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[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7657165]Think it's great that both you and Sanctimonious6 are holding your age so well. Still, it must be difficult when your needs are still there but aren't being met. It seems like, for a lot of guys, the alternatives end up being escorts, MPs, or strip clubs. The more I read and talk to people, the more I'm getting the impression that this is actually a pretty common situation.
My question is: Do your wives know about your hobby, or do you keep it hidden?
From my past experiences in relationships, women generally aren't too fond of their men putting their stuff in other women.
I had a friend whose sex drive was much higher than his wife's. She understood that, so she gave him permission to see other women. The only condition was that she didn't want to know about it or have it flaunted in front of her. It seemed to work well for them, and they had a great marriage.
As for me, I've never been married. At one point, I thought it might happen, but it just didn't work out for several reasons. One of my biggest fears about getting married has always been that, over time, the relationship would deteriorate - possibly to the point where she'd end up hating me.
To me, an even worse situation would be being in a sexless marriage like the ones you guys have described, and I'm genuinely sorry that you have to go through that.[/QUOTE]I1234,
No one, save one trusted female friend, knows of my extracurricular activities other than my partners. Wife would never agree to my seeking physical pleasure elsewhere, even while denying it to me.
However, I do not wish I were single. Married life has many advantages. But, yes, a sexless marriage is a major shortcoming.
I have addressed this by pursuing this ridiculous hobby, and I believe it has preserved my marriage, because it has prevented me from becoming romantically entangled in any serious affairs. I had two of those with married women before entering the hobby — one was an ex-gf, one was a coworker — both of those affairs ended when each of them got pregnant, and I was fortunate that I was not the father.
This ridiculous hobby has kept me sane while providing an outlet for me to blow off steam, safely and discreetly.
And also allowed me to check off some fucket-list items — experiences that my vanilla friends and coworkers and family have never even dared to imagine. While it may seem common that unfulfilled married men seek other women to meet their needs, I think it's still more common for those men to suffer and do nothing to help themselves. I decided to actively pursue the hobby at age sixty when I realized I could very well grow too old to experience sex again if I waited any longer.
So here I am, enjoying life in my sixties, with a mix of favorite UTR's and reliable club girls to keep me happy. I never got laid so much when I was single; never.
Good luck to all.
WK.
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Just throwing in my 2 cents. Bravo Incognito!! I would say to write whatever you feel like writing in the moment. Be it long or short. I don't partake in the strip club scene often, but I always enjoy reading your posts. They are very informative, and give a great feel to the scene. Thanks and keep it up!
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7655905]I don't have much of a review today, and I'm not sure whether you all prefer the shorter reviews or the longer ones?
So, I ventured out for day shift today, thinking I'd do the circuit of Henry's, Bogart's, and the SC. My backup plan was that if nothing worked out at any of those, I'd head over to Guam Massage on Eureka in Southgate.
Last week, I went to Guam and had an enjoyable experience. It's earned a spot on my repeat list, and if anyone is interested, I'd be happy to post a review in the massage forum as well.
My primary goal was to see that smoke show of a Latina that I'm so fond of - otherwise known as Selena. Even though I was hoping she'd be there, my expectations were low since I hadn't received a text from her last night or today.
When I got to Henry's, I noticed how dead it was. For the last three weeks, it's been dead on the day shift, although there were eight or nine dancers working. Well, no Selena, no Yesna, and no Sunflower. Fortunately, I got a pleasant surprise: Arabella is back.
For those of you who haven't met Arabella, she's a friendly, attractive, thin AA dancer with small breasts, a long torso, and a very nice little ass. I've been to the back with her a number of times before.
When I first saw her, she was sitting at the bar talking to someone. About twenty minutes later, after she'd finished her conversation, she came over and sat down.
It's been a while since I'd seen her, and she told me she'd been working at a dispensary but had parted ways with them and started dancing again. We didn't talk long before agreeing to head to the back.
Arabella doesn't give head, and that's perfectly fine with me. We started with CG, and then she turned around into doggie style. I absolutely love the view, and while she doesn't do anal, she enjoys finger and thumb play there. She doesn't rush, has great technique, and it wasn't long before I popped. I'll definitely see her again in the future, and of course, I recommend seeing her.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jd2011;7657891]Just throwing in my 2 cents. Bravo Incognito!! I would say to write whatever you feel like writing in the moment. Be it long or short. I don't partake in the strip club scene often, but I always enjoy reading your posts. They are very informative, and give a great feel to the scene. Thanks and keep it up![/QUOTE]That's incredibly kind of you to say. Comments like yours really do make the time spent writing these reviews feel worthwhile. As long as people continue to enjoy reading them, I'll be happy to keep writing them.
I've actually been thinking about branching out to a few more clubs, like Subi's or maybe Dream Girls. I know I'm always whining about the valet parking situation, but I thought someone mentioned that Subi's doesn't require valet on certain days. For whatever reason, I just don't like parking across the street and walking over. It's also a little more awkward walking into a club where nobody knows you. Understandably, the staff and dancers are probably a bit more wary of someone they've never seen before, wondering if I might be LEO. If you saw me in person, though, the idea of me being LEO would be pretty laughable.
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[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;7657186]In my case, my wife does not know that I pay for sex. Because she is an understanding and compassionate person, she has given me permission to have a FWB. The problem is that it's hard to find an age-appropriate woman who I find attractive enough. I'm spoiled. I was pretty cute when I was younger, and I played (and still play) in rock bands, so it wasn't hard to find hot women to play with. While I look pretty good for my age, I'm not as cute or fit as I was back then, and I'm not super wealthy, so young hotties aren't exactly lining up to boink me. I have enough game that finding a middle-aged, average-looking lover wouldn't be too difficult, but it would be very depressing to be sleeping with somebody whom I was less attracted to than to my own wife. I continue to look for a satisfying FWB situation, but have not yet been successful. If I had loads of money, I would go the SB route, but that's not financially feasible for me.[/QUOTE]
If she's given you permission, it doesn't sound like you're in a bad situation. It seems like it would be much harder to pursue this hobby of ours if you had your accounts combined and she monitored the cash flow. I completely understand where you're coming from when it comes to finding attractive, age-appropriate women. It's much rarer to find someone in her 50's or older who's both attractive and interested in a married FWB. Keep trying. In the meantime, you can still enjoy penis probing the younger, more attractive women.
You still play in a rock band? And here I was picturing you performing "Gangsta's Paradise" and Tupac's greatest hits.
I'm completely on board with getting a SB. It would be great to have enough pesos to go that route. I've already decided that if I ever hit the lottery, I'm buying a purple velvet overcoat and a large diamond pimp ring. Gotta look the part, you know.
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[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7657696]I1234,
No one, save one trusted female friend, knows of my extracurricular activities other than my partners. Wife would never agree to my seeking physical pleasure elsewhere, even while denying it to me.
However, I do not wish I were single. Married life has many advantages. But, yes, a sexless marriage is a major shortcoming.
I have addressed this by pursuing this ridiculous hobby, and I believe it has preserved my marriage, because it has prevented me from becoming romantically entangled in any serious affairs. I had two of those with married women before entering the hobby one was an ex-gf, one was a coworker both of those affairs ended when each of them got pregnant, and I was fortunate that I was not the father.
This ridiculous hobby has kept me sane while providing an outlet for me to blow off steam, safely and discreetly.
And also allowed me to check off some fucket-list items experiences that my vanilla friends and coworkers and family have never even dared to imagine. While it may seem common that unfulfilled married men seek other women to meet their needs, I think it's still more common for those men to suffer and do nothing to help themselves. I decided to actively pursue the hobby at age sixty when I realized I could very well grow too old to experience sex again if I waited any longer.
So here I am, enjoying life in my sixties, with a mix of favorite UTR's and reliable club girls to keep me happy. I never got laid so much when I was single; never.
Good luck to all.
WK.[/QUOTE]That has to be very difficult to handle. Not having permission to have your needs taken care of elsewhere while also being denied at home. It seems like that would create a lot of resentment. How do you think your wife would react if she found out? It sounds like you'd certainly have a good case for being in the hobby.
Having affairs where both women got pregnant must have been a real nail-biter. Talk about dodging two bullets!
On the plus side, if you're checking off fucket-list items and getting your needs satisfied, it sounds like you're doing okay.
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[QUOTE=Sixsixths;7657644]My wife has no clue, though she is open to us having a somewhat open relationship, or at least a relationship with a third (woman) involved. I think as things progress, we very well may end up paying for escorts for us to share.
However, me going off and having fun on my own is still very much a secret. It's an easy secret to keep, as she's too trusting and I have the ability to do so when I'm doing "work-related travels". As I get older (I'm almost 40), I am finding myself more and more secluded from the young women who are my ideal sexual partners, so escorts / clubs / parlors are my only outlet. I do not have the game in me to find partners outside of that (call me awkward I guess), other than through some fetish sites / forums that allow me some more unique experiences, but in actuality I simply want a FWB or consistent partnership that doesn't necessarily involve whips / spanking / fisting / etc as a primary aspect.[/QUOTE]Oh, come on now. What's a little fisting among friends?
It sounds like you've already got a pretty good thing going with your wife, since she's open to threesomes and possibly even paying for escorts to share!
Under 40? You're still young. IMO, it seems like it'd be much easier for you to find a younger, more attractive FWB than it would be for many of us. While you're searching for that, though, this is a great hobby to fall back on!
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[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7658084]Oh, come on now. What's a little fisting among friends?
It sounds like you've already got a pretty good thing going with your wife, since she's open to threesomes and possibly even paying for escorts to share!
Under 40? You're still young. IMO, it seems like it'd be much easier for you to find a younger, more attractive FWB than it would be for many of us. While you're searching for that, though, this is a great hobby to fall back on![/QUOTE]This hobby provides me with more great sex than all my married friends and co-workers are getting.
And I don't gamble or do drugs so I am fortunate that one expensive hobby is still doable now and then
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You absolutely get more
[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7657696]I1234,
No one, save one trusted female friend, knows of my extracurricular activities other than my partners. Wife would never agree to my seeking physical pleasure elsewhere, even while denying it to me.
However, I do not wish I were single. Married life has many advantages. But, yes, a sexless marriage is a major shortcoming.
I have addressed this by pursuing this ridiculous hobby, and I believe it has preserved my marriage, because it has prevented me from becoming romantically entangled in any serious affairs. I had two of those with married women before entering the hobby one was an ex-gf, one was a coworker both of those affairs ended when each of them got pregnant, and I was fortunate that I was not the father.
This ridiculous hobby has kept me sane while providing an outlet for me to blow off steam, safely and discreetly.
And also allowed me to check off some fucket-list items experiences that my vanilla friends and coworkers and family have never even dared to imagine. While it may seem common that unfulfilled married men seek other women to meet their needs, I think it's still more common for those men to suffer and do nothing to help themselves. I decided to actively pursue the hobby at age sixty when I realized I could very well grow too old to experience sex again if I waited any longer.
So here I am, enjoying life in my sixties, with a mix of favorite UTR's and reliable club girls to keep me happy. I never got laid so much when I was single; never.
Good luck to all.
WK.[/QUOTE]Brother, I am single and do not struggle with dating. Offering someone a fist full of 20's will always get you laid more frequently and offer more variety than any other strategy I know of. I wish more men could experience the dark side before getting married, just so they know that options are out there and they don't get trapped in the sex as leverage game. I am glad you found some solace though.
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To Incognito
Your posts are the best. They would only be to long if they lacked substance. They always make me laugh. Don't shorten the stories.
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My 2 cents
I'm happily married. I'm also from Ohio so it's highly unlikely I'd see anyone I know at one of the clubs. This is big for me.
I visit for the inconspicuous fun. Pop in the club, have a decent conversation with an attractive younger woman is a risk free adventure. I've never fucked a stripper for fear of bringing something home. So if I find the right girl when I visit the clubs and have a little fun feels harmless to me. I'd never want to ruin my home life. Of late, my wife has lost interest in sex. I guess it's the length of time we've been together and us both getting older. She's still a stunning woman for her age (late 50's) and I'd prefer to get back to a more robust sex life. Maybe that ship has sailed and yes, we've discussed. She would not be very understanding if I were to get caught up in something. To me, it's almost a free pass. Just proceeding with caution. No AMP or escorts for me.
Thanks to all you mongers sharing the stories. We only live once.
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[QUOTE=Ohitsmr248;7658492]Brother, I am single and do not struggle with dating. Offering someone a fist full of 20's will always get you laid more frequently and offer more variety than any other strategy I know of. I wish more men could experience the dark side before getting married, just so they know that options are out there and they don't get trapped in the sex as leverage game. I am glad you found some solace though.[/QUOTE]If I were single, I'd be out of country having more sex mongering outside US is way better.
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[QUOTE=Tbird11955;7658698]I'm happily married. I'm also from Ohio so it's highly unlikely I'd see anyone I know at one of the clubs. This is big for me.
I visit for the inconspicuous fun. Pop in the club, have a decent conversation with an attractive younger woman is a risk free adventure. I've never fucked a stripper for fear of bringing something home. So if I find the right girl when I visit the clubs and have a little fun feels harmless to me. I'd never want to ruin my home life. Of late, my wife has lost interest in sex. I guess it's the length of time we've been together and us both getting older. She's still a stunning woman for her age (late 50's) and I'd prefer to get back to a more robust sex life. Maybe that ship has sailed and yes, we've discussed. She would not be very understanding if I were to get caught up in something. To me, it's almost a free pass. Just proceeding with caution. No AMP or escorts for me.
Thanks to all you mongers sharing the stories. We only live once.[/QUOTE]Now Do you pay dancers to Talk to you? How much do you spend if you sit with them for let's say 3 hours?
I've seen some gentleman who just sit and chat the whole time, like hats off to you, I can't stand talking to most of them.
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[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7658070]That has to be very difficult to handle. Not having permission to have your needs taken care of elsewhere while also being denied at home. It seems like that would create a lot of resentment. How do you think your wife would react if she found out? It sounds like you'd certainly have a good case for being in the hobby.
Having affairs where both women got pregnant must have been a real nail-biter. Talk about dodging two bullets!
On the plus side, if you're checking off fucket-list items and getting your needs satisfied, it sounds like you're doing okay.[/QUOTE]I1234,
Thank you for your reply! Yes, it was difficult to handle for many years; and yes, it created a lot of resentment in me. Eventually, I learned to change my attitude and accepted my wife's limitations, and instead renewed and redoubled my attentions to her, to show that have not lost my interest in her. Even though there is no chance of us having sex again, I treat her as playfully as I treat my actual sex partners, and my wife is happier, and I am no longer resentful.
You might be surprised by how willing are the women in this industry are to offer advice on how to fix your problems at home and interest your wife in sex again.
The affairs with the married women ended with their pregnancy, but the friendship did not end. Those relationships continued for a long time, in which our conversations changed to bragging about our kids, LOL.
Yes, I am doing okay with hack guy needs satisfied by much younger women, and having fuckit list items fulfilled that would never happen with my wife is even more exciting.
WK.
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Re: This hobby
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;7658126]This hobby provides me with more great sex than all my married friends and co-workers are getting.
And I don't gamble or do drugs so I am fortunate that one expensive hobby is still doable now and then[/QUOTE]JOC,
Agreed! But how do you know about the sex lives of your married friends and coworkers?
Agreed on the lack of vices. Especially when a dancer asks me what I am drinking, I like to tell her I don't drink, smoke, vape or gamble; Emmy only Vice is her!
WK.
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[QUOTE=Ohitsmr248;7658492]Brother, I am single and do not struggle with dating. Offering someone a fist full of 20's will always get you laid more frequently and offer more variety than any other strategy I know of. I wish more men could experience the dark side before getting married, just so they know that options are out there and they don't get trapped in the sex as leverage game. I am glad you found some solace though.[/QUOTE]O248,
I didn't have a fistful of $20's when I was younger, LOL. So, yes, now that I do, I am taking every opportunity Infsn to experience it now, because tomorrow is not a given.
WK.