Ruby (and Sophia) at Orange Spa
Not a lot reported on here lately about [B]Orange Spa[/B] (nor Yoshiko, Venus, Crystal, with just a bit more on Kim's), but Orange is one of those AMP's that has a "membership" plan where they waive the House Fee [U]AFTER[/U] your 10th visit ([U]ON[/U] your 11th visit), and I've already got 8 in the bank, so I decided to make one more deposit to nudge a bit closer to that modest incentive. Now I'm up to NINE!
I was offered either Sophia or Ruby and, since I saw Sophia the last time I was there (way back at end of March), and I found that experience not worth repeating (read all about it here: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3678-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=2855730#post2855730[/URL]), I decided to take Ruby for a spin. While I was dreaming, it turns out that Ruby was less inspiring than Sophia had been, but at least now I know!
Ruby is cute enough in the face, but not drop-dead-gorgeous like some of my faves at other places, but she's nice and tall and slim hipped and has a great figure with quite large and full naturals (where bolt-ons are more common, it seems). The part that was lacking in the experience was any enthusiasm on her part at all. The TS was thorough enough, but almost zero teasing and more like it was being done to actually get me clean with no other benefit whatsoever. The massage was attempted, but not really very skilled and there was no teasing of the boys while I was still "face down. " All this led to the flip coming, after I fell into a dream, while I was still a 3" flacid noodle. After a very short period of nipple-dragging, she stretched and applied a cover to what was still not a fully attentive soldier, then less than a minute of CBJ and a move to rcg, then cg, then mish, all the while limiting my attempts at holding, squeezing, tasting those fabulous-fun-bags (which was very disappointing). When I asked for 69, she wrinkled her nose and said "Oh, I don't like that" but reluctantly assumed the position anyway, however, she did so in such a way that I could BARELY reach the tasty parts (which was very disappointing). I did achieve a satisfactory finish, followed by the warm towel clean-up, etc. , but the whole session just left me a bit frustrated that I didn't get to enjoy all the playthings as much as I would have liked.
Actually, of my now NINE visits to Orange Spa, this was very typical of the enthusiasm level and limited toy access on FIVE of those visits. Of the two girls I've seen from there (two times each) that were dynamite experiences, and well worth repeating, one has more recently shown up at Venus Spa (named "Tiny" at Orange and "Tiffany" at Venus), although I have no idea if Orange and Venus are run by the same outfit, but my experiences at Venus have been better than Orange. The other, a girl named "Sky" at Orange, simply hasn't reappeared there at any time I've called to ask.
I will be going back to Orange at least two more times, if for no other reason than to redeem the "Waived House Fee", but once I cash that in, I can't say that this place would be high on my rotation list, as ALL of my experiences at Kim's have been stellar, and Venus, Yoshiko, and Crystal measure up a bit better as well.
Gunn "On Vacation" Until November
Stopped by Gunn location yesterday and saw note on the door that read "On Vacation, will open in November. " So I headed over to Spring on Sheldon and had an exceptional session with Angela. No FS on the menu but will make you happy before you leave. Nice looking MILF, sort of the quiet type with natural C-D's and allows some roaming. I will return. If for no other reason, does not ask how much your going to tip and possibly with more visits, there might be more on the menu. Who knows?
[QUOTE=TTY954;3094986]Last I heard, new owner changed the rules to just a jack-shack, that is why everybody bailed. If anybody knows any different, please let us know. After SPRING shut down, this is the closest one to me.[/QUOTE]
A few of the girls reviewed here are now web famous
Found a few of the lovely young ladies who have been discussed and reviewed this year on a website.
Many of you monger might recognize them, an independent and a girl from The Ritz.
They have been laying low for a few weeks it seems. This site may be why.
Not sure if the admin will allow this but I've seen info on one of them posted on this forum here before.
[URL]http://www.realgirlsexxxposed.com[/URL]
Crystal Spa: Joann (and Diana) - add'l deets.
[QUOTE=IraSwing;3100317]... Are both ladies in their 20's or 30's? The usual damage?[/QUOTE]Crap! I hate it when I do that. . . Leave out information under the thoughtless assumption that everybody must already KNOW cost or age because it's been discussed a lot lately. Doing that, for which I profusely apologize and hang both my big and little heads in utter shame, neglects to recognize that there will be readers of this thread who are browsing, or trying to research from out of town for an upcoming visit, or just simply not be as well versed as those of us (like me) with nothing better to do than scour this thread five times a day! LOL!
[B]Ages[/B]: I would put Joann around 22 to 25, and Diana maybe about the same. As always, it's hard to tell ages of Asian girls since they show it so much differently than western women.
[B]Investment[/B]: House Fee is. 8 for the hour (and, I'm guessing, it would be. 6 for a half hour). For tipping, I just laid out the $. 6 for Diana as soon as we returned to the room from the table shower (months ago when I saw her) and she took it without question. I did the same with Joann today, and she said exactly this: "[RED]So. . . this is what you gave last time? . . . for everything?[/RED]" I may be wrong, but I sort of interpreted her tone to indicate that she would really like MORE, but will accept an amount that a client has already established as "acceptable" from prior visits. If my stretch of interpretation is even close to accurate, this would be an example of why I recommend [B][u]NEVER[/u][/B] asking "how much" they WANT for "everything", or even letting the session get to the point of her ASKING "what you want", after which she's open to set her starting rate higher than standard. If the mistake is made (in my opinion) of the session being permitted to get to the flip without establishing the desired service level and corresponding rate, and the attendant DOES get the chance to ask "What you want", then the best response is something like "I brought $. 6 for everything. " This permits the client to establish that starting point FIRST. When doing this at THIS price-point in THIS market, I'm personally confident that it's a perfectly reasonable price and I'm not about to budge higher. If she ASKS for more, I would simply say "I don't have any more, because that's the amount I pay every time", or "everywhere else".
I hope I didn't forget anything else! Thanks for prompting me to fill in those egregiously left open blanks!
Crystal Spa- The Good and the Bad
Went and saw Diana. House fee was. 80 and she initially wanted $$, just for her, for a total fee of $$. 80 She looks nice probably a solid 8 but not $$80 worth. She is a very skilled masseuse and gave the best technical massage I have had in a long time. I will go back but beware she wants top dollar for her attention. I gave her a tip of $.60 and everything was ok after that, she made me feel like a cheapskate not giving her a $$ tip.
How has service been at Yoshiko?
I should have posted this long ago. In January I visited Yoshiko and was disappointed. Table shower was fine. Uninspired massage lasted about 5 minutes before the girl left the room. When she returned she had her iPad. For the next 10-15 minutes she simply sat on my hamstrings typing away on her iPad, presumably chatting with her friends. The main event was also uninspired.
That was my 2nd time at Yoshiko where something similar happened. After that I haven't returned.
I never remember the girls' names unless they are first rate performers (Like Momo, Ivy, and Yumi at Kim's).
Tip Tracking In General & Yoshiko
[QUOTE=Horsetrader;3104366]I wonder if they keep records of how much we tip. It would be very easy since we all give our ID numbers each time we arrive.[/QUOTE][B]YES[/B], they very definitely DO keep track of what you paid on each visit at Orange Spa, and the other AMPs that employ a Membership system (Kim's, Venus, and Pine Tree in Pinellas, that I know of). It's just a part of their "[I]Big Data Analytics[/I]" LOL! They keep track of a whole lot more too: at a minimum, the date of your visits, the girl you see on each visit, the tip you paid, and some brief notes on services you received (to know your preferences, etc.). Several girls at Orange, and other AMP's with "memberships", have confirmed all that to me, once I got to know them a bit better.
[QUOTE=Horsetrader;3104376]... In January I visited Yoshiko and was disappointed. Table shower was fine. Uninspired massage lasted about 5 minutes before the girl left the room. When she returned she had her iPad. For the next 10-15 minutes she simply sat on my hamstrings typing away on her iPad, presumably chatting with her friends. The main event was also uninspired.
That was my 2nd time at Yoshiko where something similar happened. After that I haven't returned.
I never remember the girls' names unless they are first rate performers (Like Momo, Ivy, and Yumi at Kim's).[/QUOTE]
I've been to Yoshiko 4 times, having seen 3 girls in that span (Connie twice, Tiffany, and Lucky), but those visits were all between September and November of last year. All visits were splendid with regard to beauty of girls and quality of services. If I recall, TS's were just ok, and 2 of the girls didn't even attempt massage, but that was fine with me at the time... the main events were outstanding. There are two reasons I haven't been back: one is that I can't tear myself away from Kim's, or trying some of the other places in the area, and the second reason is that, on my last visit, Lucky was one of those that was pretty bluntly demanding $$. She accepted the $.6 I brought (as I did on my prior three visits... just check my membership card! LOL!), but she told me outright that "Next time you bring $$", to which I said, "Yes, ok, I will" . . . while actually never intending to see HER again anayway just for that reason. Lucky was one of the most stunningly beautiful and perfectly formed young Korean girls I've met with, which is why, I suppose, she felt entitled to a $$ tip. I think my $.6 might have contributed to her rather perfunctory effort (no passion, limited interest) but she was still quite memorable just for her looks and feel.
Regarding your visit, it MAY just be a matter of your luck of the draw and getting a poor performer, but since that was the second time you were disappointed there, I may re-think my plans to visit Yoshiko on my next visit to the area. I've been meaning to get back there, especially if I could confirm (by phone ahead of time) if Connie were working (but she's probably one who is long gone permanently). Since Yoshiko doesn't have a membership system, there's no record of my past tipping amounts, and I really don't want the hassle of haggling with them. I haven't had to do so YET, but my plan has always been to do EXACTLY what you described that you did. . . when she asks for more, I plan to look quizzically at her, as though I had already given what she asked, then get it back to count it in front of her, THEN to put it back in my pocket and walk out (I wouldn't even stay for the massage)! The one thing that would screw up that master plan is if the girl walks the $.6 out of the room after I lay it out following the Table Shower, then proceeds with some sort of massage, and THEN demands "more." At that point, the only defense is the innocent "Gee, that's all I brought with me" and hope she goes for it.
HJ's at the high-end AMP's on Kennedy
[QUOTE=IraSwing;3108598]Fellow hunters, I've had some so-so experience with FS at K-shops in the area, venus, kim, and crystal etc. Either the provider is not my type or service was not great. They tend to show you the good ones AFTER your visit! I was wondering if anybody has quoted or received of HJ instead. My guess would be around $ but any intel. About getting HJ only would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Personally, I wouldn't recommend it. There was some discussion on this thread several months ago about this, and (without actually digging up the deets from the thread) I [B]think[/B] I recall guys saying they were quoted HJ prices even higher than $. I may be confusing the "higher than $" rate with the BJ, but in any case, since a standard HJ HE runs. 4 at most any normal rub-and-tug shop, the net message is that the rate is [U]WAY[/U] higher than reasonable.
Popular theory (mine at least. . . shared by some others) has been that these gorgeous young hot Korean babes are perfectly willing to provide FS and, if you're going to take up their hour or half hour, they really want the MOST money for their time (in other words, FS). By setting a ridiculously high rate for just a HJ or even BJ, that popular theory suggests that their motivation is to convince a client to just go ahead and spend a little bit more cash for a LOT more service (FS) so they maximize their earnings per hour, so to speak. This concept is akin to the plumber, or carpenter, or {name your contractor} who really doesn't want to pittle his time on YOUR measly job. . . But he'll sure take on that job if you're willing to pay an outrageous amount for the work (who hasn't run into THAT guy)!
That's my 2¢
This Post Should've Been on the Pasco Board
[QUOTE=Mute16;3108362]Had a dream that I visited this parlor. Greeted by what I hoped was mamma son. No so lucky. The TS was so so. She did not want to wash all the required parts until I placed her hand on those parts. Things go a bit lighter. A lackluster soft touch massage and an uninspired HJ completed the dream. Standard house of around. 6 and. 4 tip. Out the door.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-girls-asian-massage-grand-opening-4-hands/20037068[/URL][/QUOTE]There have been a few reports on the place you posted, in the Pasco section, which would have alerted you. Being as though you're looking in this section for that area, I would highly recommend the Coco, Mia, Nina place on Hwy 54 a few miles west, than the location you posted (near Hwy 41 and SR 54), located at the Elfers Shopping Center at the corner of Madison and SR 54 (Winn Dixie is in this shopping center). Much has been written about this place on the Pasco Board and I concur with the rest of the gentlemen. You won't be disappointed. Here's the link I'm talking about.
[URL]http://tampa.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/must-try-we-have-new-beautiful-massagist-just-arrived-call-us-at-727-519-5116/19504966[/URL]
Kennedy Blvd. The "other" places??
Much has been written / shared about the more well worn AMP's along Kennedy Blvd in Tampa (Kim's, Orange, Crystal, Yoshiko, even Venus a few blocks north, and a bit about Magic Spa), but I'm still curious to know if ANYBODY has anything to report about the other places along this stretch of road, for which there is almost zero discussion! Specifically: Does anyone have any experience, or even any gossip to report, about the following:
[B]Japanese Spa[/B] at 4001 W. Kennedy Blvd.
[B]Oxygen Spa[/B] at 3430 W. Kennedy Blvd.
[B]Bamboo Spa[/B] at 3935 W. Kennedy Blvd (some ancient reports speak of older ladies and $. 2 FS).
[B]Seven Star Spa[/B] at 4006 W. Kenendy Blvd.
[B]Lucky Day Spa[/B] at 4317 W. Kennedy Blvd.
And while I'm asking, I'd also be interested in any fresh info on [B]Magic Spa[/B] at 4553 W. Kennedy Blvd. Older reports / discussion suggested ladies at this place were consistently demanding $$ for tips, but perhaps a "slowdown" in traffic (due to that news rising from here) have brought them to their $. 6 senses.
Royal On North Dale Mabry Closed for Remodeling Until November
Wanted to cash in on my free visit after five, today. Called, no one answered. Was down that way on business, so I drove in, parked in the back, front door was locked. Went around back, knocked on the door, Mamasan answers to tell me to come back in a few weeks. Doing some remodeling. Would like to see Yumi again.
Royal On North Dale Mabry Closed for Remodeling Until November
[QUOTE=FlipOver;3111306]Wanted to cash in on my free visit after five, today. Called, no one answered. Was down that way on business, so I drove in, parked in the back, front door was locked. Went around back, knocked on the door, Mamasan answers to tell me to come back in a few weeks. Doing some remodeling. Would like to see Yumi again.[/QUOTE]Curious! I was in that area 2 or 3 weeks ago and also wanted to see Yumi (never been there before, but reports here drove the motivation). I had called way back in July to see if Yumi was working and was told she would be returning in September, however, when I got in the area 2-3 weeks ago I called and also got no answer. . . Repeatedly, over the course of 30-45 minutes. That seemed a bit odd, and by that time I had actually driven all the way there, so I also drove around back to see what I could see (as noted, I had never been there before). I saw no cars parked in the Royal Spa designated spaces (many cars (and people) around the separate business located out back. . . That kinda spooked me), but I didn't actually park and get out to try the doors.
I also didn't see any evidence of "remodeling" going on, like workers, materials, etc. , so I'm wondering if there's some other reason for the temporary closure, like maybe they don't actually have any girls available for a while, or some other issue. Curious!
Also. . . from the [b]GOOD TO KNOW!![/b] Department. . . it IS [i]Good To Know[/i] that this place waives the House Fee AFTER 5 visits! (I'm assuming that means ON your 6th visit). That's twice as good as AFTER 10 visits at Orange Spa (and probably others) down on Kennedy Blvd.
