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One thing I know about strip clubs is that they can be real pricey, but the 2 xs I went, I never asked for FS and didn't know it could happen like that. I was green then, but now I know. But which ones has the best FS for the best $ ranges? Not looking for overpay. Is Players, Colliseum good in that regard? Something tells me Penthouse is most likely pricey based on it's high-tech interior alone.
I'll make this one short. I hit Hanks again Friday night. Pretty much the same line up as last week except that Vaida was gone. The very hot, long brown haired dancer from last week was there. Her name's Sarah. She looks great and has an even better body. But she's lamer than a horse with a busted leg. And she doesn't do extras. Wouldn't even let me so much as pet the kitty. And then wanted a tip because "I'm pretty". Oh, puleeze! Avoid her.
TOFTT.
[QUOTE=MrOdessa;2212733]One thing I know about strip clubs is that they can be real pricey, but the 2 xs I went, I never asked for FS and didn't know it could happen like that. I was green then, but now I know. But which ones has the best FS for the best $ ranges? Not looking for overpay. Is Players, Colliseum good in that regard? Something tells me Penthouse is most likely pricey based on it's high-tech interior alone.[/QUOTE]It's really all about your taste, timing and selection. Colliseum is probably a great choice. There typically is a good selection of talent and you usuaully will find what you want.
[QUOTE=MrOdessa;2207766]Is Players diverse? I know Colliseum is and that will be most likely my next Strip Club visit. Something tells me to skip Tycoon's, like I always avoid Trumpps and bypass Ace Of Spades, though something tells me Ace Of Spades can be hype at times.
Thanks for the heads up. I know where I'll be going next.[/QUOTE]Yes, Players has a pretty diverse line up of dancers.
[QUOTE=Action22;2212676]
I could do Plantation, I mean Panthieion sometime down the road (sorry, those white pillars, could be French Colonial, you know). Always been treated well in BSC's and AA strippers think it's their duty to see you leave, ummm, properly entertained.
Final stop was PH. Solid lineup, usual suspects. Didn't go upstairs. If you need a 1-5 rating, 3. 75.
[/QUOTE]You're kind of a dick dude. Your Inuendo's don't hide your racist remarks.
[QUOTE=Weezon;2213273]You're kind of a dick dude. Your Inuendo's don't hide your racist remarks.[/QUOTE]It's a joke. Lighten up. I love everybody. See'Mon. Did I not say I was planning to patronize the place in the future? You think I was going to show up in a white sheet or something.
If anyone was offended, I apologize.
Besides, I looooove the idea of a BSC in Dearborn of all places. Orville Hubbard must be doing cartwheels at warp speed in his grave.
[QUOTE=HornDogToo;2210166]
Recommendation. Go to the Criket on 2 fer Tuesday, enjoy the beers and burger. But make sure you point out the 2 fer sign on the table, and find out if she is an extras girl. There are some now, obviously. If that's what you are looking for, negotiate before hand, you're kind of a prisoner once behind the curtains.[/QUOTE]I never understood why people talk about eating at SCs. The two concepts seem in conflict with each other.
Also, not sure if I want to patronize an establishment that cannot spell the word "cricket" correctly, unless it's really some obscure French word and I should be pronouncing it "kree-kay" or something like that.
Bogie's last night? Meh. Miami almost got me to goi in the back, but both the sweat (she's a hard working gal) and the wig were deal killers. Allegedly excellent skills and a very full menu from a trusted source. 5'5", stripper MILF type bordering on hot stripper MILF type. I love the vibe and the girls there, just wish the optics were a shade better when I'm around.
Was horney so stopped in on a Friday at 1 pm Four dancers, two customers. Three were white. One with big DD's. Her name was Donna. Other two were 5 and 2 on scale and wanted two hundred. I chose Donna for 100. BJ, cowgirl and reverse did the trick for me. I loved sucking on those tits! All covered, which I did not mind. Place has been dead for months. Black peeler looked cute and seemed nice but did not get to talk to.
I first discovered BTs 3 years ago on a business trip to Detroit. I spend a few weeks in Detroit on business each year, and I would say average visiting the clubs about 10 nights a year. A typical night I would be in the club for between 3-5 hours, enjoy 2-4 VIP sessions and spend about $500 a night on all activities. I had never been hassled in the club and considered it my go to place for relaxation in Detroit.
All that changed on my August trip. On night one, I had already completed my first visit to the VIP and had just finished negotiating a second trip to the VIP which I planned to take after the girl did her stage set. I had been in the club a little more than 2 hours and I had already spent $49 dollars on drinks for myself and the dancers.
The waitress comes over and informs me the manager said I need to buy another drink.
I said really, please ask him to come over and talk to me directly. It takes him about 10 minutes to arrive. He is an older man with a full head of hair, 20% is gray, the rest is still black. He has a cell phone on his hip. He is noticeably smaller than most of the other bouncers. He tells me I have been drinking the same drink all night.
I say friend, I want to be sure you are aware that I bought two dancer drinks and including waitress tips I have spent $49 dollars on drinks. He says the policy is you have to buy a new drink every 30 minutes (this must be new policy as they never explained this on my prior 20 visits). I say ok, it is your club and you can run it anyway you want. If you tell me that I have to leave if I don't buy another drink, I know where the door is and I won't cause you any trouble. I will just get up and make my exit.
The girl who is sitting with me is looking at him anxiously like don't chase this guy away, he just said he would go to the VIP with me. He says let me talk to your waitress, and he calls her over and says how many drinks did this guy buy. She says 2. I remind her that she forgot a shot of Tequila and a red bull that cost $20. The waitress says yes he bought 4 drinks total. The manager says you are ok then, you can stay.
Now I understand, it is Saturday night and the club is full, they don't want some dude taking up a table and nursing a drink all night, I just think before you harass someone, you should be aware of how much money they have already spent. In addition to drinks I had been buying VIPs, and tipping the dancers on stage, I don't see many people stage tipping the dancers. As result of this conversation I don't buy any more dancers drinks the rest of the evening.
As I am leaving the club, I talk to the lady at the door, and I tell her I had a good time tonight but there was one thing that I didn't like. I said I spent $59 (I bought one more drink after my second VIP) on drinks but I was hassled a bit about not buying enough drinks. She asked was I by myself? I said yes. She asked who hassled me?, I said one of the managers.
I told her that each night I visit I spend between $400 – $600 on all services. I said when the manager harassed me I offered that I would leave and take my business elsewhere and he said that would not be necessary. I said I know I am not your best customer, but I think I am good customer, and I would rather not be hassled in this fashion. She apologized and said she was sorry for the treatment several times and that she would look into the issue. I had no idea if she will or not, but I figured the right thing to do was raise a complaint for inappropriate behavior. I don't like being pushed around.
A few nights later back at BTs.
My business trip was not over yet and I return a few nights later, I walk into BTs take my usual table and order a club soda. The club is a little less than half full. Before the waitress can even bring my drink one of the bouncers taps me on the shoulder and asks to talk to him at entry desk. I don't recognize him immediately as he has shaved his head since the prior night. But his body language is aggressive, leaning into me, and his eyes look angry. He says I want to be sure you are not going to have a problem buying drinks tonight. And it clicks for me this is the same guy who hassled me last time. I smile calmly and think I hope he got in trouble. And before I can answer him he says confrontationally that I had better buy at least 2 drinks. I calmly state that could be problem, and ask if he would like me to leave? He says yes he thinks I should leave and recommends I patronize another establishment. Now I have several thoughts running through my head, but I know logic is not going to prevail in this instance. If I try to argue, I believe I will likely to end up in some type of physical confrontation, which will be a foregone conclusion that I will be worse for the experience. This man's behavior appears purposely antagonistic hoping it will become physical so he can dish out some violence on me. I calmly state, Sir have a good night, I am sorry that I troubled you and slowly walk out the door.
The valet is surprised to see me and asks me to come back soon, but I say the manager just kicked me out so I don't think it is very likely.
I am good drink buyer, I frequently buy 3 drinks for myself and 3 peeler drinks so BTs is making good money off my drinks. If manager guy wants to cause a problem why pick on someone who buys drinks? I think the club is entitled to make some money, I just didn't like being harassed about it. Certainly if you come in buy a drink, hit the VIP and leave the manager wouldn't have a problem. Since I was hanging around to do multiple VIPs the problem occurred. You would think they would want to encourage people to hang out and spend more money instead of incentivizing them to leave after one VIP visit.
What the guy should have done is say, Sir, I am sorry I gave you hard time the other night, I didn't realize how many drinks you bought. Please enjoy yourself tonight. If he did that I would have stayed and spent $500 in his club, including drinks, VIP fees, stage tips and of course peeler services, of which the club takes a cut.
I have always liked BTs because it was fun, fantasy, no hassle kind of place. The biggest problem was possibly being short changed by a peeler, and I know how to handle that. Once the experience is no longer fun, then the reason return ceases to exist. Arguing with a manager over drinks is not fun.
I realize whether I go to BTs or not, makes no difference to this guy. The 10 times a year I walk through their door doesn't make or break their club. It is still a good club offering good services at a good value. I do know if you hassle enough of your repeat customers and drive them elsewhere, it will impact the club. This is a customer service business and it runs on repeat customers. Without enough customers the business will slowly decline.
Now I am not going to let one bad decision by one manager wipe out all the good times I had, but I will be a bit more cautious, and as he suggested I will take my business elsewhere to a place I don't get hassled. I have been meaning to try some other clubs for a while and this gave me the motivation to do it.
I would have spent another $1500 dollars at BTs on the 3 remaining nights I went out to clubs in Detroit. All this money is lost to BTs because I refused to buy a $10 drink at a manager's whim. I don't know any business that wouldn't spend $10 to make $1500, but that is what happened here.
When I left BTs I drove over to Bogarts the first night.
The second night I went to the Flight Club.
The third night I went to Players.
I enjoyed Flight Club and Players about as much as I usually enjoy BTs.
In Players I had returned from my first VIP session and a second dancer quickly joined me at my table. When the waitress came over I ordered a drink for the dancer and although my drink was only a quarter full I did not buy a second one for me. I was intending to buy a second one later in the evening.
Now to my shocking surprise 45 minutes later the waitress comes over with another club soda. I did not order this, but my drink had been empty for a while. So I say to her what do I owe you?, and she says nothing, it is on the house she just thought I looked thirsty. She does accept a $2 dollar tip. The irony of this is amazing. If BTs would have just not hassled me I would have been sitting in BTs and not even be in Players. The waitress can't know that I was hassled at BTs yet provided me a free drink. I realize I already bought a club soda and the cost of that to the club is only a few pennies and I spent $6 dollars on it, so they are not losing any money here. But the difference in attitude is tremendous. I think this waitress just guaranteed I will be returning to Players on my next trip to Detroit.
I don't know if anyone else has been hassled like me in BTs. Perhaps it was fluke thing the manager did, although I sensed he has done this before. I would certainly encourage anyone who is a paying customer to not allow themselves to be treated this way.
I do intend to go back to BTs on a future trip to Detroit as I have had many enjoyable nights in their club, but if I am still not welcome, I won't hesitate get up and leave again. I would encourage any else who has this experience to do the same.
There is simply no reason to put up with this kind of treatment, or any form of manager harrassment.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2215328]I first discovered BTs 3 years ago on a business trip to Detroit. I spend a few weeks in Detroit on business each year, and I would say average visiting the clubs about 10 nights a year. A typical night I would be in the club for between 3-5 hours, enjoy 2-4 VIP sessions and spend about $500 a night on all activities. I had never been hassled in the club and considered it my go to place for relaxation in Detroit.
There is simply no reason to put up with this kind of treatment, or any form of manager harrassment.[/QUOTE]I have previously described your basic FC / PH bouncer as a wannabe pimp who was born 30 years too late for MMA. (Coli, the guys are pretty cool, I'm sorry Alan bought the club LOL).
The BT's manager is a stone idiot. I'd ask for the GM's name and discuss it with him. I would think he would be receptive to your concerns.
Basically, the guy isn't making any money and he's taking whatever personal frustrations out on you. It's chickenshit to confront you because (suitcase) Daddy's not getting his $.
In Detroit, you may need to tip a bouncer $20 for certain tables, and there's some minimum expected after that. I don't play that game. I do tip them on 8 Mile after a VIP session, because that's part of the deal with the girl. Since roughly 30% of the money you give the girl goes back to management in some form, you are probably a true VIP.
Once upon a time, I had the temerity during the day to park my rental on the street between the valet lot and the PH entrance. I got to hear about it from the bouncer with implied threats that next time, the car might no be there when I return to it. We're talking about $7.
Whether it's Detroit or Miami, I tend to stick to the same clubs. The girls generally move from club to club anyway when they think the guys are tired of looking at them and they're not making $. I think the 4-5 clubs I go to when in town is a large enough sample LOL.
How is the mileage at hustlers? Last time I was there, I was interested in a few, but didn't know the ropes yet.
Sounds like it was the waitresses fault by not knowing how to count. Maybe she wanted you to leave. I dunno. That bar has been steadily going downhill over the last two years. I've had two friends quit there jobs there because of management.
The Management just doesn't know how to run a strip club. What makes it worse is there are people who go in the club and drink buckets after buckets of beer and then when their tab comes. They want to talk to the manager for a discount. AND HE GIVES THEM ONE.
I'll stick to FC. They don't hassle you for drinks or shots.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2215328]I first discovered BTs 3 years ago on a business trip to Detroit. I spend a few weeks in Detroit on business each year, and I would say average visiting the clubs about 10 nights a year. A typical night I would be in the club for between 3-5 hours, enjoy 2-4 VIP sessions and spend about $500 a night on all activities. I had never been hassled in the club and considered it my go to place for relaxation in Detroit.
All that changed on my August trip. On night one, I had already completed my first visit to the VIP and had just finished negotiating a second trip to the VIP which I planned to take after the girl did her stage set. I had been in the club a little more than 2 hours and I had already spent $49 dollars on drinks for myself and the dancers.
The waitress comes over and informs me the manager said I need to buy another drink.
I said really, please ask him to come over and talk to me directly. It takes him about 10 minutes to arrive. He is an older man with a full head of hair, 20% is gray, the rest is still black. He has a cell phone on his hip. He is noticeably smaller than most of the other bouncers. He tells me I have been drinking the same drink all night.
I say friend, I want to be sure you are aware that I bought two dancer drinks and including waitress tips I have spent $49 dollars on drinks. He says the policy is you have to buy a new drink every 30 minutes (this must be new policy as they never explained this on my prior 20 visits). I say ok, it is your club and you can run it anyway you want. If you tell me that I have to leave if I don't buy another drink, I know where the door is and I won't cause you any trouble. I will just get up and make my exit.
The girl who is sitting with me is looking at him anxiously like don't chase this guy away, he just said he would go to the VIP with me. He says let me talk to your waitress, and he calls her over and says how many drinks did this guy buy. She says 2. I remind her that she forgot a shot of Tequila and a red bull that cost $20. The waitress says yes he bought 4 drinks total. The manager says you are ok then, you can stay.
Now I understand, it is Saturday night and the club is full, they don't want some dude taking up a table and nursing a drink all night, I just think before you harass someone, you should be aware of how much money they have already spent. In addition to drinks I had been buying VIPs, and tipping the dancers on stage, I don't see many people stage tipping the dancers. As result of this conversation I don't buy any more dancers drinks the rest of the evening.
As I am leaving the club, I talk to the lady at the door, and I tell her I had a good time tonight but there was one thing that I didn't like. I said I spent $59 (I bought one more drink after my second VIP) on drinks but I was hassled a bit about not buying enough drinks. She asked was I by myself? I said yes. She asked who hassled me?, I said one of the managers.
I told her that each night I visit I spend between $400 $600 on all services. I said when the manager harassed me I offered that I would leave and take my business elsewhere and he said that would not be necessary. I said I know I am not your best customer, but I think I am good customer, and I would rather not be hassled in this fashion. She apologized and said she was sorry for the treatment several times and that she would look into the issue. I had no idea if she will or not, but I figured the right thing to do was raise a complaint for inappropriate behavior. I don't like being pushed around.
A few nights later back at BTs.
My business trip was not over yet and I return a few nights later, I walk into BTs take my usual table and order a club soda. The club is a little less than half full. Before the waitress can even bring my drink one of the bouncers taps me on the shoulder and asks to talk to him at entry desk. I don't recognize him immediately as he has shaved his head since the prior night. But his body language is aggressive, leaning into me, and his eyes look angry. He says I want to be sure you are not going to have a problem buying drinks tonight. And it clicks for me this is the same guy who hassled me last time. I smile calmly and think I hope he got in trouble. And before I can answer him he says confrontationally that I had better buy at least 2 drinks. I calmly state that could be problem, and ask if he would like me to leave? He says yes he thinks I should leave and recommends I patronize another establishment. Now I have several thoughts running through my head, but I know logic is not going to prevail in this instance. If I try to argue, I believe I will likely to end up in some type of physical confrontation, which will be a foregone conclusion that I will be worse for the experience. This man's behavior appears purposely antagonistic hoping it will become physical so he can dish out some violence on me. I calmly state, Sir have a good night, I am sorry that I troubled you and slowly walk out the door.
The valet is surprised to see me and asks me to come back soon, but I say the manager just kicked me out so I don't think it is very likely.
I am good drink buyer, I frequently buy 3 drinks for myself and 3 peeler drinks so BTs is making good money off my drinks. If manager guy wants to cause a problem why pick on someone who buys drinks? I think the club is entitled to make some money, I just didn't like being harassed about it. Certainly if you come in buy a drink, hit the VIP and leave the manager wouldn't have a problem. Since I was hanging around to do multiple VIPs the problem occurred. You would think they would want to encourage people to hang out and spend more money instead of incentivizing them to leave after one VIP visit.
What the guy should have done is say, Sir, I am sorry I gave you hard time the other night, I didn't realize how many drinks you bought. Please enjoy yourself tonight. If he did that I would have stayed and spent $500 in his club, including drinks, VIP fees, stage tips and of course peeler services, of which the club takes a cut.
I have always liked BTs because it was fun, fantasy, no hassle kind of place. The biggest problem was possibly being short changed by a peeler, and I know how to handle that. Once the experience is no longer fun, then the reason return ceases to exist. Arguing with a manager over drinks is not fun.
I realize whether I go to BTs or not, makes no difference to this guy. The 10 times a year I walk through their door doesn't make or break their club. It is still a good club offering good services at a good value. I do know if you hassle enough of your repeat customers and drive them elsewhere, it will impact the club. This is a customer service business and it runs on repeat customers. Without enough customers the business will slowly decline.
Now I am not going to let one bad decision by one manager wipe out all the good times I had, but I will be a bit more cautious, and as he suggested I will take my business elsewhere to a place I don't get hassled. I have been meaning to try some other clubs for a while and this gave me the motivation to do it.
I would have spent another $1500 dollars at BTs on the 3 remaining nights I went out to clubs in Detroit. All this money is lost to BTs because I refused to buy a $10 drink at a manager's whim. I don't know any business that wouldn't spend $10 to make $1500, but that is what happened here.
When I left BTs I drove over to Bogarts the first night.
The second night I went to the Flight Club.
The third night I went to Players.
I enjoyed Flight Club and Players about as much as I usually enjoy BTs.
In Players I had returned from my first VIP session and a second dancer quickly joined me at my table. When the waitress came over I ordered a drink for the dancer and although my drink was only a quarter full I did not buy a second one for me. I was intending to buy a second one later in the evening.
Now to my shocking surprise 45 minutes later the waitress comes over with another club soda. I did not order this, but my drink had been empty for a while. So I say to her what do I owe you?, and she says nothing, it is on the house she just thought I looked thirsty. She does accept a $2 dollar tip. The irony of this is amazing. If BTs would have just not hassled me I would have been sitting in BTs and not even be in Players. The waitress can't know that I was hassled at BTs yet provided me a free drink. I realize I already bought a club soda and the cost of that to the club is only a few pennies and I spent $6 dollars on it, so they are not losing any money here. But the difference in attitude is tremendous. I think this waitress just guaranteed I will be returning to Players on my next trip to Detroit.
I don't know if anyone else has been hassled like me in BTs. Perhaps it was fluke thing the manager did, although I sensed he has done this before. I would certainly encourage anyone who is a paying customer to not allow themselves to be treated this way.
I do intend to go back to BTs on a future trip to Detroit as I have had many enjoyable nights in their club, but if I am still not welcome, I won't hesitate get up and leave again. I would encourage any else who has this experience to do the same.
There is simply no reason to put up with this kind of treatment, or any form of manager harrassment.[/QUOTE]
Same thing happened to my buddy who frequents the place. The waitress asked him to get a second drink within a short time of his first one. He went and bitched about it but it fell on deaf ears. They may be trying to do a Hustler Club new management style deal which led to Hustlers downfall.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2215328]I first discovered BTs 3 years ago on a business trip to Detroit. I spend a few weeks in Detroit on business each year, and I would say average visiting the clubs about 10 nights a year. A typical night I would be in the club for between 3-5 hours, enjoy 2-4 VIP sessions and spend about $500 a night on all activities. I had never been hassled in the club and considered it my go to place for relaxation in Detroit.
All that changed on my August trip. On night one, I had already completed my first visit to the VIP and had just finished negotiating a second trip to the VIP which I planned to take after the girl did her stage set. I had been in the club a little more than 2 hours and I had already spent $49 dollars on drinks for myself and the dancers....
...There is simply no reason to put up with this kind of treatment, or any form of manager harrassment.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that you were treated so poorly MM, I remember your spectacular posts regarding earlier visits.
I used to be a fairly regular patron at BT's, but almost never go there anymore because of the attitudes, and the abysmal selection of dancers. It has definitely gone way downhill over the past six months.
I'm glad you found Player's. I like it there a lot, and their management is outstanding.
Hey what's up guys? I'm new to this, was wondering where some of the cheaper clubs are? Don't have a lot of money so don't want to waste it my first time.
[QUOTE=FrankTheTanker;2215422]How is the mileage at hustlers? Last time I was there, I was interested in a few, but didn't know the ropes yet.[/QUOTE]Expensive a lot cash just to use the private room.
[QUOTE=Hard23;2215927]Hey what's up guys? I'm new to this, was wondering where some of the cheaper clubs are? Don't have a lot of money so don't want to waste it my first time.[/QUOTE]It's tough to get any cheaper than the Hamilton bars: H8 N, H8's, Bogarts, and John's Hot Spot. But while there's always a few gems to be found, don't expect an outstanding level of talent.
[QUOTE=SlackerFreak;2216203]It's tough to get any cheaper than the Hamilton bars: H8 N, H8's, Bogarts, and John's Hot Spot. But while there's always a few gems to be found, don't expect an outstanding level of talent.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yea I'm not expecting A+ talent, just something to test the waters.
My preference has been Venus, but last time I was somewhat disappointed by the talent there. I like curvy women, so I tried the Yacht Club. I counted 5 or 6 dancers there, all at least a 7. Drinks are reasonably priced. Dances start at 10, then 20 in a small room with a 10 cover charge. Then there's upstairs with a 20 cover. The music was headpoundingly loud. I was disappointed by the upstairs after paying to get there. It's quieter, but the unfinished renovations look dumpy. The few finished spots are narrow bench booths like Venus has. I spent approximately $.50 on drinks, dances, and upstairs mileage. Overall, better talent, more $, but worse club.
[QUOTE=Chuka;2218163]My preference has been Venus, but last time I was somewhat disappointed by the talent there. I like curvy women, so I tried the Yacht Club. I counted 5 or 6 dancers there, all at least a 7. Drinks are reasonably priced. Dances start at 10, then 20 in a small room with a 10 cover charge. Then there's upstairs with a 20 cover. The music was headpoundingly loud. I was disappointed by the upstairs after paying to get there. It's quieter, but the unfinished renovations look dumpy. The few finished spots are narrow bench booths like Venus has. I spent approximately $.50 on drinks, dances, and upstairs mileage. Overall, better talent, more $, but worse club.[/QUOTE]What is the Yacht Club?
Never had an issue with hitting the minimum number of drinks purchased. I always run a tab at BT 's for the entire visit and put it on a CC. The tab is updated with every order so there will be no doubt about how much you have purchased. My experience is that you will always have the possibility of running into a bad dancer, waitress or bouncer in any strip club. My experience is also that if you just wait a while they will be replaced with someone better. The exception is if the ownership or general management goes bad; this is a lot harder to replace. I visit Detroit about once every 2 months and I visit BT's on every visit. Let's put it this way: Of the last 10 BJ's I received at BT's 100% were BBBJ and 90% were followed by a swallow. Until I personally hit the bad apple mentioned at BT's I will return. On the other hand, Being ready to move on to a new hunting ground in this business is par for the course.
[QUOTE=Tubes;2218320]What is the Yacht Club?[/QUOTE]Used to be called Sunset Strip. On Michigan Ave in Detroit. Now called Yacht Club Exclusive.
[QUOTE=Tubes;2218320]What is the Yacht Club?[/QUOTE]It was previously called Sunset Strip, on Michigan Ave in Detroit. "Exclusive" on the sign was more noticeable than the name.
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I used to frequent BTs (once / wk for about 6 months in 2013/14). Night shift. I know a ton of the staff there. I got sick of the dead atmosphere and the lack of competent staff. Manager JR just stopped caring about the customers. The waitresses were slow and unattentive. A lot of this had to do with turnover / a bunch of newbies. The quality of girls went way down. Owner Nick was showing up more often and seems like that's where the money grab really started. Never had the harassment problem but definitely had a front row seat to the downturn in sercice quality. I won't be back until things turn around.
I'd been thinking about going to BT's again but after all of the bad reports, there's no way in hell I'd go now, especially since I'm not a big drinker. What I'm most puzzled about is the fact that they require you to buy another drink every half hour. For an average or smaller sized guy that stays a couple of hours, you're going to be drunk and that's a huge liability for the bar. If there's an accident where someone gets hurt and sues the bar, it should be interesting when it comes to trial and it's revealed that they're pressuring people to buy drinks so frequently.
It's Strawberry Season.
Went to Club Venus during day shift on Friday. * Sat down and ordered the best drink deal in the club scene. * 5 - 7 oz beers for 8 bucks in an ice bucket. * There were 8 dancers there, 1 AA rate at a 5. The other dancers were between a 3 and a 6 on the scale. Good conversation with a dancer named Heather but didn't want VIP with her so I moved on. A skinny blond came over and talked a good game but I wasn't sure I wanted that either so I sent her away also. Then another girl came over and sat down. She is a red head, about 5' 3" tall nice see cups with perfect nips, about 150 lbs so a little chunky. * Said her name was Strawberry. * No, said her name was suck a dick Strawberry. * I thought that was funny. She's not muck for small talk but is very direct about her skills and $. So this was the negotiation. I can make you pop in 1 song for. 6. If I don't pop in 1 song it's. 5. She said let me show you. We go to the VIP, and she removes all her cloths like this is going to be an upsell to FS, but it wasn't. * She put the cover on and damn near earned her. 6, but I stubbornly held my ground and wanted it to last. She got me in 3 songs but dholy hell it was good. If you are looking for a friend for an hour, she's not your girl, but if you need a great,* no bs, CBJ that's affordable,* and did I mention great, she's the one. *.
Total damage, . 68. . 02 parking after 5 PM, . 08 for 5 beers, . 08 VIP tax, great CBJ. 5. GREAT TIME IN NO TIME.
[QUOTE=Chuka;2218687]It was previously called Sunset Strip, on Michigan Ave in Detroit. "Exclusive" on the sign was more noticeable than the name.[/QUOTE]There's a Yacht Club in Livonia on Ann Arbor Rd. Bikini bar. Its where all the old strippers go to work.
I used to live in the Detroit area, but have since moved out of state. I used to frequent some of the Hamilton bars, but haven't been in a while. I'll be in town next week and was curious if anyone had any intel on any dancers that offer Greek (inside or outside the club)? If anyone knows any candidates I would appreciate it! I prefer spinner types, but am also not too picky!
Thanks in advance!
So it seems I needed to double down in the idiot department over the past few weeks.
I'll post this as a lesson, to things I have known for a long time (10 years in the game) but failed to ignore: When a dancer ask for money up front for services, before doing them, even if you have pre-negotiated the deal (I did), do not ever, (did I mention the word ever?) ever pay them: you will get burned, every time.
Story #1 a few weeks ago: at Toy Chest I have a great convo with a hot red-headed spinner, I tell her what the max amount is, and what am planning on spending. She agrees. Sure enough, we get back there, and she wants to be paid first, my warning flags, went up, but we were *cool* right- well yeah, two songs in, she says she is finished. I didn't know the manager there, buy I talked with him and he let's her walk. But I told him he would have problems with her. He gives me some drink cards, etc, BFD. I Should have known.
Doubling g down on stupid #2: A few nights ago at Coliseum, I talk to a smoking hot Cuban from Miami who is there dancing (This should have been flag #1). Anyway, we negotiate the deal upfront: $140 for everything, and we are clear right? This chica is so hot its worth it, (anyways, we get upstairs and she wants the $140 upfront- I tell her no, due to past experiences, etc not going to happen. She tells me no, she's not like that. Sure enough, we get into it half way, and the up-sell comes. I get pissed, She wants for FS for $300, I tell her to clean up the floor, I tell her she can settle with me for $80, she owes me the rest. She says no, its your word against mine. I tell her, we'll discuss this with the bouncers and the manager. (Who I know quite well, and I never have an issue, and he was working fortunately) I also tell the bouncer, what ever you shake this ***** down for, I'll split it with you. Anyway's discussion ensues, manager makes this tramp pay $100, I give half to the bouncer, as promised, and to keep the hustlers honest. Moral of the story: even when you think you're a good gamer, do not ever, ever pay up front.
On a pleasant note: I went to Trump's Sunday afternoon, they had a free stadium buffet, I normally never go there, but they were open at 2 pm, on Sunday, and I was hungry and thirsty. I talked to a dancer (Anna?) Nice, brunette. I pre-negotiated the standard $120 for all, and she agreed, it was slow, she was bored (a shame). We got down to business, she knew French very well, then switch to FS: I blow my load in her, she then after ask, if she can take the cover off and Polish my rod (Um Yeah! Yeah, you can do that any time, and she rocked the house! Keep the faith, keep the prices low brothers, and don't be dumb like I was-.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;2221031]I'd been thinking about going to BT's again but after all of the bad reports, there's no way in hell I'd go now, especially since I'm not a big drinker. What I'm most puzzled about is the fact that they require you to buy another drink every half hour. For an average or smaller sized guy that stays a couple of hours, you're going to be drunk and that's a huge liability for the bar. If there's an accident where someone gets hurt and sues the bar, it should be interesting when it comes to trial and it's revealed that they're pressuring people to buy drinks so frequently.[/QUOTE]You're not obliged to buy booze, nor drink the drink in front of you. I agree it's a bad policy, I've run into it in the worst club in Lansing, where you were told to buy a drink every 1/2 hour or leave, also by a manager. Didn't matter how much was spent on girls. Why not just up the cover? It's a shame, if was the best club for multiple shots at girls, they probably are just calculating that if you're going to just sit and watch, you need to pay. No one should kid themselves that they give a shit about customers who spend 400 a visit. Tip a manager 40 a visit and you'll be left alone, as I watched an old hand do at a club. He could have anything he wanted this way. I find a small tip to everyone that moves at Bt's gets me peace. It still is a lot cheaper in the end. And guaranteed with what I'm looking for.
[QUOTE=InDuhKnow;2221395]There's a Yacht Club in Livonia on Ann Arbor Rd. Bikini bar. Its where all the old strippers go to work.[/QUOTE]There any chance for carry out there? Not far from me.
[QUOTE=TomTigers;2221765]So it seems I needed to double down in the idiot department over the past few weeks.
Doubling g down on stupid #2: A few nights ago at Coliseum, I talk to a smoking hot Cuban from Miami who is there dancing (This should have been flag #1). Anyway, we negotiate the deal upfront: $140 for everything, and we are clear right? This chica is so hot its worth it, (anyways, we get upstairs and she wants the $140 upfront- I tell her no, due to past experiences, etc not going to happen. She tells me no, she's not like that. Sure enough, we get into it half way, and the up-sell comes. I get pissed, She wants for FS for $300, I tell her to clean up the floor, I tell her she can settle with me for $80, she owes me the rest. She says no, its your word against mine. I tell her, we'll discuss this with the bouncers and the manager. (Who I know quite well, and I never have an issue, and he was working fortunately) I also tell the bouncer, what ever you shake this ***** down for, I'll split it with you. Anyway's discussion ensues, manager makes this tramp pay $100, I give half to the bouncer, as promised, and to keep the hustlers honest. Moral of the story: even when you think you're a good gamer, do not ever, ever pay up front.[/QUOTE]Hey, now! I know some great Cubanas from Miami. Apparently, they're touring now. Met a couple of old friends in Vegas. No, they won't work for $80 either LOL. And yes, every professional stripper of my acqaintance knowswhat extras in what club in The the will cost. As does their Daddies.
[QUOTE=FCFan1;2220761]I used to frequent BTs (once / wk for about 6 months in 2013/14). Night shift. I know a ton of the staff there. I got sick of the dead atmosphere and the lack of competent staff. Manager JR just stopped caring about the customers. The waitresses were slow and unattentive. A lot of this had to do with turnover / a bunch of newbies. The quality of girls went way down. Owner Nick was showing up more often and seems like that's where the money grab really started. Never had the harassment problem but definitely had a front row seat to the downturn in sercice quality. I won't be back until things turn around.[/QUOTE]Isn't the owner having trouble with the IRS? Thought I saw something like that in the paper a week or so ago.
I was out and about earlier and decided to stop by Bogart's and check out the talent. I'd been hoping to see Karma (bleached blond veteran, huge tits, curvy, about 5'4") but she wasn't there and my favorite little Ashley, who used to work both here and at H8N, retired. I hope she comes back! Unfortunately, Karma wasn't there today either :(
The talent was "holy shit!" bad. There were about 10 girls there, only 1 of whom I remember from a previous visit and only because she had long pencil tip nipples (which I hate). One brunette, who didn't look bad from a far distance stopped over. She was scary up close, having a deeply wrinkled, old pock marked face that would stop a train. There were a couple of others that could cause paint to peel off the walls just by looking at them. The only semi saving grace was a blonde who I was told used to be a waitress. I considered her to be so-so but by far the best talent in the place today. It was one drink for me and I was out of there!
Stopped just before shift change last Thursday Saw one blonde with nice fake tits, didn't get a chance to talk to her. Settled for a petite blonde spinner, small saggy tits but a nice bbbjws for 60. Offered FS for no extra but had no cover and oral relief was all I wanted Total damage 75 out the door.
[QUOTE=Action22;2222213]Isn't the owner having trouble with the IRS? Thought I saw something like that in the paper a week or so ago.[/QUOTE]Has been. Internet searches for the club usually turn up articles about that subject. Plenty of details there.
[QUOTE=SpikeMan;2223277]Settled for a petite blonde spinner, small saggy tits but a nice bbbjws for 60. Offered FS for no extra but had no cover and oral relief was all I wanted Total damage 75 out the door.[/QUOTE]Spike, do you know her name? Did she work days or nights? Maybe a better description. That's a good price!