Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[QUOTE=Tnmm51;3513266]Some on b / p has got a case of it also. Must be in the air.[/QUOTE]It's at an all time high. Even on Craigslist I had one quote an absurd amount for a nude rubdown.

[QUOTE=TrippinTB;3513223]In the heat of the moment, it is easy to "go with the flow" to preserve the good will you have invested to create with the lady. That's a dangerous position to be in. Many, if not most, are looking to get your money for as little effort as possible. So, at the 15 minute mark, she renegotiated the arrangement and was gauging your response.

It helps to have thought through "what could go wrong" prior to the meeting and have a plan for each. Years in "in the game" has taught me through my own experiences and those of fellow mongers. She just cut your time, plus she spent a good portion of the available time chit-chatting before she informed you. At worst, she is playing you (see above) and at best, she is showing she doesn't value your needs / desires (well established prior to meeting). So, here would have been an appropriate response.

Wait out the remaining 30 minutes while having fun, then casually indicate that you only have half of the agreed donation with you. Tell her you ran out of time to go to the ATM before hand (other important things to do). Since she was such a cool chick, you were planning to cut the time short (point out how that was a better deal for her) and go to the ATM for the rest before she left. Unfortunately, she has to leave now and give her half of the donation. Then watch her response.

If she is pissed off, you know she was up to no good and you just flipped the script on her. If she is understanding, tell her you'd like to see her again when she isn't rushed for time. Then observe her continued interactions (text / phone) to see if you want to continue dealing with her.

If she never wants to see you again, move on. You'll be better off finding someone that respects your needs / desires.

TrippinTB.[/QUOTE]Very good point you made. Another way to approach it in my opinion is this. If she stays 45 minutes of the hour agreed on pro rate her donation to that. Tell her exactly why you did it. It's not a game to me it's business. Simple as this if I'm at work seven of eight hours that's what I get paid for. Quit coddling these women. Be nice and be a gentleman to the point of what they allow you to be. JMO.

[QUOTE=WHillsVol;3513136]Has anyone had dealings with this one? Good? Bad? She's been on there a while.

Can either respond here or in PM.

Thanks all. Stay safe.

WHV.[/QUOTE]I have not but do know she had another profile of her and a girlfriend basically offering doubles.

[QUOTE=WHillsVol;3513136]Has anyone had dealings with this one? Good? Bad? She's been on there a while.

Can either respond here or in PM.

Thanks all. Stay safe.

WHV.[/QUOTE]She is very fucking slippery and will ditch you on a whim. If you have plans with her and she gets what she perceives to be a better offer for her she is gone. You can have her number and text her a thousand times and you will not hear from her again until she is ready and then is highly likely that she will do it all again. I've met her and seen her up close and she isn't bad looking but she is a waste if you ask me. She is nothing but frustration. Even if I had sealed the deal with her, there is no way it could have been good enough to make up for her bullshit. That's my opinion.

Fit.

[QUOTE=Jg3786;3513429]Very good point you made. Another way to approach it in my opinion is this. If she stays 45 minutes of the hour agreed on pro rate her donation to that. Tell her exactly why you did it. It's not a game to me it's business. Simple as this if I'm at work seven of eight hours that's what I get paid for. Quit coddling these women. Be nice and be a gentleman to the point of what they allow you to be. JMO.[/QUOTE]Prorating was my initial thought too. To me, that would have been the fair thing for both of us. But as I said in my post this morning, the thought of self-preservation kicked in. She had already shown herself to be less than on the up and up, and I considered possible reactions. Did she have a driver / whatever waiting outside that would be banging on my door within 2 or 3 minutes demanding the full amount or worse? What happens then? Nothing good. Was risking that possible outcome worth saving a few dollars and not coddling her? Not to me. Could I have done things different? Sure, and I also could have never joined SA or entered this hobby at all. From these forums and experience, I've seen that meeting anyone is a risk, either a new girl or an established one with good reviews. Even meeting someone you have seen several times previously can go wrong. Again, I could have handled things better, but things could have ended up a lot worse. Am I happy? Of course not. Am I embarrassed to get partially ripped off? Definitely. Am I relieved I'm only out a few dollars? YES.

[QUOTE=Jg3786;3513429]Very good point you made. Another way to approach it in my opinion is this. If she stays 45 minutes of the hour agreed on pro rate her donation to that. Tell her exactly why you did it. It's not a game to me it's business. Simple as this if I'm at work seven of eight hours that's what I get paid for. Quit coddling these women. Be nice and be a gentleman to the point of what they allow you to be. JMO.[/QUOTE]Why can't the mongers just pay the bill, look the girl in the eye and let them know you will never use them again and you will bad mouth them to everyone you know? I think that still works.

Fit.

[QUOTE=TricitiesGuy;3513666]Prorating was my initial thought too. To me, that would have been the fair thing for both of us. But as I said in my post this morning, the thought of self-preservation kicked in. She had already shown herself to be less than on the up and up, and I considered possible reactions. Did she have a driver / whatever waiting outside that would be banging on my door within 2 or 3 minutes demanding the full amount or worse? What happens then? Nothing good. Was risking that possible outcome worth saving a few dollars and not coddling her? Not to me. Could I have done things different? Sure, and I also could have never joined SA or entered this hobby at all. From these forums and experience, I've seen that meeting anyone is a risk, either a new girl or an established one with good reviews. Even meeting someone you have seen several times previously can go wrong. Again, I could have handled things better, but things could have ended up a lot worse. Am I happy? Of course not. Am I embarrassed to get partially ripped off? Definitely. Am I relieved I'm only out a few dollars? YES.[/QUOTE]Very well said and good thoughts no doubt. The coddling comment wasn't aimed at you or anything else I stated. It was my opinion on the matter.

[QUOTE=Jg3786;3513841]Very well said and good thoughts no doubt. The coddling comment wasn't aimed at you or anything else I stated. It was my opinion on the matter.[/QUOTE]I didn't think the comment was aimed solely at me, but maybe in part, to be honest. Please remember, I got burnt and I'm mad, rather embarrassed and probably still taking things related to it too personally. But, this experience and hearing others' thoughts here will make me smarter and develop thicker skin. My thanks to you and the others for chiming in!

[QUOTE=TricitiesGuy;3513870]I didn't think the comment was aimed solely at me, but maybe in part, to be honest. Please remember, I got burnt and I'm mad, rather embarrassed and probably still taking things related to it too personally. But, this experience and hearing others' thoughts here will make me smarter and develop thicker skin. My thanks to you and the others for chiming in![/QUOTE]It's happened to most of us at one time or other. You posted about it and that helps everyone on here. A big debt of thanks is owed to you for reporting this.

[QUOTE=FitDaddy3;3513775]Why can't the mongers just pay the bill, look the girl in the eye and let them know you will never use them again and you will bad mouth them to everyone you know? I think that still works.

Fit.[/QUOTE]This, pay for what was agreed upon but nut up and tell them what went wrong.

[QUOTE=Lemonader;3514068]This, pay for what was agreed upon but nut up and tell them what went wrong.[/QUOTE]Another fine opinion.

These two profiles are the same person. I'm struggling to figure out if she is going to go through with it (my original conclusion), or if she is trying to find ways to nickel and dime guys without putting out (my current suspicion.) If anyone can confirm either of those hypotheses, I can decide whether to continue to play cat-and-mouse with her or move on.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b969a62c-5ac7-4b17-807b-da1072b2e608[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e038ce64-1017-4a45-b442-8ccb0872494e[/URL]

Or is she gone?

23, blonde, Knoxville.

"Sweet southern lady looking to be spoiled".

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0d5b8df9-0793-4e12-80b6-731e8d5327ad[/URL]

Much heavier than the pic shows, but she just wants some attention and affection. Weird proclivities, but put it in your back pocket for a dry day.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e257495a-8efa-4b65-969a-957f3de03391[/URL]

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;3514422]Or is she gone?

23, blonde, Knoxville.

"Sweet southern lady looking to be spoiled".

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/0d5b8df9-0793-4e12-80b6-731e8d5327ad[/URL][/QUOTE]She must be gone.