballed, I might not be all into it if I felt I was ripped off.[/QUOTE]In your report, the girl already made the explicit offer and said tip what you want. In that situation, you just needed to make clear the tip amount. I would still verify the service, just in case. If you want to verify the service, you don't have to name the exact act, you can always just say full service. Another option, especially if you're trying to get a feel for the girl, is to just get a regular lap dance. If she's open to more, her hands will make it known or where your hands are allowed will make it known. If she's rubbing your dick, you should feel comfortable taking about service without the fear of being a sting.

First, thanks for nothing in way of reports / info. The days of the useful monger site are over, I guess. So in that vein:

TJ's: 2 daytime visits, very weak lineups of 5-6 girls. Mostly pudgy Latinas and / or girls who looked like they'd rather be hawking donuts. Price increases for VIP are absurd for such middling talent. This was my favorite spot, but the old days are gone.

Cal Girls SA: Day visit, 3 girls. One hottie (more accurately a hot body butterface); got a dance but no C / S skills or mileage she just wanted to chat. Good conversationalist actually, but no heat and no real mileage appeared available. Morgan I think? Another good body (Sasha?) but half-assed effort and didn't even strip on stage. 3rd girl was a pudgy Latina and looked like she could go nasty, but by this point I gave up.

Ecstacy: Not open Sunday or Monday: denied.

Thank god for the AMPs, they save my trip. LOL.

[QUOTE=KingHarem;7213054]Yea, like I admitted, I know I overpaid. I really dislike negotiation for 2 reasons, I feel like it can be a trap to get an audio recording, of you clearly stating your intent to break the law "So in exchange for $200 dollars, I want to have oral and full intercourse. " "Sure honey, me let freshen up in bathroom real quick" * CUE THE VICE SQUAD. Also when you have to start haggling back and forth, it feels like it can kill the mood for both parties, she won't be all in it if she felt she was lowballed, I might not be all into it if I felt I was ripped off.

But now I live in OC, after researching usasexguide, the only place that appeared 100% certain that all the girls offered FS with standard pricing was the asian massage place called Right Spa. ..........the night was still not over for my first attempt at FS at an AMP. I ended up at Right Spa later that night, which I had an awesome foursome for 400 (50 house, 120 x3 girls) I forked over the 410, no mention on what services were to be provided and they automatically proceeded DFK / BBBJ / DATY / CFS x3, with each girl playfully fighting over my cock that it was "their turn".

I'm really curious to try the other places mentioned on the other OC boards, like Korg BBFS, private delights, humaniplex, enclaves? But none of those places seemed like 100% certain options either.[/QUOTE]Looking for 100% sure thing? Well, Right is no longer, but seems to established itself as Garden Spa. It is 100%. A number of other parlors are 100% as well, just watch the forum, they are mentioned frequently.

KORGS BBFS or not, it is a 100% deal. You get a boner and don't pop too early, you will fuck. Private Delights, seems a bit more YMMV, Humaniplex with a higher level lady that normally fucks, you will fuck. I can't think of a level 2 or higher asian establishment that doesn't 100% fuck.

Plenty of 100% fucking options.

Humaniplex can be a little more difficult to get established. You may need to take a couple for the team, whether than means starting with an older lady or GILF or starting with a Fatty.

[QUOTE=OcAmper;7229432]Looking for 100% sure thing? Well, Right is no longer, but seems to established itself as Garden Spa. It is 100%. A number of other parlors are 100% as well, just watch the forum, they are mentioned frequently.

KORGS BBFS or not, it is a 100% deal. You get a boner and don't pop too early, you will fuck. Private Delights, seems a bit more YMMV, Humaniplex with a higher level lady that normally fucks, you will fuck. I can't think of a level 2 or higher asian establishment that doesn't 100% fuck.

Plenty of 100% fucking options.

Humaniplex can be a little more difficult to get established. You may need to take a couple for the team, whether than means starting with an older lady or GILF or starting with a Fatty.[/QUOTE]Yep I have discovered Garden Spa, they are so busy they just opened a 2nd location Du Calme. Also I had to ping around several different KORGS on HX, before I found 1 willing to give me a chance with no HX history / credibility. But once I got into 1 KORG, I was able to leverage that to get into a couple more, but still getting cold shoulder on some KORGS. PD seems too good to be true with the all positive reviews for every provider, making it impossible to really find who's real and who's fake. On the City of Industry board, for those who like strip club experience, there seems to be some mentions of for sure clubs / dancers.

Went saw leeann. I didn't partake but she offers certain extras. Not sure how far they go. I just had a quick VIP dance. Tall, glasses, natural.