RE: Whinners (sic) and Cry Babys (sic)
[QUOTE=Tha X Facta]I'm not sure which is worse..... whining,,,, or whining about whiners.....hmmmm. [b][size=-2](Especially on a monger forum)
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I tend to think of "whining" as complaining, its primary definition. There is a secondary definition of protesting in a childish fashion. There is no shortage of whiners in this Forum, by both definitions, but I beg to differ that I am a complainer. Whether my "protests" are childish I suppose is a matter of interpretation. I have been known to have a few outbursts like that. Those who wish to taunt me might characterize me as being "always" that way, but I have been making a concerted effort of late to be logically, if sometimes irritatingly cogent and analytical, even in response to what is obviously mindless criticism (that does not refer to your post, X Facta, but you could brush up on your spelling and grammar ;)). Mostly I post reports and pics of SW encounters like a good little SW monger photojournalist. Occasionally I do some reflection or offer an opinion on a subject relevant to mongering. I guess a relatively small portion of my posts reply to criticisms, like this one (or, at least part of it was). That comes with the territory of posting a great deal and varies with the volume of critiques. If that is "whining" by your definition, then I would respectfully disagree with your definition.
[QUOTE=Tha X Facta]All we ever hear is how bad the pics are, tan lines, poor post timing, Blah, blah, bla...[/QUOTE]
No comment. :)
[QUOTE=Tha X Facta]The other guy; all he does is, Waaa, waa, waa.....cry baby.[/QUOTE]
"All?" Asked and answered.
[QUOTE=Tha X Facta]Quit snilvling and keep shootin pictures or maybe quit mongering and chase a little white ball. [/QUOTE]
I didn't need marching orders to continue to do what I enjoy doing anyway. Besides, I hate golf and I love getting sucked and fucked.
[QUOTE=Tha X Facta][b]"I'm just voicing my own personal opinion.
Nobody cares."[/b] [/QUOTE]
Somebody cares. You must have cared or you wouldn't have written and voiced your "own personal opinion." :)
[QUOTE=Tha X Facta]Nice outside shots! :)[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I may try some more.
RE: Have to Give Applause
[QUOTE=Yung501]Super, have been watching your post for quite some time and have to say I am down right jealous of your choices,style, and overall delivery. You are the man and a bunch of wimps are just plain envious and small minded to ever complain about your choices or style. Keep up the great time and joy you Choose to share with us.[/QUOTE]
First of all, thank you. I appreciate your kind remarks.
Secondly, it is unfortunately in my insidious nature to clarify some things even when they appear in a congratulatory post. Please do not take it the wrong way. I do not mean it personally. Many people get wrong what I am about to explain.
Jealousy refers to the negative thoughts and feelings of insecurity, fear, and anxiety over an anticipated LOSS of something that the person values, such as a relationship, friendship, or love. One often properly hears, for example, of being jealous of a rival bf or gf because of the fear of losing one's love interest to another. However, you did mention envy in its proper context. Envy occurs when a person lacks another's (perceived) superior quality, achievement, or possession and either desires it or wishes that the other lacked it. Another way to look at it is that envy always involves only two people, and jealousy typically involves three people.
Envy can be a positive and useful thing, spurring one on to achieve or possess that which is envied. That seems to sound like your healthy form of it. Envy can also be negative. It can derive from a sense of low self-esteem that results from a perceived threat to a person's self image: another person has something that the envier considers to be important to have. If the other person is perceived to be similar to the envier, the aroused envy will be particularly intense, because it signals to the envier that it just as well could have been he or she who had the desired object.
So, it would seem that the "wimps and small-minded" would be the least of my worries where envy is concerned. Peers, or those who see themselves as peers, would be hardest hit, and would howl most loudly in complaint. Aristotle had a great definition of envy: "the pain caused by the good fortune of others." Kant, one of my favorites for many reasons, had a more involved definition of envy: "a reluctance to see our own well-being overshadowed by another's because the standard we use to see how well off we are is not the intrinsic worth of our own well-being but how it compares with that of others." I rarely, if ever, envy others, not because many others aren't doing things I would like to do, or possess things I would like to have, but rather because I do not personally choose to measure my self-worth by comparison with others.
To Bicker or Not to Bicker: THAT Is the Question!
[QUOTE=Fbtom]There might be some who may grow weary of looking at the same girl with multiple shots. If you look at the viewed numbers, I'm sure that you will see varied counts reported as people picked which ones to look over more carefully.[/QUOTE]
I usually don't look at the "number of views" in the photo gallery as indicative of much, except my following personal observations:
1. When there is just one picture of a girl, there tends to be many views. Conversely, when there are many pictures of a girl there tends to be more selectivity and less views per pic. The fewer pics there are of a girl, the more views of each pic there tends to be and vice versa, regardless of the style of the pics.
2. The longer a pic stays on the first few pages of the photo gallery, the more views it tends to get. I guess guys don't tend to look much beyond what was most recently posted.
3. There is a tendency to like "flashing" pics of either top and/or bottom, up-skirt and naked spread pics. The rule seems to prevail, however, that the fewer the pics posted of one girl, the more views there are. There is a weariness or bored factor here operating to some extent.
4. There tends to be more views of "real" pics of a SW encounter by a monger reporting about it as opposed to commercial pics, advertising pics from the internet, etc.
5. There tends to be many views of a SW fully dressed as she might appear on the street (most especially shots of her actually on the street), or close-ups of her face or pics of her riding in a car. My guess is that this helps in real-life identification.
6. How pretty in the face or attractive in the body a girl is can always be a factor on how many views there are of a pic. But the above general rules still seem to apply.
I noticed myself that, when I limited my posts of any one girl at any one time to 10 or less, that the number of views per pic went way up, in many cases by a factor of 10 times or more. This reinforced the self-perceived wisdom of my decision to begin doing this in the first place.
[QUOTE=Fbtom]...criticizing pic count or quality is just ignorant. The viewer should feel lucky to have even seen any pics since posting online is all done voluntarily. Along that thought, girls get paid for pics. Did the complainer pay for that? Nope, so shut up already. The person taking the pics controls what is photographed and posted. So requests for certain poses should not be expected, but thankful if done. For example, if I like assholes, I'm going to take a pic of them, perhaps even post them for others who like to see them. If you don't like them, just keep on moving along. The same would go for pics of too thin, too fat, too whatever. You don't like them, then take ones that you do and post them! Otherwise, be courteous to the generosity of the adventurous peers.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more. Be happy with what you get, even if it isn't perfectly what you want. If you really want to demonstrate your "superior" taste and choices, take your own pics and post them instead of just complaining about what "others" do.
[QUOTE=Fbtom]The same thing goes with reports, if they are wordy, repetitive, dull, full of errorrs and misspeellings, who cares? As long as the reports are accurate enough to satisfiy the goal of the forum of sharing info in order for men to have sex with women.[/QUOTE]
Tom, did you mean "errorrs(sic) and misspeellings(sic)" on purpose or was that a Freudian slip? ;)
My reports tend to be long and detailed. I am guilty on that count. However, I usually always provide a brief ratings summary at the end for those who just want to see if they care to date this girl or not.
[QUOTE=Fbtom]Peers may comment on how to improve pic taking or reporting content. Most of the time, if done with constructive criticism in mind, this is done for everyone's benefit.[/QUOTE]
"Constructive criticism" is like beauty. It is in the eye of the beholder. Making suggested improvements is one thing; just saying you don't like something is another. The latter isn't likely to be either very "constructive" or get any pic taking behavior altered.
[QUOTE=Fbtom]All of the above is my personal point of view..mentioned for consideration of peers to review or comment on. Hoping to find a common understanding so that we can all get along with less useless bickering. Let's talk about our adventures with the woman instead, it is a lot more interesting anyways![/QUOTE]
Less bickering about pic taking?: [b]HEAR, HEAR! and HIP HIP HOORAY![/b]
I am not holier than thou. I have had my share of contentions in this Forum about many things. HOWEVER, I have never, ever criticized the number, type, style, subject, content or anything else regarding anyone's posted pics. So, I feel somewhat justified in saying to everyone that I will post my pics my way and you can post your pics your way. :D
RE: Grade School Exchanges
[QUOTE=Fbtom]Purposely smart azz, LOL![/QUOTE]
Tom, not for a minute did I really think you were that bad a speeeller. I was pulling your chain, bud. :D
[QUOTE=Fbtom]I know that my own sentence structure, word usage, and spelling are not perfect. Now if these reports were for something serious, such as a job, then I would review and rewrite until correct. Butchered up as they may be, they are still suitable to get the point across.[/QUOTE]
You are MUCH better than the vast majority on here, even without trying very hard.
[QUOTE=Fbtom]Although your responses were insightful SuperE, please don't feel as if my comments were specific to you. As I mentioned ...where I first it is a generalization of various comments by various peers over the past few months. If you feel as if they were, perhaps that is "Freudian" on your part? ;) [/QUOTE]
I took you at your word: that your remarks were a generalization for commentary by the membership. I never thought they were specifically directed to me. There was no "Freudian" here at all, I favor the biopsychosocial psychiatric approach. :)
[QUOTE=Fbtom] Seriously, I just wanted to bring the focus of our discussions back to the sexy women and our adventures meeting them. Let the past be as "water under the bridge" and move on towards a better forum. Where all, seniors, newbies, and even trolls, can view this forum as a respectable place to have decent exchange of info. I dislike opening up a thread only to find grade school style of exchanges taking place. WTF! Are we men or boys here?[/QUOTE]
It is clear that we have some members who are still in "grade school" when it comes to mongering and appreciating the efforts of fellow mongers. Telling them not to be that way would be a bit like asking an 8 year old not to make fart sounds with his hand under his armpit. :D